February 2011 chemo pals
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Thank you Dogeyed for the advice. I believe you're right, when I'm able to drink more water I do start to feel better.
Hi Cairycat,, I was told that not all nurses are trained to take blood from the port. I go a week after my AC cycle and then the day before my next cycle. I go to a hospital different from my chemo center. I will drink more water this time and hope for better veins:)
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Sorry Melanie you went through 10 needle tries before they succeeded. You sound like such a sweet girl. I wish your next time to be much better. KIT
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Hi Ladies; Sorry I've been away from the boards for so long. Both my kids birthday's are in March and we've been busy visiting colleges for my daughter as well. What a busy process college applications have become. It was so much easier when I went through it years ago! Anyway she's looking for a college with a good 4 year BS in Nursing Program. It has become very competitive to get into these programs. She's wanted to go into medicine since she was 5 years old! Anyway, I'm going in for treatment number 2 of 4 tomorrow. Will be at the half way mark. I have to say I am still nervous about the whole thing even though I've been through it already. Of course I'm hopped up on steroids so that doesn't help with the nerves. Well, good luck to all of you sitting in the chair this week, will be thinking of you! ((( ))) Love, Mary
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Braveheart;
My veins are really bad as well. Aside from drinking plenty of water I also wear a fleece jacket and gloves on my way to the doctors and do fist pumps when I get to the waiting room. Heating up your arm and doing pumps helps the veins come to the surface. It really works. The nurses also say you can bring a heating pad and warm up your arm before they poke ya. Try it at home you'll see your veins come to the surface of your skin. They got me the first try last time!
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Mary;
Thanks for the update. Seems we're on the same regimine and you're one cycle ahead of me so it does help to hear from you! My hair is just about gone, started on day 15 and now just peach fuzz, but not totally bald, weird! Never shaved it, just cut it short so no stubble.
Dogpiskit; Putting lotion or cream on my head makes it easier to sleep at night since my head is still sore too, hopefully that will end soon.
Carirycat; My RBC is also low but my onc said he'd give me intravenous iron before he'd ever give me a blood transfusion. Ask yours about that.
Emily; I had a rash on the back of my hands, chest and stomach last time for a few days, it turned out to be a reaction from the Taxotere. The onc said it was fine but he wanted me to come in to make sure it wasn't shingles. Definitely go in.
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I'm mad and hurt today.
I'm 35, I have 4 kids (DD 14, DS 11 and & twin DS 6). I know this cancer thing is hard on them. I'm trying very hard to shield them from the continual drama of hairloss, chemo, sickness, fear, etc.
So I ask my DD 14 to switch the laundry 3 different times today. Finally I tell her, "Listen. I need your help. We all have to work together to get stuff done around here."
Her response? "Well, I think you're just using all this cancer stuff as a scapegoat to get us to do stuff."
<cyberscream>
I actually left my Nexium rx at the pharmacy this week because our money is so tight that I couldn't afford it and the gift for her longtime friend's party this weekend.
She's apologetic. But I'm still hurt. Seriously.
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pejkug -I know it is hard when your kids don't respond the way you would like them to, but try to remember that 14 year olds should be sent to live on an island by themselves! My DD is now 21 but I recall that time period like it was yesterday. They are all hormones and drama. You are probably coming off to her as very capable because you have tried so hard to shield them that you seem OK - remember you are dealing with HER thought process when she says something insensitive or hurtful she is using a 14 year old's viewpoint. Could she feel like you are asking more from her because she is the oldest and the only girl? I know my DD feels it more because her brother is away at college and really doesn't have to deal with any of this, aside from worrying from a distance.
That probably didn't help at all, but at least know I feel for you. Wish I was there to bring you some Nexium and a hug.
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Pejkug3..you will likely hear from many of us who have raised teenage daughters. They do say some awful things and you wonder what planet they came from and how they could be so self centred sometimes. I don't have an answer for that but it does hurt and you will forgive them in time because you love them. My point is I guess that it is just something they seem to do...and from experience it seems better to just ignore such thoughtless remarks or else tell them how the remark made you feel and then let it go. My daughter is 28 now and we are very close but those teen years can be rough. It is even harder when you are dealing with your own illness. Just wanted to let you know that I do understand exactly what you are feeling. *hugs*
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JeanH..the area is near where I had my Neulasta shot 9 days ago.
M1nn1e..I'll probably call the onco tomorrow and ask her to have a look at it..
Thanks for the responses..:)
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Hi Girls, just a quick update after my 2nd TCH treatment on Thursday.
Cairycat - Yes, I had a major heavy period after my first treatment and then about a week later started a really light flow that continues, ugh!
Ruffolo1 - I also have very blurred vision, almost hard to drive, started right after my first treatment. I keep forgetting to ask the Onc about it.
Mielanie_Ann - and anyone else experiencing constipation. I had it so bad after the first treatment, even taking meds, so I tried Acupuncture and it was a life saver! Was only going 1-2 times per week, went for one treatment, and three times that day!!! I plan to go back this week for same plus she said she can help with headaches and stomach. Just thought I'd throw it out there because it was painless and worked so well!!!!
pejkug3 - I started losing hair about 2 weeks after my first TCH, and I just went ahead and shaved it before the second treatment. It was one less thing I had to stress about and even though I said I would be a wig-only gal, I am enjoying hats, scarves and fun wigs! Not the same as my real hair, but not half as bad as I imagined!!!!
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Braveheart, I did notice in first and second AC treatments that my throat got sore, so I gargled several times a day with salt water with a little baking soda, helped ease it. I did have to cut back on talking, too.
Melanie, I feel for your nondigestion situation...I keep BabyLax or PediaLax around, a little box of tubes, squirt one or two in rear if digestion is ready to come out, but won't, and it'll blast it out within a minute, might help prime the pump, very powerful, tho.
Safari, I did so find relief in reading your post. I also have heartburn first time in my life, dreadful feeling, got some nonaspirin alkaselter, the bicarb releases the burps. Thanks for fingernail idea, when I do Taxol supposedly I'll have that.
Sister Dogbiskit, I ditto Safari, head cactus sensitivity gets less and goes away, I had to turn my night cap inside out becuz of seams! Loved your description of walking like hunchback, yup, I'm suddenly my grandfather, leaning over, shuffling.
Well, I got to say this third chemo has been easiest, barely a nightmare, but wake up too many times, at 2 a.m. took one of my tranqs and a sleepy antinausea, kept me down rest of last night. Pain is not as bad in body but still awful, esp legs, feet, glad I got Percocet for it early on. Last night, girls, I just lost it, my chemo madness took over and I was upset with husband over nothing, men are tough and share less than women, yet mine has been uncharacteristically sympathetic, still I pushed his efforts aside and whined he wasn't consoling me enough, when all it was is my fear fear fear of not feeling well at all. I finally told husband before I went to bed last night, I mistakenly believe this illness really is about ME and thus I feel entitled somehow to freely swipe everyone around me with my big clawed tiger paw if they don't bow down and grovel at my feet. I think we can take this self-centeredness too far. But dang, I have NEVER been so miserable in all my life, it's like torture, which in my opinion being prisoner of war is the worst thing a person can go thru.
CHARLOTTESMAMA, you're getting surgery between AC and T, could you tell me if you had any inflammatory presentation, or are you just invasive carcinoma? I want so much to talk doc into doing mine like yours, cuz I simply do not know if I can keep going like this, afraid my madness won't go away. I guess we each have diff treatment methods depending on many factors. GG
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Hi Chemo Cowgrrrls! Sorry I've been AWOL. My computer came back from repair and now cannot connect to my local free network. I have to go to the library or my favorite cafe to get a connection. I'm going to take some time to read back through all I've missed the past few days.
Shout out to Fuzzy! We'll have that wine date once I get a new wifi adapter. Jean~do you have an iPad? I'm thinking of selling this laptop (a Christmas present) on eBay and replacing it with an iPad that my daughter can use for communication.
cheers ladies,
Michelle
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Update on reddened area on my inner thigh...
Just spent 13 hours in Emerg. I went to the hospital last night when I saw the reddened area was spreading down my inner thigh to my knee. It was also quite sore so I decided I couldn't leave it. After an 8 hour wait I saw the doctor and he felt it could be cellulitis, blood clot or start of shingles.( all possibilities I had considered) I had an ultrasound to rule out blood clots and because he felt that since there wasn't any real sign of blistering yet to indicate shingles it was likely cellulitis.My temp was 36.1 so no fever. I had IV antibiotics there and was allowed home with instructions to come back if it continued to spread. Also have antibiotic pills. I DID have my neulasta shot 10 days ago in that thigh but more to the front top of my thigh than inner so the doctor didn't say for sure that there was a relationship but not sure what else to think. Will be talking to the onco next week about it. Emergency doctor did phone Onco and she made a curious remark that Neulasta was usually given in the abdomen. That's not what my information said. Thighs were also supposed to be okay. Where is everyone else getting theirs?
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I get Neulasta in the back of my left arm - non node-dissection arm. Have had 2 tx and received the shot in the same place both times. No issues.
Is your thigh swollen? Usually with cellulitis you have some water retention and swelling along with the surface of the skin problems. It canbe caused by a breakin the skin but I am not sure if the cellulitis has to be in the same exact place as the break which might explain why it is not located exactly where your injection site is.
New and lovely problem for me. When I went in for my CBC last Friday I mentioned some UTI-like symptoms. Just got a call 5 minutes ago from the onc office and I do indeed have one. They are going to try one of the few antibiotics I am not allergic to and see if it works. If it doesn't they said we may have to consult an infectious diseases specialist to find a solution! Yikes!!! And I was just starting the two weeks of feeling good.....before I have to feel bad again!
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I get mine in my arm as well. But I don't see why it would be a problem in the thigh or the abdomen.
I thought I was getting a UTI the other day as well, but mine came back clear. That does not sound fun! I'm allergic to a few antibiotics too and they always have to search for something to give me when I need one. I'm trying to stay antibiotic free during this. I'm sorry for the setback! =(
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Hi ladies. Where's Fuzzy? I get my Neulasta shot in my belly.
Funny story: I was working on my computer at my local diner, sitting in my usual sunny window. I took my hat off because I was warm. Suddenly noticed a boy around 10 or 11 staring at me from the sidewalk. When I looked at him, he gave me the monkey "oohooohoooh" face complete with underarm scratching. Then he ran off. When I stepped outside about 20 minutes later, he was still hanging around with his buddy. So I went up to him. took off my hat and said, "Wanna know why I'm bald?" He feigned ignorance. I told him I saw him making monkey faces at me. He looked sheepish and mumbled "sorry". I said, "I'm bald because I have cancer. So next time you see a bald lady, you bet she probably has cancer too." He looked right at me and said, "I'm sorry. I hope you get better." LOL!
Later lovely ladies,
Michelle
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charlottesmama...What a cheeky lad...."out of the mouth of babes" eh? I'm glad you had an opportunity to talk to him. He may grow up to be a better man for the experience. I bet he'll always remember that encounter.
SpecialK..you probably already know that cranberry juice really does help with UTI. It's nice with gingerale...10 oz. per day, 2 oz. concentrate or cranberry pills. (see Merckmanual.com) Thought I'd share that in case it helps somebody.
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SpecialK ..and yes...retaining fluid in my legs but mostly lower legs. I had some retention prior to chemo but it's worse on chemo..:( Don't think I'll do Neulasta in the legs again..if I even do it again)
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Emily - Thanks for the cranberry reminder! I stocked up over the weekend as I felt mild symptoms on Friday which is why I did a urinalysis when I had the CBC. It took them over the weekend to culture the sample so they just called me today. They called in a scrip for me to the pharmacy. I actually had problems with UTI when I was middle-school aged and they just always treated the symptoms. A bright doc questioned it when I was in college and it turned out I had a congenital birth defect - urethral stenosis. It was surgically corrected and I never had a problem save for one UTI with each pregnancy. It has been 21 years since I last had one!
As far as the Neulasta - how have your white counts been? Does your onc think you might be able to skip it? It is interesting that this UTI for me developed even though my white counts are fantastic. So, who knows...
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I get Nuelasta shot in the tummy, going for my shot tomorrow!
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Specialk..My WBC counts have been fine each chemo round, however they were slightly raised last night with the cellulitis so at least my body is trying to fight that. 14.5 I think they said the WBC count was.
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Also, since my WBC were fine last cycle, they're only giving me half the dose of Neulasta this time, 3mg instead of 6mg.
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14.5 for WBC?
Mine started at 7.XX and dropped to 5.XX after TCH #1. No Neulasta for me as standard of care.
Do colds raise WBC? Lower them?
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A bacterial infection can raise a white count and a viral infection (like a cold) can lower them.
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This may be way more than anybody wants to know about WBC but it does show the factors that can raise or lower WBC counts..( again from merck.com)
Acute emotional or physical stress can increase WBC counts. There are various types of white blood cells (WBCs) that normally appear in the blood: neutrophils (polymorphonuclear leukocytes; PMNs), band cells (slightly immature neutrophils), T-type lymphocytes (T cells), B-type lymphocytes (B cells), monocytes, eosinophils, and basophils. T and B-type lymphocytes are indistinguishable from each other in a normal slide preparation. Any infection or acute stress will result in an increased production of WBCs. This usually entails increased numbers of cells and an increase in the percentage of immature cells (mainly band zcells) in the blood. This change is referred to as a "shift to the left" People who have had a splenectomy have a persistent mild elevation of WBCs. Drugs that may increase WBC counts include epinephrine, allopurinol, aspirin, chloroform, heparin, quinine, corticosteroids, and triamterene. Drugs that may decrease WBC counts include antibiotics, anticonvulsants, antihistamine, antithyroid drugs, arsenicals, barbiturates, chemotherapeutic agents, diuretics and sulfonamides. Normal values: WBC: 4,500 to 10,000 cells/mcl Note: cells/mcl = cells per microliter What abnormal results mean: Low numbers of WBCs (leukopenia) may indicate: bone marrow failure (for example, due to granuloma, tumor, fibrosis) presence of cytotoxic substance collagen-vascular diseases (such as lupus erythematosus) disease of the liver or spleen radiation High numbers of WBCs (leukocytosis) may indicate: infectious diseases inflammatory disease (such as rheumatoid arthritis or allergy) leukemia severe emotional or physical stress tissue damage (for example, burns)
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I get my Neulasta in the back of the upper arm, fyi.
Funny Special K and others bring up UTI. I sort of feel the same way after my second THC treatment. Slight burning and possibly a litle blood, but nothing horribly uncomfortable. Never sure when I should call or just make note of things. Overall, so far so good day 4 but last time it all started day 5...... so we shall see.
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Ok, girls - no posts in 13 hours? Does that mean everyone is doing well and enjoying the spring weather?
I'm feeling overwhelmed and tired today. I posted in the "Surgery" forum that I have blue nipple discharge nearly two months after my lumpectomy. Yes, it is BLUE. Like radioactive dye, blue Kool-Aid, Smurf BLUE. I called the surgeon's office and they don't seem to think I need to worry too much. And I don't think I am. But it is concerning. Really, what will they tell me? I have cancer? Yeah, too late for that. So I have an appt at the surgeon on April 4.
Can we talk about hair for a minute? I think I may have extra strength hair...it seems to have stopped shedding? I had TCH #2 on 3/17. My hair started shedding that night. Now it has all but stopped. I had my husband scissor it off on 3/17, so it's hideous and I have to wear something to cover it. How long did it take for you guys to lose hair? Are we talking 'shiny bald'?
I walked 3 miles yesterday. Talking myself into a short 1 mile walk today.
What are you guys eating? I have a lot of weight to lose and I try to eat well. But when I eat healthy things, the Big D kicks in and I live on Lomotil. I had lost 40lbs before my diagnosis and I've been holding that line. But I'd love to lose more and I definitely have a lot more to lose. Unfortunately, I'm a bit of a nutritional idiot.

How is everyone?
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FEC-D Start: Jan 28 2011 Cycle 3/6 Day 12
pejkug3...who knew our bodies could do such amazing/odd/weird? things...blue..wow..has to be the dye but how strange it that it should start now. I think while we are on chemo "strange" must be the new "normal".
I have had 3 rounds of chemo and have not lost any hair since chemo round 1. I have 2%? ( how does one really estimate) of my hair left. I am quite disgusted that I still have hair on my legs.And right now I eat whatever sounds good but I always have eaten fairly healthy. I don't usually eat processed foods but if I'm not feeling well enough to cook I eat whatever is easy.
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Hey all. Got my surgery date: May 3. That makes it real and I'm scared.
Pejkug3: the dye that some docs use for the lymph node biopsy is blue, I believe. Maybe that's what you're seeing? My hair also seems to have stopped falling out, and is only 1/16" long. Hoping I won't go "shiny". A friend told me recently she was sitting behind a man with a shiny bald head during a screening of The English Patient. She said every time there was a desert scene she had to squint because of the glare on his head! LOL! I've been packing on a little weight (I had lost almost 40# too), but consider it generous contributions to my "donation site".
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charlottesmama..what type of surgery are you doing? I'm sure you have mentioned it before...but I can't remember anything older than 5 minutes ago.
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