February 2011 chemo pals

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  • EmilyInOntario
    EmilyInOntario Member Posts: 626
    edited May 2011

     Congratulations to those of you who are also done chemo! And so sorry to hear that some of you are dealing with exta issues on top of all this...

    I'm wondering if any of you have some advice. I am 10 days post my last chemo. I can't eat much of anything because my taste buds are so altered everything I try to eat makes me feel ill. I have lost about 10 pounds in 2 weeks. I cook for my DH and force myself to eat small amounts but really I just don't want to eat anything. Have any of you experienced this and did you find anything that you COULD eat? I am existing on chocolate milk I think.

  • Melanie_Ann
    Melanie_Ann Member Posts: 414
    edited May 2011

    Jean- I'm moving onto Radiation but I don't start until the week of June 20th I think. I asked for an extra week off because it will be my birthday week and I just wanted to enjoy it and relax. Plus, I'm moving for RADs cuz I live in a rural area so I just wanted some extra time. We'll all have to compare notes. I feel like I have so much to learn again...ugh.

    And I can't remember who was in pain but try Claritin. It has helped me with all that pain. =)

  • christina1961
    christina1961 Member Posts: 736
    edited May 2011

    Emily in Ont,

    I have also encountered the loss of appetite up to 10 days post chemo - but so far I can force myself to eat certain things. Seems like sweet things taste especially bad to me but usually my acid reflux rears its head during that time too so I am limited to bland stuff like rice pudding - don't think I will ever eat it again once I'm finished with chemo.  Anyway, two people who have been through this before have told me that it helps to drink smoothies or protein shakes with a straw - the straw gets the food past the screwed up taste buds.  I haven't tried it yet because I eat so much following the 10 days with limited appetitie that I have actually gained three pounds over the course of my chemo, but I may try it this time.

    I have had a horrible time with nausea the last two treatments and have increased my prilosec (after asking the oncologist) to 3-4 daily.  I think the acid reflux has caused some of my nausea.  I get chemo again tomorrow and then just one more on June 13th.  YAY!!!  I cannot wait to get through the chemo. 

  • christina1961
    christina1961 Member Posts: 736
    edited May 2011

    Coffeegirl -

    (Now there's a nickname I relate to!!) - I have bone pain following each treatment and asked for oxycodone - I can't remember the strength but I take half the recommended dose as needed for about 7 days following each treatment.  I also use heating pad on my shoulders,upper back.  I think the taxotere in the TAC causes muscle spasms because sometimes my feet get muscle cramps following treatment. I also get very depressed for about 10 days (I think from the chemo) - so I try to prepare myself for that, too. 

    I am seeing a physical therapist due to numbness in my left hand- got some good tips from him.  He recommends "strategic rests" - limit naps to 15 minutes; no TV or computer within an hour of bedtime - and take 20 minute strategic rests during the day with deep breathing, relaxation.  He said it is important to keep the days and nights from getting turned around.  Due to my existing upper back problems, I am supposed to do the rests on a hard surface with a firm pillow under my neck.  I'm going to try it this time and see if this helps me recover faster.

  • Melanie_Ann
    Melanie_Ann Member Posts: 414
    edited May 2011

    I also did TAC. Do you get the Nuelasta shot afterwards? I think that, along with the Taxotere, caused most of my pain. And if I take Claritin the day of chemo and for about 3 days afterwards, I have no pain or very limited. I stopped a day short this time and felt more pain than the past few chemo cycles.

    And I also had muscle cramps. Are they checking your electrolyte levels? My potassium was low several times and had to supplement. However, I also felt like every muscle was just jumpy for a few days anyways. It was the strangest feeling. I hope you get some relief! 

  • JeanH
    JeanH Member Posts: 281
    edited May 2011

    For pain I also found the clarita helped, but I did end up getting an rx for Tylenol 3 which I used in the evening if my hips and knees hurt too much to sleep. I used Aleve during the day and it lasted about 6hours instead of 12. I also took prilosec as my stomach felt irritated, not sure if it was pain meds, chemo or nuelasta, probably a combination of all. I know this last round was easier and I did not have the nuelasta shot. I had some knee and hip paid before this started so was somewhat used to it, definitely preferred to EC. One od the nurses told me that the jumpy muscles/restles legs were a side effect of either the c or the taxol----can't remember what one I was on at the time.



    The numbness and tingling are very weird feelings. For me mainly pinkies and toes but it varies. Try bananas to keep up the potassium.



    Jean

  • pejkug3
    pejkug3 Member Posts: 902
    edited May 2011

    We're waiting for severe weather to blow in in my neck of the woods.  But the weather was gorgeous all weekend!!  I hope you guys have been enjoying your weekend.

    A big THANK YOU to everyone who expressed concern regarding my MIL.  My DH is with her this weekend and we're all praying and hopeful that the chemo will buy her some time.  I do worry about her - she's kind of fragile.  I worrying about whether she'll be able to withstand the ups and downs of chemo.  But I guess she really has no choice...

    I'm on Day 3 past TCH #5.  Yesterday was a challenge.  I even had to break out the Compazine.  Go figure.  I think it's the heat though.  It's not really "hot", but humid and I've been too cheap to turn on the AC.  Well, that all changed today.  I turned on the AC and I cleaned out my fridge, the kitchen and I'm heading to do the bathroom once I get through with this post.  :)  It was just too much for me to deal with chemo and humidity.  ;)

    Alison - where are you?  Hope you're feeling well this weekend!  We're almost there - just ONE more!

    Rads were discussed with my onc this week but we postponed scheduling with the RO until I know whether I'll be doing rads locally or in Des Moines were my MIL is.  I'd like to do them face down if I can, but I'd be willing to bet that my local facility doesn't have that capability.  Des Moines may work out well in that respect.

    OH!  And I finally mustered all my courage and asked my onc about the crazy stuff going on with my eyes.  He said that in order for a brain met to produce the papilledema (swelling) that I'm seeing in my eyes, it would be the size of a grape.  And if I had mets that large, I would have terrible headaches, vomiting and probably wouldn't be able to stand.  He also added that in HER2+ patients, it's very unlikely for them to have mets while in active treatment.  Additionally, he said that the eye doctor can see a very large portion of the brain when they dialate the eye.  He would see something unusual.

    I have to admit, the skeptic in my still worries.  But my eye doctor has 22 years experience, my onc has 27 years experience.  I guess I should trust them.  I hate the rollercoater that BC has put me on.  But I'm thankful for good news.

    Who is going into the chemo chair this week?  Who is finishing up?

  • dragonfly1
    dragonfly1 Member Posts: 766
    edited May 2011

    Pejkug Good to hear from you again, we've all been thinking about you. I hope you feel better. I'm still in the grips of TCH#5 too and it just won't let go...I'm on day #12 and still don't feel so good-I'm usually much better by now. Good news on your eyes-hope that calms your fears!

    My last chemo is on May 31st, rads simulation is on June 16th, start rads on June 20th

  • christina1961
    christina1961 Member Posts: 736
    edited May 2011

    Melanie Ann,

    I do get Neulasta - I haven't tried the Claritin - mainly because when I took it pre BC it kept me awake at night - but that probably wouldn't be an issue the first few days after chemo because I stay pretty sleepy.  I agree - I think the Neulasta and taxotere have produced the muscle and bone pain - and I blame the Adriamycin for the nausea.  Well, time to take my second dexamethasone dose - then I'm going for a walk to calm down!!!Embarassed (That's what my face looks like from the dexamethasone BTW!!)

  • LisaGH
    LisaGH Member Posts: 242
    edited May 2011

    For me I have tried both Claritin (and used Zyrtec one cycle my MO said either was ok) and it does help with the pain. Hot baths help me- and actually I bought a hot tub last week. It was a purchase I had thought about for years. We poured a pad for one when we moved in our house 7 years ago, but built a swimming pool instead.

    I was in the middle of joint pain & numbness pretty bad this cycle post TCH 5. The hot tub has been wonderful. I was actually ready to take something for the pain- at times- got into the hot tub instead- and the jets helped so much. It's something I get into daily now. It's helped the pain so much. I also am even thinking once chemo is done- I'll be on Arimidex for 5 years- and that seems to be something to cause bone/joint and other pains too- so I am thinking I'll use it.

    Hope everyone gets some relief. I am getting excited and also dreading TCH last TC #6 a week from this coming Wed (6/1). I am so ready to be finished with Taxotere and Carbo. The side effects are so yuck!

    Hope everyone is doing well.

    Lisa

  • jenn_h
    jenn_h Member Posts: 149
    edited May 2011

    coffegirl...nothing really helped my pain around the house, I asked for pasin meds and get oxycontin...Vitamin B complex helps the neuropathy stuff too...sry! I know how you feel!

    Mel-Congratulations! My last taxol is Thur. Yay! to being done...boo thinking ahead to the pain...

    So here's a question...my hair is peach fuzzin' its way in...how long until it reaches a hatless length you think? Unfotunately it seems that it is all white/grey...maybe some blonde in there (wishful thinking)...I'm ok with the hats and scarfs but kind of missing my color...

  • donna661
    donna661 Member Posts: 11
    edited May 2011

    I have had alot of eye problems too.  Went to opthamologist this week and he does not see anything wrong with them.  Had numerous floaters and bright squiggly lines when I was in a bright room or outside when I was on A/C.  That went away after a few weeks post A/C.  Now that I'm on Taxol, I'm seeing other weird stuff in addition to that nasty filmy crap that gets in your eyes caused by chemo. I had a OCT test (optic nerve assessment) this week just to rule out anything going on there. Can't believe all the S/E's chemo causes. Good luck to everybody this week.  Only 4 1/2 weeks left for me ... started in February 2011.

  • Melanie_Ann
    Melanie_Ann Member Posts: 414
    edited May 2011

    Donna- I had those eye problems and mine usually were a prequel to a migraine. I had never had a migraine before but now when I get those floaters, I take some excedrin migraine and it stops them and I usually don't get a headache. I barely had ever had a headache before this. I'm hoping it's just temporary and won't be a problem once my body adjusts back to not being shot up with drugs. =)

    dragonfly-I think I start rads on the 20th as well. I'll find out in a couple of weeks though. I have an appt. with the RO on the 7th of June. 

    Christina- OMG my face was so flushed this last round with chemo. They thought I had an infection. It then flushed again a few days after and everyone thought I was really hot. haha. It's better now, but I'm glad that's over. 

    Yay Jenn! Almost there! I can't wait for my hair to start growing back in. On my head of course. I wouldn't mind if the legs remained hairless but I doubt I would be so lucky. 

  • MamaV
    MamaV Member Posts: 907
    edited May 2011

    Had a tough morning ... tired of looking at a bald head, having to paint on eyebrows and put on fake eyelashes.  Looking and feeling like a freak!  My hair, brows and lashes all started coming back 3 weeks after A/C, and 3 weeks into Taxol.  Now all fell out again.  Just not fair at all.  Feeling emotionally exhausted.  Wanted to stay in bed all day, but got up and went to work.  Cried the whole way there.  This just sucks. 

    July 7th still seems like an eternity away...

    Sorry to be a baby, but only you guys understand ...

    Vicky

  • Melanie_Ann
    Melanie_Ann Member Posts: 414
    edited May 2011

    Sorry you're having a rough day! I've been feeling freakish as well lately. Although I do believe I escaped with a bit of luck. Most of my eyebrows stayed and I only lost bits and pieces of my eyelaashes. It's easier to fill them in than replace them altogether I'm sure. I was kind of excited to see what I would look like bald, back in February. But I'm over it now.  I want my hair back. I want to curl it, wash it, braid it...just have it! It feels like it will be forever until it's long enough though. I finished last week so I'm going to start hoping for sprouts here in a couple of weeks.

    I hope your day is better Vicky! 

  • mamaoftwo
    mamaoftwo Member Posts: 267
    edited May 2011

    Vicky, hang in there.  I know how you feel. I am at work and feel increasingly lethargic and a little depressed about the seemingly endless cancer treatments.  Wish I could stay home and do something physical. On the other hand, being at work is a good distraction.   July 7 will eventually come, I promise you.

     cyclingmama2.blogspot.com
    Diagnosis: 12/15/2010, IDC, 1cm, Stage IIa, Grade 2, 2/11 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-

  • Dogbiskit
    Dogbiskit Member Posts: 23
    edited May 2011

    My lashes and eyebrows are starting to fall out rapidly - had my second of four taxol less than two weeks ago. I've got the gear ready to go but was hoping I wouldn't have to use it :(. I've only tried fake lashes once and it was a disaster. I'm thinking I might wear my glasses instead of contacts until they grow back. In addition to camoflauge it would certainly help with vision because I too am getting the blurries from extra film in my eyes.

  • DivineMrsM
    DivineMrsM Member Posts: 9,620
    edited May 2011

    MamaV please hang in there.  I have felt the same frustrations as you at times.  Now I am looking at just one more chemo treatment at the end of next week and finally feel like there is some light at the end of the tunnel.  You are right, we all understand how you feel right now.  It is like a roller coaster with the ups and downs. Especially with our appearance and how we still try to put our best out there yet sometimes it does seem unfair. Just wanted you to know I'm thinking of you and hope it's soon that you are feeling a bit better. 

  • Kay_G
    Kay_G Member Posts: 3,345
    edited May 2011

    Hi everyone!  Had my first Taxol last Monday and my second Herceptin today.  I was getting the Neulasta while I was on AC and never got bone pain.  I got it from the Taxol last Thursday to Saturday.  I tooked Advil and it helped a lot.  I asked the onc today about taking Claritan with the Taxol too.  She said to go ahead and try it, but didn't think it would work, but report it back to her if it did.  I'll give it a try.  She offered me Vicodin or Oxycodin, but I really don't want to start that if the Advil is helping enough, especially since I already have constipation.  We'll see, only three more to go.  I can do it....I think.  Good luck everyone.

  • charlottesmama
    charlottesmama Member Posts: 250
    edited May 2011

    Hi ladies. It's been a while, I know. Had a rough day today. Walked my kiddo to school, then just had to crash and sleep. Achy and chilled. Just part of the healing process, I know.

    Met with my oncologist on Friday, and agreed to a round of Taxol to snuff out any rascal cells that might be lurking after my surgery (path report was excellent-clean margins, etc.). I'll start Taxol on June 3. 4 rounds every 2 weeks just like AC. I'll probably be the last one here on chemo!

    So, those of you who have done Taxol separate from AC, what have your experiences been? I expect I'll lose my hair again (it's growing in furiously! Eyebrows and lashes too.) It's a drag, but I can live with it. Oncology nurse mentioned tingling finger/toes which you have all mentioned. I think I'll wait on the frozen peas, but she did mention Vit. B complex. It makes me so queasy, so I'll wait on that as well. Bone pain: will Claratin work like it did for Neulasta? I won't be getting Neulasta this time.

    I plan on going back to work the Tuesday following. I just hope I can. Being out of work has been tough financially and spiritually. I love my job.

    I'm thinking of you all. Everyone has had such a different experience.

    Cheers,

    Michelle 

  • dogeyed
    dogeyed Member Posts: 884
    edited May 2011

    CharlottesMama,

    I suppose being exhausted after surgery is normal but frustrating, too.  Bless your heart.  While I'm sorry you gotta have a little more chemo, I'm glad the doc is watching out for you, I'm all for a "cleanup crew."  It's much less awful than AC, but then again, when it decides to twist your femur leg bones and crush your pelvis, welllllllll... but like AC, it takes a few days before it attacks!!  I take prescription pain meds just like on AC.  One of the ladies said she kept her nails real short, so that's what I did, I'm on Taxol #5 and I've still got them.  I have noticed like AC, the Taxol seems to build a little, because this week was my worst.  Me and MamaV will be on chemo until July 7, but I ain't going anywhere becuz I still got surgery and rads, altho I guess I should add forums for those. 

    GG

  • MamaV
    MamaV Member Posts: 907
    edited May 2011

    Michelle - Taxol #6 for me on Thursday - I have been lucky - very little bone pain at all.  (Weekly taxol is milder for some I guess) I didn't have bone pain with the Neulasta either - don't know how I dodged that bullet.  BUT, my hair and lashes/brows started to come back at the beginning but have all fallen out again - cruel. 

    I will be here for the long haul with dogeyed too - rads will follow taxol - I'm already exhausted I can't imagine keeping up with this crap so long!

    We might be the last 3 here - but we will stick together!  :)

    Vicky

  • mamaoftwo
    mamaoftwo Member Posts: 267
    edited May 2011

    Charlottes mama- sorry to hear about the Taxol but you should find it SO much easier than the AC.  No nausea- yay to that.  I have not had any bone pain or finger/toe numbness or really any other side effects besides lower immune system, but I know others have.  I'm swearing by the natural remedies that the sloan kettering naturopath recommended, including Acetyl L-carnitine and vitamin B-6.  Hang in there, I hope it goes by quickly for you.

    Laura

  • Melanie_Ann
    Melanie_Ann Member Posts: 414
    edited May 2011

    Don't worry ladies, I may be done with chemo but I will still be here to support the rest of you through it as well! Then we should all throw a cyber party! More than just chemo, we all started this journey about the same time. It will be nice to stay in touch to support each other through other things besides chemo. I still have rads and tamoxifen on my horizon.

    I hope everyone has a wonderful SE free day. And if not, here's some encouragement to hang in there. The end is in sight! 

  • sukie10
    sukie10 Member Posts: 96
    edited May 2011

    Well, My first taxotere was not at all kind. I'm not willing to say its worse than AC but it certainly wasn't better. The bottoms of my feet felt like I was walking on pieces of broken glass. I didn't take claritan for the bone pain but will follow that advice next time. I'm having hot flashes about every 15 mins. so that coupled with the flu symptoms has not made for a pleasant couple of days. I did use the frozen peas and my fingers were still quite sore, not as bad as my feet though so maybe I'll ice them also next time. I'm on day 7 and am just able to function now. Still having massive waves of hot flashes but I can walk again and have emerged from the curled up fetal position I have spent the last 4 days in. I'm definitely going to require some stronger meds. next time. I have had a dull headache that just won't seem to let go since last Thursday,and a persistant dry cough. I'm going to give the taxotere pain an equal rating to the AC nausea and call this a draw. I still find it hard to believe that this is making us better. Oh well, 3 more times, I've got my big girl panties on and will do it.

    I don't finish up until July 20th. It seemed like it was never going to happen but watching some of you finish up has given me a renewed hope for an end to this ordeal. I'll still have surgery and rads after that but I'm hoping this is the worst of it out of the way.

    Thinking of all of my fellow sufferers. We are making progress together.

  • ruffy
    ruffy Member Posts: 141
    edited May 2011

    Sukie, sorry youre feeling so yuck after your taxotere. I did taxol and it was tough for sure. But the pain will pass.

    I just finished my last taxol today and I'm a huge mixed bag of feelings, mostly feelings of great relief and happiness. I wish we could be finished on the same day but to those that still have treatments, you will and are closer to finishing everyday. And it's tough and not fun but it's saving us and we are strong, brave, kind, fighters.

    I still have quite a journey with surgery and rads left to go so I'll still be around thinking and sending out positive thoughts to you all. You have all really helped me through this and I want you to know how much I appreciate it. <3
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  • dragonfly1
    dragonfly1 Member Posts: 766
    edited May 2011
    Sukie Hang in there...I'm getting 6 rounds of Taxotere and I hate it! I have had miserable side effects and I'm on round 5 right now with number 6 coming up next Tuesday. I can't wait to finish. I have terrible hot flashes as well which has made sleeping very difficult. I ice my nails as well which has seemed to help. I had a terrible headache on the first round but have not had it on the rest-staying VERY hydrated seems to help a lot. I think taxotere is awful so I can relate to what you are going through-it will get a little easier as you learn your specific Tax SEs...wishing you all the best and hoping you feel better soon!
  • Paula66
    Paula66 Member Posts: 1,728
    edited May 2011

    Sukie hang in there.  I know ist ruogh.  I to had entense bone pain.  At ties all I wanted to do was scream and cry.  So thats what I did.  The pain was still there, but I felt better.  I know it sucks that we cant control much of this cancer.  But there are things we can do to get through itl  You are so close and can do it. Take care!

  • MamaV
    MamaV Member Posts: 907
    edited May 2011

    The Taxol Chair awaits me again tomorrow - Lord help me get through this!

  • dogeyed
    dogeyed Member Posts: 884
    edited May 2011

    MamaV, we're the same, it's morning and at 10 a.m. I take my chemo nap.  For last two times I have slept and slept.  And I'm tired today, too.  I'm suppose to write bills and fill out some papera today, and I'm thinking I'll wait until tomorrow, my legs still hurt from last week's infusion.   

    Sukie (and Dragon), hon, I didn't know you were facing Taxatere.  I had a couple chemos that hurt my feet same way, I sat on the side of the tub and let warm/coolish water run over those poor feet.  Pharmacy has "diabetic socks" that are SO soft, good with slippers on cool mornings.  I put a pillow on the couch and eased mine up on it, with a soft comforter under and around my feet.  They just plain hurt so bad.  And yeah, medicine helps some.  GG

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