February 2011 chemo pals
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Hi ladies,
Sorry to hear some sisters are still struggling so much after the chemo. I haven't been posting much because I really can't complain, but do want to let you know that I read all your updates and am thinking of you and counting down with you.
Tomorrow will be 3 weeks since my last chemo, and my energy is back although I can't say the same for my hair, eyelashes or eyebrows.
I also can't complain much about what people are saying, mostly because by now, rarely anyone calls anymore to inquire about me..(the novelty has worn off I guess), one of my friends still does regularly - but being a BC survivor herself she knows it all... my sister is recovering from breast reconstruction surgery so it is me supporting and calling her, coworkers never did call or acknowledge my diagnosis (and I work from home anyway) so its pretty boring and nothing to report here...
Wishing you all the very best, fast recovery and good energy...
Emily, did you end up going to Nashville at all?
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Sorry Emily..I'm in about the same boat as you. I'm currently doing radiation and dealing with lymphedema. It's the pits. But I too, am very glad chemo is behind me.
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Radiation simulation today. And the first mammo. since this all began.
I'm a nervous wreck! I don't know why the rads part of treatment is bothering me so much. I'm having this intense emotional reaction to it. I feel violated or something...
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mks..I had to cancel my trip to Nashville...I figured there was no point going since my walking is so poor and my energy isn't great. Maybe another time when I know I'll really enjoy it.
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pejkug - I think TonLee on triple pos and TCH felt the same way. After a little while I think she was better with it.
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Emily - sorry you had to cancel. I understand. I had 3 trips scheduled this year and had to cancel ALL of them - so unfair!
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Just saying hello, enjoyed reading everyone's thoughts on post-chemo and so forth. The "fever" broke today, Wednesday, yet still feel weary and hurty. One day I'll think about my "good" days and wonder how in the world I put up with it. I have already begun thinking about my surgery sometime in July, rads in August. Am trying to fit in a housekeeper visit to do something with my mess. Figured I'd do it for after surgery, but wanting her now. Still need to make it down to the gazebo, I think I will today, gotta keep up with exercise. Anybody else having surgery in July? Only thing about rads I worry about it actually getting there on a daily basis. Definitely am going to ask my cancer surgeon if I can double up and do it in three weeks. MamaV and Emily, it seems that once cancer comes into the picture, THAT becomes your life event for however many months, it was hard for me to deal with spring and summer being lost to treatment, but I got used to it, of course. Bye bye for now! GG
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dogeyed, I will be going for a lumpectomy on July 8. Had to get an EKG (I'm over 50) and have blood work in preparation for it. It is an outpatient surgery. I am not really expecting it to be too bad.
We haven't planned any summer vacation as of yet this year due to my dx. I am finding that it's best for me to keep things simple by dealing with life a week at a time, for the time being. The weeks are so full of things to do that I get overwhelmed if I try to take on more. Once I get a bunch of activities taken care of one week, I can see more clearly what's coming up for the next week.
I am hoping there will be a window of opportunity between surgery and the start of rads to get away for at least a couple of days with DH and DS so the summer isn't a complete wash-out.
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dogeyed and divine - I will be having surgery to replace my left TE sometime in July as well - will find out the date next week. Dogeyed, on the housekeeper front - there is a program called "Cleaning for a Cause" that does free housekeeping for patients in need of it. I don't know if any participating people are near where you live. I haven't used the service but I am aware of it.
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Pejkug3 I don't know why either but Rads certainly provokes a response. I thought I was fine and then I had nightmares all night last night before have the first treatment today. I guess I was actually a little freaked out about what they are doing. I think it will settle down once we are in a routine...
I hope everyone is feeling a little better. I know that many people are facing surgery soon, many of us are in Rads now and some are still doing chemo...hang in there-it's such a long road!
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Divine....I found the lumpectomy was so much easier than I expected..I didn't even have pain meds once I was home ( day surgery too) I was home in time for lunch actually. The allergic reaction I have to the tape was another story.
For me Rads has not bothered me at all...chemo disturbed me far worse....aside from the nuisance of going every day rads has been pretty easy...and over in 15 minutes.I have figured out what to take for the pain in my back from lying on the hard table and done arm stretches to lessen the discomfort from having my arms above my head for that long.
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I thought my bilateral mastectomy was very easy compared to an injury I had in 2007 (I was a pedestrian in a crosswalk hit by a car who ran a red light). I had a bad bone break in my arm- that pain was so much worse than the mastectomy. I worried alot before having the BMX- but was so relieved. I took 1 narcotic pain pill after getting home (mainly the bumps on the car ride coming home were a little uncomfortable- we live an hour from the hospital). Otherwise, I did fine w/ motrin and tylenol.
I will be having surgery 7/6 if my HGB is 10- the TE removed and implants placed. It was nice today not to have ANY doctor's appointments- since January I have had anywhere from 1-4 appointments a week r/t cancer- it's nice to get a little break. The every 3 week herceptin is much easier. (Although I had labs each week- and I wonder how my HGB is- I am so easily tired- but can work full time- but not much else!)
Hope yall are having a good week. Hope Dragonfly and others doing Rads are doing well- many positive thoughts to all for the chemo pals.
I hate this bloated feeling- I cannot get rid of the pounds at all yet- that's maddening to me!!! Anyone else having luck there or any advice (besides diuretics- can't get those at least not now).
Lisa
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Hi ladies. Wow this Taxol is really roughing me up. Almost had to go to emergency last night because of blocked bowels. Then the damn broke. I was in such agony! The bone pain (is it really in my bones?) has lasted way longer than last infusion. Will it be longer each time? I'm shedding like mad. I wish my hair would fall out all at once like it did with AC, but this seems to be dragging on. *sigh*
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Oh and I'd like to add my thoughts on "rainy day friends". Hmmm... Seems like since I did so well through first chemo (A/C), and rebounded pretty well from my surgery, I'm expected to have no problems at all with this round of Taxol. Friends who were right there from day one are now long gone. Family members are irritated when I ask for help.
I talked to my oncology nurse today and she acknowledged how overwhelming this is, physically and emotionally. Yeah, I am sick, exhausted and depressed, but have to put a big f*cking smiley face on it all so everyone else can cope.
You know what? I'm f*cking ANGRY!!! I'm supposed to go to a memorial service for my grandmother this weekend, but I will have to deal with my daughter's iffy behavior, and I don't feel like talking about cancer all weekend. But you know everyone else will. My mother will be really pissed off if everyone focusses on me and not her.
So grrrls, If I wasn't there for you when you were suffering through chemo, I am so very sorry. I'm feeling the pain now and wish someone would hold my hand. I know I'm being a baby and it will all be over soon. As a frind said to her son, "Buck up, buttercup!"
And so I shall.
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Oh Michelle - I am sorry first, that you have to have more chemo - what a PITA, and second, that you are having pain. The taxanes are a beast! How many do you have left? Aren't you doing 4? Today was my first Herceptin without chemo - felt weird to be hooked up to a bag receiving drugs through the port but still feeling happy! I have been very fortunate with the fair-weather friend thing. I don't have a lot of local friends because I have not lived here very long, but my long distance friends have been so supportive and so have my co-workers. I have not been at work since Nov. 1, 2010 - still on a leave of absence, but they are always happy to see me even though since I have been gone it has been harder on them. I know what you mean about having to pretend to be handling things well - a few of my friends have been having crises (crisises?) of their own and I have been trying to cheer them up - sometimes I am thinking geez, what is up with that? But to each his own in terms of inner fortitude! I am attending a family b-day party this weekend, out of town, and will be seeing all the in-laws for the first time since before diagnosis - I don't want to talk about BC all weekend either! Let's send each other positive thoughts for people to just shut-up about it, ok? Just know I will be thinking about you...
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Ugh I get tired of talking about it too. The endless questions...
Sometimes I worry that I put on too much of a brave face b/c everyone thinks I'm fine or wondergirl...
Sorry you're having pain Michelle. I think it is real bone pain. Did anyone mention Claritin to you? I feel as though I've had this discussion before and I don't want to repeat it if you've heard it already. I found that if I took the Claritin, it really helped with bone pain.
I hope you feel better soon!
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Hope you feel better soon Michelle, hope your weekend goes okay.
Special K, hope you have a nice weekend too.
I'm feeling ok, just still really exhausted. It's been almost one month since my last chemo, do you think thats normal I'm still exhausted? I know my 3 year old keeps me busy but I'm surprised I'm still so weak and tired. Surgery coming up soon so they'll check my bloodwork then. In the meantime I'm doing vitamins and walking.
Hope everyone is hanging in there
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Thanks Ruffolo - I am tired too - had a CBC today with my first Herceptin-only tx, my Hgb is up to just 10 after three weeks at 9, but RBC down and, for the first time, WBC was 2!!! I was shocked. I have managed to always stay in the normal range on WBC. I think it is normal to still be this tired. I did a cookbook for my MIL's b-day gift. Collected all of my MIL's recipes from all the SILs and grandchildren, who each put in recipes of their own (over a 100 total), typed them all, scanned them into a PDF file which was emailed to the printer to make the books, my DD and I did a cover, I wrote an intro, found pictures to put in, drove over to look at the proof. I am beat but the book is fabulous! I am worried about wearing myself out this weekend - I am going to have to pace myself - they are a wild group!
I think we all try to put on a brave face but it can be exhausting, and sometimes frustrating. It then becomes an expectation, everybody is so happy we are doing so well... If they only knew, right?
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I just typed a long reply to the above, but my computer crapped out just like me. Sorry. Thanks for the kind words. I am so f*cking exhausted.
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Michele. Isn't this a great place to come when NOBODY gets it! This is such a long treatment process and support tends to dwindle over time. I'm anxious to see who's left standing at the end.
I'm suffering through taxotere. I had 2 babies without taking a single pain med and I had to ask for a prescription to get through the chemo pain. The bone pain and random electrical shock type pain were unbearable. I spent the first 3 days curled up in a fetal position on the couch. It's horrible!!! It did get better with my second one, I remembered the claritan and had stronger meds. Third one is next week so we'll see. I am finding I have more energy than I had on AC once I emerge from the darkness. I'm right here with you. Virtual (hugs).
What a long year we are having ladies. I'm so sick and tired of being sick and tired! GRRR!
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I hope this will encourage all of you just finishing chemo or getting close. Tomorrow will be 6 weeks since my last chemo.( I have just finished round 9 of rads.) I had taxotere for my last 3 rounds of chemo. I have found recovery from round 3 has been very slow and I was beginning to feel such despair after several weeks had gone by and I still could hardly walk or eat. I could hardly get from room to room as my legs were so weak and really needed help but my primary helper...my mother ..fell and popped her artifical joint out and now could hardly walk herself. I told all my siblings and daughter to get over and help her these past few weeks...but oh how desperate and miserable I was trying to do anything on my own with little help. HOWEVER...this week I am starting to feel so much better and although legs and taste are only back about 80%, mentally I feel as though this misery is almost behind me. So, I understand how all of you are feeling...and hang in there a little longer as it will get better.
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I'll just add that if Claritin doesn't help with the pain, oxycodone worked really well for me ..my legs felt like they were in severe labour...the pain just rolled through my lower legs. Thankfully this only lasted about 5 days.
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I'm glad to hear you are feeling better, Emily. I just had my last TAC 6/13 and still have the weak lower legs and lots of numbness in my left hand. Those symptoms seem to increase on days 5-14 though, and it has only been 10 days. I'm looking forward to seeing how I feel six weeks out.
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Emily - So glad to hear you are finally doing better, you were probably wondering when it was going to happen - it has been a rough ride for you on Taxotere. On to better days, right?
Congrats to "Miss N" my chemo friend on your last tx. I will certainly miss seeing you, and your sweet devoted friend, on our Thursdays, but I am so happy that you are done with chemo. Take care of yourself, I wish you nothing but the best!
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Charlottesmama- hang in there! You'll get through it. I understand what you mean about having to put on the face so others can deal with it. I've had my husband cry on my shoulder about the possibility of being a widower - I try my best to get him to go talk to someone ELSE but he won't. I don't want to hear that stuff while I'm trying to fight this!!!
I do blame taxotere for most of my symptoms during chemo - I think it was the one that caused the muscle pain for me. I relied a lot on oxycodone - I was just careful to try to limit it to about a week because I didn't want to get dependent. I was worried during chemo after about round 3 that my taxotere numbness and symptoms were going to get much worse but they hit a plateau through the rest of my treatment.
Are you in upper state New York? I've never heard of the town - but it is a really interesting name. I visited the Adirondacks many years ago and just loved the area.
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Up from yesterday's steroid high ... I hate that we are all going through this. I hate that b/c I put on a wig and paint on a fake face to look as normal as possible that people think I'm doing great! I have that many of friends have faded just like many of yours - out of sight out of mind. Hurts. I hate that people at work are telling me to have a good afternoon when I leave for chemo - they actually forget I'm going to chemo????? Think I'm just taking an afternoon off? I'm very disappointed in a lot of people. I swear if I had the guts I'd go to work w/o my wig fake lashes/brows. They wouldn't say you look so good all the time. Ok great I'm glad that make you feel better! B/c the person i see in the mirror is a sickly skinny hairless girl! Not easy to look every day!
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MAMAV, ONLY TWO MORE TO GO!!
RUFFALO and others, yesterday the doc assistant asked me to continue taking my Vitamin D she gave me becuz I'm still very low, I had stopped for a while, and also to take B6, and some other concoction I'm less inclined to get. Anyhow, she said these would reduce my pains and exhaustion. I'm only to take the D once a week until I finish the bottle, which there's maybe 7 or 8 pills left in there, I think, so I'll also take the B with the D. So, I suppose you, even tho you take vits, and others with similar lingering trouble could try to increase foods with those in them, or when your regular family doc or the onc doc draw blood and see what your vits and mineral levels look like, they can suggest what to do.
I have to go to the grocery store today, I think I can do it. Store opens in two hours, so if I'm not well, husband said he would go. But he will be taking over everything entirely in July, including bills, so I feel like I should push this one more time (we shop every two weeks), and also clear out the bills. Legs hurt a lot today, probably from wandering all over that clinic for pre-chemo exams, gotta keep up wtih walking better. Until next time, love to all, GG
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I'm sad to hear so many of you are not getting the support you need outside of these forums. I think it's especially and overwhelmingly tough when you are caregiver or have dependents. I truly believe MOST of the people who are irritating you with seemingly uncaring behavior are just blissfully ignorant of how horrible this treatment is. They really have no perspective on it and thus they cannot truly understand the misery. The "look good, feel better" thing just doesn't work for me. I have no desire to make myself up to look good - i just dont want to look like an alien so I wear my wig and some eyebrow powder to work and that's it. I don't pretend to feel well when people ask, I tell them exactly how I feel - which is usually meh, or just ok with some pain (I'm two weeks out from taxol and legs still weak and tired and sore in the morning). Maybe I'm just very fortunate but peeps are always asking me how I'm doing - maybe it's cuz I do look like crap!
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Dogeyed - sorry to see you were up in the middle of the night too! Hate that! I can't wait to be done! 2 more weeks! God help me to make it through!
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Yes, MAMAV, I have from one to three mornings a week I wake up early, I don't like it at all, but last time was unusual, I had fallen asleep after dinner and didn't wake up until around 4 a.m.! So, I felt rested. In fact, I did pay my bills and go to the grocery store when it opened at 7 a.m. That made my feet swell and redden and hurt, but they're better today. But in general my side effects have come on even sooner and harder than last time, which they make me sad and afraid. I did ask husband to take over in two weeks for me, he was so kind to agree. EMILY, I am sorry you lost your support for a while there, but glad you are better, my oxycodone helps a lot too. My wish for all of us is that we have "our people" who understand.
I recall something else the doc assist is going to do for me, which relates to my red hands and feet. My fingertips are also a little numby and tingly, and she said for my last two chemos, she will have them extend the timing on them so that instead of being done in 1-1/2 hours, she'll make it last longer, and that will help prevent the numbness and tingling from lasting for a long time. I had no idea that them being that way would present some sort of lasting problem. She also said not everyone gets the redness, like I have that goes up my arms, but there's always a few like me.
Thank you, DOGBISKIT, for your encouragement. Very sweet of you to help us along with all this, and for the others who still check on us. The kindnesses that have been shown in this forum are something I wish for every human being on earth, particularly when they are in pain, loneliness, desperation... and then just for all time. GG
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