Who has opted for BMX?
With the difficulty of detecting ILC how many choose BMX for treament as compared to those with IDC? After having alot of new discoveries after changing treatment centers and going through another round of biopsies, I wonder if there is more to be discovered and am thinking BMX may be the sanest path of treatment. I had an additional are discovered in my right breast that I think will take me out of contention for a lumpectomy, and if I'm having one mastectomy I think I may as well do both and have them reconstructed at the same time. I know alot of you have had to go through this decision process and would be interested in any advice you could offer.
Deb
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I chose it without hesitation after learning that this cancer is known for it's bliateral growth. Also, everyone I spoke to who did one side said they regretted it. It's all about peace of mind.
I advised my mother 9 years ago to go with a double MX after a failed lumpectomy so when it was my turn I knew it was right way to go. My mom has not had any recurrence anywhere - 9 years cancer free. I had my BMX April 11th and glad I did. While clear in left breast my right breast tumor was 12.5 cm and the cancer has spread to my angio-lymphatic system --- meaning it's in my blood stream. I have a high chance of metastatis and recurrence elsewhere but I won't be going through another Mastectomy down the road if anything.
ILC is like ovarian and melanoma cancer. It's a slient and sneaky cancer. I personally think I had 4 years of top breast specialists monitoring me but they missed it entirely. Thought it was everything but cancer so it went undiagnosed or mis-diagnosed. This cancer can make you worry 24x7.
I have tissue expanders. 2 and half weeks out from my BMX and very happy with results. I have some peace of mind with both breasts out of the picture. Now I need to be concerned with CT and Pelvic Scans next week. Hope they come back clean.
Hope I helped you wiith my story. Everyone has to decide what's right for them. Good luck. Your gut and instincts willl guide you.
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I too am opting for a bilateral mastectomy. I had normal mammograms for years, even 2 days after I felt the ILC mass. I know that I will never be worry free but I don't want to face the constant fear I would have with the every 6 month monitoring of the other breast.
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Toomuch,
Your dx sounds a lot like mine. I am undecided about bi or not. I have had folks tell me to do both and docs sugjesting I only need a lumpectomy. I hear that ILC can be a very tricky cancer, it never showed up with me till I found it. I had an MRI today and I am hoping the results will help me make up my mind.
Robin
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Count me in. I opted BMX because I learned from this form that this BC is multifocal and sneaky, and my ILC was not shown up on mamogram. My surgeon full supported me but my ONC thought it's too drastic. But I guess, even we all have ILC, there is still a difference among each person.
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Deb, I was diagnosed with ILC in March and faced what you are looking at now. The palpable lump was not suspicious on a mammogram, but showed as a 2.5 cm mass on US. I had an excisional lumpectomy two weeks later (the biopsies -core & FNA did not retrieve good pathology samples) and the BS found a 8.5cm tumour! The lump I was feeling was like the yolk on a fried egg sized ILC tumour! Mastectomy was the only option as margins were not clear. I had an MRI on both breasts pre mastectomy and the healthy left breast showed no abnormalities. I pretty much made up my mind that I could not take the increased risk that ILC poses of bilateral BC. I also considered symmetry during reconstruction and the ongoing testing and scans for life - I am 46 yo and have a 12yo daughter.
I had a BMX with TEs on 31/3/2011 and while it was not easy, I received the surgical pathology report while recovering in hospital (I was in for a week post op). The pathology report showed that I had an additional 1.6cm tumour in the cancerous right breast and that the 'healthy' left breast showed extensive multifocal LCIS.
I know that I made the right decision for me and was so glad that I listened to the intuitive voice inside that most of us women experience.
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I did. Mine was an incidental finding (3.8mm). I did not want to do this twice. I did a one step bilateral masectomy. Good luck- its so difficult. take care. Chocolate.
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I just got off the phone with my surgeon. I had a mri yesterday. They found my ILC was in fact 6.7 cm and they found a suspicious spot very near my chest wall on the right (non-cancer) side. It looks like I will be doing a bilateral. They will be doing a brca test on monday. If that comes back + I might look at overy removal, too. My bc is est and pro +.
How was ya'lls scars afterwards...?
Robin
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I was diagnosed almost 1 year ago. I asked my gyn what she would do and she said BMX with reconstruction. My surgeon said it was my only option with ILC. I was good with that because it was the only option I wanted. The TEs weren't fun but I wouldn't change my decision.It was kinda funny telling work I was going for a filling and then coming back bigger than when I left. Besides, now I have a new set of perky girls instead of one perky and one hanging. I ended up also having a hysterectomy in Dec. but kept 1 ovary. Now I don't have to worry about endometerial cancer while on Tamoxifen. I feel incredible and will be 1 year post BMX on June 8. Good luck.
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Sabre, I like your pic.
Thank you for telling me about you experience. My sugeon is against immediate reconstruction. My concern is the scars....have yours fadded? I see pics of the scars a week or so after surgery and it seems scary to me. I know that seems a bit vane.
Robin
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BirdyRobin,
I had BMX with tissue expanders in Dec, scars are not bad at all am my Plastic surgeon is going to give me new ones when he does my exchange this summer, since they have stretched abit with the expansions. Are you planning on reconstruction? There is a picture forum.
good luck and hugs to you.
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Christine,
Thank you for writing. I do want to have reconstruction. My bs said he wouldn't do immediate reconstructio because of the chances of infection. So sometime, I don't know how long, after my mx's I will have reconstruction. Are you happy with the expanders? From the illustrations I have seen they look good. Will they go upto a c+ cup do you know?
Thank you again. Robin
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Hi Deb,
I had "normal" mammos for a few years before ILC was found by me -at first thought to be quite small from ultrasound information, but after MRi was shown to be large enough for me to need a mastectomy. Once I knew I had to do one side, I decided to have the other done prophylactically. Nothing was found in the good breast, but I know that I am a worrier by nature, and would always be wondering what was going on in the left side. I have also become slightly phobic about tests and doctors, so the fewer visits the better.
It's such a hard decision to make under stress-I guess my advice would be for you to ask yourself how comfortable you will be with future testing and monitoring.
I had reconstruction 1 yr after mastectomies and got pretty good symmetry.
All the best to you,
Cat
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BirdyRobin,
I am happy with my results so far, the tissue expanders are not completely comfortable, but this is normal from what I read and they look good. I was a saggy D, before surgery (47 and breast feed 2 babies). I am aiming for a nice C cup. I will have my exchange this summer. A friend of mine was rushed into her masectomy without consult from a plastic surgeon, her reconstruction options maybe somewhat limited at this point. Even if you are not planning immediate reconstruction, get a plastic surgery opinion BEFORE your masectomy! I live in an area with only one plastic surgeon in town, so our general surgeons are always ready to operate, but often do not have patients consult with plastic surgeons first. I traveled an extra 30 miles to a larger teaching hospital and am so glad I did. Hope this helps!
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Cath,
Thanks. A year after mx's you had recon. How did you deal with that year? Did you wear something in particular? Bra's, cami's..? How comfortable were they?
Thank you all for answering my questions. You all are so kind.
Robin
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Christine,
It does help. I appreciate you honesty. If you had to do it again, would you?
Thanks so much
Robin
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BirdyRobin,
I absolutely would do the BMX with reconstruction again, I just finished chemo yesterday, so glad to have this over with. I am kickin breast cancer with all I have got. I had lumpectomy in good breast 3 years ago (B9), and just knew I did not want to do that again. Not looking back only forward! Not sure how old you are, I am 47, planning many more great years, with my new perky boobs.
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Perky boobs 
Lol, I am 45 years old. I think I could be happy with perky. I don't want to face this all again. Once is too many times. People have been kind here and I am glad we are all here for each other.
Robin
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I made the decision to do a BMX after they found what turned out to be 20 tumors in my right breast. Left side had two "pre-cancer" cysts. BS recommendation was a MX on the right, Lumpectomy on the left. I told him I loved him but didn't want to sit across from him again in 3 years and hear I needed a mx on the left. He said he could support my decision. Keep in mind no one believed it was in my lymph nodes when I went into surgery. MRI's all appeared clear. Turns out it was in 4/22 lymph nodes - a BMX was definitely the right choice....for me!
I did get expanders put in right away. A year later (4/19/11) I had my exchange surgery. I did chemo and rads. I will tell you that I am so grateful to have the expanders out but I can't really say I have perky boobs either. Everyone keeps saying give it time, it's only been a couple weeks so I am being patient.
My advice for you is to definitely ask a lot of questions and be sure you meet with a rad onc and plastic surgeon before you make your final decision. Get a good feel for what your options are.
Good luck!
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Oh thank you Jackie,
I think they may want to give me chemo before surgery (that was something my bs talked about) in which case I should have the time to talk to a ps about reconstruction. My dear, did you loose your hair? How did you cope? Did you do wig, hats....?
Thank uou your all so great.
Robin
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Hi all, I had a BMX without recon 9/2010. I haven't regretted my decision for even one second. I held off on recon so that it wouldn't delay my chemo and I didn't want to chance infection. My only recon option is DIEP so I was worried about freshly transplanted tissue trying to heal and then also, ruining that new tissue with rads. I had multifocal pleomorphic ILC.. the lump that I discovered was hazy on mammo but seen with ultrasound. Initially had lumpectomy in 7/2010. Then I transfered to ucla and when they did MRI, there was another "questionable" area near chest wall AND a couple "questionable" nodes. I immediately opted for BMX. Final path revealed 4 more tumors (only 1 of which was seen on MRI, 2 positive nodes (1 with extracapsular extension) and my other breast which was though to be clean had LCIS. My original lumpectomy tumor was 2.8cm and coincidentally, so was the tumor near my chest wall. All the others were under 1cm. My clean margin near chest wall was only 2mm. Had chemo, 38 rads and am on tamoxifen and currently getting zoladex injection. Just found out on Monday that I'm not metabolizing tamox, so thank GOD I insisted on zoladex 2 months ago because I started periods again right after chemo. Even though they put me on tamox during rads, I continued to have periods. I have to wait 6 months after rads for recon and I can't wait for my perky new boobs and tummy tuck, atleast I get a "boobie prize" for all my troubles LOL!! I will be adding a hyster/ooph to my surgery date. Obgyn will coordinate with my PS and do it all the same day. October can't come fast enough. Good luck to all of you on your journeys. I pray that everyone comes to the right decision for them. With that being said, ILC is a sneaky little b@tch and being only 37 when diagnosed and having 3 sons under 9, I wasn't about to mess around with this beast, she fights too dirty, haha! I just had a gut feeling that things weren't right and I went with that. Turns out I was unfortunately correct. Love, prayers and good juju to you all!! ~Xoxo~
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Hi Robin,
For the year before my reconstruction I wore a bra with pockets for breast forms, or went flat if I had a baggy sweater, etc., on.
Best,
Cat
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Cat, thanks again for answering my question.
Jals thank you for telling us about your experiences. This seems like a very long process. I am not looking forwards to. Just one month ago I thought everything was going to be fine. I didn't know I was sick, didn't feel sick, just extra-tired, sometimes. But, as they say you can't go back to that kind of inocence after diagnosis.Thank you all for your comments, I know that all of you strong women have survived this and I will too. Your examples are inspiring.
Robin
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Robin, I did lose my hair. Most BC chemo drugs (Cytoxan) cause you to lose your hair. It was more traumatizing to me than losing my breasts but I must admit I had fun with it. They predict that around day 14-18 of your chemo you hair starts to fall out. Mine was long and down past my shoulders. Once we got close to the 14th day I decided to have a shaving party. My husband shaved my head after I put my hair in a ponytail and cut it. I have to admit that it was like taking control! I did buy a wig (2 actually) but never wore them. Somehow the wig just made me feel like I was sick. So, I developed a new fetish - hats! I wore hats and doo rags the whole time. I have about 25 hats - all kinds - baseball caps, conductor style, page boy, floppy, bowler, visors with fuzzy hair on it. You name it I probably have it. I even have a pink Redskins (grew up in DC) hat signed by Brian Orakupu. The wigs sat on my dresser on their stands for the entire 8 months I was bald. My hair started coming back in around week 8 of Taxol and by radiation it was coming in nicely.
Hang in there you will see it all comes together. You will be on the other side of it before you know it!
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My MRI showed multiple abnormalities in the left breast; one was lobular and one was DCIS. I had previous calcifications/ADH biopsied on the opposite side. My surgeon fully supported me either way, but seemed to indicate that I had made a good decision when I decided on BMX rather than unilateral. Oddly, the right breast was totally clear on surgical pathology, but the left had an additional area of lobular dysplasia and multiple areas of ADH "sprinkled throughout the breast". I am convinced that I made the right decision.
I knew I wanted reconstruction. I imagined looking at myself with one "good" breast that I would always be worried about and one reconstructed breast. Somehow it seemed less upsetting to have a matched reconstructed set. For me, another reason to do both sides.
I strongly recommend that anyone thinking about mastectomy please at least inquire about nipple-sparing surgery. Although my recovery has not gone smoothly I still believe that NSM has been a major factor in how well I've done mentally since my BXM. I didn't cry when I saw myself after surgery. I had slightly smaller (only partially filled tissue expanders) "breasts" with my skin and my nipples staring back at me in the mirror. The mastectomy incisions were made below the breast so the breast "shells" looked just as they did before surgery. NSM isn't done everywhere and not everyone is a candidate, but it is worth looking into!
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Thank you for responding .
I see my bs tomorrow. He is suposed to give me more info about my MRI I had on Thursday, last.
Depending on everything he says I will bring up double mx then. I am supposed to do a MRI assisted biopsy on this Thursday. All of these tests are driving me a bit buggy. ****I want a plan****
Anyway, thank you for all the advice. I am gratefull we are here for each other.
Robin
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BirdyRobin: It's a tough journey, but I hope you'll find that once your plan is in place things will be a bit easier. I found that to be true and I've read the same over and over on these threads.
Hang in there!!!
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Tina,
Thanks, I am hanging. It's hard to be patient. Last Thursday I thought it would be done and I'd have a plan, but they found more cancer than originally was thought (6.7 cm instead of about 2 cm) so it is onto another test (they found something suspicious in my other breast) on Thursday.
Thank you dear, chin up.
Robin
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BirdyRobin: I feel for you. The waiting is so hard - waiting for appointments, waiting for phone calls, waiting, waiting, waiting! Yes, invasive lobular is very sneaky as it's sometimes difficult to find on imaging studies and often larger than initial tests indicate. Good luck with your upcoming test(s). I wish you all the best!
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I am like so many other stories about ILC. I had a clear mammogram in May so when I discovered a lump in August I was not prepared for a BC diagnosis. I was truly devastated by the diagnosis and was not able to think about reconstruction or taking the other breast prophylactically. After my uni-mx I found out that I am BRCA+ and am facing another mx. Now, of course, I wish I had a bilateral. You know what they say about hind sight. I am scheduled for my second mx in August. My biggest fear is that they will find cancer again.
Also, I read an article recently that said LCIS is a higher risk factor for BC than even ADH. I know it is a difficult choice and I wish you all the best!
Susan
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Bless you Sama,
Well, I had my brca test yesterday, and I talked to my bs about bi-mx. He seems to understand and support my decision, of course he gave me the low down on my options. Thursday ( I am starting to really dislike that day) I have an MRI assisted biopsy. I have read some info about those, but, they seem strange. How do they manage to use the needle inside the MRI unit? Any one beed through it before? Then again on Monday I have another bs apt. Monday. Tests Thursday results on Friday talk about it following Monday. Ugggg.
One new thing starting this week, I have a yoga class on Thursday. I am looking forward to that at least.
I am kind of cheeting on my diet tonight, I made lasagna. I have been pretty good ,I have cut out most red meat, but sometimes I still have it. LOL
Robin
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