DIEP 2011
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LadyM13-I already had my pre op last week and it was just blood work and EKG. No CAT scan. That's ok, I am doing this no matter what. I truly hope for the easier surgery but what will be- will be. I am in the hands of my PS team. I was already told that the SIEP and DIEP are much easier on THEM as well as me, so they always prefer it.
Tomorrow is my last day of work for a while. I am leaving for Camp Good Days on Friday for the weekend and I will spend Monday and Tuesday getting groceries and organizing the house for my return home.
This is a great group and thank you ladies. I have been addicted to this site since I found it. I have been on other forums and didn't stick with it like this one.
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Carolyn, that is exactly what I was trying to say. My DH would not touch my mastectomy side for anything in the world and therefore ignores my other breast to keep him from feeling uncomfortable. I will be very curious to see how he acts after my surgery.
Alexan, enjoy your weekend. I hope you have a blast! I will be checking on you next week!
Susan
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Post DIEP boobs FEEL like real breasts. My husband actually likes to touch them - and they're not even done yet!
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WOOHOO!!!! How exciting. I can't wait!
Susan
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How long post surgery does it take for new boobs to feel like real breasts? Aren't they hard and swollen for awhile? Do they bounce and jiggle like real breasts?
I can't wait to have smaller breasts. It will be so different after having these huge jugs for so many years. They are disproportionate to the rest of my body. My PS says my new breasts are going to be better than the old ones. I hope so.
I'm 3 weeks til blast off!
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c8ndygr1: My breast looks and feel so supple eventhough it is new and have the scarring. My breast is not hard and is only swollen at the top above the scar line.
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mascal- you had delayed I believe, so where exactly is the scar- is it right across the top, how do you think it will look in a low cut top or bra?
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They jiggle, they bounce, they move, they're warm - mine just have a few "dents" and no nipples at the moment. But, that will be fixed starting July 11th. It took about a month before the swelling went down in both my abdomen and breasts. But, they starting looking like they were going to look at that point. (I also started seeing where the tweaks needed to be made).
I had immediate so my scars are circles right in the middle. There are no scars anywhere else on my breasts except my leftover lumpectomy scar from 7 years ago.
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We have a fantastic group on this thread! Thank you everyone! I'm wish everyone with upcoming dates strength & confidence!
Susan: congratulations on losing 3 lbs! Sounds like you are determined and will reach your goal. I am inspired!
Mscal: Good on you! Getting all the drains pulled is a great milestone!
My DH perked right up the first time I was dressed & looking like myself. At first I was upset -doesn't he realize what I've been through, all he cares is that there is a boob shape, . . feeling like a victim (poor me - waaah!), he is so superficial . . . and then I realized I was looking for reasons to feel hurt. His response was a GOOD thing! Silly me!
TMI alert!!! . . . .The first time for sex after DIEP, I was nervous & self conscious. I talked to my DH first about how I felt & how worried I was that he would find my scars unattractive and then we took it slooooooow (no one home, no time pressure). I asked him to touch all my scars first and really look them - I needed to be in control that first time to feel comfortable and to feel accepted, scars & all. I was worried about something hurting or getting hurt (or tearing my graft - silly, but true). The more I am open about my fears, the better it is. Our DH's love US, not out body parts, although the parts are icing on the cake! Men tend to be more visual but once things get cooking, I don't think superficial things matter. Each of us will have our own preferences about intimacy after our procedures, but whatever they are, try to honor them.BC really scared my DH and he admits to being overwhelmed - he said he didn't think he could handle stage 2 with another round of general anesthesia and all that comes with. I think they often need us to lead the way and I know he was afraid of hurting me or doing or saying the wrong thing, plus I am extra sensitive & vulnerable after the surgeries and trying to make sense of my own feelings. Thank goodness for our female friends & family!
I love the line from Eat, Pray, Love when Julia Roberts' friend complains about being fat and Julia tells her "guys feel like they just won the lottery just having a naked woman in the room."
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ladym: the scar is an oval shape just below the top. from wearing my tank tops now, I can see that I will be able to wear low cut tops without the scar showing.
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Kathy, you always crack me up!!! I will have to ask my DH if he feels like he hit the lottery when I am naked in the room with him!! The thought of that is making me laugh out loud. I know what you mean though. Often, it's about us accepting ourselves. As long as we are happy in our own skin, what others think really doesn't matter.
Susan
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Kathy, I think your husband probably perked up because when he sees you looking like yourself, he thinks you feel like yourself and that makes him happy and relieved. I don't know him of course, but that seems like a good possibility to me if he was scared and overwhelmed with your dx and all you have been through. Men don't like to feel helpless. They want to fix things and he didn't know how to fix any of this.
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alexanjb: I can't remember his specific comment, but it was definitely all about the boob! He has always owned up to being a 'boob' man - God love him!
Yes - you are so right about most men needing to fix things and not wanting to feel helpless!
Susan - they totally feel like they've won the lottery and don't let them fool you by saying it isn't true! I have shared that line around and we are all cracking up about it.
This is SO off track from this thread, but at 54, my goal is to have as many orgasms as possible (sorry to be so blunt, but that is the TRUTH!) I found an 'instructional' VHS tape at my thrift store for 10 cents and have been sharing it with my girlfriends . . so dated, pretty funny, but it has some geat advice! And, Dr. Oz says great sex takes years off your life, so I am making up for lost time! -
My PS says I will have lollipop or keyhole scars on my breasts, like the ones for breast reductions, a line running down from the areola. I do have a lumpectomy scar above that I hope he can fix somehow.
My DH being a man, I don't think a few scars will put him off sex forever. If he doesn't like my scars, he can close his eyes. LOL
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Alas........I don't know if I will ever have sex again! My DH is dysfunctional and has been since well before MY dx. Me thinks he likes the drink better than the "getting busy". He hasn't even seen me without my clothes since before the mx. So, if I don't chime in when you gals put in TMI it's only because I am not currently participating in that club.
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My new boobs....leaving the hospital I said omg my boobs are jiggling...felt great!!!
Last night while n the kitchen I bent over to pick up something and I looked and said to DH and DD OMG look when I bend over you can see my new boobs lol
Shhh I'm at work and looking on BC.O
The icky spot, when looked at it last night at 10 it was scabbed over and not draining any more. I checked again this am ad scabbed and dry so I called them at Rochester and told them I wouldn't be making the trip today and that I'd keep an eye on it. I can say that as far as healing my body does an amazing job and repairing, always has. Have any of you heard that fresh pineapple is good for healing. I ate 2 the week before surgery and now 1 a week after. Yes I eat the whole thing myself LOL.
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Alex: when he sees your new body he will be excited whether he says it or not. All of the females that I show my DIEP to are so excited and wants to have tummy tucks,butts added and all sorts of PS done. I am looking forward to seeing the look on his face when I put on my swimsuit, or just plain form fitting clothes.
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wow--just got back from my pre op appt & interesting conversation going on here!! my dh has been averting his eyes since my mx, and .... it hurts. so this upcoming surgery is really important to me. so hoping when i look more normal, things will get back to normal. he lost his previous wife & this whole bc thing has him scared.
now the frustrating news is, they informed me at my appt the surgery date is being changed-again!! not sure when it will be now, as they are trying to get room times. part of this is my fault for pushing for a date because of the wedding next month, so they did give me a date the surgeons were available, but there is a conflict with the hospital schedule. grrrrrrr
must say, it is so encouraging to hear how well you all are doing after surgery. really helping to put my fears to rest.
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@alexanjb - you say your DH hasn't seen you without your clothes since before the mx. If you want to get that party started, try taking some clothes off and see what happens. Maybe he thinks you aren't interested anymore. Don't give up on him yet. Men are definitely visual.They gotta see to get interested. Good luck!
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Can't remember where I read this but someone posted that DIEP is like taking out old stuffing and putting in new. I like that and that's what I'm using to explain my breast reconstruction. Uninformed people think mastectomy is like a guillotine and have never heard of reconstruction.They don't realize women can still have real live breasts again after mastectomy.
I am so happy we have this DIEP microsurgery option. I'm thrilled to exchange my old BC 'stuffing' for new. And getting a tummy tuck as a bonus.
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OMG, I am also sitting at my desk, supposedly working, when I read Kathy's post. I spit water on my monitor I laughed so hard! You go girl. Now I know why your husband brings you coffee in bed!
Alexan, don't feel bad. Our sex life has been sporadic and kind of like uncoordinated. Where we know each other so well and always knew where and how to touch, it is all different now. Like Mscal said, there is no way my DH would touch my mastectomy side. I hope that the DIEP surgery will allow us to move on with our lives in more ways than one.
Grdnslv, let us know when you get a new date!
Xray, are you ready for Monday?
Susan
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Ooops, Sue, I forgot to ask. How did you do at work? Are you exhausted? I bought a pineapple this weekend thinking about you and have eaten it every day. If I can get through this as well as you I will eat a pineapple a week for the rest of my life!
Susan
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treesprite, you are too funny! I have a new bucket list since dx with cancer but that wasnt on it, but now it is! I hope my DH can keep up! It is also a good form of excercise.
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I think fresh pineapple supplies bromelain - I have saved the peels and rubbed the cut side on scars for accelerated healing - I wouldn't do it until things are well under way though - probably would sting and not sure about infection risk, but definitely eating it is great. I think papaya also supplies bromelain.
During our 34 years of marriage, we have been through just about everything and have had LONG periods where our sex life was in stall mode! There is a weird cycle where each person feels unacceptable and/or rejected and everything keeps reinforcing the disconnect; the pain is so difficult to deal with and when you are in the middle, it is so hard to find the way out! I am on kind of a campaign to tell the truth about what it means to be fully human; the pretense hurts all of us. People hurt & screw up & disappoint - that is just the way it is. Some people out there have marriages that never hit the low points but that isn't my story, never has been. Things are mostly great but every so often, things go off the rails! I'm kind of a slow learner!
Alexanjb: Your DH's dysfunction might be related to childhood trauma and his guilt & shame might be overwhelming him. What bugs me is that I am the one who looks for ways to make things better and my DH is more likely to give up. Don't get me started on that issue!
I have my eye on a vibrator that Dr. Laura Berman says is the ultimate -- oops, there I go again. I bet there are some great threads on sex and BC - maybe I should start one and quit hijacking this thread with TMI stuff! I don't intend to offend anyone, but sex is a normal part of who we are.
Susan, that is what you get for reading this forum at work! Better your monitor than your paperwork . . .just be glad I deleted a lot before I posted! Ha ha . . too bad we can't all get together . . . that would be a FUN event!
Carberry - yes, great exercise!
C8ndygrl1: Taking control is a great aphrodisiac for both partners but you have to be sure not to look for ways to be hurt - it can be a vicious cycle like I said above; I've seen myself do that over & over and I should know better; old patterns are hard to break.You have to find ways to take the pressure off both of you. I like wearing stuff that covers up a bit; I feel more sexy that way. You have to be comfortable and somewhat fearless & thick skinned to get through some of the stuck places and if your partner is too deep into their s**t, it isn't easy. Sometimes it is just too much on top of everything else - to taking a break until the energy is there is the way to go.
Grdnslve: So sorry to hear about another delay in your surgery! Is it going to be after the wedding or you don't know yet? It was frustrating to me to have to wait so long; I am still waiting to hear about a cancellation so I can move up my stage 2 surgery.
. . . sorry, I type the way I talk and I can type pretty fast; not necessarily a good thing! Thank goodness I go back to school in the fall . . . way too much time on my hands!
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treesprite Vibrator recs? Please share! I'm always looking for "good toys". I've been with my husband for 25 years, we love to keep it exciting and new.
I already shared my story about sex the first time post DIEP and pasty shopping. I'm not afraid of TMI (nor of most things)
Oh, and share the pineapple with your hubby. It makes his "output" taste better.
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Notafraid...OMG...hahahah, I was JUST about to write that...too funny.
I think this is the best, most hilarious and open thread on here...love it.
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omg.....did i miss something in health class?????
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Thanks for the insight Treesprite, hopefully you are right and the situation will resolve itself. In the meantime..........I wouldn't mind a rec on the toys either! Guess I can google Dr. Laura Berman...AND unless someone complains I don't see why you need to start another thread, we are a good/fun/supportive group and its not like we get off topic ALL the time more like a segue (or two).
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I am off to the store to buy pineapple! Hope he likes it!
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supposedly the aphrodite model is a sure thing and her web store is a safe place to shop; my DH says go for it, but it is pricey . . . or maybe priceless?
It took me being fearless to move things forward with my DH - challenging, but worth it and not a quick resolution. Life is much lighter these days, no elephant (or lack of one??) lurking in the room . . . ha ha . . . He has a day off during the week and we have a standing date, no matter what! It was crazy at first all the ways each of us tried to sabotage things to avoid feeling rejected. Setbacks happen. A lot of it has been my persistence and refusal to accept the status quo.
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