April 2011 chemo

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  • pawprintgirl24
    pawprintgirl24 Member Posts: 173
    edited April 2011

    my port still annoyes me not really hurts... my dr said it could do that the entire time that it is in. but like a week then it shouldn't be hurting.

  • artiecat
    artiecat Member Posts: 257
    edited April 2011

    pawprintgirl24 - - - you are "allowed" to have all these feelings!  Even though it is hard to deal with since we are all about being strong and all that #*@.   (Just think pressure cooker!)  My VT dtr left last night and I had a hard time holding the tears until they drove away to the airport.

    I read part of an article in Oprah mag about a study that showed that people with cancer who do express their feelings have less trips to the doctor.   

    determined3 - I had little pain with my port, just uncomfortable.  The tight feeling in the neck finally stopped for the most part.

    Yee ha!

  • jackifp
    jackifp Member Posts: 185
    edited April 2011

    Carla, re: food - the onc nurse who did my chemo teaching mentioned eating only canned or well-cooked foods, saying it's to avoid any chance of bacterial infection. Don't know if yours was said for the same reason. I guess it comes down to a personal choice, since I can't imagine not eating fresh fruits and salad veggies, even if it's just a little bit at a time because of heartburn from chemo. My biggest food challenge has been the 95g of protein daily suggested by several cancer sites and my naturopath - I doubt I've ever eaten that much protein in a day in my life. Also, raised on black beans and rice as I was, I'm ignoring advice to stay away from strong-flavored foods as long as I can. I'm cringing at the thought of my taste buds telling me yuck to my favorite foods.

  • jackifp
    jackifp Member Posts: 185
    edited April 2011

    Pawprintgirl and others: Is it the Herceptin that's causing leg cramps? 3 days out from first TCH, and only feeling a bit peckish with heartburn, and feeling good enough to teach teenagers all day...and I get home to have the fiercest leg cramps. I walked the driveway and the stairs a bunch, and that helped some, and DH's leg rubs helped some, but I felt all night like cramps were a twinge away.



    My sympathies go out to those of us having it hard. It sure is good to be able to share on here.

  • christine47
    christine47 Member Posts: 1,454
    edited April 2011

    Hello to you April chemo girls,

    I am a Jan girl and we are all on the home stretch with our chemo treatments.  Looks like you have a great group going, you will be amazed how well you "know" each other in a few months.

    Not feeling so good today, so home reading posts.  Noticed alot of you are complaining of heartburn, mine was terrible after my first tx, my onc then gave me rx for Protonix, all the difference in the world.  Remember to talk to your docs, there are great meds for side effects, don't suffer if you do not need to.  I never took any meds before my diagnosis, now I have a bunch of pills, and I have decieded that it is ok.  Never thought I would take anything for sleep or anxiety, but right now is not the time to be sleep deprived.  Onc gave rx for ambien, amazing how much better you can feel after a good nights sleep. 

    Artiecat, I have had severe neutropenia (white counts less than 1!) after every TAC around day 7, despite Neulasta, by day 10, my counts rise to about 12.  You absolutely need to stay away from sick people and crowds when you are very low.  Hang in there.

  • CarlaB76
    CarlaB76 Member Posts: 74
    edited April 2011

    pawprintgirl24 - I'm the last person to comment about my port and pain. Yell It still hurts, I'm icing it a couple times a day.  And after a MX and TRAM, my port hurts the most.  But after an hour of some super anti-coagulant, we finally got a decent blood return yesterday, so it does not look like I need a 3rd port surgery.  Real test is on infusion #2 (may 2nd).

    Thanks for the comments about food.  Yes, the big concern is bacteria and resulting infections.  What's challenging is that my husband usually does a large garden every year with incredible amounts of produce and I can't imagine not partaking.  But I'll be good for as long as I can.  I've gotten the most benefit out of going to plastic cutlery instead of our daily stainless.  Since I've done that, the metallic taste and weird mouth feel have decreased.

    Off to bed now chicas.  We get to do it again tomorrow!  Hope you all sleep well (fingers crossed for my Ambien CR to work like a charm).

  • pawprintgirl24
    pawprintgirl24 Member Posts: 173
    edited April 2011

    carla i have to lay down with my shoulder back for them to get it hopefully that is the trick next week!! i feel human again today!!!the herceptin did make my legs a little week feeling but the shot the week before was sooo achie for me i couldn't tell what was what i got so many meds!!! we are missing my friend.....soontobe????i hope you are doing well!!

    ain't this fun!?!?!?! Kiss lets have a great day gals!!!

  • artiecat
    artiecat Member Posts: 257
    edited April 2011

    Thanks for the support Christine47 - doc rxed cipro.  I, too, never tok any meds prior to this - now my cabinet runneth over! 

    CarlaB76, I love the Goethe quote - thanks for the reminder.

  • Rowan47
    Rowan47 Member Posts: 151
    edited April 2011

    Hi all you lovely ladies. I am starting on April 26th, same treatment plan as kiwimum. Which part of NZ do you live in?? I am in Christchurch, you know, the one with the shakey ground!! I am getting more nervous everyday. Have dear husband and 4 children. All very supportive, but am finding it hard to stay calm as D-day approaches. Think maybe the waiting is the hardest part....

  • KiwiMum
    KiwiMum Member Posts: 704
    edited April 2011

    Hi Rowan47. Welcome to the club no one wants to join! I'm based in Auckland. Hopefully things are starting to settle down in Chch!



    I'm on day 4 post chemo and feeling better than yesterday. We can do this ... at times the end seems so far away. 1 AC down, 3 to go. Then 12 x T after that. I've been reading the AC to Taxol thread. Taxol seems much more doable with less side effects.



    Really having to force food down! I'm not hungry at all and have been feeling so blah. Rang my onc last night who upped my nausea meds! Very grateful.



    Today is Easter Friday in NZ. My girls can't wait to get into the Easter eggs! Here's to a better day ahead!



  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2011

    Had my second chemo yesterday. This time the fasting really seemed to help. (I fast with just water 62 hours before and 24 hours after; look up Valter Longo's research at USC for details.)

    I was a bit sick last night, but up and out of bed today, unlike last time. I probably could have gone in to work.Only problem is my life seems totally empty somehow. I think I'm officially getting depressed, which is awful since I am usually so positive.

    Determined: My port stopped hurting after about four days, and was totally healed within a week, but even now it still hurts at night if I sleep on that side with my shoulder hunched over it.

    Blessings to all my unfortunate but way strong sisters going through all this.

  • shoema
    shoema Member Posts: 27
    edited April 2011

    The first week hasn't been so bad. I was very happy when the steroids wore off. That "high" was not fun! Having trouble getting my Neupogen shot, having it at home and it is taking forever for my insurance to approve it and get it to me. I have been house bound for 2 days and will be over the weekend because of low wbc. The Big C got me and I am in misery. I think this has probably been the worst of all the SEs. I DREAD going! Colace is my night in shining armor, I just forgot to get it going soon enough. Next time!!

    Heartburn continues but I find it isn't as bad if I eat very slowly and not too much. 

  • axtella
    axtella Member Posts: 88
    edited April 2011

    I got my first wig which I ordered online. Its too dark! LOL We are all cracking up..My hubby says woohoo Jersey Shore! My hiar is strawberry blonde but I thought I would try light brown...oh no no no lol!

    on the port --

    I had such a stiff neck I had to see the massage therapist...My neck is much better this week and not hurtings at all. 

     

  • geocachelinda
    geocachelinda Member Posts: 223
    edited April 2011

    Welcome DeeBee!  Determined mine is still a little sore after a week.  I really didn't have much pain from it.  Day 8 for me.  Strange pain, sore feeling from waist down.  Hair still hangin' in there!  I had my Nuelasta shot a week ago and am having bone pain now?  Not sure if that is it or just the chemo.. I'm even sore "down there".  Husband is feeling "marital rights" stress right now but I don't care! I am going back tomorrow for more blood test to see if it is coming up.  Sore feeling in throat like a sore lump.  Canker sores one day but they are getting better.  Day 9 tomorrow!

  • geocachelinda
    geocachelinda Member Posts: 223
    edited April 2011

    Axtella, send it back for a lighter one!  I like the look but my hair is naturally that color actually!  Your blue eyes are so pretty!

  • axtella
    axtella Member Posts: 88
    edited April 2011

    Thanks Linda...hubby likes it...He said he has a new lady lol

  • geocachelinda
    geocachelinda Member Posts: 223
    edited April 2011

    I get to go try on different ones Tuesday at the ACS HopeClub our local chapter!  I hope they have some nice ones.

  • kg1234
    kg1234 Member Posts: 95
    edited April 2011

    Hey ladies, feeling like sh** again today.  Went for bloodwork, apparently it's okay.  I'm just hoping for one feel-good day.  Just one!!!

    Got a wig too yesterday and a nice headwrap thingie...nice and soft for summer.

    Dr. said no more neupogen shots (i only had 3) and I'm breathing better.  Just feel like I got hit by a truck, and went drinking all night last night.  I know I'm not dehydrating (drinking tons of water)....and my mouth is off-kilter again.  Had to take nausea meds again today.  Today is day 7 post-chemo.

    Today is the first day I'm thinking to myself: wow- I have 15 more weeks of feeling like this?  wow.  I don't know if I can do it.  I'm hoping for a better day tomorrow and maybe I'll feel like I can really do this.

    Thanks for listening,

    Kg.

  • artiecat
    artiecat Member Posts: 257
    edited April 2011

    kg1234:

    YES YOU CAN!!!!!!  Hang in there!

  • Merilee
    Merilee Member Posts: 3,047
    edited April 2011

    KG and Windlass

    Sounds like both of you could benifit from some type of distraction. Do you have hobbies that you could resurect from before your lives got to busy to incorperate them? For me it is gardening and it has been a life saver by giving me something fun to focus on besides feeling like shit.

    Annie: Your wig is very cute even if it is darker, it looks great and so do you.

  • scc218
    scc218 Member Posts: 163
    edited April 2011

    Geocachelinda -- I had the most excruciating low back pain I've ever had at 3:00 a.m. on day 6 after my Neulasta injection.  Wow!  It was so bad, I was in tears, and I consider myself to have a high pain tolerance.  The nurse had told me that it would be most prominent/painful at sites of previous injuries -- I had fractured my low back in a car accident 35 years ago.  Anyway, my hubby got up (at 3:00 a.m.!) and made me a hot pack.  I also took 2 Tylenol Extra Strength Rapid Release gel caps and was able to get back to sleep.  I have some pain meds on standby, but I don't like to take them.  Fortunately, the pain lasted less than 24 hours.  I just kept taking the Tylenol every 4 hours to make it bearable.  Hope you feel better soon.

    Annie -- your wig is so cute!  Very stylish!

    My hair is still hanging in there (day 14 after 1st chemo), but I'm going to local ACS gift closet today or Monday to choose a wig, so I'm ready, and some breast prostheses (I don't want to wear "foobs" but DH would like a litle "something" there -- maybe when we go out to dinner or whatever; definitely not all the time.  I LOVE not having to wear a bra).

    Ain't this fun??!!  We can do it!!  Collectively....as a group....all in the same boat.....crying on each other's shoulders whenver we want 24/7.....we can do it!!! 

  • Merilee
    Merilee Member Posts: 3,047
    edited April 2011

    Of coarse we can do it! To put things in perspective for myself I think about the size of my tumor, less that 2 cm, compared to the rest of my body that is perfectly healthy. We just need to get through this treatment so that the remaining healthy cells don't pick up any bad habits from that sneaky,evil little bastard that was hacked out of us.

    Remember- the majority of your body is healthy.

  • DeeBee
    DeeBee Member Posts: 20
    edited April 2011

     Good morning all - I had a pretty bad night with the nausea night 1 after the frist AC but I thought I was hanging in there with the nausea meds on schedule and that is what to expect.  When I go to the hospital for the Neulasta shot the next AM, the nurse said 'you shouldn't be like this' and got the dr. who said 'we are going to fix this and put me back in the chair for IV fluids and meds for about 5 hours.  I feel pretty much like myself this morning - slept well and took the nausea meds but preventatively because they said to not becuse I am feeling the need.  Did need the tylenol for headache.  So now I guess I just wait to see what the Neulasta shot will do and try to eat healthy stuff til the next round.  Oh, and I have to go pick up the wig.  Thanks again for the advice leading up to this. 

  • kg1234
    kg1234 Member Posts: 95
    edited April 2011

    Hey ladies,

    Today is a new day, and feeling better already.  Okay, so maybe I can do this.  I think I was just so sick and tired, of being sick and tired.  And it was a really yucky day yesterday, glad it's behind me!

    Yes, we can do this!!!!!  Today I want sunshine and rainbows and butterflies.  And I want to feel this good all day.

    Kg.

  • kg1234
    kg1234 Member Posts: 95
    edited April 2011

    Oh and thanks Artiecat!!!  Yes, we can.

    Merilee - just got dirt delivered yesterday and hubby is making gardening beds.  I've always wanted a garden of my own, and I put my foot down and now it's happening.  If I remain feeling well (cross fingers) we are off to a garden shop today and pick out seeds and starter veggies and fruit.  

    scc218 sorry about your pain- yes we can do it!  we have to :)

    Alright, off to enjoy feeling good for a change. :) here's hoping it lasts.

    Kg.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2011

    Hi, everyone: So today my hair is officially falling out, 16 days after my first A/C chemo. That's despite spending $1,000+ on Penguin Cold Caps, two big Igloo coolers, 200 lbs of dry ice, and $250 to pay someone to go with me and my husband to South Boston twice to help us put them on. I have long, beautiful red hair (nearly waist length, like my avatar), so this is breaking my heart. I spent more time crying this morning than I ever thought I would. Thanks for all the encouragement here. You gals are a life line.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2011

    p.s. I have an appointment with the wig people tomorrow at 10:30 to get the rest of my precious hair cut off and to pick out a replacement. Wish me luck.

  • scc218
    scc218 Member Posts: 163
    edited April 2011

    Windlass -- I am so sorry to hear about your hair loss.  My heart aches for you.  I actually contemplated doing the cold caps but then decided it wasn't worth it for me because I don't have long beautiful hair.  I can only imagine how sad it makes you.  Thinking of you....

    I just got back from our local ACS gift closet, and they gave me 2 wigs, 4 hats, 4 bras, and 2 fake boobs!  What a nice service they provide!  My husband went with me and helped me pick out the items.  I'm not crazy about wearing "cranial prostheses" or foobs, but I'm sure they'll be nice to have when we go out to dinner or whatever. 

    Hang in there, everybody.  Thinking of you all.  And I hope everyone has a nice Easter weekend. 

  • Merilee
    Merilee Member Posts: 3,047
    edited April 2011

    Windlass, why not donate your hair. Someone will make a lovely wig for a person in need. Or you could cast it out for the birds to make a their nests with. Just a few Ideas. You are lovely, and that comes from inside, not from your hair. Hugs, I know it is hard but you are strong and will come out on the other side of this even more so. I may need you to repeat these words back to me when my goes in a few weeks.

    Merilee

  • cellomomof5
    cellomomof5 Member Posts: 71
    edited April 2011

    Popping in from March...

    Windlass - I'm so sorry about your hair - especially after all that effort and expense to hang on to it. I didn't have gorgeous long red hair, but my hair has always been thick and glossy and I've worn it long, and I was really bummed to lose it.  With the fourth round of AC finished, and T-DM1 in the future, I'm hoping that I will start regrowth in the next few months. It won't be that long before you're there, too, even though I know it seems like it. 

    To those of you who have mentioned feeling depressed - I don't know if it helps, but I found with each of the four AC cycles that a heavy, lifeless depression would kick in beginning Day 3, and not begin to lift until day 6 or 7.  Don't know what contributes to it: the AC, the Neulasta, the steroid withdrawal, all three? but it was like clockwork and pretty awful each time.  I look forward to the end of i! 

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