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cookiegal
cookiegal Member Posts: 3,296
edited June 2014 in Lymphedema

I am having trouble dealing with all the questions I get wearing the sleeve and glove.

My industry convention is in the fall, my husband really wants me to go.

I could get away with no compression for an hour or two or three at an event, but what am I going to do for 3 whole days of meeting people, seminars, and mixers 10-12 hours a day.

My husband is very keen for me to go, we met at the convention, and it has finally been moved to a city we both love. 

But there is no way I can travel cross country and spend 10-12 hours a day with no garments is there?

It's not till the fall but I am really concerned.

I prefer to be straight forward with people when they ask. I say I had breast cancer and now I have problems with my lymph nodes. But the thought of saying that dozens of times day after day????

I don't see how I can go!

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  • Nordy
    Nordy Member Posts: 2,106
    edited March 2011

    Tell them it swelled up really badly after the last person asked you and you punched them...

  • Nordy
    Nordy Member Posts: 2,106
    edited March 2011

    LOL, sorry... just kidding. It does get old after a while, but chances are after you tell a couple people, then they will all start asking each other because they will feel too embarrassed to ask you!

  • Estel
    Estel Member Posts: 3,353
    edited March 2011

    I've found that most people don't ask.  I have a job that puts me out there ... I stand in front of people and have to shake hands and most don't ask.  Please don't let this be the reason why you don't go ... and I think too it DOES get easier with time.  People say stupid things ... we've all heard about 'em concerning our bc and now about the sleeves and gloves ... knowing that some people will say stupid things kind of prepares me for the worst, although sometimes there are zingers I wasn't expecting. 

    GO!  Don't let lymphedema steal this opportunity away.  It already has taken so much.  When people ask me about my gloves & sleeves, I usually respond, "I have complications due to a surgery."  Most don't ask any more questions.  If they say something stupid ... I really like Nordy's line!  Wink  I think it being in the fall will help too ... I am dreading summer and not being able to hide most of the garments under my clothing.

    Don't let lymphedema steal more from you more than what it already has!

  • NatsFan
    NatsFan Member Posts: 3,745
    edited March 2011

    I think most people ask because they think it's a sports or other temporary injury and are trying in their own dumb way to start a conversation so they can show some sympathy.  Like Dawn, I have a simple one sentence response - in my case it's "Breast cancer treatments left me with a bum arm."  I don't even explain about lymph nodes or anything else - just a simple sentence.  Dropping the big "C" word is usually enough to stop them in their tracks.  I'd find a short sentence you like and you're comfortable using, and have that at the ready. 

    Go to the convention with your DH and enjoy!!!! 

  • mrsnjband
    mrsnjband Member Posts: 1,409
    edited March 2011

    Some adults ask me what it is & that they think it will help them with issue they are having.  When my students ask me, (k-3) I just tell them I had surgery a few years ago & that it hurts & the sleeve makes it feel better.  That usually takes care of it.  NJ

  • anneflorida
    anneflorida Member Posts: 59
    edited March 2011

    I have struggled with an answer also and have come up with that I have some swelling in my arm and the wrapping or sleeve helps.  I also usually add that it is not painful and thank them for their concern.  At the beginning, I did mention breast cancer and lymph nodes and soon realized that was more information than they wanted and that I wanted to give to strangers.  

  • toomuch
    toomuch Member Posts: 901
    edited March 2011

    Cookiegal-I agree with everyone above.You shouldn't let LE steal this opportunity away from you and your DH. Many times a day at work, I respond that I have complications from surgery. That seems to satisfy the curious. Recently I started wearing a black garmet and I've found I get less questions. My son says that it looks more like something people wear during sports competition, maybe that's why less questions. Anyway, I hope that you go and enjoy!!!!

  • Omaz
    Omaz Member Posts: 5,497
    edited March 2011
    cookiegal - When people ask me I say 'Oh, it's for lymphedema' with finality and go back to something at hand.  Almost everytime I have done that they say 'oh' and move on.  Best wishes!
  • Sher
    Sher Member Posts: 540
    edited March 2011

    Most of the time I just say it's not an injury, then indicating the garments, tell them they are to control edema or swelling. Most folks are aware of and can understand the need for support hose, so I just let them think along those lines.  Like Omaz said, the way you comment with finality and then change the subject will most always keep people from probing further.

    Please don't let wearing compression garments keep you from doing something you love! 

  • Binney4
    Binney4 Member Posts: 8,609
    edited March 2011

    Cookie, if you let the LE rob you of this lovely opportunity, we'll ALL suffer! Go! Love it! Enjoy the city and the occasion and the people. Stick to the subject of the convention and don't let them sidetrack your pleasure.

    Have to agree, my black garments get a LOT less comments than the others -- even other colors. In fact a few times I've had people compliment me on them and ask me where I got them.

    Thank you all for your very sensible, pragmatic suggestions for ways to answer those questions. Anne, I think thanking them for their concern and telling them it doesn't hurt is wonderful. I do that with little kids, who quickly worry about such things, but have never thought to use it with adults. It definitely deflects any further conversation because you've dismissed their "need" to sympathize. Gotta try that out!

    Cookie, have some lines handy and go for it!
    Hugs,
    Binney

  • Suzybelle
    Suzybelle Member Posts: 920
    edited March 2011

    Hi, Cookie:

    I can so relate to your dilemma, and I have a bit of a different viewpoint than the other wonderful ladies.  I think they make excellent points...but being only a year out from a bmx and less than a year out from LE diagnosis, I have a different opinion. 

    If you don't think you can handle it emotionally, mentally, etc., to be at that event with compression garments on, don't go.  You've been through hell.  There's nothing wrong with taking some time to recover.  You can always do the event or similar events next year.

    On the other hand, the event is in the fall.  That's six months away, at least.  You may feel very different then.  I was so raw last year...I could barely keep it together, and when someone would ask me about my compression garments, I felt like a deer caught in the headlights.  Now it doesn't even bother me, and I am currently walking around with black kinesio tape striping (and I mean about 10 stripes) the whole length of my Casper-like arm.  And I'm wearing short sleeves.  And I don't care what it looks like or what someone asks me.  CoolI just look at it as a way to do some LE education for the unaware masses.  But I've had time to deal with everything, and am in a much better, stronger place than I was in say, August of last year.  August 2010 I was a total freakin' hot mess.

    Do what you feel like you can handle.  And then don't feel guilty about it, and don't feel like you're not strong enough, not mentally well enough, etc.  You're just trying to recover from and cope with some really bad sh#t.  So if you need a break, cut yourself one and don't feel bad about it.

    Just my opinion!!!!  Love you guys.

    Suzanne

    P.S.  Had to add that Nordy's answer about swelling from punching people had me rolling.  Why did I never think of that????? Brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!

  • cookiegal
    cookiegal Member Posts: 3,296
    edited March 2011

    Thanks for all the advice!!!!

    As always.

    I will think it all through.

    I really need a black glove.

    The bi-lat sleeve in black looks ok with a sleeveless black dress, but the beige medi glove gets so grubby. I wash it every night!

    When I was wearing the isotoner glove (even two, one with the fingers chopped off) nobody said much, I think they just thought I had bizarre, Micheal Jackon-esqe taste in hand wear, but the medi glove seems to shout here I am!!!

  • Nordy
    Nordy Member Posts: 2,106
    edited March 2011

    ....another thought, you can always get one of the funky lymphediva sleeves OR that other company (someone help me out here) that makes the sleeve covers and go that way!

    In all seriousness, I usually just tell people, "I have lymphedema as a result of breat cancer treatment."  That simple. Sometimes they just look at me and say, "Oh." Sometimes they ask what lymphedema is, so I educate them on it... but usually I get the, "But you're so young!" (I'm not... really, but I have young children and I am young(er) in the whole breast cancer scheme of things). It usually ends up being a conversation about breast cancer rather than the lymphedema. But it is interesting that SO many people will ask me "when" the LE will go away... I wish... 

  • cookiegal
    cookiegal Member Posts: 3,296
    edited March 2011

    I wish the funky sleeves worked for me...but anything with a band at the top is a problem.

    nd gauntlets are a little dicey, but I have not given up. 

    I may get a custom someday, the lyphedema sleeve co bi lat is the only thing that fits well, and it's compression is 15-21. I think the plan is to have me wear a jut-a-fit over it.

    I don't have a problem with random people, but in a networking situation I am not crazy about having to explain it away all day for three days.

    I'm gonna find a way to make this work, somehow.

  • Estel
    Estel Member Posts: 3,353
    edited March 2011

    cookiegal - I just had a thought ... hope it helps.  The first time I went to the gym with my gloves on ... I was so self-conscious, felt incredibly embarrassed and was a complete basket case.  I can't remember what I said when people asked about the gloves ... all I wanted to do was cry ... but then my class started and I was able to focus on the movement instead of the gloves.  I don't know what has happened ... maybe just time ... but now when I go to the gym I don't think about.  Yes, people still look ... but I just look at them at smile.  It doesn't bother me anymore.

     Maybe what it is going to take for you is just a little time ... the first time will be tough ... but once you get over the first day, the first session ... the next time will be a little easier for you.  You're going to be there with someone who loves you, someone who this is important to ... focus on those things and try not to focus on the gloves.  We're so much more than our lymphedema garments ... we still have personality, we still have love & compassion ... we're so much more and we have so much more to offer than just our outside appearance & our gloves and sleeves.  Focus on you as a person ... what you have to offer ... who you are and not so much the external things.  I'm preaching to myself here!  Wink  Some days I'm able to do it better than others ... I like the black idea ... black sleeves and black gloves ... that would be cool!  I know juzo makes a black glove and farrow now has a black glove ... I'm not sure it is long-fingered yet ... but black gloves and black sleeves could make a nice outfit even better!  Cool 

    Much love to you!  We so know, we really do!  [[[[hugs]]]] 

  • cookiegal
    cookiegal Member Posts: 3,296
    edited March 2011

    Dawne you are right...I wear everything at work, and it's no problem. People are just used to seeing all kinds of stuff on my arm.

    (Seriously I had a bright pink kineseo tape octopus looking thing on my arm!)

    It's getting outside my comfort zone that's tough.

  • rystofersmith
    rystofersmith Member Posts: 5
    edited March 2011
    I have a sar in my arm and i placed a tattoo on it so over it up. painting and decorating
  • Marple
    Marple Member Posts: 19,143
    edited March 2011

    Sheesh about the above post which will hopefully soon be gone.

  • Leah_S
    Leah_S Member Posts: 8,458
    edited March 2011

    So I reported it, to and POOF! it's gone.

    Leah

  • Marple
    Marple Member Posts: 19,143
    edited March 2011

    There are 3 other posts from rysto that have yet to be removed.  Seems this new 'edit' feature is making us afraid to report spam or advertising.  Not sure which this falls under.  Either one I guess.

  • Estel
    Estel Member Posts: 3,353
    edited March 2011

    cookiegal - If you can wear pink kinesio tape on your arm at work octopus sytle ... YOU CAN DO THIS!  You really can!  Kiss

    hugs and love!

    dh

  • Suzybelle
    Suzybelle Member Posts: 920
    edited March 2011

    I had to sing at my church last week and realized as I was standing in front of a big group of people that I had on 3/4 length sleeves and had black kinesio tape running down my arm - like a zebra.  I got some strange looks, which is what caused me to realize it!!!

     I am definitely learning what Kermit sang...it's not easy being green.  Tongue out

    Hang in there, COOKIE!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • faithandfifty
    faithandfifty Member Posts: 10,007
    edited March 2011

    Well, Cookie dearest. In addition to all of the plans above.... I have one additional suggestion.

    Give yourself permission 'not' to go. Give yourself permission to go -- and attend what ya want.... making that decision on an hour by hour basis. You seriously aren't required to show up for every single event, every single hour. Try not to think of it as a totally black & white option. There are a gazillion shades of gray that could make this work.

    Give yourself space to 'go-with-the-flow' rather than all or nothing.

    So my suggestion?

    PHARMACEUTICALS!!!!

    I have a prescription for Atavan -- my miracle drug (sp?). Makes all of the difference in the world, with how my brain works. Literally takes the edge off. When I first ventured out 'fully' garbed with naked compression sleeve/gauntlet last summer to yoga et al. I'd take a half a pill..... and instead of coming to tears at sincere questions, I let the intrigue roll off my back, with the support of my prescription.

    Seriously. What the others are saying, about having a 'stock' sentence is gold. I practised mine.... for kids during performance I say, "I have a weak arm and this is my power sleeve that makes me stronger." Over & out.

    Love ya, gal.

    He wants the best for ya, ya know he does. I know he does.

  • SoGr8fl
    SoGr8fl Member Posts: 18
    edited March 2011

    I love what Faithandfifty said about giving yourself permission to go OR not to go.  With all the meds I'm on my emotions tend to be up and down like a roller coaster so I'm trying to give myself permission to feel what I feel without self-criticism or judgement. 

     My coworkers occasionally ask about my sleeve or glove and I just say that it helps with the swelling from lymphedema.  I know most don't know what LE is but they never ask and we both move on :)

  • Nordy
    Nordy Member Posts: 2,106
    edited March 2011

    Cookie - I can't wear the silicone band at the top either... but Lymphedivas makes the one that does not have silicone... although, I guess it is still technically a band - but it doesn't cut into my arm like the silcone dotted sleeves do. But you know your arm best and you will do what is best for YOU!!! Don't forget to take care of you!

  • KittyDog
    KittyDog Member Posts: 1,079
    edited March 2011

    Juzo will also make any of their sleeves without the silicone band.

    I just straight out and tell people I had cancer and because I now have no lymph nodes I have LE.  I have only had one man ask more questions.  He was just interested and not being noisy.  I agree when most here the word cancer they hush.

  • Omaz
    Omaz Member Posts: 5,497
    edited March 2011

    Do you think you can turn the juzo with the band inside out?

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 7,799
    edited March 2011

    you could say something serious..

    I have lymphedema wraparossa..  it's catching

  • kira66715
    kira66715 Member Posts: 4,681
    edited March 2011

    I just love Faith's recommendation of giving yourself permission that any decision you make is right.

    We don't need any more stress, or shoulds--just do what feels right and give yourself permission to change your mind at will.

    Love it.

    Kira

  • Suzybelle
    Suzybelle Member Posts: 920
    edited March 2011
    I am still dying to tell one of those Nosy Nellies that it's a side effect from gonorrhea, but my mother would kill me.

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