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vmillar96
vmillar96 Member Posts: 15

HI everyone.

I am very new to this and could us some help. First I am not sure I have IBC. I just got done with the doctors and going in for an Ultrasound next week. Last Thurs I woke up with a few rashes on my left breast. Two days after I had a lot more rashes on my breast that itch a lot. My breast have started to swell up but nothing dramatic. After about three days they are in a lot of pain. Today I have pain in my neck and around my collar bone. The doctor said he did not think it was IBC because I am only 30 yrs old and there is no discharge from my nipples. He also found some small bumps in my breast.  Opinions would be great. Does this sound like IBC? I know the ultrasound will show nothing if it is. If it sounds like it how do I get a doctor to check to make sure. Thanks for all the help

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  • chester2010
    chester2010 Member Posts: 101
    edited July 2011

    Hi vmillar96:  I'm sorry to hear that you're having some issues with your breast, it is always worrying.  Any kind of rash should get checked out, especially as you have swelling as well.  The Dr. does not know what he is talking about that you are only 30 years old and no discharge.  You should get an appointment with a breast specialist as soon as you can.  My IBC started with a rash and I was told it was 'nothing to worry about'. 

    Good luck and keep in touch.  Kathy

  • vmillar96
    vmillar96 Member Posts: 15
    edited July 2011

    Kathy thank you. I have an appointment on this wed.

  • vmillar96
    vmillar96 Member Posts: 15
    edited July 2011

    I had another question about IBC. With the pain does it feel like you boob is getting engorged, this is the only way to explain the pain? Does this sound the same

  • chrissyb
    chrissyb Member Posts: 16,818
    edited July 2011

    Hi Vmillar, I can't help you with your question, but if you do a search you will probably find a bit more on this topic.  You could also go to the Symptoms and Diagnosis heading at the very top of the page and you will more than likely find some information there.  Good luck with everything.

    Love n hugs.  Chrissy

  • leisaparis
    leisaparis Member Posts: 587
    edited July 2011

    Mine was more of a knife right through the nipple and into the chest. Sure felt like someone was stabbing me over & over again. Then it would stop for a while, then start again. Wasn't constant, but more intermitten.

  • vmillar96
    vmillar96 Member Posts: 15
    edited July 2011

    this is what mine has felt like today. I just got back from the breast specialist who said that it is a yeast infection and does not look anything like IBC. Does a yeast infection cause so much pain and inflammation in the breast?

  • vmillar96
    vmillar96 Member Posts: 15
    edited July 2011

    I did leave out that It does not look anything like a yeast infection on the breast. I have been had twice before when I was breast feeding and looks nothing like it. I also googled yeast infection on the breast and my husband both think the doctor is full of it. The breast specialist I went to is suppose to be the best in my area. Any chance a demataligist might be better and seeing it?

  • leisaparis
    leisaparis Member Posts: 587
    edited July 2011

    Some of the other women on her have had to travel to get to a good dr. Some as far as a flight away.

  • vmillar96
    vmillar96 Member Posts: 15
    edited July 2011

    Please what do I do. I woke up this morning with a hug lump in my arm pitt. I could not put deodorate on this morning and can barley move my arm. Is this also part of the signs of IBC. I am getting really scarred this morning. Is this park of the symptoms ????

  • chester2010
    chester2010 Member Posts: 101
    edited July 2011

    It sounds as though you have some kind of infection and should get a good medical opinion.  Did the breast specialist do anything like ultrasound or mammogram?  Of course it's the weekend now so can you go to a walk-in clinic to get it checked out today?  Then make another appointment with the breast specialist for next week.  What did he prescribe for a yeast infection?  Where are you located? 

    Kathy

  • ebann
    ebann Member Posts: 3,026
    edited July 2011

    I was dx with IBC in 2008.  Did your BS do a core biopsy to rule it out just in case. I believe I would ask for if he does not think it is nesscary. I  was misdiagnosis in the beginning as will. It took them 6 weeks of antibiotics which did nothing. As far as being to  young for IBC that is bullshit! IBC has been known to affect girls as young as 12 years old. It is aggressive and rare. The pain sounds  like what the other ladies have gone through. It was the same way with me. If you can fly to TX to go to M.D.  Anderson that would be great. That is there specialty, I have heard wonderful things about them. Has your skin started to dimple and look like an orange? Had your nipple started to become inverted? These are other signs to look for. Also has it started to have a fever? Please an eye on it and be instant about getting a biopsy on it. It is your body and you know what is best. I would also call your area and outside your area and ask about the Dr's who have dealt with IBC. Fight   you hired the Dr and you can also fire them anytime. I wish you the best and keep us updated.

  • vmillar96
    vmillar96 Member Posts: 15
    edited July 2011

    Kathy

    I did a mammorgram and an ultrasound Thurs, everything came back fine. I asked the tech if there was any way it could be IBC he said that none of the tests would show anything anyway. I am taking monistat 7 and a steroid cream for the rash on my left breast. No change so far.

  • vmillar96
    vmillar96 Member Posts: 15
    edited July 2011

    Elizabeth,

    I started off with the rash in one spot, in a day it turned into four different spots with the rash. Then my left breast swelled up just enought to fit nicely in my bra. My nipple is already inverted so I am not sure if that would make a difference. Today I woke up with the big ball in my arm pit. I can fill it through my arm and sholder. Rash has not changed since putting medication on it. It does not look like an orange or a bruse. I live in TX and will check out MD since I think it is in Dallas, 20 min from me. I asked for a biopsy when I saw the breast specialist and she said it did not look anything like IBC and I have read to much online. She said it was a yeast infection which it looks nothing like. All I know is my boob is killing me and now my arm is in a lot of pain. 

  • vmillar96
    vmillar96 Member Posts: 15
    edited July 2011

    I know have a sore throat and swollen glands in my neck on the same side as the swollen gland under my arm and swollen breast. I feel like I am losing my mind....

  • dogeyed
    dogeyed Member Posts: 884
    edited July 2011

    Dear Vmillar,

    I have IBC.  Some of what you have reminds me of the strangeness in my boob.  What worries me most is the rashes you have... mine looked like a streak of lipstick across my skin, it came up overnight, and all along my nipple part was peeling and itched somewhat.  The pain was shooting, the swelling got to where my boob was hard.  Still, symptoms of other problems with the breast can indeed mimic it, to be sure. 

    BUT the problem is, while a good mammogram and ultrasound are good news for you, it is hard to diagnose IBC, so an expert in breast cancer, an oncologist, can tell just by looking at you if you got it, and then sometimes it also takes an MRI to make sure you have it or a skin punch biopsy.  So, good thing the Anderson Clinic is near you!!!  Plan to go there ASAP, and they will determine for certain what is going on, and then this will either be behind you or in front of you.  Being in the middle is noplace to be and I do not like how you have been treated thus far.  You are correct to be concerned and persistent.  IBC is relatively rare, plus not all docs, no matter how good they are, can recognize it.

    Now, this swollen lymph gland under your arm, as you've probably already deduced, is most likely a sign of infection, plain and simple.  As I said, some things can mimic IBC symptoms, but there's a chance the lymph is swollen from trying to stop an aggressive cancer from spreading.  But your sore throat adds to the infection likelihood, as do the neck lymphs swelling up.  I did not have swollen lymphs, at least nothing I could feel, and yet I had a large area of adenopathy under there, which until they do my surgery this month, I will assume is from an old but very difficult dental infection I dealt with just a few months before I was diagnosed with both IBC and IDC cancers.  See, for all I know, my adenopathy is a cancerous group of lymphs, which lymphs do try to stop cancers and can enlarge. 

    But anyway, could be your infection is not a garden variety yeast infection, rather some other wild and crazy invasion.  The medications you are taking, I think you said you were on some stuff I didn't quite understand, but it takes anti-infection drugs a few days to work... but could be you need a stronger medicine, at the very least, becauase it's just plain not good to have all these scary symptoms and someone not jumping all over it, infection or cancer or WHATever it is.

    So, do phone up the M.D. Anderson Clinic tomorrow, which is Monday, get yourself on in there to get examined, and you can pretty much take what they say to the bank.  Also, if it IS infection, then complain to them bitterly about how this infection is just so problematic and troublesome for you, and no matter what they give you, it just keeps on keeping on, and the Anderson Clinic will take care of giving you much better medicine for whatever you got, and I would ask for a followup appointment in, say, 10 days, to make sure the infection subsides like it's supposed to. 

    You desperately need a really great team like they got there, to take over your health for a few weeks, and get this whole thing straightened out, until you are completely well from whatever in the world is going on with your breast situation.  I have a Woman's Cancer Clinic in my town, I'm so fortunate, and I never feel safer than I do when I'm in that clinic, which when you have breast cancer or fear you do, feeling safe is in short supply.

    I worry for you being in the midst of a terrible fear of cancer, it is very difficult to handle whichever way it goes, and you are going through something as tho it were cancer and THAT'S scary, and I agree you need to pursue this at the Anderson Clinic, you need experts on IBC and at least better help if it is an infection.  Your breast sounds like it is in terrible shape, whatever it is!  Let us know what happens.

    GG

  • mrsnjband
    mrsnjband Member Posts: 1,409
    edited July 2011

    I've been out of town for a few days & just saw you post. Your symptons do sound a lot like IBC.  Pain in the breast, rash, swollen nodes.  I had a sore throat too, probably because our bodies are working overtime trying to get rid of the cancer. 

    I had swollen nodes in my arm pits & they were very sore.  I didn't have any in my neck but did have a lot of itching.  My rash came up over night.

    Mammo & US were negative, had to have an MRI to find the 3mm of cancer in the 9 o'clock position along the chest wall.

    I don't know where you live but if you are anywhere close to Tulsa, OK there is an awesome breast specialist here.  She saved my life my not ignoring my symptoms.  She said they were rare but she never put me off.  She is TOTALLY AWESOME!!!!

    If you would like her information just send my a pm & I will be glad to provide it.  MD Anderson was great too, but for some reason they wouldn't let me come to their IBC clinic.  I was upset at the time but feel like my doc did great. 

    Let us know what happens.  We are here for you. NJ 

  • vmillar96
    vmillar96 Member Posts: 15
    edited July 2011

    Thank you everyone for you very kind words. I will call the MD Anderson clinic on Mon and see if they can recommend someone in North Texas. If all else fails I can drive to Tulsa Ok. I really hope it is something else. Currently I am on medication for the "yeast Infection" and suppose to go back in 10 days. I have seen no change in the rash. I will let everyone know how it goes. Thanks for all the help.

    Victoria

  • vmillar96
    vmillar96 Member Posts: 15
    edited July 2011

    Digeyes.

    Great way to explain the rash. This the same and I, well at least three of them. One is across my nipple and it look like it might start to peel, I guess is the best way to explain it. The rash the is lower down on the breast looks like a bug bight without the hard lump, it is also a lot redder than other rashes. 

  • chester2010
    chester2010 Member Posts: 101
    edited July 2011

    I hope you will be on the phone first thing in the morning to get an appointment at MD Anderson so that you can get checked out properly.  Hopefully it is not IBC but you do need to get a better medical diagnosis.  We all have different symptoms.  I never had any pain and couldnt feel any swelling in the nodes but after I had the rash, which I was told was 'nothing',  the nipple inverted, then I knew something was wrong.

    Good luck and keep in touch.  Kathy 

  • scuttlers
    scuttlers Member Posts: 1,658
    edited July 2011

    Victoria, no need to wait until Monday, get on line and fill out the patient self referral TODAY. They will have an appropriate person call and email you on Monday. The self referral is very thorough.



    Personally - in my opinion - get thee to MD Anderson if at all possible. (make it happen!). I would very definitely, without a doubt, be dead if I had not gone there.



    As for the mammogram - I walked across the hall from the Ultrasound to the MRI guided biopsy to the Mammogram - all done the same morning. Ultrasound and mammogram were CLEAR! Needless to say the MRI was not.



    You need answers, NOW, not in a month etc. And I truly hope the answer is NED! and it is an infection.



    Best of luck, keep us posted. Please.

  • vmillar96
    vmillar96 Member Posts: 15
    edited July 2011

    Strange question. Can the red rash come and go. During the day I have noticed that it can be bright red or a light pink.

  • vmillar96
    vmillar96 Member Posts: 15
    edited July 2011

    I have an appointment at the cancer cener next to my house. Can I demand to have a biopsy done on that breast????

  • scuttlers
    scuttlers Member Posts: 1,658
    edited July 2011

    Victoria,

    Please read through all the posts on your thread. You can go to your appointment, you can request a biopsy, but if they are not familiar with IBC and if this is what you are concerned about - in my opinion, don't waste time.



    You are in or near Dallas, correct? It is a quick and cheap flight to Houston. MD Anderson has a clinic that specializes in IBC. It is difficult to diagnose, especially if the healthcare professional has not seen or dealt with it before.



    You can fill out a self referral on their web site and they will call or email you. We, here on the forum can not give you a diagnosis. We can not tell you what is happening or what needs to be done. We all hope it is NOT IBC, but only a professional who is knowledgeable can give you what you need now. And you are so very close to the best in the world for IBC issues.



    The time you spend surfing and asking questions would be better spent by contacting them and getting the process in place. THEY can answer the questions.



    Let us know how things go.



  • vmillar96
    vmillar96 Member Posts: 15
    edited July 2011

    The problem is that my husbands work will not give him time off work to watch my little ones. It would be very hard to pick up my 3 yr old and 4 yr old and take them out there with me.  I know what is more important, me or work. Right now work is cause if he loses his job we have no insurance or money coming in for the family so I have no choice to get it done. I did do research and doctors that I am going to see is from MD Aderson. Which make me feel a lot better

  • vmillar96
    vmillar96 Member Posts: 15
    edited July 2011

    Scuttlers,

    You were right a waste of time. I just got back from the Cancer center in my town. The lady said that it cannot be IBC because there is no mass and it would show up on an ultrasound or mammagram. She also said my breast was not swollen enough and the rash does not come in spots only the whole breast. So I will have to wait for about two weeks before I can to MD Anderson center.

  • chester2010
    chester2010 Member Posts: 101
    edited July 2011

    I wish I lived closer, I would look after your little ones while you went to MD Anderson.  I have grandchildren the same age and they would love some playmates! 

    My rash looked very subtle at times and showed up more sometimes than others.  When I had a mammogram it showed 'skin thickening' but I had to have an MRI and core biopsy to confirm the diagnosis.  Is there someone at MD Anderson you can speak to before you are able to get there?  They seem to be very accommodating to patients who are worried about IBC.  I just pray that it is not IBC, that would be the best news.

    Kathy

  • dogeyed
    dogeyed Member Posts: 884
    edited July 2011

    Dear VMillar,

    Just wanted you to know we'll all be here when your appointment is kept in two weeks' time at MD Anderson Clinic.  And there is the Oklahoma option, too.  You may ask MD Anderson if they allow patients to bring their children with them, they may have a play center there, I just don't know, but the other ladies here will know and can PLEASE comment on that.  Because if you get all hooked up with them, IF you have cancer, it would be a good thing to take advantage of.  But in case they do not accomodate children, my dear one, you can talk to the Catholic Church in your area and explain what is going on, and they may be able to refer you to a Day Care that helps cancer patients with their child care needs for little or not money.  I know cleaning services are offered all over the country specifically to help women who are basically disabled during some of the cancer treatment avenues, so perhaps there is something like that for child care.

    Oh, and relatives and SOME friends are good with children and would probably be happy to take care of your little ones whilst you go to MD Anderson, and if things go all wrong there and you do have cancer, could be you could engage them to help you further along when you have to go there more frequently for treatments.  If I weren't so sick and if I didn't live in North Carolina, I would pick up and go to your home and help you out, just like Kathy said she'd do.  So, COULD BE you need to hire an RN nurse, which is the solution I recommend the most, and get an RN maybe who is affiliated with a company that provides nursing assistance to all sorts of people, and interview a few, and find one that is just the right fit for you and your children, because I'm telling you, if you have cancer and thus get chemo and have to put up with the side effects, you'll be SO GLAD to have an RN nurse visit your home on a regular basis.  I have wished many times I had hired one just for me, so if I had had children, I think I would have gone that route.  It will cost you some money, but there ARE programs out there associated with the American Cancer Society and other cancer groups that can hook you up with some sort of financial assistance.  I have applied to one, but as yet they have not let me know if I will get help.  But so far I have kept up with my bills, but I don't know how much longer without putting together a payment plan.  Which a payment plan is something to consider if your children wind up needing looking after in a long-term situation.

    I know you must be conflicted.  On the one hand, you are fearful of cancer, and rightfully so.  But on the other hand, could be your breast has improved in the last couple days, and now you are thinking, What am i getting so tore up about?  But since several of us here are aware of and have learned to live with the fearsomeness of IBC, and since you DO display some pretty unusual symptoms to just be an infection, and DOES sound in many ways like IBC, so you must still pursue the best docs in your state (and some say in the country) and the Oklahoma route, to talk to docs who KNOW what they're talking about.  My boob didn't look like all women's do that have this, but some of the remarks from some of your docs are just plain INCORRECT!  Like I said, it's hard to find a doc who knows about this IBC type of cancer, very dangerous business, so by going ahead to Anderson, you can finally find out what in the world is going on here! 

    But I am REALLY hoping your visit to Anderson is a one-time deal, and that they can share your profound relief upon telling you that you do not have cancer, and hopefully they will help along the treatment of that abnormal breast for you so you'll be all well again, and then this little episode in your life will be over.  But wow, you have sure gotten a very close-up look at what it's like to be in this predicament, I look at cancer patients (including my nephew who is a 10-year survivor, and my husband and father who are decade-survivors) entirely differently now, altho my understanding how chemo for breast cancer ain't easy is not the same as treatment compared to other cancers.  But with other cancers, it doesn't sound from my relatives like they went thru what I did, but on the other hand I'm in worse shape to begin with from being disabled. 

    Well, keep us posted, and keep any questions coming and feel free to just come on here and gripe and cry to us about anything that you are concerned about and your "stuck" position in this process of hurry up and wait thing on whether you got cancer or not. 

    Yours truly, Gail  

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