May 2011 Radiation

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  • MaggieMc2
    MaggieMc2 Member Posts: 54
    edited May 2011

    I haven't posted in awhile because we had a big surprise last Friday. My daughter had her baby 4 1/2 weeks early, so we flew out to L.A. this past weekend to meet our new grandson. He is in ICU, but is doing well. My daughter had told me about her pregnancy the day after my cancer diagnosis, so this has kept me going throughout this long cancer journey. Needless to say we are very happy. Today I had #8 out of 33 treatments. Fatigue was so overwhelming with chemo, and the SE's were so miserable that so far rads are going well. It helps that my techs are so wonderful. The nurses and receptionists are all helpful as well, so this is all going better than I imagined. I have only won one dollar on my scratch-offs, but just tossing the losers in the trash makes the pile get smaller and means I am getting closer to the end. I also finally got my surgery date for reconstruction. I am having a Tram. That means I get a tummy tuck out of this! Of course this means another surgery and four days in the hospital, but I still feel like the worst part is over. I have been living with this since late last August when I first noticed that "something" was not right. I did not realize then that a whole year of my life would be given up to this journey.

  • sagina
    sagina Member Posts: 1,219
    edited May 2011

    tinaj ~ my RO said a little tiny bit of my lung would get radiation.  He checks my breathing each week.  I haven't noticed anything different though with breathing.  I had a lumpectomy too and didn't notice the chunk of flab they took from me until one day I was leaning over the bed putting sheets on, and my night shirt opened and whoa! I looked like two different people!!!!!

    My techs have never "touched" me.  They scoot me around with the sheet, and sometimes get really really close to take measurements, but they always let me know what they are doing and apologize when they have to get really close. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2011

    MaggieMc2: Congratulations on the new grandbaby!!

    sagina:  Yeah...he warned me there was like a 1 in 200  chance I'd have some issue with that and because it's my left, I have to hold my breath during treatment (wheeee). I still suspect the young gal got it wrong yesterday (or maybe I moved) but we'll see! I don't see the doc until Monday but maybe I'll ask them to confirm my lungs aren't getting hit or something!

  • ewa-swimmer
    ewa-swimmer Member Posts: 49
    edited May 2011

    Ftblmom: the position is part of the accelerated treatment. Not sure who is eligible and who is not. I know that not all clinics have the equipment. Relatively new procedure in U.S. But Canada has a decade of evidence that says it's as effective as the longer treatment at lower dosage.

  • GabbyCal
    GabbyCal Member Posts: 277
    edited May 2011

    GmaFoley - I agree you should stick around with this cool May crowd. Glad to hear you've gotten through the chemo/no chemo process and are starting rads. We've got your back.

    tinaj - I had those sharp stabbing pains after my first lumpectomy. First time they didn't get clean margins so I had a second one a couple months later. Haven't had any shooting pains after the second one. 

  • GmaFoley
    GmaFoley Member Posts: 7,091
    edited May 2011

    ftblmom3:

    My radiologist said that if the breast didn't lay right (with no wrinkles) when you are laying on your back they have another board and stomach position they use.. It happens with large breasted women and they thought I might have needed it... but no, my boob was fine and tattoos are on the front and kinda hurt tonight.. 

    And thank you ladies, you are an awesome group.. I will stay here...

  • sagina
    sagina Member Posts: 1,219
    edited May 2011

    tinaj~ i'm getting my right one done, and he showed me the cat scan image with the high tech markings showing just what is getting radiated.  It is a sliver of the lung, I wouldn't have seen it had it not pointed it out. 

    When he showed me the image with the radiated area shaded in red, I almost passed out! I'm getting whole breast, underarm, and super clav.   I just had my DD home from college for a couple of weeks look at my back, it feels sunburned....she traced the red with her finger, pretty much the same as the front.  Now how do I reach that to apply cream?  I'll be home alone for around a month starting next week....any ideas....

  • GmaFoley
    GmaFoley Member Posts: 7,091
    edited May 2011

    Sagina, My nurse at the radiology department said if I needed any help they would help me or get someone to help me when needed... I also have a few lady friends from church that will come over if I need some help with things like that.

  • ewa-swimmer
    ewa-swimmer Member Posts: 49
    edited May 2011

    I experimented to find a tool that would help me reach around on my back. A plastic shoehorn works for me.

  • ftblmom3
    ftblmom3 Member Posts: 100
    edited May 2011

    MaggieMc2-Congratulations of the new grandbaby! Prayers that he is doing well! and good luck with your radiation. I really admire all of you that have gone through surgery PLUS chemo and Now radiation! It is such a long emotional journey and I feel so lucky to have this board for all of the "tips and tricks" of things as well as being able to type out frustrations!

    There is a commercial on here where a guy is on vacation and he smears sunscreen on a sliding glass door then rubs his back all over it to get it on his back. Maybe you can try that!?!?! LOL

  • carberry
    carberry Member Posts: 1,153
    edited May 2011

    sagina  phone a friend?  I always feel very warm in the afternoon after tx , like I was sitting out in the sun, but no skin irritation yet, using he aquaphor.

    The tech told me to get naked at night and let the air get to the skin for awhile.  So there I sat with my shirt half off watching american idol last evening.  DH likes the new plan!

    MaggieMc  congrats on the new baby!  Isnt it funny how things work out...I know you were worried about getting there for the event.

  • slcst12
    slcst12 Member Posts: 161
    edited May 2011

    Tinaj:
    I feel the same way you do about the tugging and pulling. Very disconcerting.
    I'm a scientist and *still* feel that this is very imprecise.
    I also hate being reminded of my age (always have hated this) but, to look at it another way, right now I just hope I see 40, (and 50, and 80...)

    Baf4292: I'm TN as well, such a bummer, isn't it?

    Ftblmom3:  I think the medical personnel forget that this is *our* first time..I have no qualms about reminding them though!

    On the lung involvement:
    So--how do you know they aren't hitting the lung with rads?  Just by the doc listening once a week? Again, seems imprecise to me...

    On holding your breath:
    My techs told me yesterday (at x-ray and dry run appt) that I could just breathe normally during treatment. That seems scary to me, b/c one deep breath can change my whole body position by like 50%!  Again...imprecise.

    For me:
    I start Monday. I got the 7:15 time slot, so if radiation doesn't wear me out, leaving my house every day at 6:30 AM will...

  • sagina
    sagina Member Posts: 1,219
    edited May 2011

    slcst12~ on the lung involvement, my RO showed me the film and the connect the dots mapping type field and he pointed out the sliver of lung that gets hit.  Thankfully I'm not feeling that.  Also not precise is what they tell you are normal side effects or timing of them.  I was tired from the first treatment, like a lazy tired....

    I'm also TN - how did your tumor respond to the chemo? or did you have surgery first?

    Great suggestions for the back lubing! Thank you all.  I do have friends that would come over in a heartbeat to do that - they keep asking what can I do, oh wait till I tell them! lol.  I like the shoe horn idea too.  I was thinking a soft lufa type sponge thing, but wondering how I would wash it so the shoe horn is even better. 

  • TonLee
    TonLee Member Posts: 2,626
    edited May 2011

    #4 down.

    About lung involvement....my RO (and second and third opinion ROs) all agreed the top of the lung is hit when getting rads .. then they said it was no big deal becauseour lungs don't really use the top much??  That with gravity it keeps the blood in the lower parts of the lung...and unless I spent a lot of time on my back, probably wouldn't notice.

    Ok, I almost made some inappropriate jokes...

    I don't know if that is true...but I know some people can live with a single lung...so if mine are damaged a little bit during rads...well, there are worse problems I guess.

    My exit area on the back is just the superclav beam...they said that's all the exit I'd have...so I wonder why some of you have more involvement back there?  Hmmmm.

  • duckyb1
    duckyb1 Member Posts: 13,369
    edited May 2011

    My techs have never had to touch me........they use the sheet I'm on to move me wherever I have to go.....I was told about the lung, small portion at the bottom.......I am fortunate I finish week #4 tomorrow, and so far I am doing very well........no burn or soreness..........I bought 6 mens XL white T shirts today.......will use them if necessary............so far I only put the Aquaphor on at night, and sometimes Aloe Gel............If I keep going like this I will be fine..........I doubt that is going to be the case, but "I can dream can't I."

    My techs are great, and they are all different at different times.......Probably a team of about  6 or 8 thoughout the week..........They are so good, and I don't doubt for a minute that they do not know what they are doing...............Probably because my RO, is so particular, and right to the point......

    Today they were suppose to do an x-ray, and then they said to me..............The RO wants to be here while we do the x-ray, and she isn't here today, so we will do it tomorrow.....She was also in on all the tattoos, simulations, and each and everything they did prior to starting the Rads..

    This hospital cancer Center is the best.... Next week its a C-scan.

    Will still be glad when I'm done............then I get to Ring the Bell..........All my kids are taking off work to be there...........I think they are nuts, but I just let the do what they want to.

  • achpurple
    achpurple Member Posts: 290
    edited May 2011

    Had #4 this morning and so far, so good.  The people here are super nice and always ask if I have any questions or am having any problems.  They move me with a sheet they lay under me and any time they are going to touch me, or remark me, or retape me, they tell me before they do it.  Will see the RO once a week on Mondays after treatment.  Have had no issues so far, other than when I get there and start walking back, I feel like the movie "Groundhog Day" I think it was called.  Hate that movie, but that's what I feel like.  Kind of gives me a chuckle as I walk down the hall.  

  • bambi380
    bambi380 Member Posts: 44
    edited May 2011

    1/3 of the way to 33 and being done. Nodules in thyroid still inflamed and that is the worst SE of this entire fiasco. I think I will swallow some aloe vera gel! ;)

  • GabbyCal
    GabbyCal Member Posts: 277
    edited May 2011

    My techs never touch me either. They sometimes do this odd thing where they tug on the sheet to nudge my into position. My MO asks my permission to look at my skin.  

    There's a big ship's bell at the door to the radiation room. I've always wondered what it's there for. Maybe, I'll get to Ring the Bell after my last treatment like you ducky. (I had thought it was some sort of emergency alarm. But now that I think about that, communications at a high-tech hospital with all this state of the art medical equipment would probably be a bit more sophisticated than a bell.)

    I'm half-way done as of today and feeling optimistic.  

  • TonLee
    TonLee Member Posts: 2,626
    edited May 2011

    Bambi..don't do that!! lol  (I actually read some cancer patients have done exactly that and died from it..but not because of a sore throat, I think they were trying to detox after chemo...can't remember).

    My ladies are no non-sense, in and out, NEXT!! 

    But it's kinda nice to just do it and leave.  I frigging hate it and I am sure they can tell.

    So far so good (just some itching, tightness, etc)...I hate to even put that out there in cyber space...tempting fate and all.

    So glad to read you ladies are doing so well.

    I have a wedding...a frigging must be fabulous for wedding two days after the end of rads.....I can't even buy a dress for it right now because I don't know how bad I'll be peeling...

    I'm supposed to get expanded Tuesday...I

  • TonLee
    TonLee Member Posts: 2,626
    edited May 2011

    I WANT A BELL!!

     That is cool.

  • GmaFoley
    GmaFoley Member Posts: 7,091
    edited May 2011

    Guess what happened???  

     I went into the cancer treatment center to turn in financial paperwork and saw my nurse from my appt yesterday at the front desk.. I told her I slathered the aloe on my breast last night and this morning my breast was a bluish pink - she decided to take a peak and when i took off my bra - I had a little red rash... I'm allergic to the aloe... Not a good start especially since I don't even start my treatments until the 31st... Obviously, I am stuck just with the aquaphor from day 1 Tongue out..

    Good news is that the County Cancer Society here is going to help me with gas and food money. At least something good is happening from all that paperwork I've had to do...

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2011

    4/30 done and still no winnings out of 4 lottery tickets!

    My friend pointed out to me yesterday that at 3/30 I was 10% done...glass half full? lol

    I got tired of tanks under my clothes and missed my wireless bra so today I wrapped some non-pilling fleece around my torso and wore my bra over it. Showed rad nurse and she was all thumbs up about it!  She did say for me NOT to moisturize the skin fold beneath my breast and to try to lay around bare with my arms in the air some to give that area air.  The goal is to keep the area where skin touches skin dry evidently to minimize skin-rub irritation. 

    One more day to the end of week #1! Laughing

  • cb451
    cb451 Member Posts: 24
    edited May 2011

    @ nic42:  You are in good company!  Last night I cycled through several crying jags, with no particular provocation.  Sometimes I feel I've gone mental, but all the literature says this is normal.

  • ForMyBoys
    ForMyBoys Member Posts: 64
    edited May 2011

    They tape the bolus to my skin too, with 1 ft pieces of tape because my skin was "too lotiony" one day and the tape wouldn't stick. So now they just automatically hook me up like a mummy.

  • cb451
    cb451 Member Posts: 24
    edited May 2011
    Dear Fellow Irradiated Ladies:  Today I had my 5th of 30 treatments, so I'm officially 1/6th of the way through - woot!  I wish I wasn't so unbelievably tired.  ("Yawn" off to nap.)
  • bambi380
    bambi380 Member Posts: 44
    edited May 2011

    I was allergic to the tape. So they took it off and just draw on me daily. Looks so nice when I wear a v-neck top to the golf course. I can imagine what everyone must think. Here I am bald, with sprigs of white hair and sharpie marks on my upper chest. *L*

    We have a bell too! :)

  • ftblmom3
    ftblmom3 Member Posts: 100
    edited May 2011

    4th treatment DONE! Almost at the end of the first week!! WOO HOO

    As i was walking in to the treatment center today, i was thinking 'man, i am tired of coming here everyday this week" then i kinda chuckled to myself thinking, i had better change that attitude, plus only one more week, then hopefully a nice weekend before we tackle week #2!

  • GmaFoley
    GmaFoley Member Posts: 7,091
    edited May 2011

    I got my schedule - I am working from 7:30am - 12:30pm and then go for my rads between 1:45 and 2. When I have other doc appts they are scheduled around 2:30 - 3. That gives me time to go home and fall apart afterwards.. You all think that will work? 

  • sagina
    sagina Member Posts: 1,219
    edited May 2011

    GmaFoley, I don't see you ever "falling apart", that's what we are for!!!! Holding each other up!

    TonLee~ I was laughing with you about the laying on your back before I read your next line!!! thank you, I needed to laugh today.

    I had #20 or 21 today....I really can't keep track....I have a couple of sunburn spots on my back, shoulder blade. The techs called in the RO and we had a naked party in the treatment room, oh wait, only I was naked....anyway....he looks at my back and says that's below the treatment field, must be something else....we'll keep an eye on it.  Does he think I'm sunning somewhere? Where else would I get a sunburn on my back? Oh yeah, maybe from my ultraviolet lights in my office, I better remember to work in the dark!  Bet he really went to study my films today?

  • duckyb1
    duckyb1 Member Posts: 13,369
    edited May 2011

    I swear sometimes I think these Dr.'s think we are stupid..............Nothing I hate more then someone with a better education then I have trying to make me look like the "asshole"...........If my RO does that to me, I will be in her face....................no one insults me like that, and I will tell her, well maybe I just started a new  SE..................Sunburn on my back..... Telling you it didn't come from the Rads..............what a crock of shit.............that is an insult to your intelligence.................

    My RO, had better not try that with me, if it does happen...........Yell

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