Any "fuller figure (or former) " warrior survivors out there?
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Barbe,
When I did Weight Watchers and hit a plateau I was told to increase the calorie intake a little. It evidently fools the body out of a starvation mode and kicks the metabolism back into work mode. Of course I'm still in the "fluffy" mode. Should get back on the program but the taste buds are still off a bit so I eat whatever doesn't tast weird. My son is working up an exercise program for me. Guess all that college tuition will pay off ;0)
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Fellow fatty patty here! My PS said she'd like to see me lose 30-40 lbs. I'd like to lose 75! It's hard to beat the steroid munchies. I have always enjoyed the taste of food--portion control be damned vi am a foodie. Fortunately, I cannot eat as much as I used to post-DIEP. I am consciously trying to make better food choices. Now is the perfect opportunity to gain control over everything.
Barbe--I am far from being a nutritionist, but it appears that you start your day with more carbs (toast or cereal). Try starting with more protein. Your energy will ge sustained, less carbo crashing, and protein keeps your metabolism going. Just a thought--it is never easy!!! -
I eat the carbs in the morning so I have all day to burn them. I am in the middle of a food hating period. I get all creeped out by certain foods right now. I know there's a name for it, but I can't remember, of course!!!
I am NOT hungry through the day!! Honestly. So I must be eating enough for what I need. HELP!!!
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I just got an email from Blue Cross Blue Shield today about Blue Care Connection Weight management program. It's part of my health coverage and I can get a wellness counselor to evaluate, motivate and educate me. Maybe there are other health insurances with this? Also we have a Thrive Well program for cancer patients here in town and the Komen foundation is sponsoring the DIVA exercise program and nutritional counseling.
Whew, now if I can only get someone to eat right for me and exercise for me and I get to loose the weight! lol. Utopia!
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Gina,
Please share whatever you learn! We could use all the information we can get our minds around!
Thanks!
Tori
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Sagina,
Does that include a consult with a dietician? I have a BC/BS plan that offers a lot of stuff online but their site is so difficult to navigate I gave up. I have mentioned this when I actually get to talk to some one. Please share .....
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Gina ~ I second Tori's sentiment. BTW Tori I like your avitar!
Sewingnut ~ LOL! over the college tuition comment, I can so relate... what did your son study, mine has a marketing degree.
I've been doing weight watchers online and find it to be helpful. I did it years ago when you had to count calories and write everything down, weigh and measure, and hated it. Back in those days I only had 10 pounds of baby weight to lose... wish that was the case now
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kc165,
My son studied Exercise Science and is now in grad school for Physical Therapy. My other son is a network administrator for a national trucking company so I have both my computer and fitness covered, that is if they ever stop by the house. You know the saying "the shoemakers kids have no shoes" !!
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Will definitely share all the info!
I saw a dietitian at the cancer center for $45. My insurance wouldn't cover since I'm not diabetic or in renal failure (thank Goodness..).
Blue Cross also offers a program with our insurance for $29 a week paid extra to Blue Cross I can visit multiple gyms in town - we have a bunch and they all seemed to be part of this program. I don't know much about this program but I will dig up the email and share.
What the dietitian did share with me can upset some people, but at this time in my life with my daughter off to college I can go extreme and not worry about feeding a family. She told me the benefits of being vegan to reduce the risk of cancer. I'm not a scientist or even close, but it had something specifically to do with how eating animals helps cells grow, hence if you have cancer growing you can accelerate it. With a plant based diet you can actually hinder the growth of cancer (not stop it or cure it just slow it way down). My blood pressure went down very quickly, my heart rate was better, I don't have reflux at all anymore, no more stomach aches (I used to have to run to the bathroom after restaurants) and I don't have that bloated heavy feeling anymore.
She recommended I start with eliminated red meat all together, then work from there, but cancer scared me so much (on top of needing to loose a whole person) I went cold turkey (lol) off of animals and animal products. I'm getting really creative with food too. I'm pleasantly surprised.
Radiation fatigued did do a number on me the last two weeks and I did not stay on the vegan diet, I really just didn't care about anything I was so tired....but I'm back now. Had originally started the beginning of March.
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Just getting back from my morning walk..always a great way to start my day...
Hope everyone is doing well and is a little bit "lighter" each day!
Tori
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I'm "lighter" today. Didn't put in the weighted foob =;0)
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Sewingnut ~ LOL over the shoemaker's children have no shoes! My husband is a graphic designer and insisted that when my oldest was born he would design the birth announcements... well he is 24 and I'm still waiting! haha
Gina ~ Thanks for the info. I had a hysterectomy a couple of months ago and am now in menopause. I've been reading that this puts one at higher risk for heart disiease and so I am really wanting to lose my weight and watch my fat and cholesterol intake. I have cut down my red meat intake drastically and eat a lot of chicken and ground turkey. I am trying to do fish too, but I'm just not a fan and hate to cook it.
Tori ~ Walking in the morning is great and it is amazing how much energy it gives for the rest of the day!
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HI kcl65~ I used to love eating fish. I'm not much of a cook but I figured out fish. Make a foil pouch - lay the fish on the large piece of foil, a little olive oil, season how ever you like, I used to add onion, lemon, cilantro to mine, and would make another pouch for my daughter with just salt and pepper, close the pouch kind of loose, put them on a cookie tray, in the oven for about 20 minutes. The steam cooks the fish perfectly and everyone gets it seasoned the way they like.
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Ha ha, on the weighted foob. Doesn't it feel like a ton? I actually put mine on the scale and it didn't even register but it feels heavy.
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Hi. I thought I would introduce myself. My name is Jamie and I am 30 years old. Had my BMX on May 26th and start chemo on Tuesday. I also need to lose a person.
Sagina- that is really interesting. My son is a veggie by choice. He is 12 and has ate this way for about a year and a half. He came home one day and said I dont want to eat meat. So we found alternatives even tho we thought it was a phase at the time. Come to find out, he gained 20lbs in two weeks (he had issues with being underweight, didnt know why cause he ate like a horse, so he was weighed weekly) because his body was not processing meat correctly which was causing all of his problems. A year of going to the dr and being weighed and tested for everything and it was the meat. He still eats other things with biproducts in it, he just doesnt eat the actual meat. He still loves marshmellows and jello. He will also eat eggs and drink milk because it does not kill the animals. I have thought about trying it but I am so confused about what is vegan and what is not. What has biproducts and what doesnt. But I am sure I could go without the actual meat because chicken is really the only meat that I like. Any tips?
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Jamie, cancer was finally my motivator to do something about my weight - finally. I'm 5'7" and for the first time in my life I am going to admit how much I weigh - 265....embarrassingly....
Vegan is a diet void of all animal products and in Texas we are few and far between! lol. So I've started to drink unsweet almond milk (with calcium and vitamin d), and gave up cheese my absolute favorite food. After a couple of weeks, my taste buds started changing and I craved veggies more, fruit less, and sugar - not at all. I got the following email today, it explains the meat connection and the plant based diet so much better than I could. I'm going to buy that book tomorrow.
5. Reduce consumption of animal protein.
Cooked meat (not just red meat, poultry as well) is known to contain breast carcinogens such as PhiP.9-11 Consuming more protein and especially dairy products raises blood levels of IGF-1, and elevated IGF-1 levels have been associated with increased in breast cancer risk in many studies.13-21 Higher fish consumption in women has also been linked to higher rates of breast cancer.12 Agricultural and industrial carcinogens, such as dioxins, accumulate in fatty tissues. Humans' primary mode of exposure to these dangerous chemicals is from meat, poultry, fish, and dairy fat.22
6. Eat lots of green vegetables, mushrooms, and onions.
Following a high-nutrient diet, as described in my book Eat to Live, protects against many chronic diseases, breast cancer included. Green vegetables and mushrooms are the most powerful anti-breast cancer foods. Take note that a vegetarian diet does not show protection against breast cancer as much as a diet rich in green vegetables, mushrooms, onions, berries, and seeds. It is the phytochemical nutrient density and diversity of the diet that offers the most dramatic protection against cancer, not merely the avoidance of meat or fat.23-27 Vegetables and fruits have been consistently associated with both reduced risk of breast cancer and improved survival of breast cancer patients.23,25,28-30 Cruciferous vegetables contain powerful anti-cancer compounds that halt the growth of breast cancer cells and promote excretion of estrogen.24,31,32 Mushrooms block tumor growth and have anti-estrogenic activity - regular consumption of mushrooms - as little as one mushroom per day - has been shown to decrease breast cancer risk by up to 60-70%.26,27,33 Organosulfur compounds in onions and garlic also prevent the development of cancers by detoxifying carcinogens, halting cancer cell growth, and preventing tumors from obtaining a blood supply.34
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I saw a nutritionist for 6 months due to high blood pressure, so it was free at the hospital. I saw her every week. Every week I was up 5, down 8, up 3, up 6, down 4, up 8....you get the idea. It blew her away. She had never seen anything like it. I am doomed!!!!!
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Barb-isn't it great being special? As in they have never seen anything like it? Grrrrrrrrrrrr Must be some other ways to be special.
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Barbe: Have they checked your adrenals and thyroid to make sure that there isn't something going on causing this?
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I'm considering going vegetarian too because of the cancer. I just always have low protein levels, so I worry about that. Thinking about joining weight watchers again (online probably only) as I had previously had success on that program.
Another post was talking about issues with weight loss and reconstruction surgery, so now I am worried about that too. Anyone have any experience with this yet?
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I'm pretty sure it's one (or two!) of the 16 prescription drugs I'm taking....sigh.
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I am in... I am going to bag up the stuff I do not need to eat out my cabinets NOW...
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I'm certain that I cannot do vegan. Low income + large family = too broke to manage it.
But I'm thining about joining First Place 4 health (Christian Weight Watchers) when I finish rads. Has anyone ever done WW where you don't count the points, but use a specified food list instead?
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I am given up redmeat and process food...
I need motivation to exercise...
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My cancer center has an exercise program for cancer patients. The purpose is to help get through treatment and minimize fatigue, so the exercise component is light compared to what I am used to. So my main focus has to be food for now and the minimal exercise to at least keep moving.
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sohardbnme~a friend on these boards told me to think of exercise as my next treatment plan, that's it required for me to get healthy, like chemo or rads. Thank kind of makes sense, and so simple. I bought my friends stride cycle, I'm going to attempt 5 whole minutes tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol. and that will probably do me in!
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Thanks for the support... Good idea, to look at it as apart of treatment...
As soon as I take tamoxifen I feel hungry... Anyone experience that...
I just took elliptical out of spare room and put it in my room... I just got on ABOUT 5 TIMES... 3 MIN EACH... I feel good... A slow start...A START NONETHELESS...
I am glad it is in my room with TV...
I stop eating red meat... (totally)
I am still trying to cut down on other food...
I NEED MOTIVATION TO EXERCISE... LOL
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Well you are ahead of me. I bought the stride cycle, haven't picked it up yet! lol. Let's motivate each other!!!!
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Gina - that is my plan! Exercise is the next in my regime of cancer treatments. I start rads tomorrow and I'm already planning my exercise schedule and eating plan to start full force after rads ends. I lost weight through chemo, but I've gained 5-7lbs back since I finished chemo almost 3 weeks ago. That has to GO...I cannot start piling back on weight. I have a LOT to lose. Gaining is not an option.
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The onco-physiatrist (the excercise medicine oncology guy) wants me to exercise at my aerobic threshold--that place where you feel like you are working, but not too hard. You can talk without a problem, etc. He said that this is the "magic" place because it helps you improve your cardiovascular fitness, making it easier (and thereby less fatiguing) to do everyday tasks. The goal is for the exercise to be energizing, but not fatiguing. It's such a different mindset for me, but he described it to me as my new training plan (I'm a former athlete) for this "event"--my cancer treatment. He did say that I could try a more "regular" workout and go harder and see how I feel, but suspects that it will tired me out too much. Another reminder of how much cancer is mess with my life! If anyone is interested, my doc has a podcast about it here.
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