Chemo starting in December 2010
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Ebann,
So glad to hear your news of the good response to chemo. I have been thinking and praying for you.
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Ebann I have missed you! Glad to hear your news.
On the comparrison side: I am on taxotere, but i have hand shakes too, toenails hurt, easily get 'offbalance' walking.... My nurse did tell me my once a week treatments will have culmulative side effects, so I can expect to feel worse towards the end. Strange thing... breast tenderness, reminding me of the milk letdown feeling when nursing. frown. Hope all is peaceful in there!
Lately my mood is good though, I am looking forward to spring, and my niece's wedding in June. I am trying to push myself to do things until I am tired and need to rest and not get upset.
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Ebann, so happy for you with your good news. It really makes my day when someone else has good news or a good day.
I get hand shakes as well, but usually only the third and fourth day after chemo. Its just your CNS responding most likely to the steroids.
I had the most intense crazy itchy hands last night, thought I was going to go mad. I had the cortisone cream on and took two antihistamines and it didn't settle for at least an hour. My older daughter thought I was hilarious and tried to keep me calm, as she kept telling me not to itch but it was like ants under my skin. The only thing that worked was to slap my hands on the top, that's how crazy I felt. We had a good laugh this morning about it.
My husband and I are going to Vancouver today to see a Daid Gray concert and stay overnight. I think this is the first time we've been away in about 4 years. My bones are aching slightly today but Thursday-Sunday are usually my worst crazy bone pain days. I found that ice actually works if you pack it in a soft cloth and place it on the sore area. I've been using heat but ice works too. I walked with my younger daughter last night and had to stop and lean against a hydro pole as the pain in my knee was so momentarily intense I couldn't walk. It passed and we kept going.
One more taxol on the 14th. I think I am a week behind Sammolisa.
I hope everyone has some good moments this weekend.
Hugs to everyone.
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hope, i havehad breast tenderness too!!!! i keep feeling them up and down, you know, looking for anything out of the norm.. but how crazy is that we both have it!
my nails ended up very pretty despite the shakes! lol!
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I've been off for a while. SE's of Taxol are brutal! I'm so jealous that so many of you are almost done. I'm on weekly taxol and only have 5 out of the way so far. So....long way to go. Probably surgery in May.
I've been reading the surgery boards for info and ideas but I thought maybe I'd ask here for tips, tricks, things you wish you had known, etc. since most of you have already had surgery. I'm most worried that with my bmx my kids will to climb into bed to hug and kiss me and end up pulling out a drain!
I spend at least 2 days a week in bed. Completely, utterly unable to move with Taxol. It makes me tired, sore, and my recent fun SE is rib pain. I've had a cough since January that they can't get rid of and I think I finally pulled a muscle, aggrivated by Neupogen and general Taxol muscle pain, and now I can barely move. It feels like I have a broken rib. So now I've been told to take Vicoden non-stop for a few weeks. But that makes me sleepy all day long! This is not fun...
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nolaa!! that's no good!!!
i don't have kids, but when i had my drain (lumpectomy with axillary dissection) i know i was super careful about everything! i was so scared it would just slip right out. when the doc took it out, come to find out, it was up and in there a ways, so slipping out probably would not have happened.
with a bmx, drains or not, i would gently explain to the kiddos that as much as you want hugs, either they gotta be super careful, or not give them at all for a little while ( no kids here, so i may be the WRONG one for giving this kind of advice!)
take any and all help offered. even though my surgery wasn't as severe, i most certainly needed my husband to undress, shower, and dress me for about a week. it was more from the axillary dissection and my arm, than the lumpectomy itself. plus stitches all over, you don't want to pull them out!!
we actually were in a car accident while i had my drain in, someone hit our car and ran. i still had stitches and drain and all, 1 week out from surgery. we were actually on our way to the surgeon at the time, and nothing popped or fell out then, but again, just be careful.
maybe the women here who have had a bmx will have lots more tips and tricks up their sleeve!
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Hey ladies.
I read back but don't remember a thing.
1 day out from chemo I got the nasty stomach bug yesterday. It was brutal. Today I am just super tired and weak from the bug and taxol. Hoping to get lots of rest this weekend.
Nolaa: I haven't had surgery yet either and worry about the same thing with the kids. When I was sick yesterday I let my little guy (3yrs old) hug and kiss my arm. That seemed to make him happy. Maybe that would work with your kids. My kids love my bed too so I totally understand your fears cuz I am right there with you.
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OK -- Taxol is definitely kicking my butt here. I had my first DD Taxol a week ago Thursday, so I'm at day 9.
I had bone pain really bad Sunday thru Tuesday, then Wednesday that went away. On Thursday, I started having visual disturbances, and mild neuropathy in my fingertips. I expected the neuropathy, but the vision is just, I can't explain it, kind of "off" and it's making me ever so slightly dizzy. Anyone else experience this with Taxol?
Three more DD Taxol to go... for me at least A/C went easier.
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i have had some mild neuropathy, but it usually goes away within a day or two, the dizziness, yes, but not sure if it's from taxol, or this continual cold/sinus crud that keeps lingering and hanging on!
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OK. Time for chemo comic relief.
I am an olive complexioned, dark haired Italian. My cousin is a blond fair haired Italian, who has been through chemo twice for BC, once at 28 once at 33. (And is 39 now and completely healthy, with an adopted baby girl....).
She sent me the most thoughtful care package when I was starting chemo with tons of really sweet things... including her old, very blond wig, in case I wanted to have some fun with it, go blond for a change.
So today, I put it on for fun, walked into my kitchen to eat lunch with my family, and the laughter was deafening...... yeah, that's the effect I want when I walk into a room..... rounds and rounds of falling off the chair laughter.
OK. Back to the brown haired wig, got to the take the kids to their music lessons.
Hope everyone is having a good day.
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that's awesome! i am a dark haired, olive skinned italian also... and thought about getting a blonde wig, for fun... but i don't think i make a good looking blonde!! lol!!
the eyebrows i have left are black!
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My youngest were 9 years old (twins) when I had surgery in November. They are a bit older so would understand. They also love to climb in bed with us still from time to time. I found sleeping in a bed to be really uncomfortable for those first few weeks, I slept much better on the couch, or even in a recliner if you have one. That was enough of a routine change that the twins were less likely to jump on me. The cats on the other hand, can't resist jumping on the chest of the sleeping person on the couch.....
The drains are pretty securely sewn in....however, one of mine did come out on its own, but I was one of the unlucky ones who still had drains in three maybe four weeks after surgery.... it came out just from natural movement after all that time in.
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Me too - I was one of the lucky ones to have had drains in for a long time too - like 5 weeks? it was ridiculous how long it was in. I had to have my hubby be in the shower with me and dress me and undress me for about 4 weeks post mx and the first 2 weeks I slept propped up on the couch (didn't have a recliner) Then after that I propped myself up in the bed til I could lay down in bed - I don't think that happened til the drain came out on its own. It ended up slipping out about 4 inches of it and the doc said it would be too dangerous to route it back in and introduce bacteria in there so he had us take it out. Wasn't hard either - hubby just pulled gently and it all came out.
So I guess to all about to have surgery it will depend on whether you have lymph removal as well as your bmx - I had terrible pain with the lymph removal because of that "phantom sunburn thingy" I didn't want anyone touching my arm or moving it or anything. Only relief I had was drugs and propping my arm on a pillow that had a fleece covering (something extremely soft would be good too like a baby blanket or something)
As for Taxol - I would take AC over taxol anyday. I got horrible leg and foot pain that only ice packs helped make it tolerable. To all taking Taxol and having bad SE's - make sure you tell your doc - he may want to turn down the toxicity. Remember if it this bad in the beginning the SE's are cumulative so it will get worse down the road. I have one more left this wednesday to get thru and the leg pain this last time was worse than the one before but still very tolerable with the ice packs, meds, hot baths, etc. Thank god my doc turned down my tox. I also don't have any balance most of the time anymore and have to be holding onto something or someone to walk anywhere - specially the week right after chemo - sure hope that stops after this is done.
Lisamom -- so funny about the wig!!!!
Nolaa --hang in there - try the ice packs on the pain if it's tolerable to do. Some of the other girls have found heating pads work too on the Taxol pain. I only get pain in my legs and feet - mild discomfort in my shoulders and neck. Hot baths, cold ice packs seem to help alot - I even slept with my feet wrapped in ice packs one night - hubby would get up every couple hours to change the ice packs to keep them cold.
On a lighter note --- I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SLEEP FINALLY!!!!!!!! Told doc ativan wasn't working anymore and he got me on a 10 mg dose of Ambien instead - I had tried a low dose of Ambien and it didn't work but this higher dose with one vicoden and I'm out ! - Sleep right thru hot flashes and everything for a good 4-5 hours which says alot as I was waking up every hour. Hopefully this cocktail will work once chemo week is going on.
Well, off to do some work around the house while I can........
Love to all!
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sammolisa,
i finally slept too!!! when i told doc ativan wasn't working anymore, he told me to set a bedtime and don't take the ativan anymore. that went on for about 2 days, and by yesterday i was an absolute zombie, and felt awful. from no sleep!
a little MJ and yeah, back on the ativan helped me sort it all out! lol! i figure if i can do that for a few days, maybe my rhythm will get set and i can slowly taper myself off the ativan.
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Sammolisa -- one treatment to go, you are almost there, I'm so happy for you!
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Thanks for the thoughts on the drains. I think the bed or recliner will just have to be kid-free zones. And maybe my hand can be the hug and kiss zone for a while. At 4 and 2, even when they try to be careful they are always inadvertently bumping something.
My rib pain is getting a tiny bit better -- was out of bed for about 2 hours in the morning and another 2 hours in the evening. I think months of coughing plus the painful side effects of Taxol, plus the neupogen pain, all coincided to make a really painful mess that is just not resolving itself. Hurts like hell to move and twist. Looking on the bright side, maybe its good practice for the bmx recovery.
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Nolaa: I hear ya on the pain. I have been coughing since the first A/C treatment and I have the great aches from taxol. My hips to my toes just ache. Last night I took an ativan, 2 advil and 1/2 an oxycodone so that I could sleep. It helped!! I slept pretty good!! Hope you can find some relief.
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sammolisa, your almost done! yay!!!!!
tomorrow is taxol #6, only 3 more to go! i am so ready for it to be done!!! i am achey about all the time and it sucks! ready for a break to get my strength back then on to rads!
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Hi all,
hdangelbaby-best of luck on your 6th Taxol.
I had my 6th Taxol (weekly) yesterday. I'm going to meet with a radiation oncologist on Wed. the 16th of March. As people start to finish up on chemo, I was wondering what is the usual break length between chemo and radiation.
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Re: time off between chemo and radiation:
Spartina, I was told four weeks, but then again I live in Canada and seems like sometimes the protocols are slightly different.
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I don't have radiation until after surgery so it will awhile for me. I see the plastic surgeon on Thurs and next Monday I see my regular surgeon.
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spartina, my onc told me last week there is about a 4 week break. to get all healed up from chemo and get your energy back. plus that's when you have alot of the scans done also. i'm sure i will find out today more, since they are supposed to set me up with the rads onc soon, if i find out anymore, i will pass it along your way!
wish me luck ladies, if my wbc dipped any lower, they either have to adjust the dose, or postpone the dose and this thing going on in my throat needs looked at too!!!!!
i think ativan will be in my future today, screw what doc said about not taking it!
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good news! my counts were up today! yay! so i got chemo #6! only 2more to go! woo hoo!!
bad news: the sore throat i have been having for two days is indeed strep! even the doc was shocked when the test came back! he thought i had sores in my throat from taxol, but it was in fact strep!!! no wonder i have felt so tired and achey lately! yuck, but on amoxicillan now for10 days and that should clear it up.
i'm just so happy my counts were up, cause this could have been way worse if they were in the toilet!
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Angel: So glad your counts were up!!! Boo on the strep though. That really stinks. I hope you feel better quickly!! And WOO HOO on 2 more treatments, me too!!!!!
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it's getting exciting.....
the strep ain't gonna get me down!! lol!
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hope everyone is doing well, checking back in with my chemo sisters. I have been having radiation, 4 down, 31 to go!! It was 4 weeks between chemo and rads for me. Rads are going ok, just hate the 25 minute drive back and forth from work.
Angel, glad your counts were up, kick that strep to the curb!!
I have had trouble sleeping too, since chemo and I've been put on ativan and trazadone. they work "ok"....guess my mnds races too much. Thank goodness for the ativan, at least I get some sleep.
Hang in there everyone, thought chemo would never end, but it does. ((((((hugs))))))))))) to keep the s/e away.
JoAnn
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Yeah ebann, so happy for you!
Glad to hear everyone else is moving right along too. I do wonder if the dose of taxol i was being given was low??? Because I just did not have these side effects most of you are having. I thoughgt it was normal at the time but now I see its not. Water under the bridge now as they say.
On the sleep, I have started too with that. I am usually happy with just Tylenol PM, and I make sure to not have any chocolate or caffine anything after noon or I will feel it and be wired. I used to suffer insomnia pretty bad years ago and learned that if I took sleep pills for more than 2 or 3 days, my body would quickly adjust and then I coudn't sleep on my own without them, so I make sure to just use them for 2 or 3 nights then tough it out for the next 2 or 3. Warm milk used to help me too, but I am trying to stay away from dairy right now. I do read before bed and can only get a few pages in before my eyes get all watery and burning becasue they just need to close. Accupuncure works too. There are so many tips out there to try.
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Rachel2 - I just sent you a private message.
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Taxotears - I've been having quite the problem with leaky eyes. The chemo nurse recommended moisturized eyedrops (artificial tears) this morning - anyone tried this?
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Hello all my chemo sisters !! I am on day 2 of my last taxol and so far so good - SE's usually don't start til tomorrow afternoon so I rearranged my spare room as some friends got together and made a benefit for me and my hubby on the 20th. They are all singer/songwriters here in Nashville and are going to perform. So am looking forward to some fun. By then I should be feeling well and past most of the SE's.
-- EricaH I was having trble for awhile of leaking eyes - mine went away but I hear they can be permanent because the chemo destroys the tear ducts in the corner of your eye that drains them away. May want someone to look into it more for you.
So the next few weeks are gonna be like this..... yesterday was last chemo - next wednesday is my followup for blood count - as long as the counts look good then out with the port! The benefit is on the 20th. Then the following wednesday - (the23rd) is my CT scan with the rad onc and fitting for my body mold. Then sometime tho following week they will start rads - so my break will be about 3 weeks before rads start...... Barring any complications. The rad onc thinks there is some seroma fluid build up in my breast that hasn't gone away yet from surgery - he doesnt' think it will be a problem but I have heard sometimes you have to have it drained first before rads. We'll see.
Lindaa -- are you doing the 1x 12 taxol ? Because that is a low dose over 12 weeks rather than what i did which was dose dense - 4 times in an 8 week period. The ending dose (cumulative dose) remains the same, but can have harder side effects than the 1x12.
I am taking advantage of as much today as possible. Happy smiles and thoughts and hugs to all today.
Love you all,
Lisa
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