Survivors who have used only alternative treatments

In my mind "alternative" is potential txs that haven't passed rigorous testing yet (and possibly ever).  Theories people make based on their knowledge of the disease and symptoms.

Alternative seems like one of the entrepreneurs of BC tx.  While I wouldn't risk my health on using ONLY alternative, I certainly hope the field continues to grow, and the ideas for txs keep coming.  Wouldn't it be awesome if some little plant/food out there just BAM, turned cancer off?

I won't demean someone who chooses alternative instead of conventional for a couple reasons.  First, I really believe women should do what they think is right for their particular cancer.  Second, what if they're on to something?  Granted, cancer has no cure, but someday??  What if the answer is in the alternative field?  At some point, before the tests and statistics, all chemo was just a theory...a theory with money behind it. 

Finally, I gain nothing judging a woman for her choices.  She is willing to put her life on the line, HER LIFE, I don't think an anon. person on the internet will change her mind.

We all want to be right, to believe we made the best decisions with the information we had at the time.  Some of those decisions may turn out to be cutting edge right choices, and others, er, not so much.

I think a certain amount of fighting is healthy. If everyone always agreed without passion, we probably wouldn't have the cancer fighting agents we have today. Plus, in my experience, women fight. It's just how we're wired when in groups. I've never EVER seen it happen otherwise.

Having cancer doesn't make us less likely to bicker....lol, imo it makes it more so! I've never been so mean as I am on rads. (And I feel bad for hurting Luan's feelings. She's been nothing but sweet to me on this site. So again, Luan, I apologize.)

I really don't think that's true, Athena.  There is a huge group of alternative thinkers, and there's a forum for it.  Just because we stood up to a young Stage 3 patient about wanting to go all-holistic doesn't mean we are "pro-protocol".  I'm fully aware that in my case it could have gone either way, and I've integrated a ton of new thinking, as I'm sure many of us have, into my own treatment as a result.

Now, where am I screwing up?  If all my health issues are as a result of my being bad, then I guess, by the same token, and if logic dictates then we are all bad?  WE all have bc after all.  Oh and that full term baby she refers to, I lost at the ripe old age of 25.  I must have been born bad.

Patzee, you and your cronies need to rethink things.

Would somebody please post the names of other alternative/integrative breast cancer forums besides BCO?

I'm looking for a forum without trolls or bullies or generally mean people, a place where they don't eat popcorn while their fellow breast cancer patients suffer.

Thanks in advance.

Susan, we are in it!  Click on the blue link.  You will find years of forum on a host of alternative topics.  And remember, they only stay active when we post to them, so you could revive some intersting topics for sure.

Reported the post where Blue is called a bully for defamation.

I am posting this because anyone with an ounce of backbone lets the world know when they report a post.

True LtotheK

If it had been titled that way she might have gotten replies from those who who were Stage III and had gone all alternative. As things stand I worry about her because she has not been a part of this discussion for a while.

You are a survivor from the moment you are diagnosed, so we are all survivors.   Can't we have a disagreement without name calling and threats?  I don't see any problem with women who integrated traditional and alt approaches posting about how they recommend both.  That should not be a threat to anyone.  

 In my opinion patzee is going through some serious emotional stuff and while I've been criticized for psychoanalyzing her -- and i get that, on one level I really shouldn't -- it helps me understand her posts.  She has made a decision which is fine for her to make, but she is still unsettled and in a lot of pain and therefore is lashing out.  I think if she reaches peace with her decision, she will not be so strident.  I believe that is why she is so bent on convincing everyone else that her way is the only way.  If we can reach a point where we are all comfortable with our own way being our own way, things could really calm down here. 

I reported the above post because it said"bullying me on these boards can be dangerous" which is both defamation and threatening.

Patzee, I did not send you a nasty pm.  I could post my response if you like, but to tell you the truth, this is getting really old and your lies are catching up with you.

You initiated the pm's, 4 in total and I responded to 3 of them.  The last one I ignored. I have no problem posting my replies. 

I guess you never heard about Burns and Allen.  For someone who supposedly has a sense of humour, you're actions and words show different.

If your posts are getting reported, then there must be a problem with them.  I have not reported any of your posts.  BTW the pm you quoted is the second in the series.  The first one you sent me was threatening.

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This is interesting reading (my bold): 

About Histrionic Personality Disorder: 

Histrionic personality disorder, often abbreviated as HPD, is a type of personality disorder in which the affected individual displays an enduring pattern of attention-seeking and excessively dramatic behaviors beginning in early adulthood and present across a broad range of situations. Individuals with HPD are highly emotional, charming, energetic, manipulative, seductive, impulsive, erratic, and demanding.

Mental health professionals use the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (the DSM ) to diagnose mental disorders. The 2000 edition of this manual (the fourth edition text revision, also called the DSM-IV-TR ) classifies HPD as a personality disorder. More specifically, HPD is classified as a Cluster B (dramatic, emotional, or erratic) personality disorder. The personality disorders which comprise Cluster B include histrionic, antisocial, borderline, and narcissistic.

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Source:
http://www.minddisorders.com/Flu-Inv/Histrionic-personality-disorder.html

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People with this disorder are usually able to function at a high level and can be successful socially and at work.

Symptoms include:

• Acting or looking overly seductive
• Being easily influenced by other people
• Being overly concerned with their looks
• Being overly dramatic and emotional
• Being overly sensitive to criticism or disapproval
• Believing that relationships are more intimate than they actually are
• Blaming failure or disappointment on others
• Constantly seeking reassurance or approval
• Having a low tolerance for frustration or delayed gratification
• Needing to be the center of attention (self-centeredness)
• Quickly changing emotions, which may seem shallow to others

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Source: http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001531.htm

Jane:

Just a heads up.  About two weeks ago there was another urinating contest on the boards - they happen at least once a week.  Someone started a thread called "Abusive Posts".  That became so abusive it was deleted in its entirety.  What a hoot!

It's Friday, Mary.  Nothing more than that.  Oh, and a full moon.