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Melizzard
Melizzard Member Posts: 121
edited June 2014 in Complementary and Holistic Medicine and Treatment

Do you have questions?I have answers. I have been using and making this oil for a year and a half now. Totally believe in it. Am I disease-free? No. But I do feel that cannabis, and this oil, have both improved my quality of life AND my life span. Can I prove it? Again, no.

I want to inject a disclaimer here ... I am no longer making oil because I have found a source that mass produces (I actually didn't find him ... I taught him) from a huge outdoor grow, so he buys solvent in bulk, etc. I can't even buy a pound for the price he charges for the finished product. So I am not selling anything. I'm just a big fan and have a lot of experience with it. And I'm living with Stage IV breast cancer ... 3 years past my expiration date. When I see a good thing, I like to share it. :)

But I have seen miraculous things happen with it and believe in it enough to keep using it. As to hallucinations, yes they can happen if you take too much without building a tolerance. That's why all instructions tell you to specifically start with a dose no larger than 1/2 the size of a grain of rice. It takes a pound of pot bud to make this oil, y'all, and it only makes 60 grams. So, 16oz of pure bud extracts down to about 60gm of oil ... pretty damned potent.

As for Dronabinol, it is not THC ... it is synthetic THC. Not nearly the same, and otherwise known as Marinol. This works well for some, but across the board, I have seen the real deal work much better, especially for nausea and appetite. It is certainly not the oil, by any means and doesn't have nearly the therapeutic doses that you would be using with 1gm of pure cannabis oil each day.

The two types are not Sativa and Indigo ... it's Indica. And trust me when I say there are definitely indica strains that will lift your mood. The oil is distinctly anxiety relieving! And pain relieving! And insomnia relieving! Combine all that, and if it also helps kill my cancer, I'm down!

As for strains used to make it, be sure you are indeed getting an indica strain. AK-47 is not one. Some White Rhino is sativa and some phenotypes are indica. So, I would avoid those. I would lean more toward anything that is indica-dominant and the more CBD content, the better.

SarahSweety, you should be up to full dose of 1gm per day by now. It should only take a few weeks to get there and the sooner you ramp up, the better your results will be. There are many different ways to get a full gram in you each day. My favorite trick is to take 1/2 gram at bedtime and then just sleep thru. The next day, I can spread out 1/2 gram throughout the day and still be able to function. I have found that it's so helpful to get a digital postal scale that measures as small as 1/100th gram (they cost about $40) and some empty veggie caps. That way, you can dial that dose in perfectly and know that you are getting at least 1gm per day.

The oil IS very expensive. Remember, you have to pay someone for a pound of bud. I have some elite grower friends when I live and even with my cancer-patient deals, I can't even touch a pound of bud for less sthan $3k. Then there's the solvent to process with, and the risk involved (explosion and legalities), and the time. So yup, the going rate is about $1k per oz. Still one helluva lot cheaper than chemo and will make you feel a whole lot better! LOL And yes, it is a weed, but since it's federally illegal, and most of us don't want jail time, we grow indoors. That requires very expensive toys, ladies. And about $500 more a month in electric bills. Just so you understand.

I will say that, for symptom management, like anorexia and nausea, weed is still way better. The oil does take a couple of hours to take effect, but the weed takes minutes. And I would never recommend smoking it, but vaporizers ROCK! I have owned five different kinds, of all different price ranges, so I can also give opinions on those. :)

Be aware that the tinctures and hash oils are NOT the same as this. This is a nasty, dark green concoction that is about the consistency of axle grease. Tastes vile too, which is another really good reason for those capsules! LOL

It is, indeed, the buds you want to use to make cancer oil. You can make oil for just about any other condition (pain, high blood pressure, MS, HepC, diabetes) from leaves, but not for cancer. And we have had our oil tested over and over again. We have tested different extraction processes as well as different parts of the plant and it blew my personal theories all to hell. Bud, baby ... all the way.

One last thing ... there have been lots of great links posted here, but I haven't seen this one. This is an exhaustive list of all cannabis/cannabinoid research and it's broken down by ailment. VERY cool tool to keep bookmarked. And have you heard of the endocannabinoid system and how it functions? This plant was made for us. This list was posted on a message board, so just scroll down a couple of entries and it will start.

https://www.greenpassion.org/index.php?/topic/26942-grannys-mmj-list-january-2011/

If any of you have any questions, or wish to discuss this more fully, feel free PM me.

xxoo

Melissa

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  • geewhiz
    geewhiz Member Posts: 1,439
    edited June 2011

    Thanks for the great info. The more I read about it, the more I am impressed. I have never done drugs, etc. But I am willing to try just about anything to make sure I am still around for my family.

    I did read that Indica was the way to go, but I am surprised to hear that white rhino is sometimes sativa. Are white rhino and medicine man the same thing? I was researching the amounts of cannibinoids to tch....do you have an opinion on the ratios?

    I saw Montel Williams opened a high end (lol) shop in California for medicinal marijuana....he has greatly benefitted from it.

    I saw the vaporizers, is that better to start with? Or is the hemp oil?

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  • Melizzard
    Melizzard Member Posts: 121
    edited June 2011

    I saw the vaporizers, is that better to start with? Or is the hemp oil?

    That depends on what you need it for.  If you're hoping for curative properties, the oil is the way to go.  If you're looking for quick symptom relief, vaporizing.  I use both.  :)

    xxoo

    Melissa

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  • Yazmin
    Yazmin Member Posts: 840
    edited June 2011

    Melissa:

    Now I see your post. Thank you, indeed, you are knowledgeable. Can the oil also be purchased online, and if so, do  you have any dependable site to recommend? I am interested in knowing more about both the oil and the vaporizers.

    Thanks again. 

    PS: I have the same question about the oil I had about the vaporizers: Is it safe to go through airports with hemp oil "stashed away" in your suitcase? (knowing that no liquids are allowed in hand luggage). 

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  • Melizzard
    Melizzard Member Posts: 121
    edited June 2011

    I want to be certain you know what we're talking about here. This is oil made from the flowers of the marijuana plant. It is federally illegal. So no, it's not safe to take in airports. And, for the same reason, it's not available over the Internet either.



    It's not hard to make your own and it can be obtained from others who have the access to the plant material and the knowledge to make it. Email me at melizzard@me and we can discuss further. :)



    Xxoo

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  • Yazmin
    Yazmin Member Posts: 840
    edited June 2011

    Thanks, Melissa. Yes, you are right: I have absolutely NO IDEA what I am talking about, here. Smile

    Complete MMJ/drugs ignorant. Never used them, never talked to anybody about them. But this is such an interesting topic!. OK, I am emailing you shortly.

     

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  • vespersparrow
    vespersparrow Member Posts: 62
    edited June 2011

    Hi Melissa, thanks for starting this thread. I've heard some fantastic stuff about cannabinols and cancer and I'm interested too. However, I'm really curious to know if you were you using the MMJ when the abdominal metastases appeared?, and if not do you think it has made any difference in your healing this time around?

    Also, do you know of any good resources to help newbies learn how to grow a plant for their own medicinal use?  Many thanks,

    Rikki

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  • Melizzard
    Melizzard Member Posts: 121
    edited June 2011

    No, I was not yet using MMJ when the mets occurred, but I have been using it for the past 2 years and they have progressed.  It hasn't "stopped" them, but I believe it certainly has slowed them.  It has also vastly improved my quality of life! 

    For learning to grow, there are many good growing forums on the internet.  I would recommend joining one and getting involved there.  I like www.thcfarmer.com  I have met some wonderful growers on that site ... at least the Colorado folks are so generous and cool.  There is also www.greenpassion.org   You could read and learn forever on either one of those sites!  :)

    xxoo

    Melissa

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  • vespersparrow
    vespersparrow Member Posts: 62
    edited June 2011

    Thank you, those websites are indeed wonderful!   I'm sorry to hear the MMJ didn't stop your progression, but thanks for being honest.  I have read so many other glowing claims and wonder if they are all true.

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  • sarahlou1967
    sarahlou1967 Member Posts: 153
    edited June 2011

    Hi Melissa,

    Been meaning to catch up with you as you seem to be the only one on here who is actively trying out the MMJ, I am also growing and we have produced our first batch of cannabis oil, also growing our next batch which is indica strain definately this time so hopefully will be able to pack a punch with the next strain although the first batch was pretty strong.

    So I noticed that you said it may of slowed down your mets, I also have mets to my lungs dx at same time as primary earlier on this year, jumped on the oil straight away (being an ex art student have lots of pot smoking friends and growers) so far chemo not so bad, so maybe its the oil helping, just been for my CT scan to see whether or not the chemo is working, which god willing IT IS hopefully. In what way does the oil help you? I'm guessing you dont do chemo anymore? are you on herceptin? how have you stablised those mets do you think the oil has helped? Sorry so many questions, sending lots of healing vibes your way.

    Do you think a vapouriser would help me? especially as I have lung mets? 

    Love Sarah xxxxx 

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  • Melizzard
    Melizzard Member Posts: 121
    edited June 2011

    Are you decarbing your weed before you put it in solvent? And what kind of solvent are you using?



    My chemo is really easy right now too ... Maybe it IS the oil. ;). Currently I am only using the oil at bedtime cuz dammit the summers are way short in the Rocky mountains and I'm gonna enjoy my summer for the first time in 3 years cuz I finally feel good!!! So it definitely helps me sleep. When I use it during the day, it helps with anxiety and fear. I don't have pain issues, so not sure if it would help that, though I hear it's the best pain med on the planet and WAY better for your body than narcotics. I am not on perception cuz I am not her2 positive. I get tumor markers back next week for the first time in the past 6, so we'll see what they say. But I'm having, literally, a Lazarus-type experience as I was hospitalized for 2 weeks in April and nearly put in hospice. It truly is a miracle how my inoperable belly mets have backed off overnight and opened up my blocked bowels and I'm feeling brand new these days. In fact just getting ready to leave for a horse camping trip. Haven't been able to do that for 3 years, so I'm so excited!



    According to Rick Simpson, vaporized oil is very healing for lung mets, but I've been too chicken to try to vape it. Lol. I do vaporize weed, though, to give me appetite, belly spasm relief, and, I ain't gonna lie, enjoyment. ;)



    Xxoo

    Melissa

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  • althea
    althea Member Posts: 1,595
    edited June 2011

    Melissa, I hope you have a really great camping trip and I'm so glad that you're feeling so good right now.  I've watched the Rick Simpson film twice and I found it very compelling.  He called it hemp oil as I recall.  Is that what you're using?  I vaguely recall that cannabis and hemp are not the same? 

    Back when I was going through treatments, this forum was much smaller and I don't think we even had an alternative section until I was done with chemo/surgery/rads.  I'm still here mainly because I felt like crap literally for years after my treatments and I just won't settle for that.  I'm finally feeling good again, and in hindsight, I can feel grateful for the slow road because I've learned so much along the way.  I have a squeaky clean lifestyle these days and I hope to never have face a recurrence.  If I ever do, however, I remember thinking during the Rick Simpson film that I would probably opt for his solution and never do chemo again.  I'm glad to kinda sorta meet someone in real time who's using the therapy and benefitting from it.  ...same goes for you too sarahsweety.  

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  • sarahlou1967
    sarahlou1967 Member Posts: 153
    edited June 2011

    Hi Melissa,

    My brother and boyfriend have been sorting out the making of the oil, I'm not very good at anything scientific with solvents, heat, etc is just not up my street so the boys have done it for me. I just stick to the gardening side they can make the stuff. They both followed rick simpsons instructions on the website exactly. I think the next bunch will be stronger or more indica as we used indica plants this time, last time was donation based (really blew me away with the generosity) which was so so kind of everyone who did donate, although obviously we were not sure sure that all the MJ was indica some of it might have been sativa but at least we tried, and the next batch will be better.

    Looking into vapourisers think it might help the mets on my lungs, so will try and get a good vapouriser. Do you have to spend a fortune to get a good one or are the cheaper vapourisers just as good?

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  • Melizzard
    Melizzard Member Posts: 121
    edited July 2011

    Sarahsweety, vaporizers don't come cheap. The cheapest one I have was $100 and it's my portable one. It does have a lifetime warranty. The others I have cost 2-3 times that. But I would highly recommend you get one cuz they're awesome! It's kind if the difference between a hillbilly high and a Beverly Hills high ...;)



    Xxoo

    Melissa

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  • sarahlou1967
    sarahlou1967 Member Posts: 153
    edited July 2011

    Melizzard, 

    Hi been a while since I last posted on this thread, I've just been on the website you posted for the seedbank and looking on there not sure which type to purchase, obviously its gotta be indica and female but what name strain should I use?? the strain at we are using at the moment is kush cosh or something like that.

    To bring you up to date I am still taking the oil and have just grown 6 new plants and got clones from them so not doing so bad with the plants also have some that are nearly ready have nice buds coming on them so hopefully this will be potent and kick cancers ass, I am nearly done with my first chemo's round 6 in 2 weeks time will be the last before my surgery in september (mx with lymph node clearance) I've got 6 weeks chemo free before surgery and will be interesting to see if taking the oil during that period will have any effect on the lung mets, hopefully it will blast them all to kingdom come. Still got too buy a vapourizer no money at the moment but will get it in the next couple of months. 

    Hope all is well with you sending you lots of healing vibes

    Love and light to all 

    Sarah Sweetyxxxx 

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  • Melizzard
    Melizzard Member Posts: 121
    edited July 2011

    Well, you would definitely want to find the strain that has a decent amount of THC and the highest amount of CBD you can find.  If you live in a legal state, there may well be cannabis testing labs where you are.  There are here in Colorado.  You can send samples of what you're growing to them and they can tell you what your percentage of THC:CBD is, etc.  For cancer, I wouldn't take any chances.  I would find the strain with the very best numbers.  Many seed banks will advertise their numbers with the seeds.

    xxoo

    Melissa

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  • 3littlegirls
    3littlegirls Member Posts: 853
    edited January 2012

    I have been hearing about this alot now.  I am wondering how you ladies that are trying it have found it.  I have 3 kids I need to race all over the city. Just wondering can you drive and function fine on it?  Any one have shrinkage on it?

    thanks 

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  • MJLToday
    MJLToday Member Posts: 2,068
    edited February 2012

    Bump for more info?

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  • outdoorlife
    outdoorlife Member Posts: 1
    edited May 2012

    Melissa,

    My sister-in-law has been diagnosed with stage 3 cancer and we have been struggling to find Indica oil. Can you lead me in a certain direction on this?

    Thanks!

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