February 2011 chemo pals
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Hey Laura,
Hope you feel better- I broke out the breakthrough meds for #3EC and they helped a lot. I have compazine. I also found getting some easily digestible protein in me every few hours helped as well and slept a lot. Hope you feel better.
My sister was excited since I slept through taxol #1 today she was able to grade 46 of her 50 essays with no interruptions. It is good to have company (even sleeping
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Going to check that conference link. Was at Phelps yesterday to meets Rad ONC.
Jean -
Hi Ladies,
Had TCH#3 this afternoon. The weather here is Florida was problematic today as some of you probably know. Where I live and receive tx is right near the tornado activity. About 2/3 of the way through my tx the center lost power. Fortunately the pumps had all been plugged in so had enough battery to get through the infusions. They turned away all afternoon appointments though. Going to the ladies room was interesting as it is interior with a heavy door. The nurse had to follow me and my IV pole with a flashlight. They were unable to make my Neulasta appointment so they said just come in sometime in the morning! After my appt with the onc PA prior to tx she decided to add Ativan in the drip since I had some problems last tx. WOW! I came home, had some soup/sandwich and crashed out for a couple of hours. I have not done that previously. All evening my eyebrows have felt too close to my eyes!!! I am just now feeling normal so thought I would jump on here between the lightning and thunder!
fuzzy - good luck tomorrow! You can do it!
Everybody who went this week - I wish you all mild SE's. Everybody next week - good luck, take it one day at a time.
Kathie
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You ladies that work while on this wild rollercoaster ride are AMAZING.
Is anyone having vision problems on TCH? Actually, I'm not sure it's the chemo at all.
I saw my PCP on Jan. 3 - 2 days before my abnormal mammo. - for some vision issues. I'm thinking it could be blood pressure related. My blood pressure went up during my last infusion. The chemo nurse siad it was probably because I drank a TON (too embarrassed to even admit the actual amount but it was a LOT) of water during infusion.
But my blood pressure has been consistently running about 130/90. Not *terrible*, but not great. I'm praying that this vision issue is blood pressure related and not anything scary. My mind has really been going some dark places.

It's like my glasses don't work as well most of the time and other times it'd like I've been poked in the eye - those weird dots zoom in out of no where. No headaches, dizziness, etc.
I keep remembering that I had a small mass and only a tiny 3.0mm calcification in one node. My chest Xray was normal, no symptoms of mets anywhere else. (Just talking myself off the ledge here....)
On that topic, does anyone's onc do scans or other testing? I'm fairly certain that mine typically does not.
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pejkug - I had a baseline PET scan before I started TCH as well as a baseline heart echo. Those were considered routine as there was no specific reason that they were ordered other than a baseline to compare future scans to. I do have another echo ordered for between tx#3 and#4 to check the EF to see if the Herceptin is damaging my heart at all. Some onc's only order if you have symptoms and anything tiny won't be picked up on those scans anyway.
On the vision thing - I think chemo can affect it, expecially the tear ducts. I haven't noticed any real changes yet. Talk to lago - she just had her eyes checked and her vision had improved and she finished TCH just recently.
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pejkeg...definitely get your eyes checked if you are having "floaters" or spots/dots in your eye or any light flashes.I had peripheral lights flashing in my eye last year..not chemo related. Turns out it was posterior vitreous detachment.I have to watch for a veil coming down over that eye which means retinal detachment and get to medical help if that happens. These things are all treatable so get the eyes checked..may not be chemo related at all. Untreated diabetes can also cause spots in your vision and many other things.
SpecialK...can't imagine having chemo during a power failure..AND a bad storm/tornado warning..yikes...
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Wow being out of commission for the day gave me a lot of reading to catch up on! Last AC (#4) DONE! This was hit me a little harder than the others...It was my son's b-day and we went out to dinner. I got a grilled chicken breast, but headed out to car before everyone else was done, came to closest to losing the contents of my insides yet. I had to take all my meds! Had DH take me home while they went to his parents for cake. STayed in bed until now and of course no sleep for me, but now that my face is no longer green I can check out my dear friends here and watch a little tv I guess. The cumulative stuff seems a little worse today. I am very dry, slathering on the lotion and drinking as much as I can and my nose not only will not stop running but is so sore inside its hard to wipe. My taste buds seemed to go down the toilet one of the umpteenth times I've been in there and my memory is shot. Someone came to hug me at dinner from another table...I know I know here but can't figure out for the life of me how and I"M BALD!!! OK, enough complaining and on to Taxol!! I'm ready, let's get her done!
Thanks for all the well wishes for today and I hope everyone else on the chair had a good day and good luck to evryone tomorrow (or later today I guess!) Love and hugs to you all and thanks for just being here! jenn
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jenn - have you tried putting some Aquaphor or Vaseline in your nostrils and mushing it around. It helps with the soreness. I have started putting cocoa butter on my hand and feet because they are getting dry too, but the rest of my skin seems pretty normal.
I am sorry about your tummy. We have gone out only a few times and I am always nervous about eating publicly. There is always that thing about paying restaurant prices for food you can't taste either, but this was a special occasion. Today at tx was the first CBC that produced a low WBC so I will be staying close to home until the next CBC. I would be anyway just coming off the tx today, but my WBC had been so good until now. Everything else held steady but low. The lady next to me was turned down for tx and had to go have a platelet transfusion, yikes! Can't imagine psyching up for tx and then being turned down or delayed - what a pain. Fortunately a platelet transfusion is really fast (only about 20 minutes) and doesn't contain red cells so there is less of a likelihood of a reaction.
emily - yeah, today was exciting! I woke up at 4:30 with the weather, it was hailing on the master bedroom windows. My DH and dog and I all huddled together in the bed for a while. My DD is in Virginia for spring break and she called at 6:00 wanting to know if we were having a tornado - like I would casually be chatting with her if we were! I think they pushed the meds at the center because we were out in record time-5 1/2 hours - the fastest yet!
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So apparently one of my ovaries didn't get the memo about chemo and I started my period today! That was the one SE I was going to be happy about.
Kathie what an adventure. Glad you were able to finish your treatment in the middle of all that horrible weather.
Fuzzy...Is it Friday yet? Good Luck
Emily. Thanks for the heads up about the eye blotting. I don't know if it's true either but I'll do it anyway just in case. Take care today.
Laura, Jen and the rest of this weeks gals Hang in there.
Cindy and Jean, I really appreciate your updates. If I can actually remember them when my time comes it will be a big help.
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JeanH-- thanks for the advice. So funny that we were both at Phelps yesterday. If you're ever back on a Thursday, would be nice to meet you. I'm there every other week. I took a Zofran and then just didn't move all night, went to bed early. I don't know why, but I'm afraid to take the breakthrough meds, compazine and ativan. I'm fearful of more side effects. It's a shame to have a full bottle of meds that I'm sure someone else without insurance can use.
SpecialK- Oh my goodness, I thought Florida weather was predictable! So you're dealing tornado activity, lightning, hail along with chemotherapy. Sheesh. My mother lives in South Tampa, I'll have to call and check in on her.
Pejkug3- have you talked to your onc about the vision issues? If it only lasts around the time of infusion, then it sounds like it would be related to the chemo. Maybe you can search online (though that's sometimes dangerous!) and see if vision problems is a common short term side effect of TCH. Or your oncologist could advise you. As for scans, I don't know what the normal protocol is during treatment, PET and other scans for me were pre-chemo but I'm sure it's different for those who have neo-adjuvant (presurgery) treatment to shrink a tumor.
Have a great day everyone.
Laura
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marie, it was my 3rd treatment yesterday; thank you so much for keeping me in your prayers. As for it being the 3rd one, I am finding it the most doable one so far. I think I'm learning to pace myself. I take off 5 days work plus the weekend and I do not push myself to make everything perfect for everyone else.
Thundershowers, those pessimistic nurses tick me off! I hate it when someone makes a comment like that out of the blue that you aren't expecting.(I've had a few over the past couple months from medical personnel). Some encouragement from her would have been nice. Has she had your experience? How can she say how your treatments will go? It's a good idea to mention her comment to your onco. No one likes a sour nurse.
I always wish I could come up with a nasty little reply back when someone is discouraging like that. Usually I think of something too late. But don't people in the medical field realize what kind of impact their statements can have on us?
It's been my experience so far that I learn with each treatment what to expect, it's more of a routine, and I am better prepared for it.
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Good morning gals! Off to see my BS shortly. I haven't seen her since pre-chemo. I have 2 pages of questions for her. I hope she has the time. My surgery is scheduled for May 3.
It's so good to read that everyone is nearing the end of this crap. It will all be over soon. I for one am amazed at how quickly it flew by.
Gotta run. I'll check in later, taters.
M
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hi -- I'm a very infrequent poster, but I noticed, DivineMrsM, that you drove an hour for the neulasta shot. I apologize if someone's already mentioned this, but do you know that you can do it yourself at home? I just take it out of the fridge 30 minutes ahead (to come to room temp) and do the injection in my belly, no sweat. (and no driving!
I also take claritin the day before it through about 4 days after to minimize the bone pain. Also quite helpful.I just finished my 4x of AC and start 4x Taxol on Monday. A friend is coming from NY, so I'm bummed to learn I may sleep through the whole thing! and really really bummed that I'm about to lose my lashes and brows. the hair was one thing, but this, oof...
GL to all on upcoming infusions!
Emily
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Emily, are your eyelashes and eyebrows falling out now? I have lost a cpl hairs here and there in my eyebrows but they are holding out pretty well, I was really hoping they would make it...anyone else know about this?
Pejkug, I am ACx4 Taxol4, I have had some little vision issues, nothing to write home about or anything that really worried about, but sometimes I get some blurred vision and sometimes see some stars, I get a little dizziness now and then and I just threw that all together as another symptom...
Special K, yes, started trying some vaseline last night, we shall see!
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emily, thanks for your post, but it is an insurance thing, unfortunately, my insurance would not approve for me to have the shot sent to my home.
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Good morning all. I started my first Taxol and I'm do good. I really got myself worked up before the treatmeant so I had naesea all day. I slept like a baby thru almost all of the 4 hours I was there. Next time it wont take as long since I did good with the taxol.
Now me and my sissy have hade both our boobs removed. She had cancer in to seprate times in her 30s. I had mine 2 seperate times in my 40s. We both did the red devil and taxol. She did hers had 3 weeks time period Im lucky I can do then every other week. She also had to bulk up on steriods before treatment and during. Im lucky I just get them in my drip. Times have changed in the last ten years. She also didnt have all this antinauesa meds like we do now. It was a bad few days for her I remember.
Have any of you do BRCA testing. I did and I am greatful for knowledge I had in how to treat my cancer. I did test positive and I am so worried about my kids. I just hope they have the smarts to get the testing done when they get older. Trust me I dont let them forget about being tested.
Well if I wanna go shopping I have to do some cleaning so it looks like Im not sick. Cause hubbs already read me a riot act about running around after chemo and then getting sick. So keep the fingers crossed he will see it different
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Hey ladies. I woke up this morning with my fingers and toes burning like crazy. I had worn new boots yesterday so figured that was why my toes hurt, butI I hadn't done an unusual amount of walking. So what about the fingers? It's really weird since my last AC was 3/24 and have never felt this before. I do feel the mild lower bcak ache I get from the Neulasta, so I know that's working. Such a mystery. Any ideas?
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Possibly delayed neuropathy? Does it burn or are you having pins and needles feeling, or pain?
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Taxotere Day 3, Cycle 1/3 ( FEC 3 rounds done)
Just wondering when I would see any nail issues beginning with the taxotere? Or neuropathy?
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EmilyinOntario Lets hope you don't have any nail issues with Taxotere...I'm on day 6 of cycle 3 and I'm just beginning to feel a slight soreness in my nails but no neuropathy. I'm having a total of 6 cycles. If you are having 3 you might get away with minimal or no issues. I am keeping my nails cut as short as possible because it seems to help i.e. hurts less if I can't hit the nails on things. For example, I started to notice the soreness while typing but after cutting them even shorter it's not bothering me now. Wishing you the best!
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Thanks dragonfly! Did you have another chemo before Taxotere or are you just doing taxotere?
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EmilyinOntario I'm doing TCH x 6 so I'm doing taxotere, Carboplatin and Herceptin x 6 and then Herceptin for a year (no other chemo combo prior)
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EmilyinOntario Do you already know about the recommendation to use ice on your nails during the taxotere infusions? It's discussed a lot on our TCH forum because there are some people who have had severe nail problems. Lago is the member who has posted pictures of her nails and had a particularly bad time (black nails and actually lost some nails). It makes me wonder if it's a lot worse when you get a longer course of taxotere...hope you won't have a problem.
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Hi gals! I hope all is well. I had my Taxol Friday and am doing pretty good. Its is so much better then the A/C. I had a wee bit of nausea Friday, but am soing great now. The only problem I have is the severe joint pain. Omg no matter what I do it hurts. I can deal good with pain, but this time its a no go. I finally broke down and called the telenurse and got something that I hope will help. Funny thing is I never did take the claritin with the shot and had very little pain. This Taxol is really making up for it. Trust me though I would rather have this severe joint pain then the other junk that comes with the A/C. I hope all gets better for everyone soon.
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Dragonfly..I did ice my nails during taxotere, although the nurses said they don't usually do that which surprised me since I have read so much about that here. I haven't seen Lagos pics..where are they? I have some nail hardener polish here too but haven't put it on yet... maybe I was supposed to do that before? Ha..chemo brain here so can hardly think straight...
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EmilyinOntario I asked Lago to send you a private message with the pics because they are way back on the older posts...If you are icing you should be fine...I'm already on Taxotere #3 and I only have slight soreness-hopefully you'll be the same and only have a mild issue if any
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I like others took the advice to ice. After 3 tx- I keep nails very short. My hands and toes are ok. I I have some numbness- but no pain or trouble. Hope it stays this way for 3 more!
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Emily - I had read to paint the hardener on (they gave it to me in a little kit at my center) every day for seven days, then remove it with non-acetone remover, and start over. I also paint my nails dark on the day of infusion. I had read that interaction with light also causes problems. I have no ridges, or lines or pain, and my nails look normal with the exception of my left ring-finger which is lifted about half-way up from the tip. I removed my acrylic nails prior to chemo and damaged that one so I think it was compromised, but it doesn't hurt and doesn't look like Lago's pix. I keep them very short and find that they do grow as fast as they ever did.
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Hey gals! You'll get a laugh from this combo of wishful thinking and chemo brain: I was just examining my mostly bald head and noticed some fresh new hairs! And they were dark, not grey! And straight! Yippee!!!! Oh wait. I just trimmed my daughter's bangs.She has straight, dark brown Chinese hair. Doh.
Did I tell y'all about my "phantom hair" experience? You know how people who have lost a limb sometimes still feel it's there, even to the point of experiencing pain? I woke up one morning with an achey scalp as though my hair was being pulled and felt that I still had my long hair!
BTW, I took some motrin for the burning toes/fingers yesterday and it went away. Just a little of the sensation today. Very weird. The best way I can describe the feeling is as if I had walked barefoot on gravel for a few hours the day before. I'll have to mention it to my Onc. when I see her this week.
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PS. For more laffs, have any of you been following the escaped Bronx Zoo cobra on twitter? It's hysterical!
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EmilyInOntario - I had 2 TC treatments before my onc took me off Taxotere. Taxotere gave me nueropathy in my toes and when he saw them the outer layers of skin were dead. This didn't happen until the 2nd treatment. The 1st treatment was a piece of cake. Good Luck!
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