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rzxcd Member Posts: 35
edited June 2014 in Working on Your Fitness

I am almost 3 yrs post cancer diag. I exercised all through treatment and after. I always did just fine. Last year I bought a bicycle and rode 20 miles most days except in winter I went to the gym.I'm training for a tour this year 430miles in a week. I'm worried lately I've noticed I do just fine most of the time but lately I've found that some days I just can't seem to catch my breath I just huff n puff my way through. I have to wonder if somethings up or maybe some after treatment affects might be showing there ugly head. I try not to over do and make sure I eat and stay hydrated. Any othe Bicycle enthusiasts out there that can give me some advice?

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  • Claire_in_Seattle
    Claire_in_Seattle Member Posts: 4,570
    edited May 2011

    Hi......

    I did the Seattle-to-Portland w/i six weeks of radiation last year. This was 202 miles over 2 days.  I remember that I had to make sure I ate all the anti-bonk potions as crashed each day between mile 20-30.  I think I am just fine for this year.

    I think this is a question of managing energy.  I can't do a major cycling event w/o my friends: Accelerade, GU gel, and shot blocks.  Plus any number of other energy potions.

    When you are doing a major amount of miles, you need to do everything that we have been trained NOT to do.  You need sugar; you need calories; huge meals are probably too much, but you do need high energy snacks. 

    You also need to push yourself.  That is how you get stronger.

    But unless you put major calories into your system, you won't get there.  Because, you don't want to be doing an event where your body needs 3500 calories and feed it 850.  It will tank on you every time.

    My friends who cycled across the country last year were consuming 7000-8000 every day.  I think more than you need, but you get the gist of what I am saying.

    Good luck.  My two pieces of advice are to make sure you are getting enough calories, plus train.  Oh, and make sure you keep your tires pumped up.  Major difference in cycling 50 miles with 110 psi vs 80 psi. - Claire

  • MariannaLaFrance
    MariannaLaFrance Member Posts: 777
    edited June 2011

    Hi,

    Another biking enthusiast here. I am also doing the Seattle to Portland ride this year. I have no experience with that ride, but did do the YSC Tour de Pink last year, amongst a few other century rides. Agree with Claire that you must eat before you are hungry on the ride. That means 200 calories an hour, so keep snacks handy. I keep energy gels (Bee Honey -B Vitamins), Almond Butter sandwiches, energy bars in my bento box or stuffed into my back bag and jersey.  I make sure to drink one full bottle an hour (especially during hot rides here in Texas), plus a snack every hour. Sometimes you won't feel like eating, so make sure you do it anyway so you don't bonk out unexpectedly.

    I often have days where I am winded and cannot feel energetic. So do my friends who haven't had cancer. Just goes with the territory, I think!  Just keep training, and remember that your "off" days are just as important for recovery as your ride days.....

    Good luck, which ride are you doing?

  • Claire_in_Seattle
    Claire_in_Seattle Member Posts: 4,570
    edited June 2011

    Hi Marianna,

    I will be the STP rider with the ankle brace as wiped out about 10 days ago.  I think I will be fine to ride, but obviously not trained quite as much as I would like to be.

    I did the STP last year w/i 6 weeks of finishing radiation.  I found I needed to use all my energy potions between Mile 20 and Mile 30 each day.  Otherwise, I had enough stamina to ride the 100 miles each day.

    I need to get a box of GU gels as a lifeline.

    I did have less lung capacity following radiation, which I think was better about 6 months later.  Noticed a big surge in energy then.  But don't think totally healed as pulled my lower pec about 4 months ago x-country skiing in heavy powder.

    I think I have full energy now and both pecs are now healed.

    Now if I can get that foot/ankle to feel better.  Will be training anyway this weekend as will be dead meat otherwise.

    One other thing.  The official hydration stuff is Nuun which I find useless as no sugar in it.  I need sugar, so be forewarned.  I normally use Accelerade.  Again, you need calories.  Otherwise, you bonk which is no fun.  I have done that one too, which is why I am giving this warning.

    Sort of like stopping at the Starbucks on my up skiing and saying "I want the breakfast sandwich with the most calories." - Claire

    p.s.  I will also say that nothing with breast cancer treatment equals getting back on that bicycle seat on Day 2.  Really!!!

  • MariannaLaFrance
    MariannaLaFrance Member Posts: 777
    edited June 2011

    Ugh, Day 2 is my worry, especially as we never really met the training schedule. We have managed 20mi daily, with a Sat-Sun 40 miles each day.  We did one rally that was 74 miles, but did not get on our bikes the following day for a long ride. I am worried!!!!

    We are 4 ladies from Texas, you cannot miss the Bento box on all our bikes, as they have a Texas flag on them, and Richardson Bike Mart on the other side. Hopefully will see you amongst the 10,000 other bikers!!!

    I am excited to ride this one, as we've been facing lots of heat here. What a joy to ride in cooler weather!! 

  • Claire_in_Seattle
    Claire_in_Seattle Member Posts: 4,570
    edited June 2011

    Forgot to mention that a latte sets you up for Day 2.  This is WA state so you will find the drive up espresso stands along the route.  Some guys stopped at the Cowgirls one last year, and woke up really fast at 6 AM when they were served by baristas wearing next to nothing.

    There will be enough adrenalin going to get you through the start of Day 2.

    I suggest ibuprofen too.

    Make sure you pack a warm sweater.  I have needed it.  I have a v neck cashmere sweater I bought on eBay.  I wore on Day 2 the last 2 years.  You can have a hot first day (80s) and a chilly second day (near 60).  If really hot, people are out with hoses.

    There are usually only a few really hot days in Seattle.  People come here with summer clothes and freeze.  It's 54 out right now, going up to the high 60s today.

    You may not need the sweater, but you don't want hypothermia either.  During last year's LIVESTRONG, hypothermia was no joke.  I had on TWO sweaters and still froze.

    I am sure though that you will find this weather a treat after roasting in Texas. - Claire

  • Claire_in_Seattle
    Claire_in_Seattle Member Posts: 4,570
    edited June 2011

    You will be fine having done the 74 mile ride.  I had planned to do longer rides the past 2 weekends, but couldn't with my ankle.  I will do one 40-50 one this weekend plus 2 fun rides.

    The question is "can you get on your bicycle and keep going for hours".  If you are conditioned, you will be fine.

    You will need about three lunches the day after and feel depleted.  Make sure you eat them. - Claire

  • MariannaLaFrance
    MariannaLaFrance Member Posts: 777
    edited June 2011

    Wow, thanks for the information! I am glad to know about the drive thru coffee, as I am an addict and was worried about getting enough caffeine on Day 2, as we're staying in a church in Centralia.  Not sure how well I'll be sleeping after a night on the floor on a pool floatie. 

    So, as I was reading the guide, I noticed that there are rest stops where you have to pay for food?  Is that the norm on this ride? I need to bring cash if that's the case.  We were a little puzzled by that, and wondered if that was every stop, or just the "mini-stops" on the route.  

    We are shipping our bikes out tonight, so we're officially road bike-less for a week. Have toyed with the idea of putting some miles on my mountain bike.... lol, train heavy, ride light.  

    Thanks for the tips on the clothing. I got my tyvek jacket in the mail, and figured I would use that with a long sleeve jersey, plus a tank style undershirt. Is that enough, or do you think a sweater as well?  I'll bring one in any case. I also wanted to pack my knickers and leg warmers.... do you find that those are good for the ride? How wild to be talking about sweaters in July. I am so happy to cycle in cooler weather. It is brutal here, and our last ride topped out at around 101 degrees, which I find dreadful. 

  • Claire_in_Seattle
    Claire_in_Seattle Member Posts: 4,570
    edited June 2011

    You need a sweater as a long sleeve jersey isn't warm enough even under the jacket.  Not when temps are in the 50s with rain.  Of course, now that I say this, temps will be in the 80s both days, but 2 years ago, one of my friends got rescued on Day 2 because of hypothermia.

    So bring a sweater just to be sure.

    You need money too.  A lot of organizations use this event for fund raising, so you will want to buy things.  Places where I think you will need money:

    1. The Puyallup stop, for one of their home-baked snacks.
    2. Important......you are much better off cycling past the Day 1 lunch stop and hitting Safeway a quarter mile down the road.  The food at the stop is wraps and not tasty.  You have shade, real toilets, and whatever you want to eat at Safeway.  Much better to spend $10 there.
    3. Later food stop at Tennino.
    4. Beer in Centralia.   You won't get brewskys at the church, and part of the fun is the real ale.  You want to see the town too.  Really a fun scene.
    5. Lattes along the way on Day 2, most likely in Winlock.  You may also want one cycling out of Centralia.
    6. Food stops on the Oregon side.
    7. Food at the end.  Trust me, you will need food then, and not free at the finish line.  Plus a beer most likely.

    One final tip is to eat one of each of your anti-bonk potions at the Scappoose rest stop which is just before you enter Portland.  You have another 18 miles at that point.  You will fly to the finish.

    Make sure that you pump up your tires at the lunch stop on Day 2, and that you eat something once you cross the Longview Bridge.  You need it.  There is another espresso joint there too.

    BTW - Group Health who sponsor this event with Cascade are where I was treated.  One reason they supported my cycling throughout. - Claire

  • Claire_in_Seattle
    Claire_in_Seattle Member Posts: 4,570
    edited June 2011

    I would put in some miles on my mountain bike this weekend, if I were you.  I think you need this extra training.

  • MariannaLaFrance
    MariannaLaFrance Member Posts: 777
    edited June 2011

    Noted. Just pulled my mountain bike out of the shed and will get it ready for this weekend. I'm meeting up with our group tonight and will share this very useful information.  Thank you for sharing this, as we do feel a little out of comfort zone, riding in a new region with not enough training. 

    Nice that Group Health supported your ride as well.

    I am really excited about the ride, and hope that I don't end up in sag wagon.

  • Claire_in_Seattle
    Claire_in_Seattle Member Posts: 4,570
    edited June 2011

    Actually, Group Health doesn't sponsor ME, just the event.  They do a number of other ones, and even have a fitness website for members (they are a cooperative) and employees.  Was wonderful fun calling my radiation oncologist a weenie last year.  This was during my follow up visit.

    I was the one doing the ride, and he is also a cyclist.  He agreed with me BTW.

    Glad I was able to help here.  I have learned all this the hard way.

  • MariannaLaFrance
    MariannaLaFrance Member Posts: 777
    edited July 2011

    Hi Claire,

    Getting ready to leave this Thursday. Had a spin class and did 20 miles yesterday and today with mountain bike.  Shipped my bike out! I am super excited to do the STP ride. I am sending you a link to my blog so maybe you can spot our group out of the 10,000 attendees!! I am sure there are not that many groups of ladies coming from Texas, either.

     Anyway, good luck with the STP, and hope you get to post more information about how the ride turns out for you, if I don't run into you there!

  • Claire_in_Seattle
    Claire_in_Seattle Member Posts: 4,570
    edited July 2011

    Hi Marianna,

    Wanted to send you and your group my best wishes, and yes, I will post how it goes.  Glad I told you to bring sweaters as really needed mine yesterday.

    Picked up my packet, so am really excited. It's always quite the adventure. - Claire

  • proudtospin
    proudtospin Member Posts: 5,972
    edited July 2011

    I am jealous! good luck and sure you will do great

     fund raising rides are great!  and N W states sounds like something for my bucket list

  • Claire_in_Seattle
    Claire_in_Seattle Member Posts: 4,570
    edited July 2011

    Marianna and I both got to Portland!!!  We are both still eating everything in sight.

    Anyway, I posted a pic in one of my other recent posts.  I was absolutely fine, other than my trashed ankle which was really hurting towards the end.

    Fundraising was for Cascade.  Just the most amazing cycling here. - Claire

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