Huffington Post article by Dr. Weiss

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  • toni30
    toni30 Member Posts: 252
    edited March 2011

    I meant "molecularly"

  • msippiqueen
    msippiqueen Member Posts: 191
    edited March 2011

    Tar Baby Alert!



    Claiming fact from undocumented new research, then pronouncing it as well established, generates a Charlie Sheen style of speaking it into being.



    Sorry Ruby, this one rings hollow.

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited March 2011

    The biggest risk factor is being born a woman. The second biggest is growing older - which we all do every day no matter our age



    The rest of it is a crap shoot



    I also am tired of people making up connections between abortion and BC. That makes no sense

  • debbie6122
    debbie6122 Member Posts: 5,161
    edited March 2011

     I had my daughter at an early age, and my daughter had her children at a early age, we both breast fed, didnt have miscarrages or abortions never took the pill or any hormone replacements , didnt start my period untill i was 14 and my daughter didnt start hers untill she was 13, never had breast cancer in our family untill my daughter was dx 3 yrs ago w/bc and me a year later- Im begining to believe they will never find out the 'why' we get bc i dont think there is any ryhme or reason to it,  it just is.

    What im getting tired of is the health care cant seem to make up there minds, like what age is right for mamo's, and now there is talk of not doing chemo that it may not do any good for some er/pr types even when there is lymph nodes involved, then, soy is ok, then its not, now its ok again WTH, why cant they get it right in the first place with all the billions of dollars on trying to find the cure, who do we belive and trust?

    My daughter and I dont have the brca gene but we both have a gene that is an "uncertain variable of uncertain significance" When i called the counsler on this they couldnt tell me anything said they still dont know what this means but are continuing to study this, i spent time and money to be tested for this and still have no answers- How can they find a cure if they dont have a clue about all the rest of it.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2011
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2011

    I think there are many causes to this very complex disease

  • lassie11
    lassie11 Member Posts: 1,500
    edited March 2011

    Rubyeye - whoever you are - posting a link from some anti choice site still does not make your nonsense true.

    There is no link, no matter how often you repeat it or what specious links you find. There is no link between abortion and breast cancer, unless you want to point out that both things happen to women. The only possible link, just as HRF said, is being born female. Nothing else.

  • cookiegal
    cookiegal Member Posts: 3,296
    edited March 2011

    @Toni 30

    Komen puts about 25 percent towards research.

    Other money goes towards a varity of programs, some which are very helpful to women with BC.

    If you are looking for a charity that is focused on research, the Breast Cancer Research Foundation is a good one.

    I think they are both worthwhile, they just have different missions.

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited March 2011

    Rubyeye .. that link you posted is nothing but right wing propaganda.

    Bren

  • kira1234
    kira1234 Member Posts: 3,091
    edited March 2011

    Rubyeye, I can't see anyway me having several miscarages caused me to have cancer. This is a very hurfull message to those of us who have lost children. I chose to adopt after 5 miscarages over several years.

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited March 2011

    Rubyeye, you are free to go and publish your rubbish theory on Huffpost, assuming they will take you. In the meantime, I am curious to know whether you had breast cancer and whether that means you had an abortion. The faulty logic goes both ways.

  • Chan_go_foill
    Chan_go_foill Member Posts: 50
    edited March 2011

    The article failed to mention that Dr Weiss was herself recently diagnosed with breast cancer: http://www.npr.org/2010/12/14/131760656/a-breast-oncologist-diagnosed-with-the-disease

    I think we need to keep in mind that sometimes even the most health-conscious people get breast cancer and that even the healthiest lifestyle is no guarantee that it won't happen to you. We can only do our best and hope for the best.

    I strongly object to the "partnership" with the company at the bottom of the article. I prefer unbiased information that isn't endorsing any products or companies.

    I was also rather shocked when I heard in the NPR piece that Dr Weis went against the standard procedures for treatment and opted to have hormonal therapy without chemo, saying that it wasn't necessary for her. I hope that other women hearing that piece don't think they too should go against best practices in order to avoid chemo. I think that really sent the wrong message.

  • debbie6122
    debbie6122 Member Posts: 5,161
    edited March 2011

    I noticed her very first post on this forum and she has made no mention of her bc any where hmmm...

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2011

    s of 2006, eight medical organizations recognize that abortion raises a woman's risk for breast cancer, independently of the risk of delaying the birth of a first child (a secondary effect that all experts already acknowledge).  An additional medical organization, the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, issued a statement in 2003 calling on doctors to inform patients about a "highly plausible" relationship between abortion and breast cancer.  General counsel for that medical group wrote an article for its journal warning doctors that three women (two Americans, one Australian) successfully sued their abortion providers for neglecting to disclose the risks of breast cancer and emotional harm, although none of the women had developed the disease.  Click here for more.

     
      
            
       
     

     

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2011

    My intent was not to be hurtful to anyone, just show some facts.  The rate of breast cancer has gone up in a similar fashion to the rate of abortion.

    There is a difference hormonally between an abortion and the medication given after abortion, and a miscarriage.  I do not think that this implicates miscarriage anywhere

    Why not look through the various articles, different countries, different doctors etc before you just call it an "anti-choice" propaganda.  That was not my intent and it is hurtful

    I do have other sources if any of you are interested in researching this further.  I think you will find it interesting.  Would you not want to know or have your daughter know that abortion could raise the risk of breast cancer if considering it?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2011

    1Athena1 - NO I did not have an abortion and YES I do have BC.  No research ....oh never mind your tone is nasty and I don't think you want to listen to all the sides.

    I WOULD NEVER KILL MY BABY !!

  • DesignerMom
    DesignerMom Member Posts: 1,464
    edited March 2011

    Perhaps Dr. Weiss isn't going against the standard of care by not doing chemo.  If her Oncotype score was low, this IS the new standard of care, certainly if she did not have postitive nodes.  If chemo is not indicated, it can do more harm than good.

    ruby-  You really need to stop posting your nonsense about abortions being a link with BC.  Please think about the audience you are preaching to.  Whether or not any of these women had abortions or miscarriages, what possible good can come of you lecturing to them now?  This is not the place for your agenda.

  • toni30
    toni30 Member Posts: 252
    edited March 2011

    Cookie - Thanks for that information. I will look into them.

    Ruby - I thinhk we have all heard what you have to say. Please let others speak and take your message to another website. We don't want you here.

  • AnnNYC
    AnnNYC Member Posts: 4,484
    edited March 2011
    Rubyeye -- some of the studies listed on the link you provided do include miscarriages under the term "abortion" (the medical term for miscarriage is "spontaneous abortion").  The Sri Lanka study counted miscarriages as abortions.
  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 7,799
    edited March 2011

    post removed by me

    peace and love, apple
    Diagnosis: 5/10/2008, IDC, 5cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, 4/9 nodes, ER+, HER2+

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2011

    I really don't know why you all have so much hostility.  Don't you want as much information as possible - for the young women in your lives you love ?

    IF there is no medical evidence, then why did the women that sued their doctors for not informing them of the proved link between abortion and BC WIN in court ?  These were women without BC, but worried about it and the court cases took place in different countries.

    Don't be so mean here,  we need to all come together and help each other.  We can have a difference of opinion but be open minded for the sake of others we could help

    Edited - I am NOT lecturing anyone

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited March 2011

    Has the number of posts per day for newbies changed?  I thought newbies were limited to 5 posts per day, but Rubyeye has posted 11 times within the last 9 hours (and that's not including editing).  Just wondering......

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited March 2011

    Apple - I am not saying an opinion is rubbish. What is rubbish is information with no scientific proof that is disguised as fact. This misinformation is particulary cruel in light of the fact that this is a forum for women who have BC and iot comes literally as women here are posting that they had miscarriages. Doesn't that shock you? It is hurtful not only to women who had abortions but also to those who had miscarriages. And to those who had neither. The truth should never be held back simply because it is hurtful - but this is not the truth. It is heresay. We don't get to have an opinion on the causes of cancer - they are what they are or not. To suggest something --"abortion causes breast cancer"-- that is known to further a political agenda in the real world  is shocking to me. It really reaches a new low.

    Rubyeye, I don't know what your intentions are, so I can only speculate and keep those thoughts to myself. I just ask you to be sensitive and bear in mind that some women just posted that they had miscarriages, and yet you continued.  

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited March 2011

    Lindasa, the five-post-per-day maximum was just lifted a few days ago.

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited March 2011

    Thanks Athena.  I missed that rule change.

  • 208sandy
    208sandy Member Posts: 2,610
    edited March 2011

    And didn't we all think that lifting the minimum was a bad idea - looks like this proves it doesn't it?

    Sandy

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2011

    Athena1 - Can you please inform me exactly why your think these facts are political? and please answer directly what you read that said there was no scientific information?

    s of 2006, eight medical organizations recognize that abortion raises a woman's risk for breast cancer, independently of the risk of delaying the birth of a first child (a secondary effect that all experts already acknowledge).  An additional medical organization, the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, issued a statement in 2003 calling on doctors to inform patients about a "highly plausible" relationship between abortion and breast cancer.  General counsel for that medical group wrote an article for its journal warning doctors that three women (two Americans, one Australian) successfully sued their abortion providers for neglecting to disclose the risks of breast cancer and emotional harm, although none of the women had developed the disease.  Click here for more.

    I just really cannot understand why you are all so hostile.  Unless you did not read the medical studies

  • Fearless_One
    Fearless_One Member Posts: 3,300
    edited March 2011

    I didn't mind the article at all.   I just didn't think it shed light on anything new.   Eh, my money is still on BC pills, if I had to gamble and guess at what caused my BC.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2011

    Rubyeye:

    I think you've clearly stated your point of view here.  Maybe you want to give it up now that you have since we are free to agree or disagree with you or this research.

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited March 2011

    That article was written in 2006.  I have had 4 children and I got BC.

    Waving to Daisy!!!!

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