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Hi all, my friend was just diagnosed Stage III. All of her friends from around the country want to support her but don't know the best ways. Can you tell me what are some of the things your friends and family did that helped you cope/made you laugh/strengthened you? Are there things you need day to day that we can send? Are there things that aren't good...for instance is sending food bad because you get so sick during chemo?
Any guidance or suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thank you and swift recovery and healthy days to you all.
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Hey there, firstly, don`t wish someone with cancer a `swift recovery`. Breast cancer is not cureable. Secondly, we don`t often get healthy days, either. Thirdly, search the section `Family & Friends` and you will find other threads discussing what you are asking, it will speed up the process for you.
Some may think my post is harsh, but it is meant to change your thinking a little bit.
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Hi cyndesign. If it can help, while I was on chemo, my friends brought me supper 3 days a week (on the chemo day and the 2 days that followed) and that really helped me. Not everyone gets sick on chemo. I didn't have nausea. I took my meds like the doctor ordered and I did ok. I could eat pretty much anything I wanted. I could function pretty well also on chemo but everyone is different. Maybe you will be suprised on how well your friend will be on chemo. I know I was...... Good luck to your friend. She is lucky to have you to take care of her. ((hugs))
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I'm really sorry, obviously I didn't mean to offend. I see your point, however I still wish swift recovery from any surgeries and as many healthy days as possible. Thank you for the guidence to the other forums.
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Babs37,
Thank you so much for the great response, it is VERY helpful. We are really hoping she is able to eat, she is very slight to begin with so nourishment is top priority. We are all at such a loss, and want her to feel supported and helped but not smothered and annoyed.
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I had two things that meant & touched me more than anything else I got. My family sent me a goody box full of "positve momento's", in the box was a journal for me to write in but they had already taken turns in it writing to me about how much they loved me and how they were going to be with me during this time. I also was sent a throw/quilt that was made just for me by my other side of the my family. Every time a knot was tied in making the quilt a prayer was said just for me. Food is a hard one due to how she might feel during tx. I found a book "There's no place like hope", and bought it for myself right after dx. its a great book and I've read it several times. Your friend will just love that you thought of her during this time, I hope this helps.
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Hi Cyndesign; first of all, it's great that you are taking the time for some guidance from women who've been there. A couple of things come to mind right away: 1.) Bag the funeral face. no one wants someone looking atbthem like there about to kick. It's really freaking irritating and hopefully not true. 2.) Don't treat her like a child. She has cancer, her IQ didn't drop with her diagnosis 3.) She knows what she needs, let her be the guide. Don't force things on her that you think will be good for her. 4.) In that same vein, let her make the agenda. Don't do things for her that will make you feel better but will do her no good and 4.) If she needs to talk about her fear of death and dying, do not shut her down. Do not patronize and tell her she's being negative and that a good attitude is all she needs. That's hooey and she knows it. Just listen.
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So great to take the time to do this for your friend... That's awesome.
No bc is not "curable" but the odds are in her favor that she will never see the disease again. I call that a cure lol but others will argue with me. My mom is 22 years out..To me she was cured or whatever-Not important what's important is that there is a strong possiblity that she will be ok!
Also, not everyone gets sick. I didn't...
One thing that helped me was my friend asked me "What can I do to help you feel better?"
I wanted survivor stories. She went out and got them for me. Let her kind of guide you on what she needs.
I will say that the whole be strong-positive attitude crap drove me nuts but that's me:)
Also, meals...When you now have to add chemo and tons of doc appts to the schedule meals are so aweseome!
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Jennyboog,
Those are wonderful ideas and perfect for all of us that are not nearby. Thank you so much for sharing and I'm off to pick up that book on Amazon...one for her and one for me!
Little Tower,
What great straight forward advice, I fully appreciate it! Someone suggested a private Facebook page for her where we can all post encouragement and keep up to date on her journey, I will share this info with all before we begin, so that we remain in the right mindset. -
Pure,
Thank you so much! We are going to do our best to let her guide us, we are hoping that when she does need something in particular she will feel comfortable enough to say it. Asking for help is not something that comes easy for her...she is a doer!
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Hi Cyndesign, Something my friends and family did for me was to give me a surprise hat and scarf party when I started chemo. SharonH
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That's terrific, Sharon! I don't know that I ever would have thought of that. And we even have quite a few crafty people in the group that could make some she'd love.
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cyndesign, what a great friend you are; already you are doing something helpful for your friend who was diagnosed. i think it is important to remember that having cancer and starting treatment is a very long process9lifelong) in the beginning; people do step up and help; they want to be there for you when the shock of diagnosis happens. but, then often times people get back into their own lives....etc. what helped me the most were the friends who there in the long run...sending cards....bringing me a little food....just calling and stopping over if i needed them too. i didn't want to be treated like "a sick" person, yet...i just wanted my friends to acknowledge i was in treatment for cancer. i also appreciated people who tried to understand my cancer; most people think cancer is cancer.....ie....treatment is totally different for people with stage 1 cancer and stage III.
for those of us diagnosed with cancer; it is a lifetime event. it is often in the back of our minds; it becomes a part of us. friends who really "get that" are really great to have. that doesn't mean you are always talking about cancer; but they do understand the "fight" tell your friend there are lots of us out there doing very very well....after 5 years.....9 years.....11 years....20 years. you can be scared....have bad days...but you just do one day at tme and keep on* best wishes to you and your friend*
diana
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a couple of thoughts....
1. I would never ask anyone to do something for me....but I was so glad I said yes to the dinners sent to my home....I worked all thru treatment and there were some nights I just didn't have the energy and it was such a blessing not to cook.
2. My family put together a chemo bag.....I had nine chemo sessions. In the bag there were 9 little gifts that I could open each time I had chemo....they weren't expensive but fun....also in the bag was a book to read....headset and music....a scarf. The bag itself was awesome.
I now do this for anyone that I meet....it was great.
3. My brother took my husband away for a "boys trip"....they shot off for a long weekend....I was so glad because my husband went to every appt....bla bla bla.....and I was glad he was able to get a break from all of it.
4. Prayers......I was so grateful for people having a mass for me....or had nuns in some south american mountains praying for me....
5. And stories....like PURE....I needed other stage 3 stories.....(not I and II). I gravitated to anyone that was doing well.
Hope this helps.
Jacqueline
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What a great group of supporters she has! I just saw this thread, and it has some great suggestions too:
http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/91/topic/770225?page=1#idx_2
And if I might add, support is especially wonderful when surgery and treatment is over. And try to avoid overwhelming her with pink, lots of ladies here end up hating the color. Case in point, my mother, God Bless her soul, she bought me a pink jacket, pink sneakers, pink cooler to take to treatment, pink fleecy blanket, pink hat, all with the BC ribbon no less! I loved the gestures, but there's really nothing Barbie doll-ish about it. Give her her favorite color!
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Treatment isn't really totally different between the stages. Your friend may or may not get chemo and/or rads. She may or may not have a mastectomy. Strangely enough, the Stage 0 gals get more mastectomies than the Stage III girls! The Stage IV ladies can often say they are NED (no evidence of disease) though they are constantly on chemo. So really, there are only 3 variants in treatment your friend will have to deal with; surgery, chemo, rads. She may get all, she may get one or two. That is the variance.
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cyndesign- Bless you and your friends for rallying around your friend. I'm sure you will all be sensitive and caring and "feel" your way. I was one of the fortunate ones who actually weathered my surgery, chemo and radiation quite well. The greatest gifts for me were when my friends stepped in and took care of my family. I have a 12 YO and husband. Even if I didn't feel like eating lots, my husband and kid still did! My not having to cook or shop or plan meals a few days a week allowed me to just rest...which is what I needed most. I will never forget the mom's of my son's friends for their generosity with playdates and sleepovers. Keeping my kid happy and not worried about his mom with cancer was the greatest gift. Of course all my friends would ask "what can we do"? I am not the kind of person to actually ask for things. Some ladies have found a more organized sign up sheet aproach works well: a list with things like shopping, laundry, housecleaning, walking dog etc....Then friends can sign up for a date and time and your friend can know in advance that it is taken care of. I could never answer the open-ended big question of "can I do something"? Of course ask your friend if this would be okay. Most of all remember to be friends just like you were before her cancer, laugh at stupid stuff together, she needs to remember that her life has not changed in the important, friendship area. No one wants to be a "sick" patient.
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Here are things that my friends and community did for me that were wonderful....play dates for my then 2nd grader, meals the day of surgery and for a week after....meals starting the day of chemo and the following week.....I struggled with nausea but I told people what I could eat and what I couldn't.....other helpful things...running errands, grocery shopping, helping with chores in the house, cards, emails or other expressions of I'm thinking of you....don't wait for friend to ask, but offer specific help, (not say call me and not let know what I can do), remember the other family members...they too are impacted by the diagnosis.....there are several websites that you can sign up to coordinate meals.....if you do meals, give your friend a list of whose cooking what meal when!!!...at one of my schools, my co-workers knit me several hats...even though I didn't wear some of them, the gesture was very touching and I did wear a few to work....when your friend is feeling good, girl time, going out or whatever you did before....
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I think the neatest thing I've heard so far is to take the husband (and kids?) away! Takes the pressure off your friend to have to be 'on' and keeping a stiff upper lip.
Let her cry if she wants, she'll be scared and may not want to show it to her husband and family.
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For out of town friends and family, how about gift certicates to take-out or dine-in places? A card with one of thos in it would be a wonderful reminder that someone is thinking of you!
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Hi Cyndesign,
Some of my friends brought meals but some gave me gift cards for local restaurants. That was really nice because even if I didn't feel like eating, I could send my husband with the gift card to pick up something he and the kids wanted. I also had a friend who came and cleaned my house for me after surgery (the dusting and vacuuming). I just sat on the couch and rested. It was great.
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Hi Cyndesign-
1. Meals-like some others said. I also had them the day of chemo and then the 2 days following. I fought help at first but was so glad when I got it. We set a cooler up on the porch and told people to put the food in there-that way I didn't have to worry about answering the door if I didn't want to.
2. Some uplifting books to read about stage III people. I was desperate for those stories. Now I am one of them!
3. If she has kids ask her what she needs you to do for them. She may or may not want her kids with her. Maybe she needs rides for them? When I was first diagnosed one of my friends took my 3 girls so I could call family members to tell them without the kids being around. Mine were 4, 6 and 8 when I was diagnosed.
4. I also wanted to explain bc to my kids without scaring them too much. I had trouble finding a book that did that so I ended up writing one for children-see my signature line. But you could also do a search online for others.
5. Make sure you stay in contact with her and talk to her about normal stuff-not just cancer. She is already thinking about cancer pretty much all the time and is terrified she will die. Talk about everyday stupid stuff that will make her feel normal.
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If your friend has a cell phone-little texts every so often was and still is nice for me. My best friend lives an hour away, she checked on me evryday by text whcih was great. I didnt usually want to talk on the phone, especially when I felt yuck from chemo or exhausted. It just reminded me people were thinking of me. Sometimes, even if you have a dh, children etc, treatment can seem lonely some days. I also loved and still do love getting cards in the mail
best wishes to your friend. By the sounds of it I'm sure you'll be doing all the right things for her
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One thing that annoyed me when I was going through treatment was people who said "if there is anything I can do..." and then did nothing. Find something you can do which you think will be helpful, and do it. Some nice things people did for me was bringing stuff/books for the kids, meals, and sending emails.
When I was going through the diagnostic stage I had one great friend who sent me long silly emails every day describing her day! She just wanted me to have a few minutes where I was thinking of something else. And cards are always nice from people living far away. Your world gets pretty small near the end of Chemo, it was nice to know that people were still thinking of me.
Remember that treatment will be a long haul. Don't disappear on her. With surgery, Chemo and Rads you are looking at many months. Also remember she may not always feel up to talking, often I just couldn't really cope with talking to people. But it was still nice to get phone messages, so don't take it personally if she doesn't answer.
One last thing is cleaning! I wish someone had paid for a cleaning lady for us for the duration. I would have loved that! If you could have a collection to pay for some maid service visits she would probably really appreciate it more than flowers or something like that.
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About housecleaning, there is actually a non profit that arranges for local people to clean for ladies undergoing chemo (I believe for 6 months). I think it is called Cleaning for a Reason. Another thing I sort of wish I had done was a site called Caring Bridge (I believe). It allows patients to sort of blog and update their medical treatments and things. Then they can allow family and friends access. I got really tired of repeating all the medical details again, and again. I would have rather talked about "normal" things to get my mind off BC for a while.
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How nice of you to want to help. You have definitely come to the right place, and one of the first things I would do is suggest she join our "club". I wish I had known about it at the beginning of my journey. I've said before finding out you have breast cancer is like being told you have to learn a new language that you never wanted to learn, and without a teacher. Also I have looked to these ladies for their wisdom and support when I've been scared, worried or just wanted a place to vent.
Food is definitely appreciated, but it is REALLY helpful to have it organized. My neighbor and another friend alternated months of having a calender that they emailed for people to sign up (there are some online groups like Helping Hands that have a precreated format). What I found helpful was every other day during chemo. When we had it every day there was just too much food if you can believe it! Also offering to do chores, pick up/drop off kids or even just go out for coffee (or bring it there) was so appreciated.
You are a good friend and she is very lucky to have you.
Sharon
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Would she be OK with someone setting up a CaringBridge site for her and posting updates ? Easier than individual email or calls to friends/relatives all of whom ask the same "how are you doing" questions.
Housecleaning !! I managed meals, but the idea of serious cleaning was beyond me ... still is ;-)
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Hey there,
I think you've gotten some great suggestions! I like the SPECIFIC offers for help such as, let me make you dinner this week or I'll pick up the kids etc.
One thing that was very touching for me is that a group of women in the school organized a daily schedule (unbeknownst to me) for people to sign up to write me a card. I received a card every day in the mail for months. I heard from my good friends (some wrote me cards weekly, if even to just say "hope you're having a good day" or "I love you"), but I also heard from people I barely knew, who opened their hearts to me. It was so special and I still have the box of cards right next to my bed. I got cards from not just the women, but a lot of the children too -- I will always treasure them.
Oh, and by the way, I would never be offended if you wished me a swift recovery or healthy days! I thought it was sweet!
You are a good friend!
Jackie
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I must say I came back online this morning and am overwhelmed by all your responses. By the time I read them all I was crying, so thankful and very moved that you've taken the time to respond at all, let alone, so fully. All of your generous sharing will turn into actions for my friend and, I imagine, so many others. You are all so wonderful, I'd like to hug you all personally!
((((((((HUGS))))))))))
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Glad we could help and I'm sure your friend will appreciate anything you do for her, everything that was done meant a lot to me. The quilt was passed around a church and my family and everyone said a prayer and tied a knot, it has my name on it and a Bible verse. It was put on with sometype of laundry tape so it can be washed but you can tell it was printed on a computer....not sure where they got the tape from. My friends at work took turns bringing a dinner for me and my family the week I had chemo (the 3rd day after is when the exhaustion hits most people). Let us know how things go and if you have anymore questions you know where we are.
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I didn't know about caring bridge at time of Dx or Tx, but we set up a group list and sent out one email to everyone on it....at first my DH did it (right after surgery and then with recovery)...then I took over....I generally sent one out with each chemo (before chemo)....I was able to share whatever infor I wanted people to know...and I loved getting the caring emails in response.....many of the people on the list were people who came out to support me during the journey....caller id is great too as it allows you to decide if you need/want to pick up the phone....people can leave messages but you don't have to talk on the phone when you don't want to.....all the best to your friend....
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