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  • supersally
    supersally Member Posts: 351
    edited May 2011

    I've also used the Alba brand, both SPF 30 & 45. I didn't find it to be too white, it rubbed in ok. If you go online, there are a lots available.

  • AnneW
    AnneW Member Posts: 4,050
    edited May 2011

    Thanks Peggy and Barbara.

  • marybast
    marybast Member Posts: 138
    edited May 2011

    Wow, this is a great thread, thanks for the info. I used Clinique for years and they say their new products are parabens-free but hard to know what else could cause problems. I've switched to BWC (Beauty Without Cruelty). Anybody know more about them?

  • Valgirl
    Valgirl Member Posts: 187
    edited June 2011

    I am slowly changing all my products.  Read today that my mascara (Maybelline) had parabens in it!  Anyone know of a good mascara?

    Have been using bare minerals makeup for years.  Hope that's ok.  

    It's an ongoing and slow process.   I finally found a shampoo that I like from Andalou.  It suds is good for color treated hair.  I tried Burts Bees and did not like it at all.

  • sdstarfish
    sdstarfish Member Posts: 544
    edited June 2011

    I really like 100percentpure.com.I have a great mascara made of blueberries!

    For Hairspray, I recently found one made of quinoa, believe it or not! I think it's Aubrey Organics.

    Lisa

    www.pinkkitchen.info

  • peggy_j
    peggy_j Member Posts: 1,700
    edited June 2011

    Quinoa???? Is there anything it can't do? ;)  

    Any advice on hair gel? I've got super fine hair. I tried Giovanni Volumizing Styling Gel (too weak) and Alba Strong Hold (too strong). Looking for something just right (I feel like goldie locks)

    BTW, what is everyone doing with their old stuff? I'm tossing mine but it seems wasteful to throw away 1/2 full bottles of shampoos and lotions. I thought about giving it to friends or donating to the homeless shelter, but if I don't think it's safe for me, how can I offer it to someone else? My hubby says that people may buy it anyway, so that shouldn't be a concern.  

    Diagnosis: 2/2011, IDC, <1cm, Stage Ia, Grade 1, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-

  • supersally
    supersally Member Posts: 351
    edited June 2011

    Peggy_j - I discovered a makeup brand called Tarte.  Ulta and sephora both carry it, you can get it online if you don't have a store nearby.  It is free of all the bad stuff.  I have just thrown out the old stuff for the most part.  It is weird to throw it out, but you're right, what else can you do?  No advice on hair gel - no hair ;)  Your DH is right, some people will still choose to buy it.  I am using a mascara that is made from flowers, I don't remember the line but I bought it in a small boutique here ,not sure if widely available.  My eyes water so much from chemo righ tnow I might as well not bother, but I still do.  Health food stores also can be good places to go for healthful cosmetic choices (Whole Foods, Trader Joes, etc).

  • Sherryc
    Sherryc Member Posts: 5,938
    edited June 2011

    For sunscreen I just purchased MyChelle SPF28 from Whole Foods.  It works great for a daytime moisturizer as well. I was actually looking for a morsturizer when the cosmetic person showed this to me and highly recommended it.

  • Valgirl
    Valgirl Member Posts: 187
    edited June 2011

    Love this thread!  I just ordered the mascara from 100percentpure.com.  Thanks sdstarfish!!!

    Slowly getting there.

  • peggy_j
    peggy_j Member Posts: 1,700
    edited June 2011

    Valgirl, I'm like you, slowly changing (more like, changing in fits and starts). I thought mascara was lower risk compared to, say, a cream, but then I saw an article in the freebie magazine from the health food store and they pointed out that it can flake tiny piece that land in your eye. (or for me, smuge under my eye for hours on end. ha) EWG.org's cosmetics database is concerned with mercury is mascara. arg. It never ends but thanks so much ladies for the tips.

    Supersally, thanks for your tips.  I like to check this stuff out in the store, if I can. Thanks for commiserating on my trash-angst.

  • Sherryc
    Sherryc Member Posts: 5,938
    edited June 2011

    I am really enjoying this thread.  I am trying to make changes one step at a time.  Just can't bring myself to through out stuff but when it comes to replacing I am replacing with things that are good for me.  Makeup, bath products and food.

  • Luna5
    Luna5 Member Posts: 738
    edited June 2011

    What is the safest substance for removing make-up?

  • Heidihill
    Heidihill Member Posts: 5,476
    edited June 2011

    I have a friend who uses coconut oil to remove makeup and as a moisturizer. I just bought myself a jar of Rapunzel organic coconut oil and will try it tonight.

  • Sherbear
    Sherbear Member Posts: 215
    edited June 2011

    Was just going to say that Heidihill, it works great and I have combination skin.  :)

  • marybast
    marybast Member Posts: 138
    edited June 2011

    Thanks all, I've ordered 100% Pure's eyeliner and mascara for starters -- what about facial soap after removing make-up? I'm still using Clinique's, don't want anything scented.

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 7,799
    edited June 2011

    i really like coconut oil for makeup remover.  I like it for lots of things.   Some women eat it straight... eek

  • Sherryc
    Sherryc Member Posts: 5,938
    edited June 2011

    SusanK8 where to you get Bentonite clay?  Where I live here in Texas we have a huge clay reserve of it.  It is used in alot of things.  But just curious where you purchase it.

  • asschercut
    asschercut Member Posts: 159
    edited June 2011

    That is a bargain SusanK8.

    I did some research a while back on different coloured clays and their benefits, and decided to use Green clay. I understand it has great health benefits (as does bentonite) and some people ingest it...but that's not for me. I only use it on my face, back of my hands and décolletage. It gets very tingly and feels like you have ice blocks on your skin. I quite like it and use it once sometimes twice a week.

    Some info...

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/233666-health-benefits-of-green-clay/

    Victoria

  • Luna5
    Luna5 Member Posts: 738
    edited June 2011

    Thanks.... I will use my coconut oil.

  • Sherryc
    Sherryc Member Posts: 5,938
    edited June 2011

    I love this thread, just finished rereading it and bookmarked all the different brands and sites that everyone listed.  Had to figure a way to keepup with this info.  I love coconut oil.  I started using it about 6 months ago.  I buy it at the health food store and get the extra virgin cold pressed.  Read that is the purest form.  Love the smell of it.

    Does anyone know a good shampoo to use for hair loss.  Since taking Tamoxifen my hair started thinning out.  I started using Nioxin which I am sure the ingrediants are probably terrible for us, but I felt desparate.  I am also taking 5K Biotin.  Hair loss seems to have slowed down but would like to use a healthy hair product.

  • Sherryc
    Sherryc Member Posts: 5,938
    edited June 2011

    Susan thanks for the information I will give it a try

  • Valgirl
    Valgirl Member Posts: 187
    edited June 2011

    Got the 100Percent pure mascura yesteday and used it today.  Love it.  Smells good too.  They sent samples of body lotion also that smells great!

  • vivre
    vivre Member Posts: 2,167
    edited July 2012

    The best thing we can do to have good skin is from the inside out. Nutrition and high quality supplements are the key.

    I know I have said this before, but be careful about taking the word of the EWG and cosmeticsdatabase. I have not been able to find out where they get their "science" from. They have a lot of misinformation. Some of the stuff they proport is bad is pretty innocuous. What I have been able to find about these groups is that they are political orgs that solicit donations so they can funnel money to lobbyists and buy political power. I cannot believe a word they print at this point.

    That said, I am keeping my skin care very basic. I have been using coconut oil for my skin for a couple of years now, and I love it. Even my french friend was impressed when she visited and said she  forgot her makeup remover. I gave her my coconut oil and she loved it. The only line of skin care that I buy is the Sense line by Usana. There shampoo, conditioner and shower gel is fantastic. I even use the conditioner to shave my legs. My legs end up so smooth. They have a patent on a preservative, no parabens or formaldyhydes. Many companies will say no parabens and use formaldehyde, which is more toxic. Be careful of anything that says it is organic. Who knows what that means. Poison Ivy is organic. And if there is no preservative, how do they keep bacteria from forming? Also, do not buy cosmetics in little pots that you put your hand it. It can cause contamination. Squeeze containers are safer.

    Sodium Laureth sulfate is one of those ingredients that the EWG has vilified that is actually not proven to be any problem. It is used to make soap foamy. Keep in mind that the products that stay on the skin are what we need to be more concious of than those that we just wash with. They do not absorb much.

    I use to go crazy worrying about all this stuff. After reading "Your Skin and You" by Bea Kinnear, I feel much less anxious. She has done a lot of reserach and separates fact from fiction. She talks about how we are scared off of all ingredients, when some just have not proven to be a problem. She also breaks down every ingredient and explains why each is used in cosmetics. It is a very informative book.

  • Jules59
    Jules59 Member Posts: 207
    edited June 2011

    Okay, so what about hair color, not that I have any hair TO color.  There was a report a couple of years ago that hair dye, especially dark colors, contained chemicals that cause cancer.  My DH used to remind me of this every time I would cover my greys. I used a demi-permanent color, specifically Clairol Natural Instincts.

    I remember playing around with henna dyes when I was younger.  They basically did nothing.

  • vivre
    vivre Member Posts: 2,167
    edited June 2011

    This is from the American Cancer Society:

    Bubble, Bubble, Toil and Trouble

    Sodium Lauryl SulfateArticle date: 1998/09/23

    Contrary to popular rumors on the Internet, Sodium Lauryl Sulfate (SLS) and Sodium

    Laureth Sulfate (SLES) do not cause cancer. Both are common ingredients, which create

    foam and bubbles, and are found in most shampoos, cosmetic cleaners, bath and shower

    gels, bubble baths, tooth pastes and mouth rinses. Both compounds are cosmetic

    detergents, which exert emulsifying action, thereby removing oil and soil from the hair and

    skin.

    E-mails have been flying through cyberspace claiming SLS causes cancer and industry

    officials know this product is harmful. One radical e-mail stated, "This substance is found in

    most shampoos, and the manufacturers use it because it produces a lot of foam and it is

    cheap. But, the fact is that SLS is used to scrub garage floors...and is proven to cause

    cancer in the long run."

    A report from an expert panel of the Cosmetic Ingredient Review committee and released by

    the Cosmetic, Toiletry, and Fragrance Association (CTFA) concluded, "On the basis of

    available information...Sodium Laureth Sulfate and Ammonium Laureth Sulfate are safe as

    presently used in cosmetic products."

    "The ingredients have been shown to produce eye and/or skin irritation...in some human test

    subjects; irritation may occur in some users of cosmetic formulations containing the

    ingredients under consideration," the report continued. "The irritation effects are similar to

    those produced by other detergents and the severity of the irritation appears to increase

    directly with concentration."

    A search of recognized medical journals yielded no published articles relating this substance

    to cancer in humans.

    "These rumors on the Internet are absolutely ridiculous. Like many other chemicals, it is the

    manner of usage that is important. As long as you don't rub it all over your body and reapply

    it every hour for 24 hours, it's perfectly safe," said researcher, Keith Green, PhD, DSc, of the

    Medical College of Georgia, who began studying SLS and its compounds in 1982 and

    carried out his work through 1987.

    "We did a study using diluted SLS as an eye drop. We put the test amount on the eye of a

    rabbit and after a certain amount of time we found that SLS got inside the tissues, heart,

    brain, lungs, but in very minute amounts," Dr. Green said. "Second, all of it washed out in 96

    hours."

    He also found SLS behaved differently in younger rabbits than in adult rabbits. "It [SLS] went

    in faster and came out faster. Whatever you place on the eye, only 1/1000 of that amount

    gets inside the eye. So, if you put on one milligram, one microgram goes in," he said. "The

    eye stayed pristine. There was no redness and no irritation. These were not toxic effects."

    Dr. Green's research has been misquoted in several e-mail messages and statements. His

    research primarily concentrated on whether SLS was an eye irritant. He did not study

    whether or not SLS causes cancer and is not aware of any studies in this area at this time.

    Sodium Laureth Sulfate has several names: Sodium Dodecyl Polyoxyethylene Sulfate,

    Sodium Lauryl Ether Sulfate, Sodium Lauryl Ethoxysulfate and Sodium Polyoxyethylene

    Lauryl Sulfate. Ammonium Laureth Sulfate's alternative name is Ammonium Lauryl Ether

    Sulfate. These two compounds have the same general formula but differ in chemical

    properties.

     Debunking the Myth

    ACS News Center stories are provided as a source of cancer-related news and are notintended to be used as press releases.
  • mom2one
    mom2one Member Posts: 138
    edited June 2011

    I like Tarte and Korres for make-up.  Both can be found at Sephora.  I don't know who else has them.  I also got a natural deodorant from Sephora that I like better than any I have tried.  It is from LaVanilla Laboratories. 

  • Jules59
    Jules59 Member Posts: 207
    edited June 2011

    SusanK8, a dark semi-permanat dye is what I used to use.  I may have to  reconcile myself to the idea of grey hair.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2011

    I second the question about hair color. I too have some pesky grays and right nowusing a mixture of henna and herbs. What a pain! Difficult to apply and have to leave it in for hours. I am wondering if using hair color for 10 min once a month (120 min/year) is all that bad??

    A couple of product recommendations also, Devita solar protective moisturizer is a good daily moisturizer for the face with SPF 30. CSI rose hip facial cleanser. And I like Jane iredale eyeshadow and lipgloss. Maia's minerals also have great mineral eyeshadows, available in pressed form.

  • mdg
    mdg Member Posts: 3,571
    edited June 2011

    I also recently bought some Tarte eyeshadows from Ulta.  I really like them.  I have not tried any of their other make up yet.  I have been using Physician's Formula Organic Wear for a few things (tinted face mosturizer with SPF in it, powder, blush, eyeliner and mascara) which you can find at CVS, Rite Aid, Target...etc.  I started there because I did not know where to find stuff.  The mascara actually worked well for me during chemo and now right after chemo because it comes off super easy with just a little water (or crying if you are still in the BC crying phase....).  This made it easy to wear mascara that was aluminum and paraben free without tugging on lashes while trying to keep them through/after chemo.  I am using Aveda (which is not organic) for concealer, some eye shadow, bronzer, eyeliner and lipstick.  I need to check out some of these other brands you ladies have mentioned...thanks so much!  I especially need sunblock since summer is here!  I am bummed about the hair dye.....come on!  I can't go gray the rest of my life!  I kept my hair with cold caps during chemo and am in desperate need of a root touch up (2 inch roots).  I was thinking about trying a non amonia/no peroxide gentle color.....don't know what to do. 

  • Sherryc
    Sherryc Member Posts: 5,938
    edited June 2011

    If Formaldehyde is in products would it be listed as another name?  If so what would it be? Trying to read labels and replace my old products.

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