Taxotere is a nightmare

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  • marjie
    marjie Member Posts: 1,134
    edited April 2011
    Slainte - I have days where I just go, go, go, but then the next day I pay for it!!  I've just learned that I need to slow down and take it easy (not that I always do!!).  Ofcourse the radiation wipes me out too, but I know my onc originally said to expect at least 6 months to recover.
  • Slainte
    Slainte Member Posts: 152
    edited April 2011

    Thanks everyone! You have all made me feel better. I think I may be setting my goals a bit high for right now, and then when I can't do what I think I should I feel like a looser lol. And all the joint pain, it really gets me down especially when I can't sleep. I have to try to remember that everyone is different and we all recover at our own pace. :)



    Christine

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited April 2011

    Also remember if you had the major surgeries (mx, bmx, etc) I was told it takes at least a year for all that to heal. Healing takes energy out of your body. I also find on days when I am in discomfort (these last few expansions were very uncomfortable) that my energy will be zapped dealing with pain.

  • sandymess
    sandymess Member Posts: 299
    edited April 2011

    I am 8 weeks PFC and still exhausted! Of course, I am also doing rads, but I never got strength back in the interim. I was told it can take months, so I'm not beating myself up BUT I am pretty frustrated. There are things I would like to do and I just can't get to them yet. And yes, the aches and pains don't help the fatigue at all!

  • Mimidi
    Mimidi Member Posts: 231
    edited April 2011

    Because of an allergic reaction to taxotere I am having to change to abraxane.  Instead of every week I will have three weeks of abraxane and then a week off.  This will add about three more weeks to my chemo.  I hope the new med is easier that the taxotere.

  • marjie
    marjie Member Posts: 1,134
    edited April 2011

    OMG - my chemo brain is getting worse and worse!  I was with my daughter today driving to Costco and I finally had to say "where are we going???".  Here we were driving WAY out of the way, and my daughter doesn't want to say anything in case I would get upset, LOL.

  • tracie23
    tracie23 Member Posts: 598
    edited April 2011

    So funny Marjie... I do that all the time!!!! I get myself so confused as to what I am supposed to be doing that I get all worked up... Than I look around and I have messes all over and don't even remember making them... I had a meeting at my daughters school and I looked at the notes and I don't remember half of that meeting. I hope this gets better because It is not safe for others with my brain the way it is LOL.

  • marjie
    marjie Member Posts: 1,134
    edited April 2011

    Oh Tracie - Sorry, but I am so glad to hear you are doing stuff like me.  You're right...my house is a flippin' mess because I start things and get distracted and move on to something else so everything is half done.  When I think about going back to work this summer I'm hoping to remember to tell them to stock up on Post-It notes and "reminder" pads LOL.

  • MaggieMc2
    MaggieMc2 Member Posts: 54
    edited April 2011

    I love reading these boards because I feel like the ladies here are the only people who really know firsthand what we are all going through. Plus, the humor really helps!

    I had my last taxotere on March 15. The chemo brain is gone, but I do remember telling my husband that he couldn't trust me to remember anything the week after chemo (like..."did you feed the dog?,....hmmmm, i dunno..."). I just felt like a gray curtain had been drawn around me. However, that said, the fatigue is hanging on like a stalker. I am having BMX this coming Thursday, so I don't expect to be doing handstands anytime soon. I still have 5 weeks of rads, and from what I read on the radiation boards, fatigue is a common SE. So when will the energy come back? I really miss my eyelashes, but I mostly miss feeling like my old self. Now I just feel old....Of course none of this compares to the 3rd day after chemo, when the bone pain and all over achiness engulfed me. So I AM grateful for that... and I'm especially grateful that my recent MRI showed no evidence of the previously noted ILC,so the chemo did indeed do what it was designed to do.But I look forward to the day when I can say that I'm only tired because we spent a whirlwind week on a trip and we walked all over... pick one...Paris, Rome, or even Pittsburgh!

  • sandymess
    sandymess Member Posts: 299
    edited April 2011

    MaggieMc2: I hear you on the fatigue! I finished Taxotere and Cytoxin on March 9 and started rads on February 9. I never got any energy back in between. I like to write and have a book almost completed but I haven't even been able to do that. I should be finished with rads May 2 and the RO told me I probably won't have any energy until mid-summer or later. Ugh!

  • Linda-n3
    Linda-n3 Member Posts: 2,439
    edited April 2011

    Just checking in with all the Taxotere ladies.  I'm still hanging in there, still have significant fatigue and neuropathy, but am finding a little more energy each day.  I am participating in a yoga study to see if there is an improved quality-of-life for cancer survivors taking yoga (I'm pretty sure there's going to be a positive result).  Margie, lago, Tracie, Sandymess, Christine, Maggie, and everyone else – thinking of you often and sending positive vibes your way.

  • christine47
    christine47 Member Posts: 1,454
    edited April 2011

    hi Linda,

    I am still hanging in there, had my 5th treatment on Friday, one more and I am done.  The neuropathy I have in my heels is staying about the same, onc says usually will improve 95% in one year, lets hope.  He offered me meds (lyrica, but I do not have pain, just some burning and numbness).  My fatigue has gotten worse, I expected that, so waiting to be done and regain strength.  THe yoga study sounds fun, I have not even attempted much more than an occasional walk, but will do better with end of treatment and better weather, I hope.  How far out from treatment are you?

  • EmilyInOntario
    EmilyInOntario Member Posts: 626
    edited April 2011

    Checking in too...this is day 12 following my first taxotere. Still very tired and taste buds haven't come back yet but feeling a bit better each day. The severe lower leg pains I had in both legs subsided after 5 days. For those of you ahead of me...when would the nail issues or neuropathy begin? Have I passed the mark?

  • christine47
    christine47 Member Posts: 1,454
    edited April 2011

    EmilyinOntario,

    I started to having the numbness after my 2nd treatment, got a bit worse after 3rd, but now about the same.  My fingernails and toenails have done fine (5 treatments done), no changes as all.  I know some of the ladies have iced, I have not, so I am lucky.  My taste buds are bad usually for about 5-7 days, then some recovery, after each cycle, but not completely.  Hang in there!

  • Fighter_34
    Fighter_34 Member Posts: 834
    edited April 2011

    A tip ladies start taking Biotin once you are half way through tx and your hair should really start spourting shortly after you finish. Hang in there.

    As for me I am waiting on exchange surgery, set for 6/9/2011. So ready to be done and enjoying life again.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2011

    GO, GIRLS, GO !!!

  • EmilyInOntario
    EmilyInOntario Member Posts: 626
    edited April 2011

    Fighter..can you tell me what Biotin is? Having hair again is an exciting prospect!

  • christine47
    christine47 Member Posts: 1,454
    edited April 2011

    I want hair too!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2011
    Was browsing and came upon this stat:  Docetaxel is marketed worldwide under the name Taxotere by Sanofi-Aventis. Annual sales approx $2bn. Is that 2 billions?
  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited April 2011

    I'm checking it too. Today is 12 weeks from my last chemo. Granted I still had to go in for Herceptin this morning.

    Hair is growing. I hope to be topless in 2-3 weeks. It of course came in a bit more gray but now it's black too, including the eyebrows. I used to have dark brown but this is really black! Oh, and those eyebrows I over plucked in jr.high… not a problem anymore. I guess I got a "do over".

    Biotin. I was taking 5mg before chemo so I never stopped.

    Left heel still numb but it doesn't really bother me. Sort of a non issue IMO. My NP says that's going to take along time to go away but it will go away.

    Nails are improving. Fingernail beds still a little sore. Toenails look like crap or are still MIA. today's photo.  

    Stiffness is gone. Well OK I'm still a little stiff from Friday but that's my own fault. I did strength training that included 40 squats, 20 lunges, 40 crunches and a bunch of other stuff. Back thighs are still a bit stiff from that. Tongue out But chemo stiffness is gone. Let see how I feel tomorrow after I strength train later this afternoon.

    Vision not only came back I now no longer have astigmatism. I can now purchase glasses over the counter. Go figure.

    Still having some issues with heartburn but it seems to be getting better. I slowly stopped the heartburn meds after chemo so I'm not on anything now. I think it  just takes time for things to get back to normal.

    So basically I'm doing great! Just need to get these stripper boobs exchange for the implants on May 27th. I know I got a little wordy but I wanted to let you know you will eventually become yourselves again.

  • EmilyInOntario
    EmilyInOntario Member Posts: 626
    edited April 2011

    Lago...sounds like you are on the upswing... great news...and your vision actually improved?? Wow..

  • TonLee
    TonLee Member Posts: 2,626
    edited April 2011

    Lago....wow, thanks!  That's good news all round.

    Can't wait for the fluid retention and stiffness to leave my thighs!!  So hard to work out with that tight feeling.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited April 2011

    lago - did they explain why your astigmatism disappeared?  I have it in one eye and wonder if mine will go away too?  That would be nice since I still have leg hair for some reason!  Doesn't seem fair!

    emily - nail issues and/or neuropathy can start anytime :(  I have one iffy nail - wedding ring finger.

    I am retaining fluid in my hands and lower legs but not too severly after 3 out of 6 tx - should that worry me?  #4 is in a week and a half.

  • TonLee
    TonLee Member Posts: 2,626
    edited April 2011


    SpecialK,

    I don't think you should worry about it.  As far as I can tell, besides limiting salt intake, there is nothing you can do about the swelling.  Let your onc know though because occasionally it can be a sign of something bigger.

    I didn't start swelling really until after 4....and it wasn't bad...I'm 3 weeks out now from #6 and my thighs just look bloated, and when I cross my legs (like for yoga) they scream.  I stretch everyday, and still workout, I would just like them to get back to themselves.

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited April 2011
    SpecialK - I had swelling of the feet and legs too. Seems like it's very common. It all went away after the last TCH.
  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited April 2011

    SpecialK I was told that your lenses can change with age. In m case it flattened out. It could be age but I really think it was the chemo. I was told it could change back. Yes I did see an opthamologist.

    I still have some fluid retention issue but the small dose 1/2 fluid pill has kept it under control. I take my last half tomorrow. My NP feels I will probably have to stay on it a little while longer but we're giving it till Monday to see (5 days off).

    Granted if my feet blow up to the point where my shoes don't fit I'm calling before the weekend. Tongue out I do feel my legs still look a little stumpy though.

  • Trisha-Anne
    Trisha-Anne Member Posts: 2,112
    edited April 2011

    I'm just checking in too.

    I'm 8 weeks out from last chemo.  I bounced back pretty quickly - lucky for me, but I didn't have to have rads, so that probably helped.  In the last 3 weeks or so I've noticed that my brain is performing a lot better, I worked all the way through chemo, not full time and certainly not the week of treatment on Taxotere.  I had a severe reaction to Taxotere so I'm really surprised that I've come back so well.  My haemoglobin count is still quite low, and I've been told if it drops more at the next blood test I may need a transfusion, but I'm hoping that it will now start to pick up.

    I'm no-where near as tired as I was, again not having rads has helped.  Still a bit weary, but not the bone numbing tiredness that Taxotere provides :-)

    I'm still on Herceptin and have started Arimidex so I'm having some minor se's from those, but nothing too bad.

    Hair is growing back - it's thickening up on the sides but still pretty thin on top, although the hair is probably almost 1/2 inch long now.  There's a lot more grey than there used to be.  My eyebrows are starting to grow, but my eyelashes don't seem to be doing much yet.  Hair is growing everywhere else too :-)

    My biggest problem is that I don't seem to have gotten my "toughness" back yet.  I'm still feeling a bit vulnerable - I'm talking mainly about work.  Everyone at work has been very supportive, but there is one person who's being an absolute b**ch and I'm finding it difficult to deal with her.  12 months ago she would have been a minor glitch on my horizon, but at the moment she's draining me.  

    So on the whole - health wise things are improving a lot, and I'm looking forward to returning to normal in the next few months.

    Hang in there girls - it will get better xoxo

    Trish

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited April 2011

    Trish - don't you hate it when there is a b**ch at work?  Strangely, the one where I work had an abrupt attitude change when I was diagnosed and has been very supportive and concerned about me.  My co-workers collected money and purchased a gift certificate to a really nice spa for me and one of the organizers told me that this person was the biggest contributor!  I was shocked, but this person has a sister that was just diagnosed with late stage lung cancer so maybe it made her take a step back.

    The funny thing is that the spa is refusing to book me for any kind of appointments because they consider someone being treated for cancer to be a liability risk!  Now I am stuck with the dang gift certificate!

    lago - I have a few years on you so if it was age maybe it would have happened by now?  I can only hope it will go away because it has been a problem for contact lenses.  I currently can't wear them (also because of dry eyes) and it would be much easier at work to wear contacts instead of reading glasses on, reading glasses off, on, off, on...

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited April 2011

    Has anyone had any experience with the Livestrong program of cancer survivor exercise at the YMCA?

  • tracie23
    tracie23 Member Posts: 598
    edited April 2011
    Hi I am checking in ..... Feeling pretty good , My brain is still having a lot of issues I am very unorganized and cannot multi task any longer....  and I still have the muscle soreness I feel very old but I am still going to curves everyday and I have lost 13 lbs since the beginning of March. My nails look like scaly fish and grow like crazy... Oh this is the best (not) I am growing some hair down there but not in the right area ..... I am getting my bikini line first how weird is that Foot in mouth the hair on my head is growing but it is very gray and sticks straight up in the air. I will be going in June for the oopherectomey gee I can't wait...I am glad we are all doing ok.

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