February 2011 chemo pals

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  • MamaV
    MamaV Member Posts: 907
    edited July 2011

    Jen thanks for the encouragement! I am sooooo ready for the end of chemo !!!!



    Emily - thanks to you too! Makes me feel better about rads!

  • dogeyed
    dogeyed Member Posts: 884
    edited July 2011

    Jenn H, thanks for letting us know how the surgery went.  At my cancer clinic, I had to ask them to please give me the time and date for my surgery, it's supposed to be about July 20th, and it wasn't on the schedule they print out for me each month.  Only thing on there besides my last Taxol is just a 30-day followup in August from the chemo.  So, they said they'd look into it and give me some papers when I come in again next Thurs.  Three weeks ago I had talked with my doc and we agreed he'd put me on the operating room schedule within two weeks after my last Taxol.  I had also assumed they'd want to do another scan of some kind before surgery, but what do I know?

    Wow, new Jen, that was a long time to deal with those drains!  I think I would have taken to lying about them or ripping them out, but I'm an awful patient, to be sure. 

    MamaV, oh, it was so good to hear you are in exactly the same shape as me on this Taxol thing.  Yesterday I couldn't believe that my feet were so swollen and red, just one day after chemo.  I have gotten this peripheral neuropathy in my feet and hands, so they swell and get red.  But my arms did not hurt as badly this morning, plus I got up at a decent hour.  They extended my chemo from one hour to two hours, and apparently it is helping those neuropathy side effects.

    All, I got out my mirror and put on my glasses and looked at my eyebrows.  They're hard to see in the first place, but I do not think they are there.  So, I am now a hairless woman.  Except for the few hairs that stuck around on my head, peach fuzz in back, and then two long strands from the front (I can style them in front of my ears with hat/scarf on) from when I experimented with cold water into my scalp the first couple chemos, had heard cold would keep hair... was going to do my whole head, but I had fevers and couldn't bear to go any further than the front part... and so they stayed.  {GG}<-hairs

  • Jen1832
    Jen1832 Member Posts: 61
    edited July 2011

    Dogeyed - I had neuropathy with Taxotere.  My onc gave me Neurontin and that fixed me right up.  I took it after each treatment for about 7-10 days.  The neuropathy in my fingers and feet have gone away.  Maybe it would work for you?

  • dogeyed
    dogeyed Member Posts: 884
    edited July 2011

    Hi Jen, as it turns out, I take its cousin, Pregabalin or Lyrica, but sweet of you to give me the tip.  I've been taking it for years because of pain from my old back injury from a car wreck.  I do notice that whenever I take it (three times a day), I feel better from the chemo.  Also, my cancer doc gave me some Oxycodone whenever any of my chemo pains get really bad, helps too.  I'm glad your neuropathy went away, I am also assuming the same, it does go down somewhat after the bad days.  But just one more time with Taxol and I'm done!  GG 

  • MamaV
    MamaV Member Posts: 907
    edited July 2011

    Dogeyed- I can't remember if I asked you - any nail problems with taxol? My two big toe nails are painful, oozing a little and lifting off the bed. Ring fingernails look like they might do the same. Erg! One more. One more. One more!

  • ruffy
    ruffy Member Posts: 141
    edited July 2011

    So excited for you gals that have one more treatment left!! I found my last one the best! Best with side effects too because i didn't have another treatment lurking over my shoulder. I still had the side effects and still unfortunately have a few but the feeling I had when my last treatment was over was AWESOME! A good mix of relief, disbelief, and a sense of accomplishment and I'm so happy your day is drawing near!

    Now I'm on to my next step tmrw- surgery, lumpectomy and SNB. I'm s little nervous, well alot nervous - for the needle and for the path results but one thing at a time, right.

    We were at the cottage this weekend and I caught a fish, normally I would call hubby over to get it off the hook. I did call him, then I looked at the fish, thought of all I've been through, chemo etc and thought what am I scared of! I took the fish off myself, small accomplishment yes, but a big realization for me - we are tough, brave, women. :)

    Thinking of everyone- sorry this was so long. :( procrastinating the unpacking!

  • charlottesmama
    charlottesmama Member Posts: 250
    edited July 2011

    Uhoh. Here I go with the sparkly pokes and pains. I took some Aleve. I'll see how it goes this time. Oxy at the ready.

  • LisaGH
    LisaGH Member Posts: 242
    edited July 2011

    Feb 2011 pals- great to see more folks getting through. I did seem to have alot of weird aches/pains on the Taxotere and Carbo- didn't seem to know really when it would hit. Now 4 1/2 weeks from last round of TCH#6 not having that. My legs do still burn some- but that's getting better.

    Cheers and Happy 4th to you all! Appreciate the support here.

    Lisa

  • dogeyed
    dogeyed Member Posts: 884
    edited July 2011

    So glad to hear from you, RUFFOLO!  Surgery tomorrow, huh?  Well, glad they're gonna get it outta there.  That's next for me, hopefully before July is out.  Give us a shout when you can move again!

    Oh, gosh, MAMAV, I'm so sorry about your nails.  My big toenails have been blackened for a long while, but they're still sticking to me.  Fingers are okay.  I kept them cut real short cuz someone said that would help, but I can tell that both toe and fingernails are sticking up in odd positions, some of them.  One more!

    MICHELLE, bless you having to go thru chemo again, I hope you don't have many left.  Yesterday I was hurting pretty bad, and this morning was rough too, mostly my arms from neuropathy burning. 

    Thanks for the hello and update, LISA, sometimes my side-FX will come Saturday full-force, other times Sunday, but it's how long they last that is a mystery for me.  July 4th, I cannot believe it.  Who'd have thunk all of us would go from waaaay back in February, still winter, and make it all the way to now, summer.  Love to all, GG  P.S.  Oh, how I wish I knew where our Fuzzy was. 

  • Jen1832
    Jen1832 Member Posts: 61
    edited July 2011

    dogeyed and MamaV - Praying for you girls to get through your last chemo.  It is very uplifting to think that you don't have to go through it again.  Ruffolo1 is right about that. 

    February seems like it was just yesterday and I am so proud of all of us for getting through it, but there are still hurdles to jump (hair growth, ports out, reconstruction, along with all of the other SEs we have to deal with).  Finishing chemo does allow us to focus on other things though.  I am grateful for that. 

    I am also glad that I spoke up.  I was a lurker for too long.  I have needed you girls.

  • MamaV
    MamaV Member Posts: 907
    edited July 2011

    Thank you jen and everyone else with encouragement for the last one! I never thought I'd make it and cant believe it's really in 4 days! I will continue to pray for the last few bringing up the rear. This has been such a long 6 months of chemo! Still so much ahead of me, but at least this poisoning is coming to an end!

  • MamaV
    MamaV Member Posts: 907
    edited July 2011

    Dogeyed - I do keep my nails short but that didn't seem to matter. Whatever - I'm so done with this sh!t. Oh wait - we are this week! Yay us!

  • LisaGH
    LisaGH Member Posts: 242
    edited July 2011

    Yeah to those finishing up chemo- it's a great feeling!

  • dogeyed
    dogeyed Member Posts: 884
    edited July 2011

    MamaV, you're too funny.  Oh, I imagine mine will peel off as they wheel me into surgery.  Smile  GG

  • charlottesmama
    charlottesmama Member Posts: 250
    edited July 2011

    Hi ladies. This last Taxol (#3 of 4) hasn't affected me as intensely as the previous two. I got a new Rx for Oxy in a capsule this time (rather than a big honkin' tablet) and it seems to work very quickly. I took it "proactively" and it seems to be working. Some aches and pains, but nothing like the first time.

    My head is nearly bald. So sad since I had grown in a nice thick new pelt. Now I look like a mangey poodle. Gotta get shaved again. To add insult to injury, I seem to be breaking out in pimples on my face AND scalp. Could I feel any uglier? Well, at least I don't have cancer any more, right? LOL!

    I've been very impatient with my daughter and feel so mean and ugly after I snap at her. And I seem to snap a lot these days. Lots of bahavioral stuff that quickly puts me over the edge. I've just gotta get to the end of this cancer crap so I can focus on her and her needs. I'm exhausted.

    I feel so lucky to be able to sound off to you amazing pack of women. So many things I could Fnever share with my immediate family and friends. Thanks for being here Fab Feb Gals. 

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited July 2011

    charlottesmama - Hang in!  Glad you got some good meds that are working.  I am hoping for the same last tx for you that I had, very little SE, and a gentle letdown.  What do you have left when you get to the last tx?  Any other treatment?

    All that other stuff will work itself out, and soon you will ease on back to focusing on your daughter.  I think we all feel like we haven't been able to do our best lately!

    Kathie

  • dogeyed
    dogeyed Member Posts: 884
    edited July 2011

    Michelle, I ditto what Special K said.  Your mood will improve once this entire second chemo is over.  Just yesterday I got alll pissy about one of our dogs having diarrhea and took it out on my husband.  I feel like a bum today.  He understands, but still...  But just one more tomorrow (hooray MamaV!), and lucky for me, today is the first day of the week that I haven't felt ovewhelming pain when I got up. 

    I have heard of post traumatic stress getting to some cancer ladies, and instead of me holding onto it until some awkward time, I have ongoing swamp fever:  complaining, moaning, and groaning, screaming.  I'm very fussy these days.  I will have to resume some walking exercise, to rest my body and mind from all this tension.  As soon as Taxol wears off next go, I'll pick it back up.  Bye for now, Gail

  • DivineMrsM
    DivineMrsM Member Posts: 9,620
    edited July 2011

    dogeyed, can you expand on that comment of post traumatic stress getting to some cancer ladies?  I had not heard that, but am experiencing a higher level of anxiety now that my chemo is done.  I am scheduled for a lumpectomy on Friday the 8th.  Weeks ago it wasn't bothering me.  Then I had to have an EKG prior to surgery and it came back abnormal.  Was required to see a cardiologist to get surgery clearance, and was able to do that yesterday.  Cardiologist ran another EKG and had no concerns after questioning and examining me.  

    Yet I still feel some anxiety and adding any kind of stress to my daily routine sends me over the edge.  I saw the nurse practitioner, whom I really like, at my primary care physician's office last week and told her of all the anxiety and stress in my life and she prescribed (generic) Zoloft.  Have been taking it almost a week now and see some improvement but still have those antsy, emotional fears and worry that creep into my thoughts.  I am using some meditation tapes I have on my ipod to help.  I can't seem to find my way back to the peace of mind and sense of well being I had prior to bc.

  • Dogbiskit
    Dogbiskit Member Posts: 23
    edited July 2011

    So happy you're almost done, dogeyed and mamav!!! Do they have a bell to ring in your hospital for last chemo? They do at my hospital and it's the happiest sound you can imagine so ring that bell - even if it's just in your head!

  • sewingnut
    sewingnut Member Posts: 1,129
    edited July 2011

    When I was done with TCH all the nurses wore pink crowns and sang me a song. Then they blew horns. Everyone was laughing in the chemo room. I was told I get the same treatment when I finish Herceptin.

  • dogeyed
    dogeyed Member Posts: 884
    edited July 2011

    Divine,

    Yes, on the Post Traumatic Stress Disorder thing, here is our website's link to the forum on that:

    http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/102

    There is also some info in the general treatment/symptoms sections of the website, the menu across the very top of the page, altho I have not looked thru that stuff.  But here is one link to it:

    http://www.breastcancer.org/treatment/side_effects/stress_disorder.jsp 

     Post Traumatic Stress Disorder or PTSD, as you probably already know, is a term used for soldiers who come home from battle and they're a nervous wreck, their tension affects their behavior, relationships, independence, and so on.  Since their particular brand of PTSD is from explosions and firefights, when they come home they are still hypervigilant, always looking for the next enemy on the street to fire off a rocket or something.  I wrote an article about it when I used to work on newspapers, talked to the head Psych doc at our VA hospital, and he explained it all to me.  It has been one of the subjects of a few movies, where our men just lose it outta nowhere.  In "Coming Home," Bruce Dern sort of panics after he comes home, he cannot relax and gets rather paranoid about people close to him, he's particularly good at looking pretty wild in the face.

    I would think tranquilizers are what calm a person waaay down, as you probably already know if you took any during your treatment, altho I cannot argue about Zoloft, it has properties in it that prevent a person from worrying about stuff too long.  One thing that helps PTSD is talking about the stress, could be a local psychologist could help you with a few visits.  I've had a couple nervous breakdowns in my day, and exercise helps relieve stress better than almost anything, to where you break a sweat three or four times a week.  Swimming is good, jogging or long walks, just whatever you like to do.  Deep breathing helps in a pinch, it slows the heart down, so whenever you feel your nerves firing up, take a real deep breath, blow it out, breathe normal a few times, then repeat up to ten times.  It lowers the heartrate and thus the stress.

    When you think about it, we have been like soldiers in battle, getting shot at, wounded, constantly invaded, endless tornados of pain and emotion, and when we're finally on leave, we keep thinking the other shoe is going to drop.  But Divine, there is also a chance that your heart IS having a minor rhythm problem, perhaps, since some chemotherapies can affect the heart in a negative way.  Perhaps you can get the cardio doc to further explore the situation, just to rule out any problems.  I had two "Muga" scans for my heart, I felt my heart hurting numerous times during chemo and they wanted to make sure I was okay.  There's also some kind of dopplar machine, cardiologists have them, where they can watch in real time how well the blood is being pumped thru the heart.  If it's injured in some small way, they can give medicines to keep you straight.

    I remember in my first rounds of the hardest chemo, another woman here and myself both got to where we were nervous wrecks when we came on chemo day, and I always took a little stuffed bear for security, and I was clinging so tightly to it, hands were shaking, got sweat all ove my bear, just because I knew how bad the side effects were going to be, even tho the chemo infusion itself wasn't a big deal.  And yesterday, after several weeks of declining stamina from Taxol's cumulative effects to where they changed the timing of my chemo from one hour to two, it helped me enough that I didn't feel too badly yesterday... so what did I do?  I slept almost the entire day, and easily went to bed and slept all night, too.  I was exhausted from stress.  PTSD can get like that, too, where a person is so wired, they cannot relax.  I had no idea I was so tired from nerves.

    I didn't mean to write a book, and I don't think I really offered much help, Divine.  But I just wanted to pull out everything I could think of on the subject to help you along with looking into PTSD.  It is a real thing, we've got it as a subject in our forumsI hope you will check out that PTSD forum, maybe there's a few threads that have been started by the ones who are dealing with this type of anxiety from cancer/chemo, etc.  And I'm sure you can find info about PTSD not only hopefully at our website, but also perhaps online, to give you a baseline of knowledge to see if you fit that pattern.  We have to bury a lot of stuff while we're going thru treatment or else we wouldn't be able to stand up to it.  No wonder you feel a little off, your nerves are fried, you've had it, girl.  If it's any help, I've pretty much had it, too, but only time will tell if stress sticks to me once treatment is over.  Love, Gail

  • MamaV
    MamaV Member Posts: 907
    edited July 2011

    I am done!!!!!! Got a diploma and lots of hugs! Boy did chemo suck!

  • pejkug3
    pejkug3 Member Posts: 902
    edited July 2011

    CONGRATS MAMAV!!

    DO you have to do rads?

  • MamaV
    MamaV Member Posts: 907
    edited July 2011

    pejkug3 - ug - yes.  I see the RO on Wednesday next week.  Gotta be better than chemo, right?

  • dragonfly1
    dragonfly1 Member Posts: 766
    edited July 2011
    MamaV Congrats on finishing chemo!!! I know everyone is different but if it makes you feel better, I've had 11 of 33 Rads so far with absolutely no problem-I'm still fatigued from chemo but Rads has been a breeze compared to the chemo nightmare...
  • DivineMrsM
    DivineMrsM Member Posts: 9,620
    edited July 2011

    dogeyed, thank you so much for your reply which, btw, was very helpful.  I appreciate very much that you gave the subject some time and wrote what you did.  And thanks for letting me know there are links on this website about PTSD.  I've begun to check them out, and how helpful they are!  It never occured to me that what I'm experiencing has happened to others, too.  What a wealth of information and support this website continues to be.

  • MamaV
    MamaV Member Posts: 907
    edited July 2011

    dragonfly - thanks!  Good to hear!  Hope it continues to go well and I follow in your path!

    Oh - I forgot to share - received results BRCA NEGATIVE!

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited July 2011

    MamaV - congrats on the big chemo finish!  And on the negative gene mutation results - I remember the long wait for those results, and being so happy for my children (and me!) when I got a negative also!

    Divine - Good luck tomorrow - you are going to do great, try not to worry.  I will be thinking about you.

  • Jen1832
    Jen1832 Member Posts: 61
    edited July 2011

    Congrats to MamaV for finishing chemo!!!  Dogeyed, aren't you done too?  I was thinking about you girls today.  Hopefully you felt the relief that I felt three weeks ago today.  I realized this morning that it would have been a treatment day on my normal chemo cycle.  What a thrill for it to be just a regular day!

  • Melanie_Ann
    Melanie_Ann Member Posts: 414
    edited July 2011

    Congratulations MamaV! woohoo! I'm also doing RADS and I've had 13. So far it's going well! =)

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