Taxotere is a nightmare

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  • christine47
    christine47 Member Posts: 1,454
    edited April 2011

    I have numbness in both of my heels, I assume neuropathy from the taxotere.  I have 2 more rounds to go (4 done), I will mention to my onc this week.  Do most people have eventual improvement.  I can stand the discomfort, feels like blistered heels in bed and with closed shoes, but I don't want to be this way for ever.  Any thoughts??

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited April 2011
    christine you must report all symptoms to your onc. If you onc feels your neuropathy is to bad s/he will reduce your amount. I did get some neuropathy (numb left heel) with my 2nd chemo. It would get better then start up again. By tx 5 it didn't go away. I'm now 11 weeks from last chemo and it seems to be a bit better. Some people don't get rid of it others it can take 1-2 years to go away. I'm guessing my will be gone in less than a year.
  • SAMayoFL
    SAMayoFL Member Posts: 958
    edited April 2011

    I am crying lots and lots of Taxotears today.  I am 11 days post chemo and my hair is falling out - AGAIN!!!!!!  It finally got to be about 1/2 inch and it is falling out in big clumps today.  I stopped by the onc. at lunch and they said it happens.  Taxotere sucks!

    Susan

  • tracie23
    tracie23 Member Posts: 598
    edited April 2011

    SamayoFL, I am so sorry your hair is falling out again. How many tax treatments do you have left?

  • SAMayoFL
    SAMayoFL Member Posts: 958
    edited April 2011

    Hey Tracie, my last Taxotere was 11 days ago.  After the final treatment I hit rock bottom.  I was sick for 10 days and finally feel better today.  This morning, however, I realize that my hair is falling out AGAIN.  All of my hair.  The very few eyelashes and eyebrows that were growing, the hair down there and, of course, the hair on my head.  I am totally bummed out.  The hair on my head was 1/2 inch if not a little bit more.  Remember when your hair fell out in big chunks?  That's exactly what mine is doing for the second time. It looks like I will eventually lose two fingernails too.  I keep telling myself to keep my chin up, this is only temporary and it could get a lot worse but I am really upset about losing my hair again.

    How did your insurance problem go?  Have you been able to resolve it yet?  How are you feeling?  Are you starting to feel normal again?  How is Curves going?

    Susan

  • christine47
    christine47 Member Posts: 1,454
    edited April 2011

    Lago, thanks for your imput, I go to my onc tomorrow, in preparation for friday chemo (TAC #5), I plan to make him aware.  It is both of my heels, back of heels, burns when I touch the bed or wear my running shoes, feels like they will blister.  Fortunately the skin looks just fine. 

    Susan,  sorry to hear about the hair, how depressing to lose hair a second time.  I am on TAC, so no change of growing hair until I am done with treatment.  Still have not lost eyebrows, but not done with treatment yet.

  • MistyinPR
    MistyinPR Member Posts: 16
    edited April 2011

     SAMayoFL: Hello,  I have been reading and getting help from this forum since my diagnosis in September 2010, but I just registered after reading your post. I am currently finishing neo-adjuvant chemo. Tomorrow is my last treatment. As of tomorrow, I will have had 4 cycles of AC followed by 4 cycles of taxotere each 3 weeks apart. My hair fell out after the first AC and just like you it was growing back during the first two taxotere treatments. It was about one inch long and I was thrilled. Two weeks after the third taxotere treatment (one week ago), my hair started falling out in clumps again and my all of my fingernails began detaching from the skin underneath. I think I will be bald and without fingernails before the end of the last treatment, but I hope everything will grow back again. I am sorry this is happening to you, but I feel comforted knowing that it is not uncommon.

  • AliQ
    AliQ Member Posts: 3
    edited April 2011

    Dear MiriamCecelia,

    You had so many things done to you in short succession.  I surely hope you are feeling a bit better now.  I send you great sympathy and healing thoughts.

     

  • tracie23
    tracie23 Member Posts: 598
    edited April 2011
    samayofl, I am actually doing really good... the insurance thing is still happening but I have a lawyer who sent in an appeal so I am waiting , I am not allowed to contact the insurance company. He told me to just sit tight so I am Laughing you can't get blood from a turnip LOL , My hair is growing in but I still look like an old man with a receding hair line... the top sticks straight up in the air and it is soooooo gray. My nails look very ugly but non of them lifted ... I think my big toe may go soon. I am still having nurapathy in my finger tips and the tips of my toes my feet are peeling ( can we get anymore disgusting) so that is really weird it's like I don't have  blood flow to the toes. I still have very sore muscles in my legs but I am working out 5 days a week and I have lost 10lbs so that part is great. My face was really swollen near the end of chemo and now it is getting back to normal. I was going through some notes from a meeting I had in March a few weeks after chemo and I don't even remember writing any of it... My brain is very messed up Sealed. I really am so sorry about your hair it must be devastating. Remember you are done with the tax and that is so great just stay really positive it is really the only way to get through it. I still have bad days where i want to jump out of my own skin but I try to stay busy . I have days were the only thing I can do is sleep. We are all going to get to end of this terrible journey it just takes A LOT OF TIME !!!!!! I am sending tons of hugs your way !!!
  • Linda-n3
    Linda-n3 Member Posts: 2,439
    edited April 2011

    Just touching base and sending hugs to all of you tonight.  I have had a few good days, but overdid, got overly tired, and now paying the price of everything flaring up again.  But at least now I am much more hopeful that, just like the hair loss, the neuropathy and pain are temporary and WILL get better.  My fingernails no longer feel like a hammer hit them, but they still feel like I could easily pull a nail up if I'm not careful, and they are growing out much less ugly than they were! One day - 24 hours at a time....  Hang in there tracie, christine, lago, susan, misty, alison, and everyone else! We can do it!

  • bdavis
    bdavis Member Posts: 6,201
    edited April 2011

    Oh boy.. the hair is such a problem... it just stares back at us everyday in the mirror and isn't a quick fix.  My hair has grown some since I shaved it back at tx #1, and will be very upset if it starts to fall out again... I am 4 tx down and 2 to go...my thoughts are with you

  • SAMayoFL
    SAMayoFL Member Posts: 958
    edited April 2011

    Misty, I had 4 A/C every other week followed by 12 weeks of Taxotere.  I felt remarkabley well for the first 6 or 7 treatments but after that it was downhill all the way.  The days after my last treatment were rough and I really wasn't expecting that.  I guess I was expecting to finish chemo and wake up the next morning back to my usual self.  I hope that your Taxotere treatments don't get progressively worse.  It sounds like your last one is about 2 weeks away.  Plan to take good care of yourself after that last treatment.  I have averaged probably 12 - 14 hours of sleep every day since chemo ended.  I am totally wiped out.

    Tracie, WOOHOO on losing 10 pounds.  I can't wait to be well enough to get back to being active.  Right now walking to my car is exhausting.  It's going to take me forever to regain stamina.

    Bdavis, hooray!!  You are more than half way there.  

    I am trying really hard not to be a big baby.  I really do know there are worse things that could happen than your hair falling out the second time.  I wasn't prepared for this at all though and I am totally bummed out tonight.

    Susan

  • bdavis
    bdavis Member Posts: 6,201
    edited April 2011

    well at least we are headed to warm weather and we can all go commando!!!!!

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited April 2011

    I got my exchange date: May 27th. I go for my last expansion tomorrow. The TEs didn't bother me till the last few expansions. I can't wait to get rid of these things. They are too big and weird now.

    Another thing about hair. Mine came in with more gray… no surprise there but the brown part is actually almost black now. Even my eyebrows have grown in black. Talk about looking in the mirror and seeing a stranger.Tongue out Granted I'm not complaining. Just can't wait till it's long enough/filled in enough to color.

    My fingernail beds are still a bit sore. I see the NP next week. Hopefully she can give me an idea of when this will stop. I really hope they don't lift again.

    Hang in there everyone it does get better but it's a gradual process.

  • tracie23
    tracie23 Member Posts: 598
    edited April 2011

    Lago, My Aunt just had a double Mastectomey with TE she is in so much pain right know... how did you feel from the begining did you have a lot of pain? how lond did you have your drains in? When did you start getting fills? And when did you start feeling better. Thanks

  • Omaz
    Omaz Member Posts: 5,497
    edited April 2011
    Lago - Hurray for a date!!  Bet you can't wait.
  • TonLee
    TonLee Member Posts: 2,626
    edited April 2011

    Lago,

    Why so long between exchange and last fill?

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited April 2011

    That's not long. My PS wants to wait 6 weeks. I can't do it on May 13th because I have a wedding on the 15th (and who wants to do surgery on Friday the 13th anyway… not that is would have stopped me).

    The next opening was the 27th. He only does this surgery on Fridays. I think the more invasive surgeries are earlier in the week. These doctors have certain surgery days at the hospitals. That's why they all have "people" that are in charge of scheduling.

    BTW my last expansion is tomorrow. That will be 10 total!

  • TonLee
    TonLee Member Posts: 2,626
    edited April 2011

    Ok...thanks for the info.  I only asked because I had revision surgery Friday, and once I heal I get complete fills before rads...(and it's looking like I probably will lose my boob during rads...it's very aggressive).

    Anyway, I was wondering if there was a medical reason.

    I think I need 300 (ccs?) or whatever....he fills every other week and I hope we can get in 300 in 4 fills.....

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited April 2011

    TonLee My PS fills very slowly. I had 3 before chemo and tomorrow will make #10. I know the woman in my building that was diagnosed right after me (and has the same team) only had 3 expansions before chemo as well. She is doing rads now. She will be getting the lat flap thing because of rads. As you know I didn't do rads.

    Yes I did read about the aggressive procedure on the other thread.

  • marjie
    marjie Member Posts: 1,134
    edited April 2011
    Lago - Thank you!!  Good to know I'm not losing my mind.  I know it seems like a small issue in the whole scheme of things, but as my eyebrows make their reappearance, I notice that they are very dark, almost black.  I was telling myself that it had been so long I had forgotten my hair colour....whatever, lolUndecided
  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited April 2011

    Marjie I had purchased make up to fill in my eyebrows before surgery! Yes this was my biggest fear… losing the eyebrows not the hair on my head. It was the exact same hue, value and intensity as my eyebrow color. Now it's lighter and redder then this black stuff that grew in. That's how I knew I wasn't crazy.

    I purchased this in the Ebony. (granted who knows what color it's showing up on the screen). The dark side used to match now too light!

    Product: http://www.anastasia.net/images/P/Brow%20Powder%20Medium%20Ash%20PDI%20-%20Golden%20Ratio%20copy.jpg       Color:http://www.eskinstore.com/ProductCart/pc/catalog/Brow_Duo_Ebony_AFS.JPG

    Yes my eyebrows are black compared to that image

  • marjie
    marjie Member Posts: 1,134
    edited April 2011

    Lago - I am thinking my hair is a lot darker too but it's hard to tell because it's still so fine and there's a lot of gray.  Like you, losing the brows and lashes for me was the worst part so I'm just happy to see them coming back at this point.  They also look like they will be rather thick - just call me Groucho?

  • nurseronda10
    nurseronda10 Member Posts: 209
    edited April 2011

    Can't believe I didn't lose my eyelashes or eyebrows.  Feel so blessed to still have them as I was worried more about losing eyebrows than hair on my head probably because I have dark thick brows and feel they would be very noticeable gone.   I am 6 weeks post chemo and hair has only grown about 1/8 of an inch and color coming back is "reverse skunk" as my 15 year old daughter put it.  

    Still having a lot of soreness on bottom of both feet which onc says is from the Taxotere.  Forgot to ask her if this will ever go away.  At least the more I walk, the less sore they are.  Worst part is when I first get up in the mornings.  Reminds me of when I had a heel spur. 

    Hugs to everyone on this nightmare of a journey. 

  • SAMayoFL
    SAMayoFL Member Posts: 958
    edited April 2011

    When my eyelashes came back in they were the same texture, I am not sure that's the right word, as the hair on my head.  They are fine and curly.  Now they are falling out again.  UGH!!! 

    Susan

  • shooshoo23
    shooshoo23 Member Posts: 96
    edited April 2011

    Well, I'm 8 weeks past chemo and I had a lovely case of taxotears this morning at the store! The lady at checkout was so worried about me. She thought I was crying! HA!

  • Omaz
    Omaz Member Posts: 5,497
    edited April 2011

    I am about 4 months out and got something in my eye last night from the wind, dang if I could find any eyelashes to grab and pull my upper lid out over my lower one to get the debris out.  I think there are some there but they are too short to get a hold of.  Plus I have some numbness in my fingertips so that made it a double challenge!

  • Slainte
    Slainte Member Posts: 152
    edited April 2011

    Hair growth and eyebrows and eyelashes are coming along, but I am still sooooo exhausted from the chemo. My last taxotere was 10 weeks ago. I am still on herceptin and no rads for me. I know I am doing a lot more than I was when I was on chemo, but I am frustrated with my lack of energy. I am working two days a week ( I'm a veterinarian, btw Marjie nice cats :).). Very frustrated! Anyone else feeling this way?



    Christine

  • Omaz
    Omaz Member Posts: 5,497
    edited April 2011
    Slainte - 10 weeks is not far out.  It takes a darn long while I think.
  • Linda-n3
    Linda-n3 Member Posts: 2,439
    edited April 2011

    Slainte, Omaz is right!  I finished in December and just this past week felt like I had some true energy return!  My onc says 6-12 months to feel back to "normal" - of course, she didn't tell me this at the beginning, so I have been very hard on myself thinking I should be doing better.  I am trying to learn the lesson "be kind to yourself" but have to remind myself about that daily.  And yes, the frustrations are there, especially when many of us continue to try to maintain our professional commitments. I finally filed FMLA papers and got a slightly reduced workload in February as I was trying to do my usual work but wasn't doing anything very well. Hang in there! Be kind to yourself.

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