Reading about TN online makes me feel hopeless, is this the end?
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I'm out 7.5 yrs after high-grade TN. My oncologist told me that most likely "you can consider this cancer behind you, eileen".
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I don't post often but I read these boards EVERY night! I had my 1 year cancerversary last month and was feeling fabulous but tonight doubt made it's way in and I was feeling very depressed. The doom and gloom set in and I felt overwhelmed...then I found this tread! Thank you to every one of you that posted here for the newbie, in the process you made this 'survivor' feel so much better!! I love this board, without it I think I would have gone insaine all those months ago! This disease seems so hopless some days then I come here and there all of you are, living life to the fullest. Love and health to you all!! xoxo, Angi
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Titan, Thanks for the invite to the other TN thread. I'll stop in.
Rachel
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Guys,
I'm with those of you who say, stay away from the scary stuff on the Internet. I had myself diagnosed as six feet under using the Internet. But there are decent websites out there - you just have to stay away from some of it. Triple Negative Foundation's website can be a little scary, but overall just informative, I think.
I started a site for us cancer survivors that I refuse to post the negative on. Not that I'm trying to deceive anyone, but there's so much positive to read and write about with cancer- things you can do to improve your health and stave off recurrence, survivors and organizations doing incredible things, new medicince, and a bunch of other stuff. If you guys get a chance, will you check out my site? www.1UpOnCancer.com
Happy Valentines Day and have a great week!
Rachel
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Rachel - you are sooo right - I did the same darn thing - I wish there was a way to put up notes in all the doc's offices that say "Don't go looking for the Med Sites on the Internet" when you first get diagnosed. Moreso for the triple negs!
I like your idea for a positive only place - I am in the process of writing a pamplet on positive ways to deal with a mets dx.
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LowRider, would like to see your brochure when you're done. We can't get enough of the positive.
MSe, I have to say, you are the first person your age I've heard say she has triple negative. Bless you! Have you called the triple negative foundation to ask who might have answers to your questions? Also to ALL YOU TN LADIES: CancerOrg has a Triple Negative helpline staffed with social workers who can answer a lot of your questions or find answers to them. They actually partner with the Triple Negative Foundation. I'm working on a story on their help line now.Rachel
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Rachel; I checked your website and wanted you to know that I found it very empowering and reassuring.
glad to hear the blueberries are good to prevent TN recurrence!! I buy Oregon brand canned blueberries (and cherries, b/c my husband has family history of prostate cancer/gout) which are packed in water and picked at the height of the season. I probably should not endorse a brand; but I stumbled upon it and wanted to share.
My husband is on Wt Watchers so I am putting fruits into just about anything! (now that fruits don't have "points") . Cooking healthy makes me feel like I am still on some anti-cancer "program" even tho I am done with chemo, radiation and surgeries.
Sending healthy thoughts to everyone! If only I enjoyed exercise as much as cooking; now that the weather is nice, I will start walking. Eileen
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Thanks for the compliment, Eileen. And thanks for info on the blueberries. So being in a can does not affect them in anyway other than to preserve them when they are ripest as long as they were picked when they were ripest?
Also, while we're on the subject of blueberries, did you ladies know that they are in the top dozen produce suggested to buy organic if you are going to buy anything organic? If you google Dirty Dozen, you'll find the list and info on the environmental organization that puts it out. I also have the list on my website on the front page along with little more related info.
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Yum! We are lucky that we live in an area that has a multitude of blueberry farms. We take the kids and spend a couple hours picking them off the bushes... sometimes 20 pounds in one picking! Then I freeze what we don't eat. Delicious!
MsE - Are you in poor health? I find it interesting that your doctor would not recommend chemo for you as a triple negative. There are so many different regimens - I am wondering if one of the less cardio toxic cocktails wouldn't work for you? Have you had heart issues in the past? Have your doctors spoken to the docs at the SCCA? My girl friend loved her oncologist in Seattle - she was also triple negative, but much younger than you (and slightly younger than me). She had chemo - and yes, she is still with us. I am going to see if I can find his name.
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Hmmm... I could only remember her surgical oncologist and that was David Byrd. I don't know who she used for medical oncology. I can try to email her and find out if you are interested.
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Hi there,
Most of us TN ladies won't have mets - but so hard not to think about it in the back of your head and the scary stuff we read! But just in case you're interested, I met someone online who was TN, had mets, and has been cancer free for 8 months after starting a new treatment. Of course, everyone's situation is different, even within TN, but I found what this woman shared encouraging ... Here's her post ....
I started Abraxene in October 2009 accompanied with Avastin. I am triple negative with mets to the right lung.
After every two months I had a PET scan which resulted in a decrease in my lung cancer every time.
I had 22 rounds of abraxene and 16 rounds of avastin. I have been cancer free for the past 8 months. -
Hi Triple Negative Ladies,
I just read what sounds like may turn out to be good news for those of you with a BRCA mutation. Here's the article so you can check it out for yourself. If you google BRCA and TN you'll find a couple of other articles that shed a little more light on this research too. http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sciencedaily.com%2Freleases%2F2010%2F09%2F100929191314.htm&h=933a1
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Hi all,
I just read what sounds like may turn out to be good news for ladies with TN who carry the BRCA mutation. If you google TN and BRCA mutation, you'll find a couple more articles that shed light on this same research. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/09/100929191314.htm
Rachel
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And I thought not having the BRCA gene was a good thing....
I hate seeing those 5-year survival rates of 52% in non BRCA TNS!! Wondering what chemo they got. I will console myself that the study dates back up to 25 years and the numbers are small, all while hoping it's good news for the BRCA carriers.
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Luah, my onc would say that those numbers don't include the bulk of dose-dense treatment, as well as neo-adjuvant, and that the 52% would be higher than that. Also, it says only 40% of TNs respond to chemo...maybe they mean pCR? Because TNs respond much better to chemo, even if just a partial response. But hopefully it is good news for BRCA carriers.
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Luah - I will be 6 years out in April... knock on wood. Do not lose hope. My treatment was neoadjuvant: Taxol weekly x 12, AC dose dense every other week x 4, mastectomy, rads x 30 with boost x 5 to chest wall, axilla and supraclavicular nodes. Yes, they were very aggressive. Yes, I got lymphedema... but the goal was to stay alive and cancer free... and so far, that goal has been met. Hang in there.
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Oh, and I am BRCA negative.
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Nordy, I love that you and other women who are 3, 5 or more years out keep posting here. It truly makes a difference. For the most part, I am optimistic, I really believe I will be okay... but now and then, some stats come up that bring the fears back.
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I agree with a previous poster. Stop reading about it. 99% of the people who post this stuff are NOT PHYSICIANS. It boggles my mind that people put so much faith into acquaintances online rather than their medical team.
Suggestion is a powerful thing. Stop your online 'research' and listen to your medical team. Get a second opinion. Believe it or not, not everything on the Internet is true.
@Lowrider - if you ride why don't you look up the Any Motorcyclists Out There thread
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I was dx with TN in November 2004. Did lumpectomy, chemo, rads. So that is just over 6 years. Unfortunately I developed a new primary in my other breast in January 2009 but it was not TN. At that time I did bmx and there was no evidence of the TN in the path report.
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Dawn31337: We alI come at this different ways, depending on our comfort zone. I admit, I'm an information junkie. I like to keep up on the latest medical research, online, which the posted article was about. I think as an informed patient, I keep my onc on her toes, because honestly... practicing clinicians have less time than I do to read up on the latest studies affecting my particular brand of BC. I ask better questions. I challenge her on the "accepted wisdom" and I truly believe I get better care as a result. For sure, none of us should go on uninformed opinions, nor should we put any stock in studies that don't come from authoritative medical web sites or peer-reviewed journals. But rather than saying to heck with all research online, I prefer to be selective and do my homework.
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Hi all.
Just got a clean PET/CT for my 2.5 year anniversary. I did the Happy Dance. Everyone here should know that if you do all you can for yourself, your chances to live Happily Ever After are quite good. At least far better than the initial stats say. And statistics say nothing at all about a person. You can't be 60% dead or 30% dead or 10% dead. You are alive, so just aim to stay there!
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What a nice anniversary gift, yellowdoglady. Congratulations!
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Luah, I don't advocate being an ostrich with my head in the sand, but self diagnosing is a grave mistake. We are not physicians. I have done research, but I don't get hung up on what other people say. With all due respect, unless you have been to medical school, you don't know any more than I do. It is really easy to take things on these boards out of context. The people who sail through chemo and rads and never have a recurrence aren't who is posting. Your 'research' is skewed. So unless you are compiling results from actual studies, and who has the time for that, what are you really learning? It's like saying how many conservative Republicans like Sarah Palin....you have a captive audience here. It is meaningless, statistically. OK, maybe not *meaningless* but certainly suspect.
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LOL the Sarah Palin analogy may be a bad once since you're Canadian!
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I just wanted to hit and run to say I'm an eight year survivor and had no reoccurances. I was diagnosed Stage II B. Three small tumors (largest was 2.5 centimenters) and it had spread to three nodes. I had uni mast and six treatments of the cocktail three weeks apart.No radiation.
What's interesting is after it was all over my doctor told me "I see no reason why it should re-occur' and it didn't. I've often wondered about that.
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Just wanted to let you know there's lots of hope out there! I am 3 years out and my onc told me on the last visit that it would be highly unlikely if this cancer came back. He had told us at the very beginning of treatment that it was very likely that my cancer was curable! I was 3B to start with, a 6cm+ tumor with skin involvement, did 6 rounds on carbo/taxotere, a unimast, and radiation. Worked thru the whole thing! You will get past this so don't worry too much! Good luck!
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Wow, you ladies are so wonderful to respond to her so quickly and with such love and determination
LOVING MOTHER,.
HELL NO, DO NOT GIVE UP!!!! I know 2 stage 4 bc survivors, I'm talking 12 years out!!!
Listen to what your fellow triple negative sisters are telling you, and as for the rest of us, we will hug and kiss you thru cyber space. You will survive this!!!
xoxoxxox
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dawn31337: I would kindly ask you to reread my post or look at the previous ones for the context in which it was made. I was certainly not advocating self-diagnosing, nor claiming some superior knowledge. Specifically, I said, "For sure, none of us should go on uninformed opinions, nor should we put any stock in studies that don't come from authoritative medical web sites or peer-reviewed journals." And yes, I do read actual studies or the summaries of them in medical journals - not the sound-bite versions of them that appear on TV, America Online etc.
Not sure how Sarah Palin comes into this... way up here in the north country, we'd thankfully almost forgotten about her - lol.
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Luah, sorry I misinterpreted your previous post. On some of the boards I frequent there are really some holier than thou people, and one even went so far to tell a newbie to ask so-and-so on these boards rather than take her Dr's advice.
I personally don't read the negative things if I can help it. I believe attitude and state of mind are half of this battle. I don't need self doubt.
As for Sarah, yes, I agree with you, her 15 minutes should have been up 20 minutes ago. The point I was trying to make, which maybe had nothing to do with your post, is the people who post here, by and large, are people with (very justifiable) complaints. You only get half of the story on these boards because you aren't hearing from the whole population. Those with good experiences aren't gloating about it.
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