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  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited May 2011

    Oh, Isabella, That sucks. Having all that crap rain down really stinks. WOW, 2,600 for a dog!!! Sorry maybe it is me but I get my pets from the pound. The weather here is the norm for summer...hot. Fortunately, on the beach we have 10+ MPH wind and it never goes above 94. Still...hot.

    Love you gals!

  • Elisimo
    Elisimo Member Posts: 1,601
    edited May 2011

    3jays - love the doggies.

    Isabella - I know what you mean about finishing a knitting project.  I still have to finish the baby blanket for my new grandchild that is due the last week of July!  I am with BarbaraA, I do not think I would ever pay that much for a dog.  I get mine from the animal shelter or in the case of Daisy from my DD#1.

  • momoftwo526
    momoftwo526 Member Posts: 151
    edited May 2011

    Well, Tuesday's appointment was actually pretty amazing.  May I say that I feel lucky in a way?  My breast Dr. is the director of the Beaumont Troy (MI) Comprehensiive Breast Care Center.  All of the people on my "team" are amazing.  I spend 2 hours with the Dr. and the oncology nurse going over my diagnosis, what it meant, what all of my options were, what would happen next and so on.  They answered all of my questions.  They have a cancer center across the street that I have access too also which includes a library, a nutrutionist and a complete support center.  They take care of scheduling everything, all I have to is show up for my appts.  They are very thorough.  My options are:  1) additional surgery to remove additional breast tissue around where the tumor was to get a clear margin and to also have a sentinal node biopsy.  This would be followed with 5 to 7 weeks of radiation and then a regime of cancer preventing drugs for 5 years.  2) Right breast mastectomy, sentinal node biopsy, (with or without reconstructive surgery) 5 years or more of cancer preventing drugs.  3) Bilateral breast mastectomy, sentinal node biopsy, (with or without reconstruction), and possibly a regime of cancer preventing drugs. Chemo will depend on results of the sentinal node biopsy.

    Before I make a final decision, I will have an underarm ultrasound, bilateral MRI, blood tests and chest x-rays and meet with the plastic surgeon and the radiation oncologist. These appointments have already been set for June 6 and 7.  I have met with my primary care Dr., and the nurse practitioner at my place of work.  They both think that with my family history, and my personal history, that option 3 is what they would go with.  That is also the direction I am leaning in right now too. 

    The only thing I am upset about right now (other than having cancer in the first place) is that my boss -- well meaning as it was, announced to our entire staff that I had breast cancer and her boss -- our director -- decided to announce it at the extended staff meeting so everyone in the place knows what is going on.  Everyone has an opinion.  I was not ready for this at all.  I figure it is water under the bridge, so there is nothing I can do about it and I believe her intentions were good, but I think it should have been up to me as to when or if to say anything.  I had only told her and the 2 people who overheard me talking on the phone when I got the diagnosis.  I talked to our onsite nurse practitioner and she agreed that this was inappropriate.  She said that once I come back after what ever surgery I have, she will talk to them about my need for as much privacy as possible and with ask them to not ask a lot of questions and so on.  Believe me, every one has an opinion and they don't seem to mind sharing it, and there are even some who kind of brush it off like it is no big deal.

    I want to say that I am happy to have found this group. I have read many of the posts and I think you are an amazing bunch of women. I know you all understand what I am going through and it is an amazing feeling to be able to discuss things with others who have or are going through the same thing I am. This is a life changing event and I know you all get that.

     Thanks! And while my screen name is momoftwo526, I do have a real first name which is Phyllis.  I don't mind being on a first name basis with you all.

    Phyllis

  • chrissyb
    chrissyb Member Posts: 16,818
    edited May 2011

    Wow Phyllis, I'm so glad you got to spend the time needed with the BS (Breast Surgeon) and the Onc Nurse and get all your options laid out before you and all your questions answered.  That makes all your decisions so much easier..............good luck with whatever you decide and we are definitely here for you.  I really feel for you re the announcement at work.....yes I would agree, quite an inappropriate thing to be done, but I'm sure it was done purely out of concern for you and where you're at at the moment.  Sometimes well meaning people do really inappropriate things.  We all have been on the receiving end of others opinions and most just smile, say thank you and change the subject or answer them with a banal answer.  My favourite is 'I'm fine" said with a smile and change the subject.  Most, and I only say most people get the message very quickly and stop asking.

    Marianne....Celebrating here!!!! You will sure know you have a babe in arms with that little (big) girl!  I just love her name....soooo pretty!  Congratulations Grandma!!!

    Isabella, I hadn't heard about the eruption but there again, I don't watch the news very often either.  Hope the ash doesn't disrupt things too much.  How exciting to finally be able to move into your new bedroom and with all new furniture too!  It almost makes you feel like you have moved house without all the inconvenience.  That little Chihuahua sounds absolutely darling.  I just love tiny dogs........my little Tinkerbell used to fit in my pocket but she's a little too big and too old for that sort of thing now.

    Alyson enjoy your retreat and we'll see you when you get back.....we'll miss you!

    Tek, Yay!!!!!!   A bit of happy dancing happening here!!!   Yahooo!!!

    Lisa, I love that yellow rose!   Such soft form.  Unfortunately, my roses are now in hibernation and getting ready for their winter prune so I really get a good showing of flowers next spring.......bring it on!

    Amyjo, your lilies are lovely, thanks.  I'm so glad that the storms passed over and every one was kept safe.  I think I would be terrified of living where those storms hit but I guess each country has it's own bad weather to content with.....it's just what we get used to.

    Barbe, hoping the bladder relaxant works for you and gives you some relief.  Don't you just hate it when you are on the hunt for reasons and you just get more questions?

    Dragon never feel guilty about how you feel, we all carry a burden no matter what stage we are.

    3jays loving your ‘kids' doing there little dance!  Are you feeling any better?  Sure hope so.

    I'm home again, thank goodness but, I have to return to the city in two weeks.  The visit to the LE clinic went well and I now know what sleeve I require to help keep things from progressing too fast.  Unfortunately the clinic was out of stock of the one I needed so I have to wait until I return........(sigh)  such is life.

    Love n hugs to all!  Chrissy

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2011

    Phyllis,  So glad you have gotten the wheels turning and have some options and are working with a good team.  I hate making decisions, but at the same time like being given a choice and having some say in the process rather than just being told we HAVE to do this.  I think your boss was way out of line, but as you said it is water under the bridge now.   I have never kept my BC a secret, but still like to pick and choose whom I tell.  There is unfortunately still a huge stigma that goes with the word cancer and I don't like the way I see people's eyes change in the way they look at me after I use the big C word. 

    You will find a lot of support and information from the threads and make a lot of new friends, all of whom know exactly where you are coming from. 

    Mariane,   Where are the proud grandma baby pics? 

    AmyJo, Barbe and 3jays....hope you are all pain free soon.

    Teklya and everyone with good news, congratulations if I have not said it before.

    And Chrissy, did you ever get the passport going?  I am glad you are getting your sleeve.....mine is 21 yrs old and has served me well. 

    Hope you all have a nice holiday weekend for those of you who celebrate it....it's only in the US right?  I get confused on what we celebrate where.  My Dad's 89th birthday is on Monday so we will be celebrating that.  He said when he was a little boy, he always thought the hooplah and parade were for his birthday....that was before they started messing with holidays and making things fall on a Monday so as to get an extra day off...but this year Memorial Day is back to actually being on his birthday and believe me he is getting like a little kid again when it comes to his birthday. 

    I am going to take a pic of the pile of hair that is in my sink this morning....find it amazing how so much can come out and I still look like I have a full head of hair....the dark stuff that was  underneath seems to be coming out more than the gray for some reason.  It is about time to go looking for headgear since I gave all mine away from last time....really don't want to go the wig route again.  

  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited May 2011

    Welcome, Phyllis. A lot of stuff in such a short time!

    I hope everyone has a lovely holiday weekend. Chrissy, this weekend is our Memorial Day weekend where we memorialize our fallen soldiers of all wars. I am headed to the pool in a couple hours followed by heading to a beach bar to see DH's band play. I will post some pix if I get any good ones.

  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited May 2011

    Aw Marybe, we cross posted. Sending hugs for your hair. Maybe it will just get thin. You never know! Can't wait until September.

  • chrissyb
    chrissyb Member Posts: 16,818
    edited May 2011

    Barb we celebrated and remember ours on Anzac Day which is the 4/25.  Enjoy your long weekend!

    Marybe, (((((hugs)))))) on the hair loss.  Yup to your question re trip.....all is underway and beginning to come together.  Waiting on the money to come through and then I'm off to book the ticket.......I'm coming!!!   never fear,   the only thing to stop me is being in hospital and that ain't going to happen.....so, USA....here I come!!!

    Love n hugs.  Chrissy

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited May 2011

    Chrissy, if you're coming that far, why don't you do the hop-skip-and-a-jump to Canada???? Puleeeze come and visit me????

    We had our long weekend last Monday - Victoria Day (Queen's birthday) My DHs birthday is May 24th, so I'm sure he used to think the fireworks were for his day, too!

    Marybe, less heat on your head for summer? Less product required? I'm trying to put a good spin on this, but it does suck for you. I'm so sorry you are going throuh this yet again!

  • chrissyb
    chrissyb Member Posts: 16,818
    edited May 2011

    Barbe, I would love to, but would you have any idea how much a ticket from New York to Toronto would be?   Just a ball park figure so I can maybe work out if it's possible.

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited May 2011

    Probably about $100!!! We're not that far!! My kids drove to Ground Zero one Sunday just to see it.

  • chrissyb
    chrissyb Member Posts: 16,818
    edited May 2011

    If that's the case I see no problems then.  Does Toronto have one or more airports and if yes, which would be most convenient for you?

  • chrissyb
    chrissyb Member Posts: 16,818
    edited May 2011

    I have a feeling that my holiday is growing substantially.  The original plan was three weeks, but it's now beginning to look more like six!

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited May 2011

    We have three airports - Buttonville, Island and Pearson. Any of them would be close enough!! Wouldn't that be too cool?????

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited May 2011

    Your best pricing would be WestJet into the Island airport!!

  • chrissyb
    chrissyb Member Posts: 16,818
    edited May 2011

    Thanks Barbe for the info, I'll add it to my plans and see what happens when I go to book the ticket.......I'll keep you in the know.  Thanks for the invite!

  • Elisimo
    Elisimo Member Posts: 1,601
    edited May 2011

    Barbe - why don't you join some of us at Shell Knob, MO the last week of September?  Some of us will be meeting at Marybe's Uncle Bill's cabin on Table Rock Lake for a few days of fun and just getting to know each other better.  I am sure there is enough room for you to come too.  I am not sure who all is coming, but I do know BarbaraA, Marybe, Chrissy and I will all be there.  Who else is joining us Marybe?

    Phyllis - you are welcome to come too if you are able, just get infromation from Marybe by clicking on her name on one of her posts and then send her a Private Message using the link that will be on the upper right side of her profile page that pops up.  Looks like you have gotten a lot of information and options to choose from.  Know that we are all here for you no matter what you decide to do. We do have fun and give each other a lot of love, encouragement and support here. So if you have anything to share or want to say this is a safe place to say it.  Good, Bad or Ugly we all understand whatever emotions you are having and will love you through the Bad and Ugly and laugh with you through the Good. 

  • dragonflymary
    dragonflymary Member Posts: 356
    edited May 2011

    BarbaraA--thanks for the travel info re:  Florida.  Would love to come down there when money allows!  Phyllis--I just can't believe your boss announced that to the whole company!  That was so unprofessional.  When my DH had cancer I worked at our health plan and people I didn't even know knew all about his case.  It was pretty uncomfortable. 

    Don't give anyone any information until you're ready to share.  I found that people didn't want the real story, as that scares them to death.  I'm sort of a storyteller and like to go into great detail about everything so I have to watch it.  Cancer is a big word and most people are either afraid (wimps!) when they hear it or (the worst) have some philosophical opinion.  Can't tell you how many New Age remedies I had recommended.  My sister-in-law thought I should take vinegar and baking soda and it would go away.  I know she meant well but I just didn't want to hear something like that when I was getting ready to have a mastectomy.

    The other thing, people who tell you that if they ever get cancer they don't want any treatment, they just want to die naturally.  So many people who've never been sick a day in their lives just know all about how THEY would deal with cancer.  Yeah, sure! 

    One good thing that cancer has given me is the permission to "filter" input.  I also now filter people I feel are going to add in any way to the stress.  I find I'm a lot less combative and just don't even want to engage people who have some kind of treatment they want to push on me.  I used to argue about stuff like the scientific method and clinical research.  But the truth is if a conversation is going to take a lot of energy out of me, I just don't want to talk in the first place.  I value my time much more than I did before and I don't want to spend it angry or stressed out. 

    I really think I'm happier now and that my vision is clearer than before.  If there's a day when I feel good I try to make it a point to enjoy it.  Also, I appreciate the present now and spend less time on the past.  I don't listen to as much news as I once did.  Yelling at the TV is not going to keep people from killing each other.  I'm Irish and we're pretty hot headed so I'm learning to "cool off!"

    And since this post is already too long, I might as well make it longer.  The other thing--before I got the cancer I had a stroke the year before.  It wasn't catastrophic--just right leg weakness--but it did change my brain around for the positive.  It sort of puts you in touch with a part of the brain that is less verbal and more sensory.  (It was on the left side).  I know after that and the cancer I am really enjoying things like the visual arts and gardens and music a lot more.  I was just so busy thinking before that I never slowed down enough to be in the present!

    Sorry this turned into a kind of sermon but it is possible to turn some of this darkenss into light.  That may be the only way to get through it.  Dragon (first name Lynda--from Oregon).   

  • Elisimo
    Elisimo Member Posts: 1,601
    edited May 2011
    Phyllis - I agree with Lynda, I have learned to filter people and some people that I used to think of a friends are just too draining on my energy with all their suggestions and how different people they know have done with cancer treatments and things that I should or should not do.  Now I am polite to them, but do not engage them if conversation and if they start on the cancer subject I either change subjects or just tell them I am tired and need a nap and walk away.  For the time being just concentrate on yourself and your health and learn to be a little selfish with your time and energy.  As time goes along you will quickly know which relationships are toxic to your health and which ones truly care and are there to help.  I did find I had more of the ones that were there to help than I ever imagined.  I just had to learn that it was okay to ask or help.  {{{{{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}}}}} and love to you.
  • dragonflymary
    dragonflymary Member Posts: 356
    edited May 2011

    Amyjo, all that is so true!  People I never imagined would care came out of the woodwork and did me tremendous good.  This is a true learning experience and I feel so much wiser!

  • Elisimo
    Elisimo Member Posts: 1,601
    edited May 2011

    Lynda - there is a lot of good that seems to come from BC and a new awareness of what and who is important.  It is really a shame that you have to get BC or some other tramatic event to make you realize that.  I don't know that I feel any wiser, but I do have a better since of who I am and what things are of true value.  It was really hard for me to learn to be selfish sometimes, but I have realized that is something that I needed to learn so that I can focus on the people and things that are important.  It really has allowed me to be more generous with those I care about.  No has turned out to be a wonderful word.  

  • dragonflymary
    dragonflymary Member Posts: 356
    edited May 2011

    Boy is that true--I love my new word "No!"  Lynda

  • 3jaysmom
    3jaysmom Member Posts: 4,266
    edited May 2011

    hey ladies, im reading, not much to say tonight, except Chrissy; adding to the trip again hahaha    3jays

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited May 2011

    I liken our situation to flight in a commercial jet. The flight attendant teaches us to put OUR oxygen mask on first so that we are able to help others. If we tried to help our kids first, we could pass out from lack of oxygen and then no one is helped. So take care of yourself first! Makes sense.

    I am very, very seriously hoping I can go to Uncle Bills cottage! Marybe has communicated with me and I want to go. So very, very cool. Not a cruise or Vegas, but a calm serenity which is what I'd prefer. I went to the Rocky Mountain School of Photography in Missoula, Montana 4 years ago. What a great way to return to Montana!

  • chrissyb
    chrissyb Member Posts: 16,818
    edited May 2011

    Barbe, if you could come that would be fabulous!!!  I am so looking forward to meeting a lot of the girls! I'm like a kid waiting for the birthday party......lol   Everyday is a day closer....Yay!!!!!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2011

    Well, I'm home for about an hour and back to the baby.  I am trying to fit in time to join photobucket to get Olivia's picture on there.

    My youngest had a procedure done on Thursday so I've been with her too.  Whew! I'm starting to feel it but enjoying every minute.

  • chrissyb
    chrissyb Member Posts: 16,818
    edited May 2011

    Mazie, could you give the little one a cuddle from me please?   I just loooooove babies......they smell wonderful and are sooooo soft!

  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited May 2011

    Marianne, babies are just the best aren't they?

  • Elisimo
    Elisimo Member Posts: 1,601
    edited May 2011

    Mazie - Take care of yourself first so that you will have the energy and stamina to just love on Olivia Anne. Then you can take care of the other family members if they really need your help.  I found that my kids are all old enought to pretty much take care of themselves.  Occassionally the do just need Mom to be there, but that is not really very often.  But then my youngest is 37!

    Barbe - so hoping you can goin us in MO (Missouri) at Uncle Bill's place.  We will have a lot of fun just getting to know each other.  If at all possible please come.  I like your comparision to the commercial jet trip. 

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited May 2011

    Yikes! good thing you told me Missouri...I was thinking Montana!!!

    Babies don't smell like babies anymore because they don't use baby powder anymore!! Apparently it has been a factor in asthma!!!!! I don't think so.....................do you?

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