Medical Industrial Complex
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Excellent link you posted SusanK8. I agree with it entirely. It seems to me that you think an absolute reduction in the risk of recurrence from 90% to 60% would not be worth it for you -- others may find that reduction an extremely compelling reason to choose chemotherapy.
I think a big problem with this thread is that it is very unclear what its purpose is.
Luan seems not to want debates.
SusanK8 seems to be demanding "counter-arguments."
RainbowPony posits "Alternative" and "Conventional" as entirely dichotomous.
Many of us have explained our view that there are not simply "two sides" to the search for health after a diagnosis of breast cancer. I'm basically sticking to the "Complementary" thread started by Susieq58, but if I have a question about something unclear to me or a comment about a factual error, I may choose to post it, as I have for the past 4 years.
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Susan, what part of 'Research has shown that both premenopausal and postmenopausal women benefit from chemotherapy, and that chemotherapy given at the time of diagnosis can significantly reduce the risk of the cancer recurring.' did you not understand? YOU posted the article that states this.
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I posted the answer you were looking for from the very place you copied YOUR POST. No one is talkinig about trivial issues -I am responding DIRECTLY to your request for specific info.
What more do you want than the place YOU SUGGESTED WE READ - to say
Research has shown that both premenopausal and postmenopausal women benefit from chemotherapy, and that chemotherapy given at the time of diagnosis can significantly reduce the risk of the cancer recurring.
I don't have the specific research. If that Susan, Sleuth1 ?, mindovermatter? is what you're looking for, then I suggest you contact the web site of the place you quoted.
chuckling at being called a conservative....
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i'm curious: Susan, you are constantly trying to police others, and yet to my knowledge, have never posted anything personal about your journey. nothing. and of course that isn't mandatory, but it begs the question: why bother with an online support site, if you're not going to use your experiences to process the journey, both for yourself and others?
you don't even have a little "cancer bio", as most others do.
it doesn't add up.
i'm with sunflowers - conservative is a word that folks wouldn't assign to me, either. in fact, if chemo/rads/hormonals are the killer horrors you and likeminded gals say they are - well, maybe WE are the radical ones.
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Research has shown that both premenopausal and postmenopausal women benefit from chemotherapy, and that chemotherapy given at the time of diagnosis can significantly reduce the risk of the cancer recurring.
Seems to be the answer "Susan K8" was looking for. reasearch must be available from the very place she referred us to. Sorry, Sleuth1 is now Stellar919 - jeez - can't keep up .......
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oh Susan, I know you're smart enough to know we're not offended by your use of "conservative" as regards us. We're just amused.
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I'm totally confused because I thought Susan was anti-chemo but she's posted about the benefits. Yes, the benefits are greatest for those with the greatest risk of recurrence.
I'm also having a good chuckle over the reference to Athena's followers since me and Athena have had some very strong disagreements. However, she is a voice of clarity and sanity on this thread. i just don't think anyone could say I follow her or she follows me.
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MOTC, I think you're right. I look at those statements as tactics for chaos and division.
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I did read the link Susan posted re the percentage benefits of chemo. My benefit would have only been about 3-4%, therefore no chemo for me. Small, early stage cancers would benefit the least. My benefit of Arimidex was about the same as well.
I don't know who sleuth is, but I thought rainbowpony was mindovermatter and Patzee.
Bren
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Is this a cartoon critiquing thread? I thought it was a discussion about the medical industrial complex.
I find this site has some very useful information. http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/breastcancer.htm
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I think we can all agree it's unprofessional for a doctor to scream, "Yikes" !
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You're all still there ??
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