Charleston Bound, part 2
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Heather, I'm schedule for stage I DIEP with Dr. Kline in Charleston 1 week from now. I'm sooo nervous. Can you tell me what stage one was like for you? Was the pain horrible when you woke up? What was that first week like? Did you have any problems? Can you tell I'm nervous?hahaha.
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I have to admit, I wasn't nervous before my bilateral DIEP. I met Dr. Massey the night before at my preop. After about 2 hrs with her, I felt TOTALLY at ease. I was in surgery for 11 hours. The first 2 days yes, huge amount of pain...I had 4 abdominal flaps taken. I just wasn't prepared for that kind of abdominal pain.BUT, I wouldn't ask for pain meds due to nausea from the long day of anesthesia And nausea meds gave me a terrible headache, so I wouldn't ask for them either.So, alot of it was my fault. But, (as much as it can be) it was a wonderful experience...the staff was great, the hospital was wonderful. I would not hesitate to do it again if I had to. I am SO happy with my breasts. They just feel so natural, and I still don't have nipples. I did develop a seroma on my rt hip, below scar. No big deal.....drained once and never had any problems with it.
Had one hip drain for 7 weeks. Never did get below 50cc, but had it pulled. Then got the seroma.
At the time they are happening, any little issue is "big" and you wonder if you will EVER heal, and get your life back. I'm almost a year out from Stage 1 and 6 mos. from Stage 2, and I couldn't be happier. Nervousness is ok!!
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Thank you, Jacee. It sounds like you're doing great. When you say you had 4 flaps taken, what is that? I guess I never stopped to ask exactly how it's done. I just assumed they cut a big chunk of fat out of your stomach, divide it in half and make two breasts out of it. You were brave not to take the pain meds. I've never had a headache from anesthesia, but I've heard from a lot of people who do. Which did you think was worse, stage I or stage II?
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Hey Brenda!!!! I was thinking about you yesterday. I can't believe it's already next week. Time flies. Girl, when I am 5 days out I am going to have to take Xanax around the clock. I will call your sister next week and check on you. I hope all goes well!!!!
Susan
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Susan - Sorry it took me so long to get back to you. I have friends in town and haven't had a chance to get on. To answer your question, yes, I'd definitely do it again. Dr. Massey even said she was really suprised that my drains were hanging around so long, but that I was apparently just one of those "really juicy" people.
Liz - Spanx for life? I'd have to move. I'm about to lose my mind in these things in this heat and it's only May!
Tina - Glad to see you and hear that things are going so well. I'm so happy for you!
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Susan, the drains are not fun but are necessary. If for any reason you end up with one for awhile you kind of reach a point of tolerance with it. ( at least I did, but I still complained). It's not the thing you want sticking around but you know each day that goes by is a day closer to being drain free! And, the only regret I have is that I didn't do this surgery at the beginning of recon. Instead I went thru implant hell first.
Brenda and Nowords your dates are coming up. Relax and be good to yourselves.
Did anyone take a look at the post I wrote about a compulsive planners guide to free flap? It's buried but I had hoped it might help. ; ) -
Brenda....I wanted to be a size C after my recon. Dr. Massey wasn't sure she could get enough from my abdomen with 2 flaps. So she harvested 4 in case she needed to stack them. Ended up, 2 of them she took she didn't need after all !!! YIPPEE, I got rid of lots of abdominal fat, and got the C cup as well. A flap is the portion of skin, tissue, fat, and blood vessels that are removed. They are kind of removed in sections. The scan you have the day before surgery will give your surgeon a great picture of your blood vessels and they know exactly how to section your flaps. On my cancer side....where I had already had a mast. she used the flap with the abdominal skin. On the other side where I had a prophylactic mast. the day of recon, they left the breast skin.....so the flap skin was removed before the flap was put inside the breast cavity.It is truly amazing science. And PRESTO.....amazing breasts!!
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Brenda....Sorry I forgot your last question. Stage 1 was definitely the hardest. Stage 2 was 1 night in the hospital, one night after in hotel and then flight home.
However, Stage 2 I had a huge amount of lipo to my inner thighs. I woke up and could hardly move my legs...like I'd ridden an elephant for a thousand miles!!!! Couldn't raise my legs, couldn't squeeze my knees together. Had 4 drains. I remember thinking ....THIS is Stage 2???? I thought this was easier??? But as soon as I started moving, the pain decreased greatly. I remember the hardest thing being getting on and off the toilet...trying not to use thigh muscles!!! HAHA try that! I just kinda plopped down with dead weight- HOPING the hospital and hotel toilets could withstand the force!!! BUTTTT, 2 drains were removed before leaving the hospital. Wearing the full length compression garment actually felt wonderful on the lipo areas, and recovery happened very quickly. That's why I say, you just have to struggle through those first days of surgery and after...it's doable ...AND worth it. And even with each person's struggles, setbacks, etc.....they get through it and are so happy to have done it.
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I agree with joni. Even with a lot of lipo, Stage 2 is way easier than Stage 1. Way easier. Lipo causes deep bruising, like you've been in a train wreck, but with water and moving a lot, you'll do fine. Funny, I didn't have drains at Stage 2, but I did at 2B. I guess it all depends on what's done.
Brenda, do a lot of deep breathing now and take a few minutes each day to calm your brain waves with some meditation. If you have an iPhone, get the Brainwaves app. You may want that xanax, though, the day before, and night before!!
Nowords, I can't believe it's finally happening for you! I remember when you first started this journey! You'll love Fairway Hospital. You'll probably be their only patient over the weekend! Please tell dear Marga hello for me!
Got to go vacuum and then head out to the climbing gym. Have a great weekend, everyone. Glad we're still here--I'd hate it if the Rapture had taken folks away before they got their new breasts!
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Joni - Thanks for the laugh this morning re: the controlled fall onto the toilet!
You've all given me a little strength. I'm dreading 1B (scheduled for October 7th in Charleston) and knowing stage 2 is going to be so much easier makes it a little easier to face. Dr. M also says SGAP is much easier and less painful than DIEP, though I'll probably have my drains longer. Since I'm only doing one side, though, hopefully I'll leave the hospital with only one. It's not even really the pain that I'm dreading though, not so much as just being incapacitated and so tired for so long. I just need to keep focused on hopefully being able to finish up the big stuff (first stage 2) in January and being all back together by next spring!
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AnneW - Thanks...I am a bit nervous and just trying to focus on getting things done at home and calm myself. I feel like I have done my homework and am in the best possible hands.
Maybe I should take a break from reading - I love information but now it is making me think too much about complications!
I will try and remind my family to post some news after surgery.
Thanks to all for sharing the ups and downs and practical information. I know that reading on the recon threads helped me make my decision for this surgery, and was the perfect place for me to lurk and post, as I am not much of a group therapy kind of person.
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Brenda, thinking of you...you're almost up!!
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Brenda and nowords, wishing you both strength, courage, faith and healing. You will do great and are in the hands of the best in the world. Have someone post for you and let us know how things are going. You will be so happy when it is over and done with. It is natural to have doubts and the jitters just before surgery. We've all been there and I am sure I can speak for most if not all........we have no regrets. You will love your new look and how the new girls feel once the swelling and bruising goes away and everything settles. You'll be hot!
Hugs to you both, Linda ((*-*))
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Brenda - I guess tomorrow is your scan to prepare for surgery? Wishing you a peaceful nights sleep. All will be well.
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Brenda...Your day is finally here! I will be sending positive vibes your way! We will all be anxious to hear how everything goes. Excited for you and wish you the best!!!!
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Brenda and nowords: Thinking of you this week and also sending positive thoughts your way. Nowords - didn't I see you post that you had a car accident (NOLA thread?) - hope you are OK and you have been able to squeeze some "you" time in before your surgery.
I am doing good here - my wrist/hand still seem a bit swollen/sore to me but the PT took measurements and my non-cancer side was actually larger than my cancer side (would have expected the opposite) - so if this is LE, then it would be very very mild. I'll be getting an off-the-shelf sleeve and hand piece - and will be keeping a very close eye on my arm. I found this PT by going through the LANA recommended therapists - the local gal on their list actually was no longer at our neighborhood hospital - so I went to the woman who took her place. Not quite sure she is the expert I was hoing for - so I am only partially relieved at this point. Very happy the PT did not recommend therapy or even wearing the sleeve (only if I feel I need it) - but a little nervous that I may not be doing enough. But maybe I will be like Anne and this will be a 1 time swelling!!!!
Sandy: Not much longer for you!!!! Have you made a decision on the plication?
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Surgery ladies...Good luck!!!
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Brenda & nowords - Thinking about you guys and hoping all goes smoothly - good luck!
Also hoping it's cooler wherever you call home than it is here. Spanx and SC summers do not mix!
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Hi Ladies,
I am new to this thread. I am looking into having possibly a TUG procedure done in Charleston. I am barely one month out from radiation post bilateral MX's, so I have a while to wait, but want to at least have a plan so I can stop worrying.
Anyone have a TUG done in Charleston? If so, who was your Dr., and could you share your experiences? Any advice is greatly appreciated.
Also, could someone explain what stage 1 and 2 means? I gather these are phases of surgery, but up to this point I had been naive enough to believe that it could all be done at once (until I found this site, that is)...
Thanks.
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Brenda-- my thoughts are with you this week. I am sure everything will turn out great!
Pink Butterfly-- Good for you for working on a plan for your reconstruction. I strongly recommend talking to Dr. Richard Kline in Charleston. He and his staff are great. I had my reconstruction a year ago. Everything was successful and these folks held my hand through the entire process. Gail is the office manager-- 843-513-1010 is her direct line. She can make arrangements for you to talk with Dr. Kline. You really will get answers to all of your questions. They are terrific about explaining how every step of the way will work. Good luck in your journey!
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Dr. Massey doesn't do TUG, I don't think. Dr. Allen may, is he still in Charleston?
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Thanks Better-body-babe and Annie W. It's comforting to think about going to someone who is so highly regarded by others who have BTDT. Otherwise it's just a crap shoot.
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I think the docs know how to do TUG, I think they just don't recommend it very often. It's not usually a first choice of donor site, I think there tends to be more healing complications with TUG.
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As it was explained to me - the TUG cuts thru the lymph node system which in my case would have been disastrous. It's bad enough to have to deal with swelling in my arm.
Prayers for Brenda today!
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All good points. Guess I will have to keep an open mind.
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BetterBody, thanks so much for posting that about Dr. Kline. I am scheduled to be DIEPed by him on August 3. So far, I have been really really pleased with him. He spent almost an hour on the phone with me and my husband. Pinkbutterfly, keep us all posted on what you decide to do.
Brenda, I have thought about you all day long. Can't wait to hear from your sister tomorrow!
Susan
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I'm pretty sure Dr. Allen is still in Charleston and he does do TUG. I never knew that about cutting across the lymph system!
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Brenda, I hope everything went well today. Wishing you a speedy recovery and excellent results!
Nowords, good luck on your upcoming surgery, too!
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Brenda and Nowords, Thinking of you. Wishing for smooth sailing and good healing ahead!
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Brenda...you are on the other side now! Hope everything went well. Cannot wait to hear from you. Nowords...you are up next!!! I am sure excitement is all around you, along with nervous energy! Enjoy NOLA before your surgery...Give Marga a hug from me and tell her I will see her in a couple of weeks!
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