For Older People with Sense

Chrissy, we're excited here when it gets up to 58!!! It was there on Thursday and we were walking around without coats on!!! hehehehehehehhe   This temp at the end of summer seems like the end of the world, but now, it's the beginning of Spring! woo hoo!!!

I am following you around BarbA.....not really but you just seem to be in front of me today on posts.   FB is all messed up again for some reason and I have been messing with that.  Computers are just not my thing....Skype is a poor connection, FB has just disappeared, my posts get lost half the time.....and here you make a living with them !!  Ah well, different strokes for different folks as they say.  ZUMBA!!!, 3jays!   Are you serious?   I have watched them do that at the Life Center my Dad goes to and then they were doing a demo at some festival I went to last summer.....that is one heck of a workout and not something I could do, that's for sure.  Barbe, know exactly what you mean about temps....it is all relative...what seems warm in Spring is cold in Fall....guess we have been conditioned to think that way.  Yesterday I had lunch with a friend from highschool at a restaurant on the river and we ate inside because it got too hot out on the balcony.  But this is a teasing time of year and probably we will get one more snow shower before Spring is officially here....however the trees and flowers do not know that and it looks like Spring. 

I had bulbs one year that didn't know what to do! They would start to open, get snowed on and close then start again....and the cycle went on. Finally it was too hot for them and they never grew! We had no Spring that year - went right into a very hot Summer.

hey  gals, up all nite, so wanted to jump in when i got up.my son is THE worst; we've tried calling..no answer..so, we haven't a clue when the "babysitting" commensences. i ve decided that 2 is usally bedtime, so we'll go get him soon. he can nap(or not) then, the pool, and a movie here. dinner is made, needs to be warmed up. so, with no communications, thats' the plan. so, im sure NONE of that will happen. we'll just be ready to roll, as need be. we ;ove spending time with the wonderboy, so its' all good...

    anyone having a hard time at night, theres' anew thread "for insomniacs" so check it out.. there's a few die hards, and ple drop in..

   sorry the weather has turned on you, Chrissy, but i always say the same thing.. good for the garden. not so good s

Ok Ladies here goes

10/12 inch tube pan, grease and flour, 350 degree oven........Bake 1hr-1hr 10 minutes....judge yourself for doneness.

Sour Cream Pound Cake

2 sticks soften butter

3 cups sugar

3cups flour (sift)

1tsp vanilla

6 eggs (room temp)

1 cup sour cream

1/4 tsp baking soda

1/2 tsp salt.

Cream butter and sugar, add vanilla, add eggs 1 at a time,

Combine, flour, b. soda, salt

Add flour mixture to wet ingredients alternating with sour cream, and ending with flour.

Put in the tube pan, smooth, and bake for 1 hr. to 1hr 10 minutes...........Cool, then remove from pan.

Sprinkle with 10x sugar...........Enjoy

QCA, Maybe the recipe is one and the same.  I always thought the fudge my grandmother made was her recipe and then I found it somewhere, exactly and it was Mamie Eisenhour's fudge recipe.  Whichever, it sounds like a very good recipe and I will have to make it sometime...I mean how can you go wrong with two sticks of butter. We had the thunder storms also and buckets of rain.

  I could relate to much of your post, Ducky....I like your son's MIL do not read about the SE's....they give me the papers at the onco's when I start a new drug and I will glance at and think Oh, these are about the same ones they mentioned with the last one, but have found from my own experience I often had the opposite of what they tell you to expect.  Like on this one I said to my onco, I thought you told me I was going to get diarrhea and he said I told you that you could get diarrhea....well, let me tell you I have never been so constipated in my life...also this one is not supposed to cause neuropathy, but something is making my feet go numb again and I have one heck of a time with buttons.  When I was on tamoxifen about my only complaint and believe me I voiced it when they weighed me each week, was weight gain, but I know many who have been on it and did not gain a pound, in fact one of my friends actually lost weight while she was on it....and I did have the aches and pains when I was doing AI's, but I didn't realize it at the time and can't remember if they never told me that would happen or if I just did not pay attention or what, but I honestly thought I had arthritis....I was actually taking arthritis meds and got rid of a coupe I had because it was just way too difficult for me to get in and out of it and I remember having people help pull me up out of a chair if it was too deep and my feet hurt all the time.   I just never put it all together and it was not until after I was off the AI's and the symptoms went away that I thought Ah ha, it must have been the meds.  It came on so slowly that I  just sort of adjusted to the aches and pains and they weren't so terrible that they kept me from doing things or going places or being able to work.  And for me, they really worked..with me they were being used as treatment rather than preventative.....tamox shrunk my tumors by 50% and kept me in remission for several years and the aromasin worked best of all for me....took my tumor markers all the way down to 18 and I was on that one for I think three years.....faslodex I thought a snap because all I did was get a monthly shot so there was no danger of me forgetting to take my pill and I must tolerate shots well because getting the injection never really bothered me( maybe due to the fact, I have lots of padding) ....the nurses would always say Sorry and I would say, it's OK, really. We all react differently....for some of the women on these boards, the SEs were awful and I know some of them quit the hormonal drugs, but there are others who sail through their 5 years. Nancy soulds pretty resilient and 23 yrs is great.  In looking back I often wonder IF I had done tamoxifen as a preventative if I would have avoided mets, but that is something I will never know.  I did not have rads, nor did they ever suggest them after I had my mastectomy so I am afraid I cannot help you with that one.  

Hope you didn't wear yourself out today 3jays.  I am not being an ostrich....the MRI is already scheduled for the 18th....I just don't like to think about what they might be looking for so that is what I am avoiding, thinking about it, but that is easier said than done.  Today I went shopping since that is always good therapy. So far as the memory test goes, I know I would fail it....I can tell you the lyrics to most songs from the late 60's, early 70's, what I wore on a date, but I can have things by the door that I want to take to work with me and I walk right by then and don't even remember I forgot them until I am getting out of the car.  I am what my grandmother would call addled.  Maybe I will check out the insomniac thread tonight.   Where is our fearless leader this evening?...remember that from Rocky and Bullwinkle. 

Dragon, I'll never tell about the gummy bears if you won't tell anybody that my favorite supper in the world is creamed dried beef on toast!  Yes, the Armour dried beef in a jar.  My dad loved it, so I just grew up with it.  I also like dried beef sandwiches on white bread with lots of mayonnaise!  But, I haven't hed one of those in a long time.

Now that strawberries are coming in, I agree that that cake would be a great shortcake base.  There are a lot of places around here where you can go and pick your own or they'll pick for you.  

Hey, Marybe. I don't like to read too much about side effects either because I'm a very suggestible person.  If I read it, I'm likely to have it.  Like your grandmother said, I also think I'm addled.  I'm notorious for leaving my grocery list at home, and even when I take it I often leave out things that were on the list.  I'm glad you got the MRI scheduled and I hope it will do nothing but relieve your mind.  I'll be thinking good thoughts for you, and many hugs!!

Looks like the bad weather is over now, but we did have another storm with more hail since my last post.  Tomorrow's supposed to be sunny and hot--86 degrees in April!

Kathy

QCA you made me hungry.  I too love creamed chipped beef.

Many women do actually have their ovaries removed so it was not a stupid thought at all. 

The chipped beef on toast is called S...on a Shingle right?   

oh, here i am in the middle of the night again. two hrs in the pool with Fischer, and when he went down, so didn't we. one hot flash, and here i am!

   Marybe; i know how scared you are to hear any bad news. i was terrified, as you know.. but, finding anything is wrong, you'll get to fight it. my prayers are we're just getting to be old fogies; and our memories are failing us.

   my therapist says PTSD comes with the territory of chemo; for sure, and you've done the gamut there, girlfrined. im thinkin your just fiine, and we'll be celebrating being just old farts with short memory loss soon!!!

    had a ball today, but am really pooped. I worked for Richard Simmons for years, disabled classes, wheelchairs, and overweight.. ya know; ladies like me.!! so, i've gotten really good at changing the excercises to fit my abilities.. i bought the DVDS from HSN: so i have 30 days to try it an see.

   i love to dance, esp merengue and salsa, so i think i'll really like it!

   went to the LE therapist friday, and got 5 new excersizes to do. some for LE, tweo for my hips. didn't know how frozen they had gotten in the past two years. im always moving, stretching.. its' what i have to do to stay out of the chair..these new exercies are tough ones on the knees, and i'll have to watch them with zumba, but im excited to try..

     i did rebounder for awhile, but ive had ms so long, ive lost the ability to "launch" myself for a jump. it got to be a pain to try....

   good to "see" all you ladies..    3jays

Sleep well 3jays.

Sunday evening here after a very pleasant day with little stress. Went out after church and had lunch at a cafe then wandered down a little wharf and watched some classic yachts racing on the harbour and came home the very long way.

I just get so uptight aboutr being made to feel quilty when its my house and we are supporting my sister because of choices she mad in her life. It's not my fault she is in the situation she is in. If she wasn't here she wouldn't be able to do half the things she does. Sorry needed tovent.

Full of aches and pains tonight, not sure if its the RA, SEs or what. Never mind a good bath will lift the spirits - I know I shouldn'e with my LE but it does the arthritis a lot of good.

Tomorrow is Mainly
Music with my wee girl, that's fun and I get to see a cousin I had lost touch with. She takes her grandson so we have a 'Granny corner'  as there is quite a group of us.

Hope your days are all restful.

Big hugs.

ducky,

Removing the ovaries to reduce estrogen is a common practice in pre menopausal women.  So you asking about it is not silly at all. Quite smart for it to occur to you. However, when a women is truly post menopausal they are not really do ing much. Estrogen is also produced in the  adrenal glands and fat cells and that is where we older women are getting it from. I do not think the ovaries are an issue anymore... but do check with your doctor as I could be wrong. 

So losing weight is a good thing. Especially if you store it around your midsection. Avoiding soy which is a natural way to raise estrogen levels helps. There is a lot of  info in the natural girls thread about this subject. Exercise is supposed to be good but I  do not know why or if it really lowers estrogen or just is a generally healthy thing to do.

Let us know what your doctor does say about ovaries in us older women. I would like to know.

Oh, I got it, Barbe! Exercise turns fat to muscle... so less fat to make estrogen. But not necessarily resulting in weight loss.  Makes sense. 

I usually walk 2-3 miles each AM but I twisted my ankle a couple months ago and it keeps swelling so trying to limit activity. I am not a "natural" exerciser but boy, I miss my daily walk. It really seemed to help me get pulled together physically and mentally each day. Plus I have a walking buddy and we talked the whole time... nearly had all the world's problems solved. So far I have not gained weight but I am  watching the scale closely

DH says he was taught a woman should weigh 100 lbs at 5' tall, then add 5 lbs for every inch more. So you are pretty close to ideal, Barbara.

I was wondering... you know how we tend to shrink a little as we get older? Does that mean we have to lose 5 lbs if we lose an inch? I have always - always - been 5'7" but was just measured at the Dr's office and am officially 5' 6 1/2" tall. I don't like this!

I am on the lean side so I feel pretty good about that for BC reasons. But it is true that a little extra fat fills out the wrinkles. I could use a little plumping up in my face and maybe my arms. Could they move the little pouches around my waist to my neck? 

Marybe, I love fried mush with maple syrup. Yummm!

Exercise: BarbA, doesn't all your "on the go" count as exercise? Your briefcase as weight-bearing? Rushing through an airport as heart-thumping? I dunno, but in your pix you look pretty fit.  

pj, I wish I had a walking buddy. Hope your ankle gets better soon!  I love to walk, but not so much alone, and my walking buddy-neighbor's knee gave out.  So I walk laps in our driveway.  I'm lean too, and had planned to gain a few pounds at this point in life to fill out the wrinkles, but now that plan has gone out the window.  Wrinkles it is.

We live in the mtns and mainly heat with wood, and we spend lots of time raking & yard work, garden &c, so I don't worry too much about exercise - haven't found any I could stick with.  Mopping my wood floors raises my heart rate; hauling wood counts as weight-bearing...and so on.... But, I do things like ankle weights or wrist weights during some days, just to add some extra oomph...especially if I'm stuck inside. We'll see as the DXA scans progress!

SoCal Lisa, when you took AIs, did you supplement with calcium? How much? 

Alyson, your sister is very fortunate to have you!  She probably resents you because you made better decisions and now she 'has' to rely on you.  

Anyone remember the old grasshopper and the ant fable? The ants worked during the summer while the grasshopper played; and when winter came, the ant was cozy while grasshopper froze? Something like that - CRS!....

3Jays, I love your comix and sense of humor, and your courage.

Have a very pleasant day, all.  

p.s.  Last week I took 6 boxes, 140#, of old paperwork to the document shredding place! (cost $33)   Still working at cleaning up "my old life.".... Hah.