February 2011 chemo pals

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  • charlottesmama
    charlottesmama Member Posts: 250
    edited March 2011

    BTW, you know that saying about the drapes and the carpet matching? Well, mine do now!

  • DivineMrsM
    DivineMrsM Member Posts: 9,620
    edited March 2011

    EmilyinOntario, thanks for the tip.  I read your post last night and went right to the website and placed my own order for a free turban.  They look beautiful.

  • dogeyed
    dogeyed Member Posts: 884
    edited March 2011

    ALL, sounds like we are ALL right on our chemo infusions within a day or so of each other.  How fortunate are we to be able to get info and tips and share terrors with each other at the exact same time.  Just love it and thank you all again.  Got my Chemo #3 yesterday, back in a couple hours to get shot, then ready for Day 3 and 4, when my rough side effects keep me in the house for days.  But I'm ready! 

    RUFFALO, My vision is quite the mess before and after Chemo #3.  Very blurry, watery, squinty, thinking I need some sweet potatoes to give me back my Vitamin A for the eyes.

    CHARLOTTESMAMA, Hon, I must know, you are getting your surgery between the four ACs and your Ts, so wonder did your cancer have inflammatory presentation at all, or was it just straight invasive?  I wanted SO much to get my surgery ASAP, gave the idea another a shot to have it after the last AC and before Ts, and doc said because of inflammatory nature of my cancer and that they like to get all the chemo done at once, he didn't want to stop.  Thanks for any light you can shed.

    FUZZY, my friend, I shall be over shortly to share your lunch with you!  Ha!  Nope, I couldn't drive out of the city much less to another state, but I am tasting that shrimp right now.  Yum.  Oh, and I was a nervous wreck, too, when I got in the chemo chair yesterday (No. 7 chair is unbalanced, don't use it), but the moment I walked out of the cancer center, I didn't care how tensed up I had been, cuz I knew sure weren't nothin I could do about what was coming down the road at me now!

    MELANIE ANN, if the Ativan doesn't help too much, altho it should REALLY do the job, you can add tonic water to burp OR there is an alka selzter SANS the aspirin, strictly bicarb, triple check the label cuz NO ASPIRIN is allowed, and it will settle ye olde stomach a little.  I had to eliminate all but two of my nausea things, one is the stuff they put in the chemo, but in pill form, and the other is strictly to knock me out and keep me in the bed right on thru most of nightmares.

    See you guys on the other side!  May the Good Shepherd be with you all, little lambs.  GG

  • Braveheart
    Braveheart Member Posts: 66
    edited March 2011

    Hi everybody,

    Thank you Charlottesmama for starting this post. I started chemo on Feb 23. I'm doing dose dense, so every other week I'm getting my poison. My cocktail is 4 x AC and 4 x Taxol. I lost my hair the day after my second AC. I had radical mastectomy on January 23 and a port on march 8. I'm having 2 blood tests every other week. I've been poked so many times the nurse told me last time that she couldn't fine a vein. Any advice? She asked me if I ate, maybe I should eat more before a blood test. The port is still uncomfortable but getting better slowly. Bending over and picking up things are no fun. Chemo is another not so fun experience. In 5 days I'll be doing my 3rd AC. I can't wait for it to be over. I pray for each of my bc survivor sisters. We'll get through this.Kiss

  • crog234
    crog234 Member Posts: 801
    edited March 2011

    Welcome Braveheart....  I had my BMX on Jan 10, port put in Jan 31st and started chemo Feb 1.  I also am doing 4XA/C (Just finished this last Monday). Will be doing 4XTaxol every other week starting on March 28.  

    I have been told to drink lots of water before having blood tests.  It seems to work for me.  Hope this helpts.   

    Cindy

  • Cairycat
    Cairycat Member Posts: 9
    edited March 2011

    I second the idea of drinking plenty of water before being stuck, Braveheart.  Since you have a port, could they use the port instead of messing around trying to find a vein?  That's what they do for me, I have always had crappy veins.  They get their blood for tests from the port, put some doohickey on it, and then later they just connect up the IV for the poison.  Nice to only be stuck once.

    This is only my sixth post or so, so I hope you ladies don't mind my asking a personal question.  Have any of you had a period *after* starting chemo?  I did, a heavy one, and it's lowered my RBC and hemoglobin.  Doc said normally he'd give Procrit, but it's not good for cancer patients.  If my counts get too low, I'll have to have a transfusion.  Doesn't seem fair - going thru chemo and still having periods - at 53!  I'm too old for this baloney!

    Thinking of you ladies lots as we go through this

    best from Carolyn in Iowa, 2 days out from 3rd E/C 

  • dragonfly1
    dragonfly1 Member Posts: 766
    edited March 2011

    Cairycat Ask away...no question is too personal here! I had my period (and it was horrendous) in the third week of cycle 1 of TCH. I'm in cycle 2 now and hoping it doesn't happen again. I asked the same question and a lot of other women said that if they got their period once it didn't seem to happen again after that-hope not! With everything else going on, it's a real insult, right? My counts are still dropping and I'm sure the period didn't help any.

    Hope everyone is feeling relatively well!

  • pejkug3
    pejkug3 Member Posts: 902
    edited March 2011

    Cairycat, I'm from Burlington.  We're (almost) neighbors!

  • jenn_h
    jenn_h Member Posts: 149
    edited March 2011

    cairycat, I did have one period, wasn't too much worse than normal, but PMS symptoms seemed a little worse than usual...I haven't had another one yet though...

  • Paula66
    Paula66 Member Posts: 1,728
    edited March 2011

    Im am one of the lucky ones.  I didnt have cycle this much.  I do experence mild night sweats and hot flashes.  Nit as bad at it could be but Im ok with it. 

    I did finish my AC treatments and I'm on to the talol. I really have the fuzzies so I got go and I will check you all later.

  • Melanie_Ann
    Melanie_Ann Member Posts: 414
    edited March 2011

    I didn't get my period after I started chemo, but it may be due to the fact that I was on it when I had my first treatment. I have hot flashes all the time now. =( I can't wait for them to be over!

    And I'll share my horror story of the week. Last week I had to be stuck a total of 10 times. 5 trys to get my blood on my off chemo week (my mom) and then it took them 4 trys to access my port at chemo. They kept saying...we never miss, we never miss. I actually felt bad for them. But I also felt bad for me. I felt really bad for my mom. Next time she's using the port. I'm lucky since she is a home health nurse. I don't have to go out for labs. Oh and I'm also counting the Neulasta as one stick. So 10 needle sticks. I hate needles!

  • dogeyed
    dogeyed Member Posts: 884
    edited March 2011

    Dear Braveheart,

    Welcome to our chemo group, it is such a rlief to talk to people in the same time frame, I don't know what I'd do without these girlfriends.  To get blood, I'm 60, sometimes they have to go through my hand or between my wrist bone and hand, but the girl at my cancer center still can get it out of my left arm.  I couldn't bend over to fill the dogs' water bowls for the first few weeks after getting mine, and I only use my other arm now to do it.  Hydration is the key to feeling better all thru the whole chemo, as well as blood flowing easier.

    Others,

    Sat and Sun is suposed to be the worst, but since I stoped most of my antinausea pills, I instead immediately after Thurs Chemo #3 AC started up the water, drank club soda and nonaspirin alkaseltzer for burps, and plus we had nicer weather so no heat on, and I woke up Sat today with no nightmares, no fevers, no pain.  I suppose it will visit on me tomorrow, tho. 

    On the way home from Chemo, husband and I had to pull over in car becuz belt was slippping on radiator water to keep engine cool.  Took us three hours and a detour to go five miles becuz we had to stop so often, husband filling radiator with my chemo blue cup for water, and finished with a taxi ride after we made it to the fix-it shop.  I prayed the last leg, a proper prayer over the steering wheel (by now husband was rattled, so drove!) becuz I had to shoot out the wrong way at MacDonald's, cross four lanes of lighted traffic (which I studied the light pattern first), go under the dark and scary overpass, and can't stop becuz engine get too hot, make left at light that never changes, to get to the shop, and of course angel wings sprouted on the car and we got there in one go, the heat needle almost in the red.  Unreal.

    GG

  • sukie10
    sukie10 Member Posts: 96
    edited March 2011

    Well Hello fellow sufferers. (And I know there are a bunch of us this week) Today is my day 3. I was expecting a lot worse. I'm awake, already in better shape than last time. Hoping this is it but we'll see tomorrow. The sun is out here my doors are open and the fresh spring air is making me happy. I don't think my stomach could handle the bbq I'd really like to have today but lots more nice days coming for that.

    I'm loving the tan look I'm getting from chemo. Anyone else getting a nice glow from the treatments? As sick and tired as I feel, my colour is awesome.

    Hoping eveyone is getting through with less SE's than before. Take care. 

  • EmilyInOntario
    EmilyInOntario Member Posts: 626
    edited March 2011

    sukie...I never really considered that chemo might be improving my colour. Maybe that's why my sister keeps telling me how good my colour is? That's an interesting point.

  • EmilyInOntario
    EmilyInOntario Member Posts: 626
    edited March 2011

    FEC-D Start: Jan 28/2011 Cycle 3/6 Day 9

    Day 9 post chemo....does anyone remember when the taste buds start improving? This is my third round and I can hardly recall the first two rounds at this point. Chemo brain is getting the best of me.

  • christine47
    christine47 Member Posts: 1,454
    edited March 2011

    emilylnOntario,

    I just completed my 4th round of TAC yesterday, I have 3 weeks between each round, seems like every round the taste buds take a bit longer to come back, usually at least a week to one and half weeks.  You would think I would be loosing weight, instead I keep eating looking for something to taste good.  Also chemo brain here, I have gone to having to write down my meds post chemo to remember when I took them.  I find frequent gentle brushing of teeth and tongue, with biotene mouthwash helps with taste.  Good luck, looks like you are now over 1/2 way done.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited March 2011

    Unfortunately my color is not improving because my red cell count is going down which usually causes one to be pale.  I am the only pale person in Florida!

    On the taste bud issue I found mine improved about 48 hours before the next chemo infusion.  Sad, but true.

    On the chemo brain issue, I thought I was doing so well but realize I have misplaced one pair of expensive sunglasses in their case and my prescription reading glasses in their case.  I can locate all cheap sunglasses and $1.99 drug store reading glasses that I own.  Sigh....

  • christine47
    christine47 Member Posts: 1,454
    edited March 2011

    SpecialK,

    Short of the steriod blush, I too am pale, almost yellow at times despite makeup.  I wish I could get out in the sun.  My head is so white, and I have a short wig and have to be careful that the sideburns of the wig are correctly place so the white does not show.  Ok, enough complaining, this is one day post treatment, tomorrow I will get up with a better attitude, maybe?

    Thanks for listening Feb girls!  In a year hopefully this will all be just a bad memory.

  • jenn_h
    jenn_h Member Posts: 149
    edited March 2011

    Taste buds...whew! All I can say is I want buffalo chicken wing sauce on everything!!

  • christine47
    christine47 Member Posts: 1,454
    edited March 2011

    mexican and salsa for me, hard to get good wing sauce in the south!  I grew up near pittsburgh and remember the best wings and blue cheese dressing.  Steriods will have me posting all night.

  • JeanH
    JeanH Member Posts: 281
    edited March 2011

    Hi Fab Feb Gals,

    Last EC done on Thursday! one on to the 4 DD Taxols, Halfway there.

    More nausea immediately after this session, nurse had me take a compazine for the ride home which helped a lot. Not too bad yesterday, heavy napping but got to grocery store. Today same, needed a compazine but only after car ride to pick up DS from airport he is home for his spring break!

    Napping still extremely important.

    Ladies Sorry to say I got my period after every session, the first 2 were extremely heavy, this last not as bad. Maybe my body is finally getting the chemopause memo. I had stopped for 6 months (I am 52) and got a period just before the first session so am done with the every 2 weeks thing.

    The gaila scarves are lovely,I just have to make sure I don't tie too tight when I am in headache mode or it feels the same as the wig.

    Taste buds not too great but need to eat every few hours. I have lost weight, kind of hoping they will start off but not counting on it when the tastebeds fire up again:)

    Hope all are well.

    Jean

  • dogeyed
    dogeyed Member Posts: 884
    edited March 2011

    Sorry I keep coming on here too much and with these too-long announcements of how awful I feel.  Today is Day Four after Chemo #3, woke up at 3 a.m., terrified, crying, but no fevers or nightmares, body pain holding off, and diarrhea was more manageable.  Husband was up watching a movie, thank goodness, I am afraid of the dark.  Anyhow, I realized my heartrate was over 100, might explain waking up too early and the oppressive fear.  So, while my regular car wreck medicines include tranquilizer, I took a second one, one of the tranqs the cancer people give me, and it knocked pulse back where I'm not QUITE as afraid.  Drank a little nonaspirin alka seltzer, helped full feeling.  The chemo makes my vision wierd, where things don't look "happy" to me, and being dark outside doesn't help. 

    I guess I'm reporting all this not only as self-serving wimpering, but also in hopes if others feel like me, they'll know partly why and maybe what to do.  I did begin my morning as usual, too, ate a little breakfast, fed the dogs, coffee, and boy did that orange juice taste good.  I wasn't hungry at all yesterday, ate very little becuz I had to, and I only eat breakfast becuz it's good for me.  Taste buds, since you all mentioned it, I get a few days where nothing tastes good somewhere between chemos.  I still doubt I can make it with all the treatments I'm supposed to do.  One more big AC, then over to 12 weeks of Taxol... really wish I knew if I could do surgery before Taxol, but doc says keep going, I guess inflammatory part of my diagnosis means tons of chemo first, then surgery, gives best results.  But I swear, doc said he would switch to surgery if absolutely had to, and I don't want to spoil full recovery, but would SO like to end this.  I wonder how Taxol for 12 weeks will be.  I'm afraid I'll die in the middle of all this...poison.  GG  

  • sukie10
    sukie10 Member Posts: 96
    edited March 2011

    GG you can come here every five minutes and vent if you want! We all know this really sucks. I'm afraid I haven't started the Taxol myself yet but I have a friend that assures me it's SEs are more bearable than with the AC. I'm counting on it. I wish I could just reach out and give you a big hug. We are going to get through this, all of us. Nobody on this board is going to be left behind. Day 3 and 4 seem to be the worst for most of us, some a little longer. Hang in there sweetie your almost there.

  • dogeyed
    dogeyed Member Posts: 884
    edited March 2011

    Thank you so much Sukie, reading your message brought tears to my eyes, thanks for the hug. GG

  • Dogbiskit
    Dogbiskit Member Posts: 23
    edited March 2011

    Hi dogeyed, days 4-6 are the worst for me too. I can barely walk upright I'm like the hunchback of notre dame! And the soul destroying headaches ugh! But now I'm 10 days out and it's like chemo? What chemo?! Hope you get relief soon. My GI Jane is falling out rapidly but not rapidly enough! I wish it would just ALL fall out already because it's in the prickly phase and it just hurts to touch, takes forever to find a comfortable sleeping position, bits everywhere ugh! Yesterday I was so desperate I took a lint brush to the head! But I stopped after it started hurting the scalp. I want to start wearing the wig but I'm afraid because if my soft cashmere cap hurts to put on and take off, how the heck is the wig going to feel? Grrrrr arrrrgh

  • safari94
    safari94 Member Posts: 19
    edited March 2011

    Hello ladies!

    Hope everyone was able to enjoy the SUPER moon! I haven't been on in a while but trying to catch up and just want to check in! So sorry to hear all that are having miserable experiences! My thoughts and prayers are with you!  I know that we are all different and on varying treatments but I just wanted to give some hope to those that may be similar to me....

    I just completed round 3 of TC x 4!! I am 3 days out and feeling pretty good - just exhausted! Side effects of Taxotere have not been so bad (being the stronger of the 2 TC).  I do lose my taste buds each round but just for a week - while appetite has done pretty well! I can bare water now as the first round or 2 was terrible with the metal taste, not so bad this round.  No diarrhea or constipation so haven't taken anything. Like I said, exhaustion has been the worst and I'll take it! Just trying to not overdo it and drink TONS!! They say SEs can get worse but honestly, the only difference from round 1 to 3 for me was this past week I experienced painful acid reflux!! I am 37 and never felt anything like this before! My Onc said that the Taxotere does a job on your stomach so.... it was really just the day of treatment and the next day and I dosed up on Pepsid Completes which she advised that I continue to take 2 a day until treatment is done.

    Overall, after each treatment (minus the first that I was hospitalized for appendicitis unexpectedly), I have fared pretty well and any SEs last just 6-7 days and I am back to 'normal'!  What else is positive?? Oh, my hair stopped falling out! I did have it shaved on day 23 as most of it was gone.  I surprisingly have a lot of stubble but certainly not enough to pass off long! And.... I have peach fuzz growing?? It started shortly after my second treatment so who knows?? OH - Dogbiskit, mine only hurt for about a week and only a day or so after I shaved it - it gets much better trust me! The sensitivity at least! I would just try to get it all out in the shower while rubbing with shampoo - feels much better! My eyebrows are hanging on but for dear life! I just don't mess with them! Eyelashes still in tact like new and hey - haven't shaved (anywhere) in over a month! How festive is that!! lol  Fingernail beds began to hurt really bad after treatment #2 and that is when my Onc suggested I ice them during treatment! Fine timing to tell me!! One day they just felt like they were all pushing up and going to pop off! Well, it went away and they feel and look normal and fingers are crossed! I did ice them during my last treatment just in case.  I just filled a baggie with ice and water and kept them pressed against it.

    Well, just trying to give you all some hope and let you know I am thinking of you all and we WILL get through this! I regret that some of you are having a more difficult time and know that I am here to vent! Just shoot me an email! I am also here to answer any questions for those taking TC!! I was so desperate to find someone on my similar regime when I first joined and couldn't find anyone.  Hope this may help even just one of you! That is what we are here for ladies!

    God bless you all! Many hugs from sunny West Palm Beach!

    Mary

  • Melanie_Ann
    Melanie_Ann Member Posts: 414
    edited March 2011

    Morning ladies! Well I guess it's the afternoon now. Just wanted to stop and say hey! My taste buds are shot to bits this time. I'm even refusing food..which normally doesn't happen. And my sense of smell seems to be hightened. I was so much more nauseated this time, and I still slightly am today but it's so much better that it's hard for me to be down.

    I must have a good color too because people keep saying I look really good. My eyebrows and eyelashes are hanging on too, although I think they're thinning a little.

    And yes..Taxotere causes severe heartburn for me. And it's 6 days out for me and I realized I haven't used the bathroom since treatment day. Yikes! I have some serious work ahead of me today. =) I'm going to start with an apple and polish it off with a senokot and colace. And plenty of water. Hope everyone feels better today.

    Melanie

  • EmilyInOntario
    EmilyInOntario Member Posts: 626
    edited March 2011

    FEC-D Start: Jan 28 2011 Cycle 3/6 Day 10

    With each round of chemo I get " a little something extra" to have to deal with. First round was tooth pain and infection and had to have the tooth pulled 2 days before chemo 2 ( I was NOT going to deal with a root canal at that point) Chemo round 2 was the strange rash under my breasts which thankfully cleared up with hydrocortisone cream just in time for Chemo round 3. Now we're on to the strange patch of pale pink redness on my thigh which is painful but doesn't appear swollen. Sore to touch and MAY have the start of something raising in the centre which I am wondering..could this possibly be shingles? Has anyone had anything like this?

  • JeanH
    JeanH Member Posts: 281
    edited March 2011

    Emily,

    I would check the redness out with your onc to make sure you are not having a reaction to Chemo. There are signs all over check in area at my cancer center to notify them if you have a rash.



    DO you use Nualasta- is it near an injection site?



    HOpe all is well

    Jean

  • Braveheart
    Braveheart Member Posts: 66
    edited March 2011

    Hi girls,

    I finished cycle 2 of AC. I'm doing dose dense and in a couple days is AC no 3. Since yesterday I am losing my voice. Did this happen to anyone else?

    I wish you all brave ladies an easier time through chemo! My prayers and good wishes are with you.

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