ADH Lumpectomy Brown Discharge

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Sissy1
Sissy1 Member Posts: 11

Hello,I am a bit confused and if anyone has had similar or could help I would appreciate it.

A while back I had skin cancer and was sent to have a mamo (I skipped the year before) Thought I would have no problem since I could not feel anything different and the previous had been fine. The new mamo had micro calcifications and had them core biopsied and had ADH and Flat ADH (and no big thing hyperplasia) so had a lumpectomy to remove ADH have been going every three months for follow up mamos. I had three clips placed and they ALL vanished. The second follow up when compressed I leaked a lot of brown fluid and continued to do so with each compression. I tried to not think about it and when I checked a couple weeks later it was still brown so I went to be checked and it tested as blood. I went for an ultra sound and have one duct enlarged with a small/tiny lump/groth seen. It is not close to the area I had the lumpectomy. I am very small breasted. Before the ultrasound my Breast Dr. said it was like a loaded gun. I asked what he meant but he would not elaborate. He did say if anything was seen I would need the ducts removed. Has anyone else had this? It is good to wait and see or just have them removed. After a few months since it started it seems to have stopped. I do not want invasive breast cancer and was told I am at high risk for such. I try not to think about it but I can't get it out of my head. Your thoughts and any guidance would really help.

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  • VSM
    VSM Member Posts: 345
    edited May 2011

    Sissy,

    I'm glad you started a new post (I just responded to the old one)--the ladies here will chime in with their experiences.  After reading both posts, it sounds like the duct excision would be a natural next step.  We all want to ignore bad news, but make sure to stay diligent and get the doctors to check it all out--run the exams, tests, etc. and then make sure to follow up with the doctor after the exams and tests so they can answer any questions you have, and make suggestions.  Ultimately, it is YOUR body and you need to feel comfortable about what is done to it. 

    My BS recommended a duct excision, and then when I went in for the surgery consult, he changed his mind...this whole process can be confusing and frustrating--just remember that you are your own best advocate, so don't stop until you get the answers you need...My next exams are just a few weeks away--we'll see if he changes his mind again...

    Hang in there and keep us informed! 

  • Sissy1
    Sissy1 Member Posts: 11
    edited May 2011

    Thank you a bunch! I hope all goes well for you. I will post what happens.

  • sptmm62
    sptmm62 Member Posts: 665
    edited May 2011

    Sissy:  Did you have a galactogram?  I had a lumpectomy last year and about 2 months ago started leaking a brownish-yellow fluid.  My breast surgeon ordered the galactogram and they were able to track the drainage back to a seroma that has developed from the surgery.  I can have surgery to remove the duct, have a fluid aspiration, or he said I could just wait a while.  But, they didn't find any masses in my duct as they did in yours.  Having been through chemo, radiation, and surgery over the past year I decided to wait a while and will go back after my breast MRI in July and decide what to do.  It is possible that you are experiencing the same type of drainage, but I would go with your surgeon's recommendations.  Honestly, if they had found a mass on the galactogram, my surgeon said he would have recommended duct excision and I would have agreed.  But, ask about the galactogram if you haven't had one.

  • Sissy1
    Sissy1 Member Posts: 11
    edited May 2011

    I will ask about the galactogram. The fluid that was seen during the mamo and after was very gross and a dark brown, now change to a ugly yellowish with a tiny bit of red. It is only seen from 1 duct. The lumpectomy left me very sore for sometime but I never had any brusing from that or from any of the core biopsies. Surprised me since they thought I would bruise badly. I guess they also took a couple lymph nodes. (I didn't know that until recently) Do they usually remove lymph nodes? I can not feel any lumps of any kind, so whatever they have seen has to be pretty darn tiny. Would a seroma have shown on a mamo or ultra sound?

    Choices with any of this are so frightening. I don't want to make a mistake. Cosmetically my body is already a mess with scars. I mention that since some Drs seem to feel that appearance seems to be an important factor when it comes to a final choice. Don't get me wrong...I know some days it is very tough/emotional looking at scars and knowing what caused them. Sorry to blither and get off track.

    Thank you a bunch for your reply. It is very helpful.

  • sptmm62
    sptmm62 Member Posts: 665
    edited May 2011

    Hi Sissy:  Blather on, doesn't bother me.  A lot of times when making decisions, in addition to information, we need to talk it out and have someone listen.  I am more than willng to listen, and offer you any knowledge I may have, of course what is happening in my case might not be exactly the same as yours, so your decision may need to be different.  You are right the choices you have to make in the face of uncertainty are difficult and frightening. 

    Just to let you know, that I currently am draining serous fluid from one duct also, but on a regular basis.  I also did drain fluid during my last mammo in April.  The galactogram involved them sticking a very thin tube into that duct and infusing in contrast solution.  Then they did a mammo and followed the contrast in that duct to see where it went and if there were any masses in that duct.  Mine drained right back to a large seroma that they knew I had because, yes, seromas do show up both on mammos and MRIs.   

     Also, my seroma is not where my original tumor was, it is above the surgical sight.  I also have a lot of swelling there too.  That's great that you didn't have a lot of bruising.  I didn't have a lot of bruising on my original surgery, but did develop quite a bruise after my re-excision.  I also had lymph nodes removed from the breast.  They are intramammory lymph nodes that are removed with the rest of the tissue.  It is different from axillary lymph nodes from under your arm. 

    Anyway, I wish you the best of luck with your decisions.  It seems as if the doctors are certainly taking your issues seriously, so if they say to wait I think that is a reasonable thing to do.  But, I would explain your fears to them and ask them what they recommend.  Nobody wants to get invasive cancer and we all live with that fear every day and it is tough.  You live with the fear of getting invasive cancer, I live with the fear of having a recurrence or developing metastatic disease.  Its a very difficulty way to live and I understand very well how you feel.  I wish you the best of luck and if you have any other questions, just ask.

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