Dr Oz and Alternative Medicine site

Aren't we all here because we had BC? I am assumming that as a group we are amazingly resourceful and eager to find what will work best for US as individuals and collectively to slay the BC beast or keep it from our doors. Since so much depends on our individual genetics and the particular type of BC we had, no one protocol will fit all. Traditional, alternative, complementary...who the heck knows which cocktail will work, I just hope each of us finds the one that does for us. Merilee is right, there is no need for the anger and attacks from anybody. Sometimes we get emotional when giving our sides but it is always just our opinion. Nobody has all the answers or even the right answers when it comes to BC. All is just educated guesses. I say pooh on going blindly what a doc tells me and poo on going blindly what the opposite says to do. We all have our minds and our hearts. How about we use both to really help each other out?

(getting off my soapbox for now)

Have a good Monday

asschercut, your posts deserve to be reported because they are an attack on another member, but I think it's better to let them stand so others will know how to deal with you.  The folllowing statements are true IMHO.

 "Why don't more doctors use alternative medicine - Because it doesn't work!!!!!"

"WOM: Your time might be better spent researching the success of chemo/Herceptin for stage of cancer, instead of wasting your time trying to find the miracle alternative."

"Seems like all the crazies and attackers are from the alternative side IMHO-probably because they are scared they've done the wrong thing and are very defensive."

NO BULLYING, am reporting posts above

Luan, I'm not bullying anyone.  Go ahead and report them.  They break no rules and you will get your hand slapped by the mods.

Blue, wouln,t u just love to slap me but it aint YOUR PREROGATIVE, now get busy and look that up

I may have missed something but I don't think anyone here is substituting baking soda for other treatments, and its certainly not a harmful thing for people to do.  I reacted on the other thread to what i thought (and still think) were fraudulent posts but I don't see any harm in woman taking baking soda and honey.  And I really think we shouldn't engage in any name calling for folks who are trying such things.  I don't see any harm.

And in general I think most of the women who are pursuing complimentary approaches are also taking traditional and just looking for ways to augment and we should give them the space to do it in.   And many of the women pursuing purely alternative have very early stage disease and there's probably no harm there either.  I do get very concerned about women who have aggressive or advanced disease who are going purely alt, and will say so, but name calling has no place here.

 But I also have to say that some of the alt women have a hair trigger when it comes to things like "BULLYING"  and "hate speech."  Going over the top with a reaction just fans these flames.  And I've had posts where I wasn't disagreeing with anyone perceived as BULLYING just because I've been put in one camp or another.  Really, everyone needs to chill.

I very much doubt your French is more eloquent than your English. BTW u mispelled crap in one of ure threads calling it CARP, LoL



On the phone so " u" means "you", just in case...

I was watching Dr. Oz last week with this thread in mind and found him informative and entertaining.  As many members of the audience were clearly being educated about their health and wellbeing, along with the TV audience at home, I think he's doing a great job.  Most people just don't know enough about how their bodies work or how to care for themselves, as they tend to just leave it to their doctors.  I think it's empowering to have that knowledge and it saves people from making mistakes with their health. Good for him.

Back to Dr Oz....I find the visualizations that he uses to teach about things at a cellular level interesting, informative and amusing.  I choose to pass on things that don't interest me and do further research on the ones that intrigue me.  I don't expect anything more from a tv show than to present possibilities that could help keep me healthy.  I will choose what to do with that information.

I like Dan the Man, Life Regenerator, but he put out a video back in July that was most offensive to people with cancer, especially BC.  It's possible he apologised afterwards and I didn't see it as I couldn't watch his videos for a while after that.  

Okay, just watched the one I linked above.  I can understand what he was trying to get across even though I think he has simplified the disease quite a bit.  I can also see why some would take offence to his comments but I just see it as his view of bc with some good points to pull out of it all.

Thenewme, I was gouged by the "alternatives" about 12 yrs. ago for my PD.  I figured I had nothing to lose (PD is not life and death) but it sure hurt my pocketbook and 12 years later I had to undergo DBS surgery. No one has the answers, but when we're talking about cancer, best to err on the side of caution and go with what our doctors advise.  I refused chemo, but my cancer is ILC ER+PR+HER-, so my onc wasn't really pushing it.

Eat healthy, exercise and do things in moderation.  

To go back to the discussion about vitamins, supplements, et al.... I learned something very useful from my nutritionist at the beginning of our working relationship.  One of my assignments is to have 3 colors of vegetables on EVERY plate (including breakfast.... ahem, very difficult!), as well as one vegetable that is raw. As our immune system has a lot to do with our gut health (or also stated as the gut is our primary immunity), the raw/cooked combination gives us a different mix of useful enzymes, fiber content, nutritional value, etc.  For that reason, he suggested that I rotate my vegetables during the week..... raw carrots today, but tomorrow will be having raw spinach.

Ladies, this one change alone has dramatically improved my intestinal health. Now, I do take a fair share of supplements, but our goal is to reduce the number of supplements I have to take over time, and allow my body to heal with natural foods. It has been a year since I started visiting the nutritionist, and I am not at the point where I can give up supplements yet (they are kind of a security blanket for me), I am feeling stronger, better and I think I am making progress.  It's really a lifestyle change, but my family reaps the benefits as well, since I am showing them how to incorporate raw vegetables in conjunction with cooked foods.  

So, to keep you posted on my daily colors:

Breakfast:  Spinach with scrambled eggs (ok, only one color-- not too good)

Snack:  Banana, dried apricots, dried prunes, brazil nuts (2) and a few almonds

Lunch:  Lentil soup, sweet potato, mixed greens salad with tomatoes and cucumbers

Snack: TBD in a few minutes!

Dinner: Looking for options on allrecipes.com!!

I already find that my body can't tolerate a lot of the foods that I used to love.  I cannot imagine what would happen if I ate a fast food burger now.  Salty foods are another thing that I no longer tolerate.  I am in awe of what I used to do to my poor body! 

Marianna, Susan, I,m getting great inspiration & motivation from you ! and bonus, great info. Never heard of those guys, will make sure to watch the videos, thanks a bunch )