Bottle 'o Tamoxifen

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  • tinkertude
    tinkertude Member Posts: 2,047
    edited March 2011

    oh wow so thats a double whammy!

    hmmmmm I dont know... maybeeeeeee Italian , or mexican... or whatever looks good as your looking through the pantry!

    your the best!Wink

    oh yeah I had to explain the new Tink pic to someone on one of the other threads wanted to know if I was REALLY spoiled lol... I said its all in good fun!!!!

  • jo1955
    jo1955 Member Posts: 8,543
    edited March 2011

    Tink - You are an incredibly good sport about the picture.  Maybe you should invite the ladies from the thread you had to do the explaining to, to join us even if they are not on Tamox.  I always say, the more the merrier.

  • tinkertude
    tinkertude Member Posts: 2,047
    edited March 2011

    Jo I agree the more the merrier, actually one is on this thread already.or maybe even 2.. oye must be getting late for me lol  Undecided..its is such a wonderful thread !

    Good night my freind!

  • jo1955
    jo1955 Member Posts: 8,543
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  • JustmeAlicia
    JustmeAlicia Member Posts: 1,529
    edited March 2011

    Good morning girls !  I hope everyone had a restful sleep ~

    Rainy day here and I have my son home sick from school.  Think we will be doing some pay per view on the couch later.

    :) 

  • jo1955
    jo1955 Member Posts: 8,543
    edited March 2011

    Alicia - Can I join you?  I don't want to go to work today.  LOL

  • Paula66
    Paula66 Member Posts: 1,728
    edited March 2011

    Morning ladies!!!!  I dont wanna go to work either.  Oh why cant I fake sick and call in.  Grrrrr.  Why oh why cant I be like some of my fellow coworkers and do that.  Ok well its of to work I go then.  Atleast its Friday!

  • jo1955
    jo1955 Member Posts: 8,543
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  • Ca1Ripken
    Ca1Ripken Member Posts: 1,254
    edited March 2011

    Jo1955... LOL, my RO did not order my mammo, she is just defensive because they are all on my tumor team... you know how the docs like to team up on us.... she has absolutely nothing to do with my testing schedule but she asked if I had any concerns.  She also thinks that I will see her every 6 months and my MO every 6 months for a total of seeing someone every 3 months... no, I won't because she too is a personality-less jerk who doesn't even do a physical exam on me, so what is the damn point.  I'm in a quandry what to do right now to get my blood levels checked... anyone know?  Should I go searching for a GP that will do it?  My MO will not check any blood levels. 

  • jo1955
    jo1955 Member Posts: 8,543
    edited March 2011
    Leanna9 - From what you are saying, there is no need to see your RO anymore.  Mine is suxh a moron, I hope he burns in hell.  I would find a GP to do the blood tests if your MO won't do it.  That sound ridiculous - if the MO is prescribing the meds he/she should do the labs.
  • Ca1Ripken
    Ca1Ripken Member Posts: 1,254
    edited March 2011

    Jo - I agree... and my RO must be related to yours... I don't see a need to see her either!  She is heartless...

  • JustmeAlicia
    JustmeAlicia Member Posts: 1,529
    edited March 2011

    Plenty of room on the couches for those that want to flop TODAY !  

    You girls with bad drs that just sucks.  Leanna I would find a different MO.  While the blood work/tumor markers are not foolproof at least it is a tool to look for recurrance.  

  • Ca1Ripken
    Ca1Ripken Member Posts: 1,254
    edited March 2011

    Alicia - I have been thinking long and hard of finding a new MO!!!! 

  • Sherryc
    Sherryc Member Posts: 5,938
    edited March 2011

    Leanna I cant' believe after chemo rads and tamox that no one does bloodwork on you.  I think I would def find someone that would maybe a new MO.

    Linda-My tumor was not found on my mammo as well had them yearly for 14 years.  It took the MRi to catch it.  So my MO says I have complicated breast and need mammo and MRi yearly alternating every 6 months.  I am scheduled for a follow up (from rads) mammo in April and I really feel like whats the point.  But I will go along with it.

    Several have made comments about their MO's.  I started out with one that would not give me info just answers.  I like to know why you are making this decision.  He also did not do breast exams on me.  So after several months of frustration I starting asking around and found the name of another MO that several people I knew liked very much and used.  I switch and I am so thankful that I did.  He spends lots of time with me.  My first visit he spendt 1 1/2 hours explaining everything to me.  Yesterday I took my Dad for the first time and he spent almost 2 hours with us it was 6pm when we got out of there.

    So to all my tammi sisters.  Yesterday with my Dad was not a good day at all.  Some of the info we already knew.  But he has an aggressive lung cancer with mets to the ribs, so stage IV.  It is not curable only treatable to try to slow it down. While we were there he got the RO on the phone and the agreed treatment is rads for three weeks for pain control then chemo, weekly for 6 months with eval every two months to see how he is responding.  It will be a chemo designed for 70+ with health issues which he has many.  The side effects are not suppose to be as bad.  Also Zometa infusion once a month.  They gave us a year and said if he responds well to treatment we can expect a few more months. My Dad is very hard of hearing and when the Dr told us he had a year my mom starting crying and my Dad did not hear it.  I looked at him and could tell so I stopped the Dr. and asked did you hear what he said and my Dad said no so I got up walked over to him and had to tell him he only has a year to live.  How crappy is that to have to do.  By that time I was crying as well.  I guess the good part is that I am really really thankful that I switched MO's last month because I can not even imaging having to have had yesterday's visit with the other guy. We asked my Dad on the way home if he wanted a 2nd opinion and he said no he liked the Dr.  my mom also said she liked him and they both feel comfortable with him.  After hearing that the side effects will not be as bad and knowing that he can quit chemo any time my Dad decided that he would do the chemo.  I'm glad he did but he just does not seem to have much fight in him.  I HATE CANCER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and no wonder I am having anger about this disease it just won't leave me alone.  Another thing that impressed me with the MO is I have only met with him once.  When he walked in the room he recognized me.  When everything was over and we were leaving he pulled me off to the side and wanted to know if I was taking my tamox and I told him yes, and he wanted to know how my SE's were going because he remembered I was having trouble with them.  I told him I was much better, he said good and I'll see you in a couple of weeks (which is when my next appt is). He is a very busy man so that was more confirmation that I made the right move with MO's. 

    Thank you all for being here for me, I really don't know what I would do without all your support.  You all really get cancer and what it is all about.

  • Ca1Ripken
    Ca1Ripken Member Posts: 1,254
    edited March 2011

    Sherry - your MO sounds awesome.  I am so sorry about your Dad... it sounds a lot like my Dad when he was diagnosed... also Stage IV lung cancer.  I would say being 70+ (my dad was also) to get a port from the beginning... my Dad lost feeling in one of his arms from chemo infiltraing his veins. 

    My MO does blood work... just not tumor markers.  Is that what you meant?

  • dogsandjogs
    dogsandjogs Member Posts: 1,907
    edited March 2011

    After I had a mastectomy and an  implant 28 years ago, I never had a mammogram on that side. The surgeon said it wasn't necessary as there was no breast tissue left. I had a lumpectomy in Feb on the other breast and one of the procedures they did was an MRI. They told me I had a small tear in the implant, but that it was deep inside the implant and there was no leakage. I wonder if I should check with a plastic surgeon to make sure. My breast surgeon didn't seem concerned either though and right now I'm nervous about upcoming radiation. One thing at a time!  Will I quality for a yearly MRI now since I got a recurrance?

  • Ca1Ripken
    Ca1Ripken Member Posts: 1,254
    edited March 2011

    I don't know... I think it depends on your doctor, but maybe they'll need to keep an eye on the implant.  ??

  • JustmeAlicia
    JustmeAlicia Member Posts: 1,529
    edited March 2011

    Sherry ((((HUGS)))))  you surely had a day from hell.  I am so sorry that your dad's life will be cut short by this deadly disease.  Thinking of you...  Glad that you had a good visit with your MO.

    SR ~ so sorry you are dealing with a recurrance.  Is this 28 years from the first diagnosis?  Good luck with radiation I hope it goes smoothly for you.

  • Sherryc
    Sherryc Member Posts: 5,938
    edited March 2011

    SR-I think I would see a PS before rads start just to make sure. As far as MRI I think it just depends on the Dr., but if it makes you more comfortable do not hesitate to talk to them about it.

    Leanna-thanks and yes my MO does tumor makers every three months long with all the other bloodwork.  From what I understand they look at the tumor markers, he checks my vitamin D level and also I learned that if you have high calcium in your blood that is questionable for bone mets, makes then start looking closer. Learned that yesterday.

    Alicia-thanks felt the hugs

  • surfette
    surfette Member Posts: 232
    edited March 2011

    Hi all forgive me for asking this question if I've already asked it before, I seem to remember have.

    Is anyone here that is on Tamox also on thyroid meds? And if so did you have to have your meds adjusted upward? My endo just called to say my thyroid is way low and I think I may have heard that there is a connection in that the Tamox messes with the thyroid. So this explains why I've gained 10 pounds since January I guess!

  • June2268
    June2268 Member Posts: 1,202
    edited March 2011

    Sherry OMG my heart goes out to you and your family.  I cannot even imagine having to go through what you are going through.  You are a very strong woman and your parents are lucky to have you.  How is your mom with all this?  I am loving that you switched MO, what a smart move that was.  I am thinking of switching as well.  I need to see how my appointment goes at the end of the month.  Sherry please know we are all here for any time day or night.....Cancer all forms of it, totally SUCK!!!!

  • June2268
    June2268 Member Posts: 1,202
    edited March 2011

    Surfette I think Harley is on meds for her thyroid but I believe she was on before her BC.  I too have put on weight and I am always tired.  I am close to ending a year on Tamox (April 29th 1st pill taken) I have my appointment end of March and I intend on asking him to test me.....I think for me things started happening on month 8.

  • Exodus
    Exodus Member Posts: 93
    edited March 2011

    Surfette, yes I am on Tamoxifen and Levothyroxin.  My TSH levels were elevated and one of my many dr's had to increase the dosage twice before it finally dropped into an acceptable range.

    Sherry - So sorry for having to deal with your Dad having stage IV lung cancer and you being the primary care support.  I can truly empathize.  My dad was a few years older, he thought he was having a heart attack and had one of my brothers take him to the ER.  The chest X-ray revealed the mass and one or two ribs were missing!  He was not a candidate for chemo and he would not have done well on it.  His tx was simply pain management.

    We spoiled him rotten.  He even called me at home one Saturday wanting my DH and I to bring him some BBQ from Bill's.  The really funny thing about that is that I live 80 miles away and both of my brothers are much closer.  In fact, one brother lived next door!  DH and I hopped on the motorcycle, stopped at Bill's BBQ and took Dad his lunch.

    Thankfully, my brother just older than me was Dad's primary.  I did take Dad to a couple of his appointments. 

    Dad died Friday March 14, 2008.  The house he and Mom built and shared burned to the ground Monday, March 17, 2008.  We had Dad's funeral to arrange while cleaning up from a devastating fire.

    Fortunately, my dx wasn't until November, 2009.  I do get my warped sense of humor from Dad.  He had some medical issue when he was 79.  When I called to find out how the appointment went his comment was, "End of the line at 79."  He was kidding.

    Sherry, if you need to talk or vent, just let me know.  It can be so overwhelming.  Don't let guilt for feeling tired or sad bring you down.  You are only human and you will do the best that you can.

  • JanetinVirginia
    JanetinVirginia Member Posts: 1,516
    edited March 2011

    When my onc runs blood work it's about a 3-page printout of results!  CBC with Auto Diff, Comprehensive Metabolic Panel, and 25 Hydroxy D and some more blood chemistry but I don't know the names.  Generally I think they look for anything that is out of the normal reference range.  I do not think there are tumor marker tests on it.  (Seems like everything else -- some oncs use tumor markers; some don't.)  My GP runs all the cholesterol tests at annual physical.

  • surfette
    surfette Member Posts: 232
    edited March 2011

    Sherry, I'm very sorry about your Dad. I lost my Mom to lung cancer almost 4 years ago.

  • June2268
    June2268 Member Posts: 1,202
    edited March 2011
    • Exodus- I cannot believe you had to endure all that as well  How did your parents house burn down?  2 major disasters within days.....It seems like your father tried to stay as positive as he could.  I hope I can remain so strong as well as my father was diagnosed about 5 months back with Idiopathic Pulmonary Fibrosis and is only expected to survive under 2 years....he has gone down hill so fast and he has lost his spirit and it just breaks my heart.  He was on meds to control his heart which had caused the permanent damage.  He has only 26% lung capacity left and is on permanent 24 hours a day of oxygen and prednisone and he still cannot walk 10 feet without being so exhausted..... and he was one man that never slowed down was always so active and healthy so we thought and then to get hit with this.....so sad!
  • GirlFriday
    GirlFriday Member Posts: 461
    edited March 2011

    Exodus/Sherry/Surfette(and anyone else I may have missed):  My heart goes out to you and all that you have faced and are facing. 

    As for blood work, I haven't had one vial drawn from me since this process began.  I think it's odd, but I guess I have to wait for my May appt with the MO that I don't like.  I'm going to ask her first thing if she's read my chart, and if she hasn't I'll give her time.  I know that sets the tone of the appt, but WE, I've taken one hit from her already, I'm not taken a second.  I'm hoping to have blood drawn the 25th...I feel like here is something going on with estrogen in my body with issues in all of my girl parts.  If the resident and her advisor, can't make that leap, and try to tell me that the issues are un-related, I'll find someone who will deal with my ideas about my body.  Prove me wrong and I can accept it. Ignore me, and you'll just make me angry. 

  • surfette
    surfette Member Posts: 232
    edited March 2011

    I haven't had a vial of blood drawn either since my diagnosis in September. I'd like to know if the tamoxifen is working, I'd think there would be something to measure levels or whatnot. I'd hate the think that the liquid iron I take every night right before the tamox is cancelling it out and one would think a blood test would tell you if it is being absorbed properly?

  • Exodus
    Exodus Member Posts: 93
    edited March 2011

    June - I am so sorry you are witnessing your dad's declining health.  For many of us, our dad's were our heroes growing up.  They were strong and invincible in our young minds. 

    We knew Dad's time was very limited so we (my two brothers and sister) did all we could to cater to his every wish.  Mom was in a state of shock and depended on us to make all the decisions.  Believe it or not, we found humor, we joked and we worked shoulder to shoulder.  We tried to honor Dad by celebrating his life and his accomplishments.  He had even said at some point in his life that funerals should be a time of celebration, not tears.  We were honored to know him and to call him Dad. 

    It also helps that is has been almost three years.  I still miss him even with some of his difficult ways but remembering him is no longer painful.

    To everyone who is dealing with an ailing parent or relative, my heart goes out to you.  Eventually, it will get better. 

    Gotta run ladies.  Have a great weekend.

  • Sherryc
    Sherryc Member Posts: 5,938
    edited March 2011

    June so sorry about your Dad as well.  I have watched my Dad's health decline over the last several years and to see how active he was when he was younger and enjoyed life so much it makes me sad.  It is so hard to watch our parents age.

    Exodus so glad you guys were able to celebrate your Dad's life what a blessing.  So sorry about the fire what awful timing that was and devistating for your mom.

    Think I will drink a glass of wine tonight and toast to all of us tammi girls that have had or are dealing with aging parents.  Here's to US!!!  I think my attitude is getting better.  You girls rock.

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