I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange
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It hasn't been a pleasant morning, Barbara.
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Well sweeping all this stuff under the carpet has not worked ... at some point it needs to be hashed out. IMO
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They were supposed to have court on Saturday and it was abruptly cancelled even though there were 8 witnesses to testify for the defense. Once again Baez (defense attorney) provided the prosecutors office copies of depositions at the last minute. We are on day 29 of the trial and just now Casey has been determined to be competent. Why did the defense wait so long to get her tested? Might be because they are on the losing side? The trial is being shown on HLN most of the day.
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We are going to have to close the thread if this persists. Thank you.
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Moderators - please do not close this thread.
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Noooo.....please don't.
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Enjoyful.....yeah, why would you put duct tape over her mouth?
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Did they admit to burying the body after she drowned?
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res ipsa loquitur
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Hello again ladies! I've been hesitant to post because of all the fighting but thanks to those of you who hoped I was feeling better. Ya know, I've been reading all this stuff on a few of these threads and it brings back so many horrible memories. I'll just tell you my story and we'll see what gets posted and then maybe I'll be able to figure out who's who. There's been so many deletions, name changes, new members who are really old members, that I really don't know who to trust/believe. I'll admit I don't know the "history" of anybody because I stuck only to the Stage IV board the whole time. I joined this board in 2006 after being diagnosed with mets. I joined the same time as another lady who had the same diagnosis. What I now know was a "ruse" to be my friend and get to know me, I gave her my address/home phone/e-mail. I honestly thought I could trust her and I REALLY needed a friend. She posted tons of times, every day and I honestly thought she just knew her sh*t when it came to metastatic breast cancer. I'm sure you all remember what happened on the Stage IV board in 2007.....well, somehow my address/home phone/email got passed on to a poster who I can only assume was crazy, because her posts were so volatile and ugly. I was harrassed by her on the board/mail/phone/email for months until I decided to leave the boards and asked to have my identity removed. Someone I thought was my friend passed my personal info to someone else, so it was obvious to me how quick someone will turn on you. She was the ONLY person I ever gave my info to. I rejoined the boards when I saw that these two women were no longer posting as much, if at all and thought I would be safe. So far so good, for me anyway. I don't know why I'm rambling on about this, but I really need this board for information and sometimes for a good 'ole distraction and that's why I liked coming to this thread. What the hell happened? From everything I've learned in the almost 6 years of reading this board, there are only 3 women who were consistently mean and ugly to other posters and from what I can tell, don't even log in anymore (maybe under a new name...I don't know). The rest just seems to be friends sticking up for friends, old history of which I am not aware, women having a bad day, or differing opinions. Time to let bygones be bygones. I want to keep posting on this board, but lately I just check in to get pms and post on unimportant issues. Trust me, I know what it's like, I was driven to never post on the Stage IV forum again. I'd hate to see that happen to an all fun-encompassing thread like this one too.
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E....that I don't know. Seems like to would have to admit that if they are now saying she drowned. I read or saw it on TV that the grandfather and mother were home when it happened. When they discovered her, the grandfather started yelling to his daughter, "They are going to put you in jail for this, because it is child neglect."
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To the Moderators
If you close this thread, we'll just start another one. And until you stop the people, esp. those using so many screen names ( sock puppets) from deliberately trying to create tensions where none existed before, it will happen again. This is in a Forum to "Grow friendships" -when individuals who are not interested in "growing friendships" but in waging war start posting, there are problems. It is disingenuous of Moderators to say it is "both sides" causing the problems. The women posting here were fine, until posters who didn't like the thread, started trying to incite problems. This is another version of what happened here several years ago, tho unlike Amy, we aren't afraid.
I agree with White Rabbit - let's tell the truth about who is cauing this. You've got all the information about who is "reporting" posts they just don't happen to "like" - no violation of Community Rules - just retaliation. I've been a victim of that attack, as have many others.
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Well, that's what they say. The grandfather's testified to this? And hiding it from the grandmother?
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The drowning is nothing but a BS defense. The defense is grasping at straws. Casey's father is a retired police officer - yes.....he would get rid of the body for Casey - NOT! The body was in Casey's car decomposing before it was put in trash bags and left at a make shift pet cemetary. The defense also in the opening statements said that Casey was sexually assaulted by her brother and her father and then they did DNA tests to see if they could prove that Caylee was the daughter of the brother or father. Funny thing is that they have not brought these test results into the trial yet. Casey would have to testify about the sexual abuse and nobody has said if Casey is going to testify or not.
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Oh, I'm sure it's all BS. I'm just wondering how they're going to make it plausible.
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PatMom wrote: I don't want to see anyone here banned, but it would be nice if some people would remember that this is first and foremost a support board and refrain from personal attacks and innuendo.
I couldn't agree with this statement more. However, your group certainly doesn't seem to feel the same way when posting on breastcanswers.com. How can anyone believe you or Shirley when you won't be honest about that even though it's all there for the world to see?
Moderators, what is happening here is a classic case of projection. So hypocrytical, self-righteous deceipt is how to get a thread shut down, regardless of what's really happening. I'm stunned! I do thank you for restricting the report this post feature to those who abuse it. Just know that shutting threads down is a bandaid and not fair to the majority of us.
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Sunflower - I was thinking of the same thing - we will just open up another thread - "In Honor of Blue"
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As far as I know the grandmother knew nothing about the death. Jancie are you keeping up on it? You probably know more about what the defense is saying.
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It should be so easy for the moderators to see who is coming here to just stir up crap.
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In Honor of Blue.....I'm down with that.
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Angel - I never thanked you for supporting me the other day. Hope you continue to post more often.
And Gracie - I was not here when the events you describe transpired, but what a triumph that you are here with us and able to tell the story. May your treatment plan continue to work.
I had chicken salad sandwich for breakfast - my period makes me want strange foods at strange times!
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Patty - the defense is trying everything possible to avoid the death penalty - that is what they are concentrating on now - premeditated murder - no doubt they know they have already lost the trial so now it is all about damage control and trying to come up with reasonable doubt to avoid the death penalty.
No, the father never admitted to anything. He testified in court that Casey's car smelled like decomposed dead body. He has not been asked about the "pool" yet. The defense hasn't been calling him to the stand like they are Cindy the grandmother.
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I cannot bear to watch the trial because I want to reach through the screen and strangle TotMom and her lawyer - not to say that I don't harbour the same feelings for Nancy Grace at night so I try to watch an update every so often - I truly think that having TV in the courtroom is a bad thing because too much publicity seems to muddy the waters and I think back to OJ and his aquittal and I blame it on the TV coverage - it seems to make bad lawyers who are good actors win and that's not justice, IMHO.
Sandy
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Athena.....A lot of times I will have left overs from the night before for breakfast. Chicken salad sounds good right now!
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Gracie1
Thank you for telling us of your experience. I never realized it got that bad. Terrifying. I stayed away from the "political" threads in those days because I thought that was where so much of the trouble started. BUT, to hear that you were attacked from the Stage IV Forum, is truly frightening. I left the boards for a long time. Came back as I had learned so much about dealing with the SE's of Arimidex, and wanted to share that information, as well as see how so many of the women I really liked were doing. Now this flares up again, and I am determined to keep a place SAFE for you, for me, for all of us who want to support each other to be together.
The jokes of this thread a few days ago got me through some very difficult days, dealing with the death of a dear friend in my bc support group offline. Let's see how the Moderators can help to keep the reporting button from destroying what we are creating - a peaceful, joyful, funny place to "grow our friendships." thanks again for keeping posting...
edited for spelling, but am sure there are more mistakes..apologies in advance, I really can't spell or type very well!
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Athena - even though I am in menopause - I still go through those food cravings once a month when I would normally had my period. I also eat like crazy! I get so dang hungry and it is about 3 days of the month I go through that.
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Gracie - hugs to you and glad you came back. It doesn't compute with my brain how anybody could be driven off a Stage IV forum. That is just evil.
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Thank you Athena. I am so happy I am still here! Dumb question, but didn't they recommend you get your ovaries yanked?
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....and thanks to you guys too. All things considered, it really is a great place.
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I have to leave for about 4 hours or so......but I will be back
I have a house cleaning job and then off to see my therapist and am not sure if I am going to see my horse today or not. I really need to work on my laundry.
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