Bottle 'o Tamoxifen

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  • Sherryc
    Sherryc Member Posts: 5,938
    edited March 2011

    Jo that is such a good question because I feel the same as you and am just a little behind you.  Would love to hear what others have to say.  With all my Dr appts it seems to just still be with me.  I see my MO on the 24th and hopefully he will put me to every three months.  I am on monthly until my SE from tamox are under control and they are much better except for the sleeping. urgh

  • JanetinVirginia
    JanetinVirginia Member Posts: 1,516
    edited March 2011

    Jo - I hear you.  That's the worst part about the whole BC trip!!  I just keep hoping there will be some kind of breakthrough test where they can tell if we're "home free" or not - and of course a CURE if we're not.  Otherwise, we're all just going to worry ourselves to death - whether there is anything to worry about or not! 

  • Exodus
    Exodus Member Posts: 93
    edited March 2011

    Good afternoon ladies. 

    Leanna, I've been on Tamoxifen for just over a year.  I did not take chemo.  My last period was in September until March 6.  Your gyn can run a blood test to check your FSH levels.  Also, your FSH levels can fluctuate where you go in and out of menopause.

    Jo, for me I still think about cancer and the outside chance of recurrence.  I don't take my health for granted and I try to live each day to the fullest.  My priorities have shifted.  I'm not quite so content to watch the world go by.  I want to experience life which means putting myself in situations where I may fail but at least I tried.

    I don't want to be the person I was before cancer dx but I do not live in fear. 

  • JustmeAlicia
    JustmeAlicia Member Posts: 1,529
    edited March 2011

    Jo ~ good questions and I think Exodus has said it wonderfully.  I always have it in my mind, I do worry about recurrance ~ but for the most part live LIFE to the fullest.  Cancer has changed me and I believe for the better.  I have my 6 month tests all scheduled for May ~ nothing is going to ruin my cruise.  I will be worrying sick come May but hope to hear see you in 6 months your good !  I try to tell myself worrying will do me no good, whatever god has in store for me is out of my hands. 

    Shellfish ~ yummy !  With warm butter and lemon. 

    :)

  • jo1955
    jo1955 Member Posts: 8,543
    edited March 2011

    Sherry - I have to see my BS tomorrow for the continuing breast pain.  It is getting less and less on it's own but is still there.  I am not really sure there is anything he can do at this point.  I have had so many tests done and nothing shows up.  I am sick of going for tests.  I am hoping this will be my last BS appt.  I know I can always call him if there is a problem.  After that I am done until my mammo on June 3rd.  I will have the cruise in between and maybe just getting away from here will help alot.  I don't have to think or talk about BC.  

    Janet - A breakthrough and/or a cure would be wonderful.  I have this little varmit sitting on one of "gray matter" that says you will never forget and I am not going away.  Well, I am going to one day kick his butt just like I did BC - LOL!

    Thanks to you all - I have said it many times before, I could not have come this far without your support and love. 

  • chabba
    chabba Member Posts: 5,065
    edited March 2011

    I'm not quite 10 months out from diagnosis.  For me the first 5 months were a whirlwind of treatments with little time to worry.  And I was always so tired that anytime I had time to think I fell asleep.  now I just take a pill a day, feel pretty good and have time to think and worry.  And worry.  For five month I kept the fear submerged, Now it swims around and around me and splashes me in the face every time I manage to forget its presence...

  • tinkertude
    tinkertude Member Posts: 2,047
    edited March 2011

    JO... Great question,, the only active treatment I have is the Tamoxifen. My onc has siad no scans tests or anything its all sympyomatic from here on out and we know what that means, by the time we have symptoms somewhere else in our body its not usually good. I also have no breast tissue left in either breast so no mammo either its all self check, as if anything was to reoccur in the breast it would be close to the surface. There isnt a day that goes by that the thought doesnt pop into my mind BUT I just pray  and pray and say I am doing everything I can to prevent a reoccurance so it is out of my hands.. and have tried to  live my life better than before. I made a promise to myslef that I would come out of this better than when I went in on so many levels, emotionall, spirtually and physically, but as you know as we all know that is a challenge.

    Exodus said it well I dont want life to pass me by.. a different approach.. The fact is we are all changed in some way or another.. The unkown is the scariest of I now believe that saying " ignorance is bliss" a year ago today I was ignorant didnt think it could happen to me too young etc.... well on the 22nd of this month the journey began,,,

    I understand I dont blame you about the doc appts.. its so overwhelming.. I think part of my stress this month i sknowing I go back to the PS on the 24th had a nice 3 month break from alll of them,,, back to him another surgery here we go again.. I anxious because I will have to come off the Tam just when I have accepted and adjusting to it and start all over again... so it never ends.. lol

    Enjoy your cruise you deserve it too!!

    I have said before cancer is tough but we are tougher ladies!!!

    wow did I go on and on and on!!!  sorry so long :)

    hugs to you all!!!!

  • tinkertude
    tinkertude Member Posts: 2,047
    edited March 2011

    ALICIA... Awesome about your cruise too... enjoy enjoy enjoy!!!!!  pics on fb dont forget :)

  • Exodus
    Exodus Member Posts: 93
    edited March 2011

    Off subject but humerous.  In December, 2009, I had a bmx.  The surgeon told me the number one complaint he had from patients was the loss of feeling/sensation.  It was a small price to pay.  Now to the funny part.  Numerous times I stood in the shower and actually looked down to make sure I had remembered to remove my bra!  I can't even tell if the water is hot or cold on my chest.  Chuckle, it is funny.

    Jo and Alicia have a wonderful vacation.

  • tinkertude
    tinkertude Member Posts: 2,047
    edited March 2011
    lol!!! that is funny! Wink
  • Sandeeonherown
    Sandeeonherown Member Posts: 1,946
    edited March 2011

    Exodus...funny in a warped kind of way but I get it!

    Jo...I have realized that despite my thinkin gI amnot thinking about BC recurrence etc...I am actually thinking about it ALL the time...I feel like my life is on old for 'after the june appointment' when I will know if it is in the other breast or I am in the clear....A lot riding on that mamogram....leave this city and move somewhere else and start again...or stay and downsize my job..just do teacher training and then go overseas and do it a few months a year..figure if I am 'alone' might as well do it where I was going to do it as a couple ...I feel like I am still stuck in my break up from my long term relationship and am not really focused on cancer per se....perhaps it is too scary...then again...we have lived through it...I have done more in the last 4 months than I have in ages...I am living every moment, appreciating the students and teachers I work with, taking advantage of e very musical moment that comes into my city....living life as full and as loudly (hear that Chevy!) as I can....but yeah....it is on my mind....constantly...from when I have to choose which bra to wear (ie. are the breasts tender today? aching ? or ready for the underwire?), to when I try and gauge my fatigue level to wondering where in the hell my energy went ....it is in my head....wish it weren't....but there you go.

  • tinkertude
    tinkertude Member Posts: 2,047
    edited March 2011

    ok sorry though I was done but had something else I wanted to add.. imagine lol

    For others around us that have not goe through this I have found that since I am "only" on Tamoxifen and everyone says " well you look great".. that its "over" for me, when in reality this is the hardest part. A family member said over the weekend and very well meaning I know, well I know you are having all these issues with the med but al least your blood work was good so be happy..and at another time said, well dont worry they have made stride in bc youll be fine ... . I realize they just dont get it, not their fault I didnt get it either  but this IS the hard part as far as I am concerned and it is from from being " done" or over with...

    Thanks again for listening ladies...

  • Sandeeonherown
    Sandeeonherown Member Posts: 1,946
    edited March 2011

    Tink...I hear you and I get you....like you, I am 'only' on tamoxifen...people think my treatment is over and I respond...nope..that is why I wake up having medical induced hot flashes in the middle of the night...and I can count on this fo rthe next 5 years.....I had sworn I would not become my parents..reliant on medications to control my health...and here I am...a feeling sorry for sandee moment I think....while I am grateful that it is increasing my chances of no recurrence,,,,,I am also resentful....but trying to be more positive than anything....geeez

  • jo1955
    jo1955 Member Posts: 8,543
    edited March 2011

    We will never be over this.  My life is on hold too until that first mammo in June and the unknown is the scariest part.  That is one of my biggest fears.  Okay!  I have to dash out of here in a few minutes so I don't have much time.

    Tink, June and all the Tammi Ladies - Here is your dinner.

                                 

  • EastCoastGrl
    EastCoastGrl Member Posts: 282
    edited March 2011

    I get you too Tink! Definitely. :)

    ".......the only active treatment I have is the Tamoxifen. My onc has siad no scans tests or anything its all sympyomatic from here on out and we know what that means, by the time we have symptoms somewhere else in our body its not usually good. I also have no breast tissue left in either breast so no mammo either its all self check, as if anything was to reoccur in the breast it would be close to the surface."  ----- this is the same exact for me. Which I kinda wondered about myself.

    I am still newly dx really but I sorta feel the same as chabba. Whirlwind for 5 months and now I'm starting to think more about it. Don't think it will ever really leave. How could it? Looming over us. But just have to do what we have to do! :)

    Exodus....LOL at the bra/shower....yes, unfortunatley I totally know what you mean. I was kinda squishing my new foobs around, looking in the mirror and my hubby walked by and said, hey, maybe you shouldn't be doing that because you can't really feel them....might be doing something that would be hurting and you don't know! Ha, so true.

  • EastCoastGrl
    EastCoastGrl Member Posts: 282
    edited March 2011

    oh my, you outdid yourself Jo!! YUMMMMMMMMMMMMM

    Hope you have a great time tonight! I'm going stir crazyyyyyyyyyyy ;)

  • Sandeeonherown
    Sandeeonherown Member Posts: 1,946
    edited March 2011

    Lobster...your  east coast roots are showing Jo!

  • tinkertude
    tinkertude Member Posts: 2,047
    edited March 2011

    JO That just looks crazy good!!!! lets dig in ladies, hope you can join us later Jo! hugs!!!!!

  • JanetinVirginia
    JanetinVirginia Member Posts: 1,516
    edited March 2011

    This train's dining car should be featured on Food Network! :)    Maybe Bobby Flay will challenge Jo to a throwdown!

  • tinkertude
    tinkertude Member Posts: 2,047
    edited March 2011

    lol...my votes on Jo!

  • Exodus
    Exodus Member Posts: 93
    edited March 2011

    Jo certainly wins hands down for presentation.

  • June2268
    June2268 Member Posts: 1,202
    edited March 2011

    Ditto for JO-   Damn that Lobster looks scrumptious.......

    Exodus- too funny not to share....

    JO- I think it all the time and wonder if there is ever going to be a day where I don't think it.  I still have not gotten a clean report and I am constantly waiting for the other shoe to drop.  Everyday I change and put on my bra and have to look at myself in the mirror.  The intimacy between me and my husband.  Wearing a bathing suit.  Paying the bills that are still trickling in.  Calling in my prescription.  Picking the damn thing up....I mean really the list goes on and it is so sad as it has been 1 year and 3 months for me and I still think about it....I thought it would lessen and I am still considered safe as most of you women are at least a stage 1 or beyond. 

    ECG- Nothing like getting busted feeling yourself up and then to be told that you really cant feel anything either......you ladies are all so funny tonight.....  How did VS go tonight?

    Sandeeonherown- so well said.  I am too resentful but try to remain positive.....There is nothing good about BC.....

    Chabba I wonder if it will ever get easier for us.....my 1st year I saw more people than I care to remember....and let me tell you all that I am still paying for all those consults and co payments and I am taking my time with it as well......

    Tink Tink my friend how are you today???  I was so thinking of you last night as I was wondering if your PMS was gone as I was such the Bitch last night that I actually had to take off from home and just escape from it all......today was the day and NOTHING.......I really hate not knowing when and where I might get it again.......ARGH!!!!  Other than that, I am so in a good mood tonight.....yippee....miss you!

    Hi Sherry, Alcia, Chevyboy and to anyone else I might have forgotten......luv to you all!

  • tinkertude
    tinkertude Member Posts: 2,047
    edited March 2011

    JUNE..I just dont know still no show... ugh... I am beginning to think I am gonna skip... but its wierd because I so feel like its here ... glad you were able to get away for a bit and are feeling better sometimes I think we need to run away... even if it is just for a short time... to regroup catch our breath, somedays are like that...

    miss you too.....posted on your wall on fb :)

  • Sherryc
    Sherryc Member Posts: 5,938
    edited March 2011

    Exodus that was really funny! LOL

    Jo love the lobster will meet you in the dinning car.

    Tink I so know what you mean.  I spoke to a friends sister today and she asked me how I was feeling and I told her, she wanted to know if I was through with rads and I said yes and she then said well thank goodness that is all over with now.  I thought to myself as many others on here have it will never be over and my tamox still gives me SE's. so that is my soap box for tonight.

  • jo1955
    jo1955 Member Posts: 8,543
    edited March 2011

    Boy!  I'm gone a few hours and you ladies are moving at a fast pace.  

    So glad everyone enjoyed the dinner and thanks for all the votes.  

    Sandee - I hate to tell you but I am not from the east coast - I am from the west coast - Southern California.

    EastCoastGrl - I went through 5 monhs of whirlwind appts and it just now seems the dust is settling down.  I have a few more and then nothing for 2 months when I have the dreaded first mammo.

    June - I have been playing the same record as you.  All the bills, scripts, wanting that clean report, etc.  I have to tell you, we have two mirrors in our bathroom and I refuse to get dressed in front of either one of them.  Still can't get myself to do that.  I stll have a bit of anger issues over this whole mess.  Time will heal that wound.

    Well, I had a busy day at work, had to cook dinner for you wonderful ladies, ran out to a dinner meeting and now I am exhausted.  I am heading to bed

    Good Night Tammy Girls 

  • JustmeAlicia
    JustmeAlicia Member Posts: 1,529
    edited March 2011

    Tink ~ EastCoastGirl, SAME here with the no breast tissue=no mammo.  I was told same thing recurrance would be right under the skin and almost feel like a BB.  I get felt up by the oncologist, breast surgeon, plastic surgeon every few months.  I try not to touch them as I fear feeling something.  Anyone find there foobs get COLD? 

    Jo ~ thank you for the "delicious" lobster ~ yummy !!!!  I am like you I don't like looking in the mirror either.  Maybe once I get nips on my blank globes it will help.  I miss my real boobies but they were trying to kill me and had to go ! 

    Hope everyone got some sleep last night and has a wonderful day !

    :)

    Alicia

  • surfette
    surfette Member Posts: 232
    edited March 2011

    OK I have a question about this recurrence thing when you have no breast tissue. When you say its under the skin, do you mean that it could not occur under the implant? Because I am thinking that if I ever get a recurrence, I am going with the full out double mas but I am wondering how they can check for recurrence under the implants?

  • jo1955
    jo1955 Member Posts: 8,543
    edited March 2011

    Whether we  have foobs or not it is a game of russian roulette. It will keep us on our toes for the rest of our lives.  Doesn't seem fair and we have no control over the rules.  

    Alicia - Everything happened so fast with me, I really did not have time to think things through.  When the surgeon told me masectomy was an option the word scared the living h*ll out of me, at the time more so than having cancer.  I don't regret my decision but you know?  The question mark remains.

    Have a Great Day Everyone. 

  • JustmeAlicia
    JustmeAlicia Member Posts: 1,529
    edited March 2011

    Surfette ~ hmmm interesting to hear anyone's input on that one.  I have had several chest x-rays but I think that is looking in my lungs.  I think an mri is the only way to look under the implant.  Being I have silicone implants I believe they will be scheduling some of those for me every year or so to check for a ruptured implant.

    Jo ~ so you still have your breasts?  Yes, it is truly out of our hands.  In my mind, I needed them gone.  My mother in law had a single mastectomy after it came back a second time - she is 20 years out from her first diagnosis, and my sister in law was a Stage 2 with 2 lumps and had just a lumpectomy (followed by chemo/rads)  She is on year 7 doing well.  So who knows.

  • Sherryc
    Sherryc Member Posts: 5,938
    edited March 2011

    Jo I so understand the anger thing. I seem to just be angry that I got bc, but I think mine is added to the fact that I had ADH 14 years ago, lump and very dense breast and no one seemed to ever impress on me how high a risk I was for bc.  I went yearly for my mammo's (which did not show my tumor).  Then my BS did not give me an option for MX just rushed me in for another lump and sent me to rads which I hated because of SE's.  So know I find out I am still at high risk for getting a new bc and have to have yearly MRI's.  My medical bills just keep coming in and I figured the cost of a yearly MRI w/ contrast will be about $1900 out of pocket.  Geez we could take a nice vaca for that every year. I'm tired of being angry but I don't see that going away until I meet with my MO at the end of this month and the PS in May to discuss possible BMX to cut down my risk.  Won't know the answers until then so I am up in limbo which I hate.  I do not do well with the unknown.  I like answers.

    Sorry to be such a downer and whiner but I am really tired of being in this state of mind. 

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