May 2011 Radiation

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2011

    I'm 11/30 and zippo on the scratcher today!  My question of the day was..."I'm starting to feel the fatigue...it feels like jetlag to me. Do I fight it or given into it and rest?"  The answer was "the fatigue is because your body is trying to heal and you should listen to your body and rest if it says to."  Easier said than done when you work in an office! As this moves forward, I'll start working from home so I can nap.

    edwards750: Standard radiation is whole breast and boost is additional radiation only to the tumor site itself (they can "shape" the beam).

    ally1423: Welcome. Sorry to hear you're tackling the beast again. Whether or not you decide to do radiation, this is a great site for support! Please feel free to ask questions if you have any.

    GmaFoley: S'ok to be upset. This is a very disturbing process and we all deal with it differently. Inside of a week, you're likely to find it somewhat boring and...Groundhog Dayish!

    TonLee: "one eyed electronic perv"?? LMAO!

  • hopefortomorrow
    hopefortomorrow Member Posts: 193
    edited June 2011

    GmaFoley, I totally understand the nervousness and the tears. In fact, the second day in my eyes were teary and the next thing you know they are asking me if I would feel better talking to a social worker!  I swear they ask me that even if I am in a good mood! I just always must look sad! Anyways, the first few times on the table I wasn't worried about crying, I worried that I suddenly felt very nauseas and felt like I was going to throw up! I told the girl I was feeling sick and she didn't even blink an eye- she was like, "just a few more minutes."  (I have to lay on my stomach for treatment) I did make it through, but it happened to me the next day too! I kept telling myself mind over matter and somehow I made it through!

  • sagina
    sagina Member Posts: 1,219
    edited June 2011

    Tonlee~ The dots are the hair follicles - he said more stuff but I was so tired today, I checked out on the rest.  I've had a dry cough since yesterday and thought it might be throat or lung irritation - nope, the RO said way to early for that.  I asked him what he meant since June 7 is my last treatment - he said the dry cough can come on a couple weeks after treatment.

    Gmafoley~ When you get on the table tomorrow, make an effort to relax your shoulders - I have to tell myself everyday to relax the shoulders - then it seems the rest of me tries to relax too. 

    Radiation fatigue I have defined it as the inability to want to do anything! 

  • ProudMom_Wife
    ProudMom_Wife Member Posts: 634
    edited June 2011

    alley1423 - So sorry you have to deal with this again.  Before you make any decisions learn about all your options.  Try to get different opinions from at least two medical oncologists, two radiation oncologists and two good plastic surgeons.

    A friend of mine went through radiation treatments 3 years after her reconstruction due to a recurrance. She had minor issues with her silicone implant, told me it was nothing like she feared and decided to not even bother with having anything done with her implant because the effect of radiation on her implant was so minor in her instance.  

    Good luck.  Sending {{{HUGS}}} 

  • duckyb1
    duckyb1 Member Posts: 13,369
    edited June 2011

    Hi Ladies, went yesterday for treatment, saw the RO, and she said "good thing you only have 7 treatments left, "we are starting to see some skin reaction"..............well she was right, had a couple blisters, but not on the breast..........in the chest area above the breast.............she also said a part of my underarm is getting zapped too, and it is getting red...........asked if it was sore.........I told her a little...............Portals tomorrow, and then starting my 1st boost on Friday, then 4 more the following week, then I get to "ring the bell"..................However "Mark" my adorable tech, said "you will still have to watch for the next 2 weeks after your done Rads for more skin reaction............it sometimes happens............NICE Undecided........well at least this phase is almost over.

  • GabbyCal
    GabbyCal Member Posts: 277
    edited June 2011

    Hi Ducky - Glad to hear you're on the home stretch of this. I'm curious - what are Portals? I haven't heard that term?

    I'm one day behind you in treatments and having similar skin reactions. I've got the itchy rash with tiny blisters on my chest above my breast. I have the setup for boosts today, then boosts start next week Monday. For me, the itching is the worst part. One night last week I was washing dishes and absent-mindedly scratched. I caught myself right away, but had scratched open one of the little blisters. When I got in the shower the next morning, it stung when the water hit it. That sure sent a message: don't scratch that itch!

  • duckyb1
    duckyb1 Member Posts: 13,369
    edited June 2011

    Gabby,.......have the paperwork in front of me................they are calling it Portal Films........This is what it says............

    This is written record to inform you of changes in your daily treatment schiedule.  It is necessary to change your times at certain points during your treatment in order to set up new fields (Simulation)  and verify these fields on the treatment table (Portal Films)..............plus you will receive normal Rad as soon as these procedures are done.

    I already had the Simulation done last week which took about 45 minutes............pain in the ass, since you have to stay in that position for at least 25 minutes with arms overhead..............not sure how I will be positioned for this Portal crap.......................I am running out of patience with the whole thing, and the bullshit with the freaky "woman" today, has not helped...............Don't like her, and thank God I only had to deal with the freak 2 times...........Everyone else is wonderful.........

  • duckyb1
    duckyb1 Member Posts: 13,369
    edited June 2011

    Gabby............The way they explained Simulation before they did that is this way................................during the first 28 Rads they were treating the "whole breast", now the Simulation is being done for the "5 boosts"...................which happens at the end of whole breast treatment................my very sweet tech told me they would be going in to right where the tumor was located with the final 5 boosts................I was also told that I could have some "skin problems".............for up to 2 weeks after my final treatments..................after I come back today I will post and let you know what they Portal Films consisted of...............

  • TonLee
    TonLee Member Posts: 2,626
    edited June 2011

    #12 down!  WOO HOO!!  Went to the gym after....lifting weights without a bra feels weird, and a little naughty...buwhahahahaha.

    Every day is one step closer to being free of my cancer center (at least 3 weeks at a time until Dec)!!

    They're all nice, but if I never seen them again professionally.....lol

    No moo-la today on the scratchers....I'm going outside to plant some flowers!!  B-U-TIFUL day here in the buckeye state :)

  • Ker
    Ker Member Posts: 9
    edited June 2011

    Gma- I cried through the simulation and brought my best friend for round 1. I sang Sound of Music and I Will Survive throughout the first week. I don't cry now as the process has become routine. That part will get easier.

    I finished 12/33 today. My skin is ok, but I feel very sore under my arm pit. Is the only remedy the various skin lotions we've discussed? How do they deal with pain? I know this gets worse and I am afraid of more under the skin pain. My friend uses vanilla on all burns (non-radiation). Anyone heard of this? Scares me....

  • sagina
    sagina Member Posts: 1,219
    edited June 2011

    Tonlee I start boosts today, I want some of your beautiful energy to take with me at 4 pm.

    Ducky~ the techs and RO told me my skin was holding up nicely - they all seem surprised - probably since I'm huge!  I think the no bra really helped - I didn't have anything rubbing against the skin.  I am sleeping topless, and applying Renecare (given by RO) it's a lidacain product. 

    when mentioning blisters do you all mean like on the back of your foot when you get new shoes?  I have what look like pimples? Gross....

  • MamaV
    MamaV Member Posts: 907
    edited June 2011

    Hello all.  I hope you don't mind me lurking here.  I've been reading for a while.  I have 6 more Taxols to go (5 after tomorrow) and then will start radiation at the end of July.  I, like many with BC, am having problems with major anxiety.  Taxol has been so easy on me (after A/C nearly killed me) that I am now freaking out about the next phase - radiation.  So I have been trying to read up on it to easy my anxiety.  I work full time and am worried about the fatigue that comes near the end of radiation.  I need to work and have just about exhausted all of my vacation and sick time for 2011.  For those of you who are nearing the end of radiation this week, can you give me an idea of what I am in for?  I have visions of not being able to get out of bed (like with A/C) - is it that bad or will I be able to work and then nap after work if needed?  The worst part of this BC for me has been the roller coaster of emotions and the financial strain that comes with not working.  I've made it this far and am freaking out about the next phase! 

  • GmaFoley
    GmaFoley Member Posts: 7,091
    edited June 2011

    Hey - Do you think they will let me bring a beanie baby size teddy bear with me??? :)  I don't have one but maybe if I had a friend with me in that lonely room!

    Grammie Esther Do not be afraid of tomorrow; for God is already there. ~Author Unknown - Oncotype score: 8
  • sagina
    sagina Member Posts: 1,219
    edited June 2011

    MamaV~ I've worked full time in an office through rads.  I'm in my last week, and the fatigue for me is the worst in the mornings.  I"m not feeling sick like I did through chemo though.  This is more uncomfortable and a pain in the ass but manageable.  I bought a cami that zipped up in front and went "braless" almost from the beginning, I think that helped.

    I scheduled by rads last thing in afternoon so I could go home and nap if needed.  The fatigue is like when you have a really busy day and you go home and sit down and fall asleep in the chair.  When I wake up from a nap I don't feel groggy at all.

    Make sure to get to bed at a decent hour, I don't and I think that's why the fatigue is so bad in the mornings.  I good after I get moving.

    Gmafoley~perhaps you can hang on to that above your head instead of the ring or bar?

  • MamaV
    MamaV Member Posts: 907
    edited June 2011

    sagina- Congrats on being almost done!  That is exactly what I needed to hear.  I am in an office too, planning on rads last thing in the afternoon too so I can nap if needed when I get home.  I will also plan on early to bed - doing that now through chemo anyway :)

    Good luck to all - hope you don't mind me lurking once in a while to see how you are all doing!  I will be right behind you as soon as I get off the chemo train.

  • achpurple
    achpurple Member Posts: 290
    edited June 2011

    Hang out here anytime you want - any discussion that helps is the one you need to be in.  I just finished my 12th out of 20 this morning and so far I notice nothing.  I don't want to jinx myself for saying that, and my RO says that I will before it's over.  You can do this!  

  • carberry
    carberry Member Posts: 1,153
    edited June 2011

    mamaV  good luck on the rest of the chemo train.  Rads is very doable after chemo.

    Tonlee i also have someone in the rad office that irks me...its the nurse....she told me today to always cover up outside or stay in the house.  i told her that i was an outdoor person and we practically live on a boat in the summer.  She said " well, there is always next summer"  I don't think you should ever say that to a cancer pt. cause we really dont know if we will have a "next" summer.  She told me not to wear sunscreen either.  Well the Onc Dr. kind of threw her under the bus and said absolutely I should wear sunblock!  My shirts are never gonna cover my neck area, unless I wear a turtleneck, and that aint happening in the summer. Anyway...I am going to do the best I can but still keep on living!

  • TonLee
    TonLee Member Posts: 2,626
    edited June 2011

    Sagina,

    I'm jealous!!  You're almost done....wish I was close. 

    Carberry,

    It's not realistic to expect us to stay inside.  I bought spray on SPF so I spritz and then I'm outside...the only real concession I've made (I always wore SPF before) is wearing a short sleeve shirt...I usually wear a tank....THAT is about killing me because I don't like feeling sleeves under my arm...lol

    My frankenboob is getting sore and tight. 

    Just as an aside...anyone with rads to the right side have severe pain just beneath the ribcage?  I actually don't think its rads (doesn't come close to that area)...it feels like an internal organ because its in the front and back as well as the side...but for the last 4 days it hurts "deep" inside....I won't even think the "M" word...

    Unless the pain is so bad I need an ambulance ... non of my Drs will order any type scan....I've never had a PET or CT.....

  • edwards750
    edwards750 Member Posts: 3,761
    edited June 2011

    Thanks tinaj..have another question. At what point do they do a test to determine if the radiation is working or is there such a test? diane

  • sundermom
    sundermom Member Posts: 463
    edited June 2011

    The whole radiation thing is turning me into a complete b@#&!.  Yesterday, I left work early (as always, which is a pain in the butt when you're the principal) only to arrive at the RO's office and be told that one of  the machines was broken.  OK.  I asked how long it might be and I was told that there was no way to know.  There are two machines where I go for treatment and I just assumed that they would rotate us all into the working machine.  Well . . . after waiting for almost 90 minutes I was then told that I should go home because I can only be treated on Machine #2 (the broken one).  I later come to find out that the machine had been broken since 2PM, at least an hour before my appointment time.  Could they not have called me and told me to not to come in?  I mean I've filled out piles of paperwork with my home number, work number, cell number - it's not like they don't know how to get a hold of me!  I find this frustrating.  I'm trying to go about living my life and it seems as if my time is of no concern to anyone at this office.  So now one more stinking day gets tacked on to the end, putting my final day of tx on Friday July 8th.  I swear if I have to go another week into July I'm going to scream at someone!!!

    #6/33 today with no ill effects so far

    Tammy

  • GmaFoley
    GmaFoley Member Posts: 7,091
    edited June 2011

    Tonlee: what did you eat over the weekend - could be gallbladder.. Greasy fried foods or lots of hotdogs could do it... Just a thought.

    And everyone that offered me advice : THANKS!  Went lots better today....first I asked about the crying and deep sighing - It doesn't affect it in any way unless you sneeze or move your body... secondly I went out and got me a baby stuffed monkey and held her in my hands while they did the treatment and then I thought about the amazing technology and imagined it being my friend by fighting the stray cancer cells...  I panicked a little but didn't start crying....

    My breast is a little warm and the tech said its too early for that being only the 2nd - but I don't believe him.... LOL

  • sundermom
    sundermom Member Posts: 463
    edited June 2011

    gmafoley - I experienced a sensation of tightness right after the first treatment and my RO told me it WASN'T my imagination.  I also turned pink that night and have every night thereafter.  Somehow my body recovers overnight and I wake up the next morning with normal sensations and skin tone.   

  • TonLee
    TonLee Member Posts: 2,626
    edited June 2011

    Tsunder,

    I am with you on the inconvenience!!  My machine breaks once I'm there and on the table...then they tell me to leave and come back later in the day....shoots the crap outta plans.

    Gma,

    I didn't eat anything fried, or different for that matter....I'll just keep an eye on it....or gut..whateva!   Thanks.

  • duckyb1
    duckyb1 Member Posts: 13,369
    edited June 2011

    One more whole breast treatment tomorrow, and then 5 boosts and I am done.........................Breast looks exceptionally good..............I have  a rash which is itchy, and has this tiny blister on a couple, but is really nothing....................I did great..........even my RO was shocked .  She kept calling me her blue eyed, blonde, and expected me to have some problems, but it never happened.......................don't misunderstand it can be a little pink, discolored, but nothing like I have read here........................so fear not ladies........there is always the possibilty that you could have the same result.

    yes ..............27 of 33 done...............

    Sagina........................were almost there "girlfriend"..............yahoo.......................

  • GabbyCal
    GabbyCal Member Posts: 277
    edited June 2011

    GmaFoley - I'm so happy to hear things went better today. Love the monkey! Good choice of animal friends to help you navigate through this jungle.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2011

    12/33 and won $3 on a scratcher today!  That's $23 on my $30 investment. =)

    Holy cow! I'd be freaked if the machine broke down all the time, particularly while I'm ON THE TABLE! lol

    edwards750: There isn't a test that will confirm it's working that I'm aware of. I believe radiation damages the cells in the field, and healthy cells can recover while cancer cells cannot. Hence the need to eat high protein and take care of yourself as well as why the fatigue sets in...your body is constantly working to heal itself.  They do xrays weekly to confirm the radiation field is hitting where it should.

    When I quizzed the substitute RO this week (my guy is on vacation) on why my plan had changed after the first week xrays, he said that there's lots of reasons such as you relax more or (and this was fascinating) large breasts that tend not to always settle the same way when you're on your back (geez...I'm not THAT big and I have dense breasts so they don't slide under my arms or anything!), swelling in the breast, etc.

    BTW...now that I've met two ROs I have to wonder if they are all older, dry, professor-types or if that's just the two guys at my center? Tongue out

  • GmaFoley
    GmaFoley Member Posts: 7,091
    edited June 2011

    Gabby I wish I could put a picture up but can't figure out how to do it - she is a very cute little monkey - actually a baby toy.

    Tina: My RO is older but his son is my rad tech - they are sure good looking LOL.

  • hdangelbaby
    hdangelbaby Member Posts: 731
    edited June 2011

    I have graduated to the lotion with lidocaine.... although it's still not as bad as i thought it would be by middle of week 4

    lucky?

    maybe... hopefully!!!

  • ftblmom3
    ftblmom3 Member Posts: 100
    edited June 2011

    hdangelbaby-i also got the aquaphor with lidocaine today! my freaking nipple actually hurt during treatment yesterday and last night! and it looks weird too. UGH!!!!!

    Fatigue is starting to kick in later in the day for me, yesterday it was worse than today. #12 done today, 13 more than 6 boosts. I am so ready to be done!

    I am thinking of asking my MO if i can hold off on taking Tamoxifen for a little while? Did anyone else wait? I just feel like i want a break.

    I agree with whoever said the second part is the hardest because i am definitely feeling it this week, maybe it was like being spoiled with 3 days off, but it seems like the beginning of every week i have a hard time emotionally. It seems like we all kinda feel this way.

    The weather here in PA was gorgeous this afternoon after a couple super hot humid days.

  • sagina
    sagina Member Posts: 1,219
    edited June 2011

    TonLee ~ do you sleep on that side?  I had some weird pain on my side until i started to sleep on my back~ cause of the rads burns.

    ducky~ yes we are almost done -  I am beyond pink though, I am more like red to maroon.

    TinaJ~ you'd be amazed at the acrobatics my boob does on that table! lol

    Hdangelbaby~ I'm using the lidocaine cream at night, but it sure stinks for a sec before working!

    Tammy~ I think the whole staff should get a big fat detention!

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