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  • neecee
    neecee Member Posts: 663
    edited June 2011

    Welcome theatercat and slousha!  You will find great support here.

  • Beaglesgirl
    Beaglesgirl Member Posts: 287
    edited June 2011

    Hi everyone, I've been following you for awhile. My name is Laura and I have had a BMX with an immediate recon so I have TE right now. I am currently in the middle of chemo A/C then Taxol. Thank you for sharing your thoughts so far it has helped me so much!

  • Faithroad
    Faithroad Member Posts: 432
    edited June 2011
    Welcome to all the new people...I have posted here before but I'm not a regular yet.  I'm 7 months past my DMX and will soon have implants taken out.  Prosthetics will hopefully be more comfortable for me.  I just think these feel like rocks.  Oh well, live and learn.
    I also post on the stage I thread as I had stage I in my right breast and stage II in my left.  How do you know what grade the cancer was?  I don't recall any doctor telling me that.  Maybe I'll ask out of curiosity, at my next Onc appointment.
  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited June 2011

    I don't post on this thread a lot but I do lurk. Quick welcome to the newbies

    slousha, You crack me up. A little beer before bed. Granted I think I would prefer chocolate but if a little beer works for you then it sounds OK to me. Tongue out (slousha and I go way back. We met on some other threads).

  • kmpod
    kmpod Member Posts: 234
    edited August 2011

    Hi All,

     Well, after a gruellingly long wait for my path results (as I detailed on the "Just Diagnosed" thread) I'm reaching out to join hands with the Stage II'ers here.

    I've yet to see an oncologist so I'm uncertain of the path forward. This whole process has been hurry up and wait.

    I've had a right unilateral Mx (no reconstruction) and, since it seems that my right breast was a veritable hatchery for cancer I've decided that I'm going to go ahead and have a left PBx as soon as I can.

    I'm lucky that I had no node involvement, wide margins and no angiolymphatic invasion (my surgeon said I should go out and have a glass of champagne - Huh?); however to balance that I have a Grade 3 cancer that appears to have the personality of a school yard bully.

    I'm 60 and Er+ Pr+ HER2-.

    Any guesses what the onc will suggest?

    PS: How do I enter my diagnostic info into the signature line? 

  • Sereena
    Sereena Member Posts: 99
    edited August 2011

    kmpod, my guess is that at 60 you are post-menopausal as I am at 52. My onc put me on arimidex for at least the next 5 years. So far my only complaint about this med is that it makes your body feel 80. Squatting and bending down are no longer easy tasks but you just work through it....better that than the consequences of not taking the meds. also, go to you home page and there you will find the way to add your diagnosis.

  • Sereena
    Sereena Member Posts: 99
    edited August 2011

    kmpod, I want to add one more thing.....your doc told you to have a glass of champagne???? Ha, my onc told me...."this is a good prom you are going to".....really???? I guess because I have just a Grade I cancer.  Somehow I don't feel that way!

  • dixiebell
    dixiebell Member Posts: 280
    edited August 2011

    Hi everyone, got my stage 2 dx today. So now what. I dont know, had bmx with immediate 1 step alloderm reconstruction 6 days ago.  Really do not want to do anything further although EVERYONE is telling me I am crazy. I have osteopena so hormone therapy not an option. I keep reading that ILC only responds to chemo in a very very samll percentage of people. Just dont know. The one decision I am so glad I made was the bmx. At least I know one arm is preserved for IV's blood and blood pressures. Had I waited and had a reoccurance then both arms would be off limits and lymphedema has me scared especially since I fly every week for work!

  • pejkug3
    pejkug3 Member Posts: 902
    edited August 2011

    Dixie - would he oncotype test be of benefit to you?  Perhaps it's something you could discuss with you onc.

  • Faithroad
    Faithroad Member Posts: 432
    edited August 2011

    Dixie - I  have Osteoperosis beginning stage.  I"m 53.  I take Arimidex.  My onc told me that Osteperosis is a small concern compared to the bigger concern of cancer returning and she was adament about me taking an anti hormone med.

    I don't know what 1-step alloderm reconstruction is.  But don't let people talk you into something you're not really sure your want.  You are the one who has to live with it, not them. It's your body. I was unsure about  reconstruction but, went ahead with it anyway.  Turns out, I hated the implants, and the recon was extremely painful, and so last month I was deconstucted.  I feel much better now.  Feel more like myself.  I should have gone with my gut in the beginning.  Do what feels right for YOU.  That's hard because you don't know what recon feels like before you have it and it seems to feel different for each person.  But If you aren't completely sure you want to do it.  Wait, give yourself time to consider all your options.  Don't rush into a decision. 

    I wear a prosthetic, right now it's just a prosthetic puff in a regular bra, but it looks great and feels weightless. I"m now so comfortable, I forget they aren't real!. 

    Did you have an Oncotype test?  Hellpful information for making decisions. 

  • FireKracker
    FireKracker Member Posts: 8,046
    edited August 2011

    This thread has been quiet for a while...glad to see it coming alive again....I am stage 2 but originally stage1 so i post on the stage 1 thread.I did not have to do chemo (onco score was 10 but did 33 tx of rads.NOW IM DONE.....Im dancing with NED....I started a thread after rads.If anyone needs any info please feel free to come and join us.We have lots of fun too.My prayer for all of my sistas is NED forever.bc sure does suk.

    God bless all of us fighting this giant monster.We will beat you...hugggggs K

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited August 2011

    dixiebell - I am also osteopenic but am taking Femara.  More important to prevent a recurrence.  The osteopenia can be monitored and there are other meds to keep it at bay.  I would also recommend an oncotype if you are unsure about chemo.  It will help you make an informed decision.  If you are flying and had two nodes removed you really should be wearing sleeves as a preventive.  Did they take a node in the SNB from each side, or were all your nodes on one side?  I had a SNB on my prophy side as well.

    faithroad - a one-step with alloderm is a BMX with the immediate placement of implants (not TE's) and alloderm slings to help hold them up.  Dixibell's recon is completely done - hence the name one-step.

  • kmpod
    kmpod Member Posts: 234
    edited August 2011

    Hi Special K  - When you mention using a sleeve preventatively when flying, are you especially referring to the healing period - or indefinitely for someone who has no signs of lymphedema? 

    I realize that LE can develop up to years later but,does having a unilateral mx and 4 nodes taken mean that I should see about getting a sleeve for intermittent travel by air?

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited August 2011

    kmpod - hello! Yes, using a sleeve preventively for flying on a permanent basis to prevent LE is my understanding.  I just went to my PT today for exercise and asked her about this again - she said it is rare to develop LE from flying without a sleeve but she does have one patient that it happened to.  I figure it is a small inconvenience and I will feel less anxious about it with the sleeves.  The reason I asked her about it today is that she has to refer me to a fitter, they don't do it at the PT place and I thought today was the last time I will see her, but she is having me come for 3 more weeks.  I don't fly very often (once or twice a year) but when I do it is cross-country, so a longer flight.

  • Sereena
    Sereena Member Posts: 99
    edited August 2011

    I have flown several times since my last surgery (ALND) on January 25 of this year. A total of 26 nodes removed and both my rad onc and surgeon said it wasn't necessary to use the sleeve. The reason being is that I am in great physical shape/condition with no upper body fat at all. Apparently that is a huge factor. They both said that if I did chose to use one (and yes I got a script for one and did not fill it) that it would be for piece of mind. No signs of LE!!!!

  • D4Hope
    D4Hope Member Posts: 352
    edited August 2011
    Hi yall. over two years out. I had a BMX with immediate Diep reconstruction. I have three children and after surgery I healed quickly probably because I was so focused on caring for them. I was blown away by my diagnosis but life is back to semi normal, whatever that is LOL. I had a sentinal node biopsy and fortunately have not had to deal with LE.  Now my life is full with  soccer, football, baseball and cheerleading. I really am blessed Smile
  • Faithroad
    Faithroad Member Posts: 432
    edited August 2011

    Dixie - the anti-hormone drug Tamoxifen actually increases bone density.  Smile

    It is used for both pre and post menepausal women.

  • JeanneR
    JeanneR Member Posts: 128
    edited August 2011

    faithroad: It was my understanding that Tamoxifen increases bone density only if you are pre-menopause, but it actually decreases bone density if you are post-menopause?

  • kt1966
    kt1966 Member Posts: 1,326
    edited August 2011

    Hi. My first post here too. Just having a look & thought I'd put my 2 cents worth in! I'm nearly 8 years out from diagnosis & had tamoxifen after MX, AC chemo & radiation. Just a warning for premenopausal women taking tamoxifen- it actually reduces bone density for us! I didn't realise & I took it for nearly 7 years.

    Now I am osteopenic & have just had my first dose of zoladrenic acid (aka reclast, zometa, aclasta) to combat this. (I have also been started on zoladex & femara as a precaution for rising tumour markers, which will further decrease bone density too).

    I really liked tamoxifen because I didn't have SEs, but if I'd known about bone desity I would have done something to counter that. So you might like to talk to your Dr about that.

    Smile all the best 

  • Binney4
    Binney4 Member Posts: 8,609
    edited August 2011

    Hello, all,

     Just wanted to add a few words about lymphedema risk. So much controversy, and it's hard to figure out what to do. For the record, though, there are lots of us trim gals on the Lymphedema board here who were told that because of being slight we didn't need to worry about lymphedema. It's true that being obese increases the risk, but being thin sure doesn't eliminate it!Frown

    Since I'm one of several women here who developed lymphedema after flying (and seeing as how it pretty well ruined that trip, not to mention complicating the rest of my lifeTongue out), I just wanted to say that a very well-fitted compression sleeve and glove or gauntlet (fingerless glove) might very well give you a whole lot more than simply peace of mind -- like protection from this chronic condition, for instance. Besides being useful for travel, compression garments can also help when you're exercising or doing any strenuous or unusual (for you) activity. 

    I had a single node removed on my cancer side and no nodes purposely removed on my prophylactic side, and I now have lymphedema on both sides and in my chest and back, and everybody told me I was not at risk and not to bother with any precautions. I wish I'd know better! Just so you can make your own informed decisions about these issues, here's some information that might help:

    Proper fitting of sleeves and gloves/gauntlets:
    http://www.stepup-speakout.org/proper_fitting_of_lymphedema_garments.htm

    Why you need hand protection, not just a sleeve (the author of this brief article is one of the leading lymphologists and lymphedema researchers in the U.S.):
    http://lymphedivas.com/lymphedema/gauntletandsleeve/

    Two sites with suggestions for lymphedema risk reduction:
    http://www.stepup-speakout.org/riskreduction_for_lymphedema.htm

    http://www.lymphnet.org  (see their Position Papers on Breast Cancer/LE Screening, Air Travel, Exercise, and Risk Reduction)

    Wishing you all no "swell" days, ever!
    Binney

  • dixiebell
    dixiebell Member Posts: 280
    edited August 2011

    Thanks everyone for the tips. Especially related to lymphedema which I am scared to death of it. I had 18 nodes removed all on the cancer side (my left) 2 were cancerous and have horrible pain on that side down to my tricep.I have no feeling under my arm (axilla) at all . I am 10 days post op. The right side does not feel like anything has been done.  I have been fitted for a sleeve and glove and will have to wear it when I fly. I also asked my oncologist to order the oncotype. Thanks for sharing.

  • Rockym
    Rockym Member Posts: 1,261
    edited August 2011

    I posted this in another forum, but since I am now an official Stage II sister, I feel I should hang out here a bit :-).  I've looked at my posts going back to my first dx in June and it's still so strange to be discussing all these personal things.  I do appreciate all the information from everyone and this website has been invaluable.  I've gotten better info. here then at some doctor's offices :-)

    Anyway, I'm hurting, I'm sore and I'm tired! It's one week and a day since my 2 surgeries and this has been an emotional week to say the least.  Now that I'm all patched up, drains are out, etc., it's time to heal.  My first MO appointment didn't go as I had imagined. I had to use the internet and MY OWN RESOURCES to figure out my true final path!

    Seems my SNB was negative, but my BS still found positive axillary nodes with micromets.  I suppose there was a good chance of this since my tumor was almost under my arm.  My breast still looks nice (although black and blue), but MO just jumped into the chemo discussion saying pre-menopausal node positive women get chemo.  I'm the one who had to bring up the Oncotype test to him!  They do the test with pre-menopausal women who are both node neg. and women who are 1-3 node positive.  For sure they do it with post-menopausal node positive women and he initially made it sound like it wasn't an important test for me.  Heck, I even mentioned that perhaps I should have my RO order this test.  After that, his nurse explained more about chemo and ordered the Oncotype test.

    Anyway, the MO said I was Grade 2 and I have since found out I am Grade 1.   Maybe he was thinking I was asking about stage, but who knows.  THESE STATS ARE IMPORTANT when it comes to making decisions that can affect the rest of your life! Time for a 2nd opinion!   It may be the same, but at least I'll be dealing with a different personality.  I do know the various choices I have, but a fresher, more vibrant MO may be best for me.   It's a relationship that will be for 5 years or so and I say that you should like the doctor and their office.  Location is also important as no one wants to be driving all over the place if you don't have to.

    On the other hand, my RO yesterday was great!   She said to just hang in there until the Oncotype test comes back and we can talk again.   She mentioned it was time to talk to my 9 year old daughter and she also answered a lot of my husband's questions.

  • roxy42
    roxy42 Member Posts: 495
    edited August 2011

    I'm stage 2b I had a 3 cm one node involvement,that was 4 years ago.I was on tomox for one year could not handle it.Then was on arimidex for 3 years,I have had every side affect of that drug,I couldent handle it any more I'm 46 and arimidex made me feel like 90.I begged the Onc to take me off of it.he did,but now he wants me to start Aromasin for that last year,Im so scared to take because of what arimidex  did to me..I only have one year left until the 5 year mark.........godbless roxy

  • Faithroad
    Faithroad Member Posts: 432
    edited August 2011

    KT66 - Thank you sooooo much for correcting me regarding the Tamoxifen and bone density.  I had no idea it was different for premenapausal women.  I took it before and after my hysterectomy.  My Onc recommended the hysterectomy so she must have just told me about postmenapausal SEs.  I very much apologize for my error in information, and thank you for .sharing your experience.

    SpecialK - thanks for the info on one-step Alloderm. 

    I started Arimidex a week and half ago.  My feet and calves are swelling if I sit too long at my computer at work.  I get backaches at night now.  My joints are getting more stiff/sore.  I am already at the beginning stages of Osteoperosis.  I don't imagine this will help any, but my Onc said she felt it was the best thing for me to take regardless of the osteo...another choice was famera.  Don't know much about that drug.  At least I'm not as tired as I was when I was taking Tamox.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited August 2011

    faithroad - just started on Femara (generic) a couple of weeks ago.  I had a TAH/BSO 10 years ago, and am osteopenic. No problems except for foot/ankle stiffness.  Still feeling some neuropathy on the bottoms of my feet from chemo so that combined with stiff feet and ankles is kind of weird feeling - it is most noticeable in the morning for about the first 10 minutes of walking around, then it goes away.  No problems with increased flashes, honestly I don't think I have much E to suppress!

  • Faithroad
    Faithroad Member Posts: 432
    edited August 2011

    Special K - Does Femara increase osteoperosis?

    I'm sorry to be so clueless...what is a TAH/BSO?

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited August 2011

    faithroad - I believe that there can be some issues with Femara and osteoporosis, but I think with monitoring it can be handled for me.  Making sure of calcium intake and regular bone density screening I am willing to take my chances.  I was ER+1 100%.  I am considering leaving my port in somewhat long-term in case I need Reclast.  I tried Actonel and Boniva but I had reflux surgery in '95 and they both gave me trouble with burning in the esophagus.  I would rather bypass the gut if I need those drugs.  My MO is aware of all of this as well. TAH/BSO is total abdominal (bikini cut like a c-section) hysterectomy and bilateral salpingo oopherectomy - basically hysterectomy and ovaries out!

  • kt1966
    kt1966 Member Posts: 1,326
    edited August 2011

    (I've changed my user name- KT66 sounded like a shouty 66 yr old, & I'm a quieter 45 yr old!)

    SpecialK & Faithroad, I'm on femara too- it does deplete bone density as well as it totally gets rid of all estrogen. Hence I'm on the zoledronic acid to stop further bone loss and allow the bones to rebuild. (if you start it ask to have anti-nausea meds the first time as the SE's are worse for those who haven't had bisphosphonates before- each time you have it SE's get less)

    My SE's from femara (I've been on it for nearly a month) are stiffness too. Sometimes I think I'm going to have a hot flash, but then the feeling goes away- phew... 

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited August 2011

    kt1966 - thanks for the info!  I have concerns about the bone situation, but I think I can medicate that, and I feel like I need to be on an AI if I can tolerate it.  Hate the flashes but I don't really have too many - they have not increased since I have been on Femara.  I was on a very minimal dose of HRT until the day I was diagnosed and I cold-turkeyed it.  Was expecting the flashes to be worse but they stayed the same as when I was taking HRT - I was pleasantly surprised.

  • babsbrink
    babsbrink Member Posts: 314
    edited August 2011

    This is my first post. I am almost two weeks post lumpectomy, meeting medical oncologist monday to discuss/set up chemo. I of course am scared and unhappy.I am new at this cancer thing, and some days I don't handle it very well. So glad to find a place where I can talk about it without getting the "I'm so sorry for you but please don't talk about it" look. I have tried to convey to my family and friends that I am not going to die anytime soon, but they are scared too.  The bad news is that the cancer center is a 120 mile drive, that's what I get for living in the boonies.

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