February 2011 chemo pals
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Sara...congrats on finishing AC, hope you are feeling better emotionally too..I know what you mean, I am the least stressed/depressed person I know and have started to slide that way a couple times and it is so weird for me! My last AC is on Thur. then on to Taxol.
massteach...I work, I am a special ed. teacher. I get my AC treatments every other Thur and take off that day and then Fri. On treatment number three I was very tired Mon and needed to take that day off as well, but I attributed the extra tiredness to a weekend visit from my mother. (I don't know). I felt a little dizzy off and on, but nothing very noteworthy and it went away quickly each time.
Special K, how many Taxotere treatments are you on. I will be starting Taxol on April 14 and my onc said that I shouldn't have to worry about nails as I will only have 4 treatments of it...
I got my prescription for all the decadron to take before Taxol (5 at 9pm and 5 at 3 am) and forgot about how hyper that stuff makes me when I only take 2! Ahhh...I will be bouncing off the walls from April 14- end of May when I finish up!
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I am fortunate to have sick time and compassionate bosses, but as a teacher I need a sub every day I'm out and there are no sub in my subject. I was on TC 4x, but the 2nd time had SE bad enough for my onc to take me off taxotere and put me on A with C. I started teaching new classes the day before my chemo (last Thurs) and haven't seen those kids since. Starting with new students is making me feel overwhelmed.
People I work with keep telling me how brave I am and I've been given too many gifts, but up until now I haven't felt that I needed bravery. Now I feel disgusted with SE's and I'm really whimpy.
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massteach I've been working full time as a social worker in the ER of a large hospital while receiving TCH. I had my TCH#3 today. It's definitely not easy all the time and there are days that I struggle but for me personally I need work as an outlet both physically and mentally to keep me going. The routine is good for me and helps to motivate me when I'm having days that I would rather pull the covers over my head. My sister-in-law went through chemo a year ago and was not able to work because she's a classroom teacher and felt that she would not have any "downtime" when she needed it because of the structure of her job. I think that makes a difference. I am able to spend time in my office at various times throughout the day writing notes, etc so that I can get away and take a break when I feel rough.
Please don't feel wimpy-these side effects are really tough. I'm having TCHx6 and I can't believe how awful it can be. I basically have 10 miserable days during each cycle and by the end of those 10 days I feel like I won't be able to take one more step or stand one more minute of it. It mentally and physically drains me and I just reach a breaking point. I always regroup after that but it's no small thing. I just had TCH#3 today so I know that I'm descending into that hell again right now. You have every right to feel disgusted-this really sucks!!! And you are not wimpy-you are a fighter! You'll get through this and everyone here will help. Thank goodness for the women here who can truly relate and can cheer us on when we're feeling down! Hang in there and vent when you need to

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Thanks for the support. I know I'll get through it. I just having a couple of bad days.
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Special K I am using L Glutamine and B6 to hopefully ward off the neuropathy. I had read about these two things helping with neuropathy so I asked my nurse and she said yes use them.
I am still feeling good today but feel a little more tired. Course my 2 gradchildren were here today and they can wear you out...... I think I will sleep good tonight but we will see. They say that day 3 which is tomorrow through day 5 you may feel like you have the flu. Feel achey. I will let you know if this happens to me.
Thinking of all that have treatments this week.
Cindy
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Hi all! I had a fiil today. My chest is achey! Just lefty though. Righty fills fine. I go for my final fill in 2 weeks. Im so glad Im not a busty gal, lol. Ill have a new do and knockers by christmas, yahoo!!!!!
Cindy its good to see you doing good. Im abit nervous but I always am the few days before treatment. Take care.
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Massteach, I work when I am feeling well and I don't push myself. I am super fortunate to have a compassionate and caring workplace. Had DD AC #3 last Friday and still in misery. I'm hoping tomorrow I start feeling better as I find it's about 5-6 days of recovery time. It's like night and day when the recovery comes. I go to bed feeling like crap and it's never going to end and then I wake up feeling pretty good. Hoping that good day is tomorrow.
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Massteach - working through chemo is possible, it seems to me, if you have a flexible workplace and can get a sub if needed. I've been working full-time as a government attorney, and take off every other Thursday when I go to treatment, and half a day Friday after the treatment. My job is mostly sedentary, and I am trying to postpone as many high stress events, like depositions and trials. For me, I need to work for the mental distraction and the social interaction.
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massteach - I work in the blood bank of the hospital where I had my BMX last Nov. I have been on a combo of FMLA with short term disab (benefit I elected and paid for) and that ran the whole course because I had 5 surgeries between Nov and mid Jan. When the FMLA and short term disab ended they switched me over to an American With Disabilities accommodation in the form of a leave of absence with long term disab (company benefit available to everyone). My onc indicated that I could not work until July 1st. My job is extremely demanding physically and attention to detail is paramount because I am dealing with patient safety (right unit of blood to right patient!) The accommodation has to be re-certified by my company every 60 days and it is based on whether or not my absence is costing them money in the form of overtime by other employees or hardship on my co-workers. I am very lucky that they have excess personnel right now who are waiting to go to our new lab at the VA hospital accross the street but the lab opening is delayed. Those folks are picking up my slack. All that being said - I don't think I could do my job effectively in the times between tx. I feel like poo for a week and a half following tx and then have a week and a half of feeling ok. I think I would be cumulatively more tired and run down if I was working those in-between times. I bow down to those who are working through chemo, I know how lucky I am not to have to.
jenn- I am TCHx6, with Herceptin continuing for the year after the 6 TC are done. You will find oncs and chemo nurses who discount the icing. Unless you are a gambler by nature I would do it anyway. The people who had lifting of nails (I have one lifting after 2 tx) had it happen prior to their 4th tx.
cindy - I hope your use of B6 and Glutamine works. I have not had any neuropathy so far (knock wood) so I am going to keep doing it. I sometimes have trouble with the Glutamine powder but I tried it in hot tea and that was better. I tried applesauce the first time and it was too weird. My onc described the feeling of days 3-5 as a "really bad hangover" and he was not kidding. I hope it doesn't roll over you, but rest assured that when you come out the other side you will feel ok.
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Stupid question but is Taxol and Taxotere the same drug?
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Both are derived from the Yew tree but Taxotere has a synthetic aspect that is supposed to cause less allergic reactions. I believe that Taxol was an American drug and Taxotere was European.
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So far so good today. Today is day 3 of my 1st treatment with Taxol. Slept good last night. Fingers felt a little tingly this morning so not sure if that is neuropathy or not. Did take b6 and L Glutamine which is suppose to help with that. Will see how the rest of the day goes.
Cindy
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Fuzzy, perhaps you could get unpaid leave for the part of the AC that keeps you down for ten days or whatever, and then try to go to work. Perhaps get a ride with a friend to work first day, and ask someone there to take you home, which might work into a regular way to not drive. And I suppose the good old doctor's note might keep your job despite unpaid leave...but cash flow, I sold some of my belongings on Ebay one time (Beatles memorabilia), kept us going another month. It was just in the attic, I kept the very best stuff.
Folks, I got all messed up with AC#3 two weeks ago, cried for a week, lost my mind big-time, so will not being doing AC#4 tomorrow. I actually told the doc I wanted to quit and go to surgery. He told me to take a week off and rest, and we'd talk again next week. Also said he'd give better pain control, which partly set off mental panic (I have panic disorder from wreck).
Question: I got IDC, Grade 3, inflammatory clinical presentation, a large growth (est. 5cm) and three smaller ones, enlarged breast lymphs. Total of five months before surgery, really IRKS me. Sooooo, doc says if I stop now, recurrence is almost certain and will agressively take over op site. Makes me wonder where I am on the percentile scale of survival. I read somewhere inflammatory is 15 percent, early stage IDC is 85 percent, that sort of thing. I'll ask him again (I asked him yesterday) where am I on the scale? I'd be an idiot to stop if, say, I'm at 15 percent and no treatment might surely kill me, but with treatment might give me 30 percent, or whatever, these are just semi-imaginary numbers.
Does anybody know, that also has like me, inflammatory breast cancer as a subset of their IDC, as to just how serious a situation I might be in? Anyway, I'm resting now, already asked doc the above question and he said nothing, proably for good reason, will be talking to social worker about my ramped-up screaming emotions and of course the question to pass onto doc again, WHERE AM I AT? Ha! Anybody seen me lately? I'm home, napping, hugging dogs, trying not to think f all this, but HAD to come on here and update. GG
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GG - I just want to give you a big hug and let you know that I am so concerned about you ... I hope that someone here with similar diagnosis can jump in!! I'm pretty clueless on my whole deal ... but I know I'm going to do this chemo thing because I know too many people who did and lived for 20 years ... I have been checking your thread and waiting for an update from ya ...
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Hugs dogeyed, I hope you get some rest and the answers you need. You're in my thoughts, sara
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I found a forum on this site where IBC and IDC people had some talk, learned a lot, chemo before surgery is a must, and my percentile may not be as gloomy as I feared, and anyway doing chemo, surgery, rads can improve it to around 60 percent, which just yesterday I told husband I'd take that. So, I believe I'll go ahead with WHATEVER next week after I talk to doc again. Sigh. He must be SO worn out with me! Thanks for your replies, you have no idea how soothing it is to hear my girlfriends voices saying it's a gonna be okay, Miss Gail, it's gonna be okay. GG
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I'm here for ya GG!! I never want to seem pushy but ... GIRL, WE GOTTA DO THIS!! One step at a time, one day at a time, one stinkin' minute at a time!! And we are walking this road together! I'm very proud of you right now!!
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Dogeyed like the sports company says JUST DO IT! AC #3 made me cry too but it must be endured.
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((((HUGS))))
Has anybody heard from CharlottesMama?? Where oh where are you my friend?
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Fuzzy try not to have too much fun tomorrow. All you gotta do is show up!!

Everyone else going in this week hope your doing okay.
GG enjoy your extra week and come back fighting! You are an individual, not a statistic. You can do this!
My chemo brain is so not working at anywhere near full capacity today, I spent 5 min. touching up my makeup in the mens washroom at Chapters this morning right after making the ladies recheck prices at Walmart twice because I was sure they were wrong and they weren't. I wish I had hair to dye blonde. Maybe a nap will help.
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I hear ya Sukie...I missed my Dr. appt mon. and had to go yesterday bc my chemo brain is stuck on going every wed (he was not going to be in Wed). My taste buds have finally gone on a vacation which makes cherry Timbits and fruit by the foot really disappointing and my nose hurts to touch due to the amount of wipes it gets a day with the constant running. Tomorrow is AC #4, then on to Taxol...I know I could look back but to make things easier, what was the icing recommendation...just for the first 15 mins? I'm a little worried about the fact that I have to take 10 dexamethadron (or whateverthat's called) the night before because I think I will literally be bouncing off the walls for the next three days, but getting hives that move to close up my throat is a much scarier notion...
The kids in my class have been horrible this week (they are usually horrible, but this week they were extra), is it sad that I look forward to chemo for the couple days off?
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GG...I have IDC too bilaterally and it was questionable whether it was inflammatory on one side, but I think they have decided finally against that...sometimes it seems like they all look and nobody is really sure, I have it in my lymph nodes too and also will have to wait until after the chemo for surgery which is a total of 5 months for me as well. Surgery should be occuring in late June. I felt like...just take 'em off too, but i think the chemo is pretty important to get rid of everything they can and even possibly take it out of places they might not know its in...It's a big hurdle to get through, but we need to do it!! It really doesn't matter what the numbers say b/c someone has to be on the winning side even if it's 1%...That's gonna be us!!!!
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Oh no...is it Thursday already!! I thought it was Wednesday ... I better start nesting! Thank you for the head's up Sukie!
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jenn - start icing 15 minutes before your Tax (probably start during your pre-med), stay iced through the infusion, and 15 minutes after if you can. This is your first - so they may go slow to monitor you. We are talking icing for at least an hour - so be prepared. I just bring my four bags of peas in a little cooler thing. Also - try to keep ice in your mouth. Some people do popsicles or a frozen drink. I just bring crushed ice from home in a big thermal cup. You are trying to prevent mouth sores. I got them the first time even though I iced my mouth too.
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fuzzy - do you go tomorrow too? I thought you would get a kick out of the fact that an old high-school friend of my husbands sent the asparagus email to us.
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Howdy Special K - So, I just found out that today is Wednesday. I go in on Friday. I'm really hoping they don't sedate me again!! I'm feeling a little stronger about it this week!
That is FUNNY!! There are so many things that make me giggle these days - all from that thread!!
Clucking and Passing!
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fuzzy - I will be thinking of you on Friday then! His friend is a complete lunatic who is very well-meaning. He told my DH that he cried when he found out about my BC, I thought that was sweet. They got together over the holidays with their other two BFF's and had a lunch. He brought Suzanne Somers book about these guys curing cancer with coffee enemas and other bullcrap and gave it to my DH. Well-meaning, but nuts! He bought a farm where he grows produce up in buckets suspended from PVC pipe as a hobby. He has fish on the farm that produce fish poo that he puts on the plants. You would never stop laughing if you spent time with him. As a matter of fact I think that is why my DH was friends with him - entertainment value!
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OMG! That guy would be a hoot!! Does he live in New Mexico?? hee hee
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Ha! No he lives in Pompano Beach, FL and married an underwear model.
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Omg Fuzzy I was so proud of myself for remembering your chemo day and I got that wrong too. LOL. I really have to stop trying to remember things, its not working for me at all this week!!
I just woke up from a 4 hour nap and I'm headed to work. Lets hope there is nobody on the roads and nothing hard to do when I get there. Look out here I go.
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