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FrancesC
FrancesC Member Posts: 346
edited June 2014 in Stage III Breast Cancer

Aug 2011 will be the 5th year anniversary for my right breast cancer.  Just 2 months short, I am now diagnosed with Stage 3a cancer in the left breast.  The right breast was hormone receptive and I have been on Tamoxifen and now this left side is non hormone reactive.  Its been a roller coaster week and just back from my surgery.  Physically strong but mentally I am crumbling.  Can anyone share experience of having a port / catheter inserted?

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  • chrissyb
    chrissyb Member Posts: 16,818
    edited June 2011

    Hi Frances I can't help you with your question re port/catheter insertion but I can offer you a (((((hug)))) and an assurance that someone that can help will be along shortly.  Hang in there and welcome to BCO.

    Love n hugs.  Chrissy

  • kimber3006
    kimber3006 Member Posts: 586
    edited June 2011

    Frances - So sorry to hear you have to fight this battle again.  Once a lifetime is certainly enough for anyone.  The port surgery is very quick and simple for just about everyone, I think.  It's outpatient, light anesthesia, and out in time for lunch.  My port stuck out quite a bit on my bony chest and was a real aggravation sometimes, especially with my seatbelt, but boy does it make for fast, easy chemo treatments.  Welcome, and best of luck with both your surgery and your treatment.

  • FrancesC
    FrancesC Member Posts: 346
    edited June 2011

    Thanks ladies.  Breast surgeon recommended to start chemo as soon as possible, next week. Seeing onco on Friday.  Have been under onco's care all these years and it wasnt even him to discovered the growth.  Was picked up during health screening by another doc.  Cant have IV on both arms now so need to insert the port.  Anyway was hell in previous chemo as nurse could never find the vein.

  • chrissyb
    chrissyb Member Posts: 16,818
    edited June 2011

    Good luck Frances!  Hope it all goes well for you.

    Love n hugs.  Chrissy

  • sewingnut
    sewingnut Member Posts: 1,129
    edited June 2011

    Frances,

    Mark your bra strap before you go in for the port installation. My Dr put it  about a finger width from my collar bone. I have been having trouble finding new bras as the port seems to be half under the bra strap and it rubs (very irritating). I am still wearing my pre surgery bras. The installation of the port was done out patient with light sedation. Dont remember a thing, just the way I like it.  Good luck....

  • mrsnjband
    mrsnjband Member Posts: 1,409
    edited June 2011

    Hi Frances,

    I had a port & it made chemo a breeze.  I had chemo first & it was needed for my surgery so I kept it.  I had a lot of blood draws & check ups the first 2 years and having it made them so easy.  Here I am 3.5 years out & I still have it.  Some people don't like them but once I got used to mine I don't remember it's there.  Hope this helps. NJ

  • FrancesC
    FrancesC Member Posts: 346
    edited June 2011

    Good Tip on the bra strap.  

    Norma - thanks so comforting to know that .  Alleviates my fear. 

  • Letlet
    Letlet Member Posts: 1,053
    edited June 2011

    Frances, so sorry that you are going through this. I have a port and I was uncomfortable the first week but after that everything was good and it is very, very coonvenient for me. I barefly feel it at all!

  • jennyboog
    jennyboog Member Posts: 1,322
    edited June 2011

    Sorry to hear you've had to join us...again.  I have a port and it made things so much easier.  You still feel a stick but at least you know they are for sure going to get blood and you don't have to do stick after stick while they hunt for a good one.  I've had no issues with mine at all.  The placement was a breeze, went home same day and was just a little sore.  It can be irritating with some shirts but a small price to pay for the convienence of it.  I think there is a "Just dx with a reoccurence" forum, you might find some help there also.  Let us know how things go, we're here for you with cyber hugs and listening ears.

  • FrancesC
    FrancesC Member Posts: 346
    edited June 2011

    Thanks to all ladies, it has been very heart warming to receive all the posts.  Jennifer - I will check out the Just dx with a reoccurrence forum.  I am new to this forum and will spend time navigating through the posts.  was pretty depressed just now but am gaining strength reading all the posts of encouragement.  5 years back I almost died after 4th chemo as I had a bad gum infection which deteriorated to full blown lesions in my entire mouth and could not eat for a month.  Miraculously through God I survived that ordeal and this time round, I will be visiting my dentist before every chemo.

    Love & Hugs to all. 

  • pupfoster1
    pupfoster1 Member Posts: 1,484
    edited June 2011

    (((Hugs))) Frances,

    I am so sorry you are having to go through this again.  It sounds as though it's localized so that at least is a good thing.

    I had no problem with the port installation.  They had me in twilight, and oddly enough I was awake and chatting with the cute surgeon the entire time :), didn't feel a thing.  And for me I was glad to have it put in as my veins don't always cooperate under normal circumstances, and chemo can make it more difficult to access one, so I never regretted it.  And once I was done it came out immediately.

    I had really bad mouth sores too during my A/C, but they only lasted a couple weeks.  They delayed one treatment and almost didn't want to give me the full dose, but I talked her into it.  I hit my mouth w/every imaginable tx---Biotene mouthwash, toothpaste, gel, baking soda rinse, and of course the "magic" mouthwash they px me.  If I timed everything just right (including oxycodone) I could manage to eat and drink a bit while my mouth and throat were still numb.  Sure sucked though, especially as my appetite had just come back (food smelled SOO good).

    What's the game plan for your chemo?

    Take care,

    Sharon

  • FrancesC
    FrancesC Member Posts: 346
    edited June 2011

    Sharon - I am seeing my onco this friday morning.  ONe thing for sure I dont want the ulcers to be back.  I understand what you went through as I had it myself.  Food was blended real fine then but every spoonful hurts very badly, felt like millions of fire ants thrown into your mouth and stayed there, stinging away.  I am likely to have dense dose this time, every 2 weeks.  so will be stocking up on antibacterial mouthwash, mucotaine etc.  It is a battle I will fight out.  Will be seeing dentist for a thorough clean before every chemo too.

  • FrancesC
    FrancesC Member Posts: 346
    edited June 2011

    Thanks Sherri! I welcome all your support and lift me up from this dark dark abyss.

  • KerryMac
    KerryMac Member Posts: 3,529
    edited June 2011

    Frances, I just want to welcome you as well. I am so sorry about the circumstances, that really, really sucks. You'll find loads of great support here though!

  • shockedat39
    shockedat39 Member Posts: 252
    edited June 2011

    Hi Frances,

    I am sorry you had to join us, but you will find so much support here.

    I do have to admit that your question about having the port inserted made me smile.  My experience was both embarassing and funny.  The tech who put me under sedation was one of the best-looking men I have ever seen.  He seriously made me forget that I would be on my way to my first chemo right after the procedure. So of course, as I was waking I hear McDreamy saying in a very amused voice "listen to her snoring!!"  Gah!  I was so embarassed but had to laugh too.

    I hope this story wasn't misplaced but hoping you might get a smile out of it too.

    Good luck and keep in touch.

     Diane 

  • lkc
    lkc Member Posts: 1,203
    edited June 2011

    Hi Frances, Sorry you're joining us, but glad you found our group. we will help you through. Come here often for support and great information, We all " get it" and can help negotiate those dark days

    It is all do able  with support.

    The port was simple to be implanted and even simpler to remove!

  • FrancesC
    FrancesC Member Posts: 346
    edited June 2011

    Hi all, good morning from this side of earth! Yes yes yes, all positive thoughts and support and I look forward to waking up each beautiful morning to log in to this forum to chat with you ladies.  Life is too beautiful to wallow in self pity!  I have been encouraged by all.  Diane - hope I get a super cute doc to insert the port:) as I react very badly to GA.

  • Fitz33
    Fitz33 Member Posts: 243
    edited June 2011

    Sorry to hear you're joining us Frances, but welcome.  As far as my port goes, I had it installed with no problems and was out in a couple of hours.  My veins have always been hard to find so it's been a godsend for me to have it.  When you do have your port used, put on some Emla prescription cream to numb the area a little.  Put that on about an hour before the draw.  You'll be so pleased to have a port.  You'll realize it after your first treatment.

     You'll beat this again I'm sure but we're here for you for the journey.

  • FrancesC
    FrancesC Member Posts: 346
    edited June 2011

    Hi Fitz - what is emla prescription cream? i dont know if I can get it in this part of world.  Any other equivalent? Did you go through GA to have it installed? or was it local? Was it painful?

  • AnacortesGirl
    AnacortesGirl Member Posts: 1,758
    edited June 2011

    Hi Frances! Welcome!  I'm so sorry you got dx'ed with a second primary but I'm glad you found us.

    I'm another one who found out the port placement is important for women who don't have much fat.  I eventually had to have my original port removed and a smaller one inserted.  The first surgeon didn't even tell me that there are different sizes so that was great relief to know I was getting a smaller one.  The second surgeon took time with me to figure out the best place and I still have it almost a year after my last chemo.  Doesn't bother me at all!

    I'm one of those that loves having a port.  I do not like IVs.  But don't be surprised if it hurts for the first week after it's been placed.  They told me that after it's inserted they can use it right away.  Well, in my case they were going to get their hand bit if they tried!  After a week it was fine. 

    EMLA is lidocaine in a cream.  Some infusion centers use lidocaine before they access the port (i.e. stick the needle in) and others don't.  The place where I go they give you a shot of lidocaine first -- it's a very small needle so they tell you it's a misquito bite.  But I've also used the cream.  You slather it on about an hour before and just cover it with plastic wrap so it doesn't get on your clothes.

  • Fitz33
    Fitz33 Member Posts: 243
    edited June 2011

    Hi Frances:  There is another prescription you can use called "Lidocaine and Prilocaine Cream 2.5% (manufacturer is Fougera) if you can't find the Emla.  I used my cream for the first few chemo treatments and then didn't bother after that as it really didn't hurt but for a second.  The nurse will usually tell you to take a deep breath when she inserts the port and when she takes it out.  I never feel it at all when she removes it.  I'm not sure what I was given when they inserted it in the hospital but I didn't remember anything so had no pain.  They cover it with tape and that's when I found out I'm allergic to surgical tape as I broke out with a rash and blisters.  It wasn't too bad and I'd rather it happened then than for something more serious.  You only keep the bandages on a couple of days.  I had a female surgeon so she knew not to install the port where my bra strap was and I haven't had any problems.  No one has ever noticed it as it's low on the chest. 

  • jennyboog
    jennyboog Member Posts: 1,322
    edited June 2011

    If they don't have the cream they might have a "freezing spray", not as good as the cream but does make it a less sensitive.

  • FrancesC
    FrancesC Member Posts: 346
    edited June 2011

    Good morning...thanks for the information. Will go to the healthcare store to get them. I feel much better reading al your posts on the port. One step at a time... Port then chemotherapy. Over here we have traditional Chinese medicine Practioners and i have also been recommended to one who can help alleviate SEs during chemo. Hope it works. Anyone trying the joanna budwig diet protocol? Flaxseed oil and cottage cheese. She was a German scientist.

  • MoniqueG
    MoniqueG Member Posts: 15
    edited June 2011

    Hi Frances.  Sorry to hear about your recent diagnosis.  Just thought I'd add my 2 cents about the port.  I didn't get one, and sorely regretted it.  It was often tricky for the chemo nurses to get a good stick in my veins, and toward the end of chemo, I had a massive Taxol leak into my hand, which badly injured my right hand for several months.  That pain was far worse than the chemo!!  So I decided then and there that if I ever had to go through this again, I'd definitely get a port.  And part of the reason I didn't get one is because I too react badly to anesthesia, but it's amazing what they can pull off these days - I had NO trouble from anesthesia after the mastectomy surgery.

  • FrancesC
    FrancesC Member Posts: 346
    edited June 2011

    Thanks Monique. I m pretty resolved to getting the port done.

  • Karina121293
    Karina121293 Member Posts: 370
    edited June 2011

    Hi Frances. Sorry you have to join the group, but you sound very concentrated on your treatment and that's great!!!

    I have read a lot about Budwig protocol, even had it for a month after my surgery in January. Then stopped because I started chemo and I read that it's best not to interfere with chemo,  But next month I will be done with chemo and looking into starting it again. The only doubt in my case is that flax has phytoestrogen in it and I am er +. So need to do more research. Have asked few times on these boards, but no experience shared yet.

    Good luck with your treatment. You CAN and WILL do it !!! Let us know if/ when you start Budwig.

    Hugs,

    Karina 

  • FrancesC
    FrancesC Member Posts: 346
    edited June 2011

    Hi Katrina. My last cancer I was estrogen +ve. This one isn't. Yet to test on HER2. I just bought the flaxseed oil n seeds. Yet to find the organic cottage cheese. I m still reading up on budwig protocol n if I come across anything on BC estrogen+ve and flaxseed I will post. Praying for strength to get through this. You take care too!

  • Karina121293
    Karina121293 Member Posts: 370
    edited June 2011

    Thanks Frances. BTW the month I was having it, I was feeling great, no jount pain, lots of energy and a glowing skin. Wish you peace, strength and health xx

  • KerryMac
    KerryMac Member Posts: 3,529
    edited June 2011

    Karina, on the flaxseeds. I did consult with a dietician before I started Chemo and I asked her about Flax. Now she was a general hospital dietitian, not a specialist in Oncology or a nutritionist. Anyhow, she didn't know, so she went away and looked up some stuff for me. She seemed to think that the jury was still out on it, some studies thought it may be beneficial, others warned about the phytoestrogens. Anyhow, I asked her if she were me would she risk it, and her immediate response was no. So, I don't use it.

  • Karina121293
    Karina121293 Member Posts: 370
    edited June 2011

    Kerry, thanks for your input, I am skeptical about taking it, but have read so many positive opinions about it. But since I am er+, I won't risk it myself /what's the use of having ooph and take phytoestrogen /, so I think I will go for my next option - Turmeric and black pepper!!!  Have you any experience on this?

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