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  • DesignerMom
    DesignerMom Member Posts: 1,464
    edited May 2011

    Tina-  I was just wondering where you were!  Another BCO lady was saying that she was aiming for 3 hours of walking a week to help prevent recurrence of BC.  She said she was glad she didn't have colon cancer because they recommend twice that amount!  I better get out and get walking.  It made me laugh and think of you. How is your new little grandson doing?

    When this thread is quiet, I usually feel everyone is doing well.  I guess no news is good news!

  • grneyd5600
    grneyd5600 Member Posts: 420
    edited May 2011

    Had my 3 month check up today.  Admitted to onc that I was having a lot of heartburn and some pain especially when I lay on the right side.  He decided to do a chest xray and take a look.  Doubt he is going to find anything.  I figure it is just my gallbladder finally taking a dive. 

    Funny thing is I would prefer at this point to keep all the organs I have left!  So if it is my gallbladder I don't really want to hear I have to have it out.  Enough surgeries already!!!!!

  • DesignerMom
    DesignerMom Member Posts: 1,464
    edited May 2011

    Jackie-  Hoping for only good news.  I'm wondering if it is the Arimidex, or is it Tamox?  A lot of the ladies are complaining about digestive issues from Arimidex.  I wonder if extra acidophillus might help.  Remember how messed up digestion was during chemo?  I have a feeling all prescriptions can mess with your gut.  Wouldn't hurt to up your yogurt or take some acidophillus regularly.  I'm totally with you about no more surgeries!  Don't want to scare you but one of my dear friends went in to have her gallbladder out and got that horrible MRSA infection.  She was in the hospital four months and the infection nearly killed her.  I don't understand why US hospitals aren't doing more.  Even in the UK where they have socialized medicine they don't allow white lab coats or long ties.  They found too many germs carried from one patient to the next.

  • grneyd5600
    grneyd5600 Member Posts: 420
    edited May 2011
    Dmom - I am on the Arimidex and wondered if could be causing or adding to the problem.  I am eating yogurt every day anyway to help the other end.  I am going to add pepcid for a couple weeks and see if I can get any relief.  I am determined NOT to lose any more body parts.  I am keeping what I have.  Wink
  • grneyd5600
    grneyd5600 Member Posts: 420
    edited May 2011

    OK so xray is back.  There is something on one of my ribs.  Onc has called and he says he doesn't think it's anything to worry about and most likely it is a shadow but it wasn't there a year ago when I had last chest xray.  He is willing to order a bone scan if that is what I want.  He says that doing a bone scan may run the risk of showing more "shadows" without giving us clear answers.  He told me to think it over and then touch base with him next week (after the wedding).  He said he will agree to whatever I want to do - a) do the bone scan b) wait a few weeks and see if I have any more symptoms or 3) do nothing right now and watch my blood work and see how I feel in (3) months. 

    I have to admit I am totally perplexed on what to do and that is unusual for me.  I usually want all the answers and want them right now.  In this case I am not so sure I want to rush into the bone scan thing.  I am so not sure what I want to do right now. 

     I think I will do the Scarlett O'Hara and say "I will worry about this another day"

    Just needed to vent.

  • DesignerMom
    DesignerMom Member Posts: 1,464
    edited May 2011

    Jackie-  Oh crap!  If it isn't one thing it's another!  Did you have rads?  Sorry, can't remember.  I have heard x-rays give some false shadows and things for a while post rads.  That is why my BS suggested I wait 6 months before I have an MRI (not rads, but also gives false positives after).  I will tell you what I do when I just don't know what to do.  Before I go to sleep I pray that I wake up with a clear answer.  I pray for clarity.  Usually I wake up and have a strong gut feeling about my question.  I will keep you in my prayers for clarity Jackie.  Just tune in to your intuition (which I believe is God's way of talking to you), you will know what to do.  And In the meantime, just try to do the Scarlett routine and enjoy this incredible celebration of your son's wedding.  What joy!

  • JFV
    JFV Member Posts: 795
    edited May 2011

    Hi ladies

    Jackie -  I am saying dmom's prayer for you tonight.

    Tina- When I think about the fact that you have been battling the "c" for two years I am in awe of your strength and fortitude.  Hope your Grandbabies aren't wearing you out too badly.

    Bad week at work.  Nothing directly affecting me.  Just budgets and bad economy and a staff member in trouble.  Gloomy stuff that is depressing to hear about.

    I have been back in the garden also !  I enjoy my garden and have ignored it for a year.  All sorts of interesting things coming up.  Just transplanted alot of ferns from my yard to my mother's yard.  It looks like the hostas need dividing next.  We have been having lovely weather and for some wonderful reason my allergies have been OK.  I did develop a skin rash on one arm after gardening.  Couldn't figure out why it was on only one arm until I remembered that I garden with my lymphedema sleeve on the other arm.  Turns out it doubles as allergy protection !

  • grneyd5600
    grneyd5600 Member Posts: 420
    edited May 2011

    Dmom & JFV - thanks for the notes.  I am definitely praying for clarity!

    I got the radialogist report today to read from the onc.  I am going to "sit" on it until next week and concentrate on the wedding this weekend. 

    Joan - I am digging the profile pic - that is awesome!!!  I could use a little cucumber therapy myself. 

  • JFV
    JFV Member Posts: 795
    edited May 2011

    I forget if I posted why I look like that !  My daughter and her friend set up a Mother's Day "Spa" for my friend and me.  It was cute.  Then they decided to take pictures of us with their cell phones as we sat with the stuff on our faces.  We did lots of giggling !

  • cheyenna
    cheyenna Member Posts: 379
    edited May 2011

    Jackie, ill be thinking and praying for you, its a shadow, Smile

    Joan, i love your pic, lol how nice it is to giggle againSmile

    T,i hope all is well, i agree with Dmom, when it silent here things are going good, i hope..

    has any heard from kittycat? and latte how are you feeling?bon i love looking at all our pics, the hair is coming in fast now it seems, its been 6 months since or more for most of us off chemo. we all did it!! we really did, togetherSmile!!

    I met a lady who has bc, and im thrilled to be helping her through it, she is much older then I, i took her today to have her port put in, and im going to take her to her first chemo AC then Taxol. she has my old ONC, remember DR doom? YUK!!!! it brang back scary thoughts doing her Dr appts and port appts, but she needs someone to keep her spirts up,hehe, i tell her dirty jokes and i flirt with all her cute techs, she laughs at me,  her daughter told me, "id like to help but i have two kids" whatever! i was so upset to hear her say that, she did not even call her mom today to see how she did getting her port in. I just remember how scared i was,and sometimes still are, i want her to know that there are people, like all you girls here, that really care.

    as for me im good, i cant wait for my new boobs, lol im scared but excited at the same time, maybe i can wear a bathing suit again, i wanna show off my tummy piercing, hehe, what was i thinking??? hahaha, oh well, there was no way i was getting a pink ribbon tattoo!!! lol

    love you girls

    Chey

  • cheyenna
    cheyenna Member Posts: 379
    edited May 2011

    oh, i just caught up, Kitty so sorry for your loss, that is so hard! its heartbreaking,

    latte, my DR's told me the same thing about scans, so i guess i wont be getting any, not sure how i feel about that,but it does make sense,

    sherry i take my Tmox in the morning,but nobody said anything about  cancer check ups in my uterus, i will ask about that.

    julia, im sooooo glad!!!! YAY!! for you

    love Cheyenne

  • DesignerMom
    DesignerMom Member Posts: 1,464
    edited May 2011

    cheyenna-  Bless you for helping this other lady with her BC journey.  I actually have always found when I help someone else, I don't focus on my own problems as much and it actually helps me too.  And yes, go and get a great new swimsuit to show of your fabulous abs and belly piercing!

    I just posted this on another thread, but thought some of you would be interested too.  Just read this on BCO. A new study found that women who take ACE inhibitors for high blood pressure have more than 50% higher recurrence of BC. Wow! I think the study says that if you take ACE inhibitors with beta blockers or beta blockers alone, it does not increase recurrence risk. I don't have high blood pressure, but if I was on ACE meds, I sure would discuss switching to something else. The details are in this link. http://www.breastcancer.org/risk/new_research/20110422.jsp 

  • PearlGirl
    PearlGirl Member Posts: 549
    edited May 2011

    DMom...I read that study and am trying not to panic. I have been on one of the 'prils' (ACE inhibitors) for a few years now. I left a message with the PCPs answering service that I need to talk to someone first thing Monday morning. Benazapril works fine for my BP but at the risk of another bout with bc, well there are plenty of beta blockers and calcium channel blockers to try. Crap, crap, crap! Everything seems to cause cancer! Everything!

  • Sherry9316
    Sherry9316 Member Posts: 294
    edited May 2011

    Hi everyone!  Today is Saturday and I'm being quite lazy.  I have been battling EXTREME fatigue for a few weeks now.  I get home at 4:00 everyday and by 4:30 I am sound asleep.  I usually wake up around 7:30 or 8:00 - watch a little TV and then go to bed at 10:30 and I sleep all night. I can't figure it out.  I didn't have this much fatigue when I was going through rads.

    Had my first mammo yesterday.  It was quite painful on my left side. My tech was very sweet and gentle.  Met with the doctor afterwards.  He said my left breast looked about like what he would expect after surgery and rads.  He wants me to have another one in 6 mos.  

    Only three more weeks of school left - then a two month break!  Looking forward to a better summer this year than what I had last year.  Husband and I are planning a motorcycle trip and a trip to Dallas with the granddaughters.

  • DesignerMom
    DesignerMom Member Posts: 1,464
    edited May 2011

    Sherry- My RO warned me that fatigue could continue in waves for up to a year after rads.  I have days where I am really dragging.  Just rest and let your body heal.  It has had the stuffing beaten out of it this year!

    Bon-  I totally understand the feeling that everything seems to cause cancer.  Crap, crap and crap is right.  It's hard to enjoy anything anymore.  I went to a restaurant with a friend and decided to indulge in Key Lime Pie.  I never eat anything with sugar anymore.  Jeez, you would have thought I was eating arsenic or something the way I struggled with the decision.  I think I am going back to my old dieting philosophy.  If I do 90% of things right 90% of the time, that's liveable.    I know there are many meds for BP which are not ACE inhibitors.  I would email or take that new study to your doctor.  I bet he may not even know about the increased risk yet.  Anyone else think we should be getting paid by the doctors instead of the other way around since we seem to be their research assistants?

    Off to a friend's 50th birthday party tonight with my 12 YO in tow.  I hope their teenagers are not too wild.  My kid idolizes them.  That's all I need is for him to start acting like they do!

  • PearlGirl
    PearlGirl Member Posts: 549
    edited May 2011

    Just wanted to tell you all how important you are to me. I hold you each dear and close to my heart, right next to the pearls.

    DMom...have a great time at the party!

    Hugs all around. Bon

  • Latte
    Latte Member Posts: 1,072
    edited May 2011

    hi everyone!

    thanks for the info about the ACE inhibitors - i just checked, but my BP med is a beta-blocker so that's ok. One interesting thing i saw in the link was the sentence below - i guess the term "nonsignificant" means something other than what i thougt, because i think a 14% lower risk of recurrence seems pretty significant to me...

    Treatment with a beta-blocker alone was associated with a nonsignificant 14% lower risk of recurrence, a nonsignificant 24% lower risk cause-specific mortality, and no effect on all-cause mortality. 

    I'm doing OK - went back to work 2 weeks ago, and it's been tiring, but OK. on thursday i met up with a group of women currently going through BC tx or finished with BC tx for breakfast - i just found this local BC group on facebook, and they get together fairly often for fun activities and support - i wish i had found them when i actually had time to enjoy it, now i'm really busy with work, but the meeting on thursday was where i live so it was pretty easy to go there.

     jackie, and anyone else with scans coming up - i'm thinking of you!

  • JFV
    JFV Member Posts: 795
    edited May 2011

    Hey ladies !  Bon, it's just no fair that you have another thing to worry about.  As you say everything seems to cause cancer ! 

    Dmom-  I just ate 3/4s of a choclate Easter bunny.  I am in total denial these days about my diet even as my clothes get tighter and tighter. I do think your 90 % 90% philosophy is a great idea.  I keep thinking about giving up the yummy junk food completely and then I pig out as a way to say goodbye to it.

    Chey-  I think you are amazing !  So strong and focused and giving.  That other lady is so lucky to have you !  We are so lucky to have you. I want a picture of you in your bikini !

    Latte- glad work is going well.  Hope you find more time to be with your new BC friends.

    Sherri- Enjoy your sleep.  As someone said fatigue can last a long time. 

    I am having a bad c day.  I began to think about surviving only 5 years and what I would want to accomplish before I passed. Very stressful.  Part of me thinks I am being very morbid, and part of me thinks it is smart to have a set of plans if the worst does happen.  I would like to leave this world knowing I have done my best for my husband and children.  But,  if I become immobilized by fear everytime I think about it, it's useless.  Sorry to share this stuff here.  But, you ladies are all I got.  Other people will listen to me.  But, they have too much invested in me being OK.  I can't get honest answers.  I think I need a life coach.  I don't really want counseling.  I know pretty well how cancer makes me feel.  I want to develop a plan as to how I want to conduct the next few years of my life so if I go I will feel like my family is as ready for life without me as can be.  Am I making sense or just sounding self pitying ?

    Thanks for listening ladies.  You are the best. 

  • Latte
    Latte Member Posts: 1,072
    edited May 2011

    hi joan, i don't think you're being morbid - you should just look at it as wanting to get the most out of life - but why settle for 5 years :-)  I think you should find a life coach, and set yourself up a 5, 10, 20, and 30 year plan to get you motivated on how to get the most out of your life (nothing to do with having BC)

  • DesignerMom
    DesignerMom Member Posts: 1,464
    edited May 2011

    Joan-  I think you are totally normal in your thoughts and fears.  I love, love, love Latte's advice, especially the 30 plus year plan.  If you do find a good life coach, please promise to share your strategies.  Maybe you should become a life coach??

  • JFV
    JFV Member Posts: 795
    edited May 2011

    Thanks Dmom and Latte for your kind words.  I am really hoping for 30 years too !  I talked to my husband a little about being prepared for the worst.  He said I shouldn't burden myself with those thoughts.  But, then he's a guy and a type B personality and I'm a recovering type A personality.  I guess I am looking for to return to some sense of security that left me when I got the cancer diagnosis.  If I get any good info I'll let you know!

  • PearlGirl
    PearlGirl Member Posts: 549
    edited May 2011

    Dear Joan...We are all here trying to put our lives back together.  Aiming for that 30+ happily ever after years is definitely our goal, but it's a mighty difficult one to imagine some days. For however long we need...for however long we can...we forge ahead, knowing that there's a big world out there for us to take part in and we struggle to rejoin those who are 'truly' living.

    Honestly, I don't know if I will ever feel totally 'secure' again, but I am certainly more accepting of the knowledge that I'm not fully in charge. My type-A personality is now a Type-Ac. That's for After cancer. Anything can happen at any time...good and bad.   Everyone on this planet has an uncertain future. But we have one...we have a FUTURE!!!  A year ago none of us was so sure of that. Now we are more mindful to savor great pleasures and cherish small treasures.

    After having cancer be the first thing I think of upon waking every morning for over a year now, I wonder if a time will come when it isn't in the forefront of my thoughts. I surely don't want to dwell on it forever and long for it to become a distant memory, fogged by time. The things I want to take away from this dreadful experience are a stronger sense of compassion and my connection to all of you. We've traveled this rough journey together and shared very personal, often agonizing details, as well as some great laughs along the way. We're here to champion the one needing a boost, and to high-five the one in celebration. We are a team. Frazzled and once fractured, now healing. Trying to make the best of what we have to work with, together. (In our pearls, of course).

    For me, that is really security. Knowing that you are all here and that you do understand. I can face the rest of what comes, and go about the business of life, knowing that I have you all in my corner, if and when I need a hug, a bit of encouragement, or a pat on the back. 

    Peace, ladies. Let us all have peace.

  • DesignerMom
    DesignerMom Member Posts: 1,464
    edited May 2011

    Bon-  Beautifully said and spot on as always....in pearls of course!

  • JFV
    JFV Member Posts: 795
    edited May 2011

    Oh Bon !  You make me cry with joy.  God Bless all of you for traveling this road with such kindness and compassion and pearls of wisdom. 

  • flopsy
    flopsy Member Posts: 365
    edited May 2011

    Jackie I sure hope your chest xray was just one of those false alarms that us BC girls seem to have so many of. Rads could have caused a broken rib. I will be praying for you til youtell us all is fine. Bon and Dmom you both give such good advice and always know what tosay to make us feel better. I am wriiting on my Kindle again so excuse the poor form. Will update the latest Julia saga. We were all trying to reach her by phone and could not reach her so I went to see her. Her corded phone was not in her room and I looked everywhere but it was not there. I askedn her where she had put it and she said she carried it to the hair salon because she was expecting an important call. I asked her who she was expecting to call and she told me that the president had been trying to get in touch with her for some time but never could catch her. I asked her which president was that and she answered it was Reagan. He needed her on his new campaign for reelection. She unpluggedn her table top phone and took it with her in case he called. That willbe a very long distance call from heaven I guess. Her phone is not cordless but it is now MIA. I got her another one from the dollar store next door. I might put a homing device on this one. She is such a character that I expect anything and everything anymore. Well gotta go to bed now but will be back soon.

  • DesignerMom
    DesignerMom Member Posts: 1,464
    edited May 2011

    gin2-  I truly love the world Julia lives in.  I would take my phone with me too if I thought President Reagan would be calling!  Imagine the invitation list if Julia was throwing a dinner party!

  • Purl51
    Purl51 Member Posts: 190
    edited May 2011

    June 2, 1st of 3 treatments tc I think.  Thank you for starting this topic.  Nervous.  Mastectomy of left breast about 3 weeks ago.

  • cheyenna
    cheyenna Member Posts: 379
    edited May 2011

    lavendar, you can do it!!! we will be here for you, i swear if it was not for my big sisters here, i would have never made it!!!! i love these girls so much!!!!!!

    Bon, wow you always know what to say, you and dmom, we love you so much!!!

  • DesignerMom
    DesignerMom Member Posts: 1,464
    edited May 2011

    lavendar-  I'm sorry you have to be a member of this club.  We were all in your place about a year ago.  I'm sure all of these ladies will answer any questions we can, but I also highly recommend you find your current chemo thread.  There is nothing like going through the chemo trenches together to support and bond you with others.  It is why I love these ladies forever and ever!  I couldn't find a June 2011 chemo thread yet, but there is a May chemo 2011 thread.  Just put it in the search box and you will find it.  I'm sure those ladies will welcome you too.  Wishing you the best of luck with your journey.  Let us know if we can help.

  • JFV
    JFV Member Posts: 795
    edited May 2011

    lavendar-  Hang in there !  Sending love and prayers your way.  The unknown is very frightening and the amount of information that has been thrown at you is overwhelming.  My advice is  write down all your questions in a notebook and bring them with you to chemo and doctor's appts.  Write down any information they give you in the notebook also.  Drink gallons of water.  Way more water than you think is humanly possible to drink starting now and for about the next 6 months.  Try to get in a little bit of exercise each day and be good to yourself. 

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