After Herceptin- Did Side Effects Go Away?

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shadow2356
shadow2356 Member Posts: 393

I finished my herceptin a week ago. I had TCH x 6 with herceptin every week at first. Then Herceptin every three weeks until I reached a year.

I have a lot of side effects but my doctor insists they are not from the herceptin. The worst of these is the muscle and joint pain. It is particularly bad in my hip and I am going for a bone scan this week just to check it.

My question to those who have finished herceptin is, if you had side effects from your herceptin did they go away when you stopped it and how long did it take?

I am glad to have gotten herceptin and I would have taken it despite the side effects. I just wish they wouldn't make me feel like some type of hypercondriac when I am really suffering.

Any info would be greatly appreciated.

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  • Boo307
    Boo307 Member Posts: 222
    edited November 2010

    Shadow,

    I had a year of Herceptin with a different chemo regime from you, and had few Herceptin side effects.  I had the runny nose, but it went away as soon as I finished.

    I had Taxotere, Cytoxan, and Herceptin.  Could you side effects be from Carboplatin?  You have long ago finished it, so maybe that isn't the source.

    Best wishes, Boo

  • Cowgirl13
    Cowgirl13 Member Posts: 1,936
    edited November 2010

    Shadow, i'm 4 months out from my last Herceptin.  I really don't notice side effects anymore.  I think they went away at about 3 months out for me,  Get ready for better times!  and CONGRATULATIONS on finishing your Herceptin treatments

    Lizzie 

  • shadow2356
    shadow2356 Member Posts: 393
    edited November 2010

    Thanks! I think 3 months would be great. The muscle and joint pain are hard to deal with.

  • amlg1
    amlg1 Member Posts: 596
    edited December 2010

    I also had no side effects from Herceptin,just runny nose.I would think the aches are the residuals from your chemo.Good Luck!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2011

    No sure if anyone still gets on this but am wondering if anyone else has experienced back problems.  I've been on Herceptin about 3 months and it keeps getting progressively worse as time goes on.  The pain is in the middle of my back.  I have mets on my spine but it didn't hurt before.  Any comments?

  • Caroljl
    Caroljl Member Posts: 57
    edited March 2011

    I am still on herceptin until August, and I don't know if the problem I have is because of herceptin or not. I've noticed for about a month now that my finger nails are so brittle, they crack and chip off from the tips down, I can't even file them down any farther. I try to keep Hard as Nails polish on them, but that chips along with the nails, any input would help.  I did ask the nurses, but they don't give me any  advice, suppose I will wait until I see my oncologist.

  • BonoboGirrl
    BonoboGirrl Member Posts: 168
    edited March 2011

    Caroljl, the brittle, splitting nails is very common on Herceptin and should go away once you finish your Herceptin protocol. 

  • BonoboGirrl
    BonoboGirrl Member Posts: 168
    edited March 2011

    Shadow, let us know about the bone scan. There have been other threads started with regards to SEs on Herceptin, but just to let you know I've experienced back pain with Herceptin and a persistent dry cough. Scans have all been clear to date, so I'm guessing both symptoms are due to the Herceptin. 

  • Jaimieh
    Jaimieh Member Posts: 2,373
    edited March 2011

    I am a year out of herceptin and I still have the hip pain but the muscle pain went away after about 6 months.  My nail issues didn't start until 18 months AFTER chemo, apparently my body is a little slow.  The muscle issues slowly dissolved so I would notice that my thighs were not as weak and then my arms and it just continued to get better. 

  • weety
    weety Member Posts: 1,163
    edited March 2011

    My nails are still brittle and "flakey".  I finished herceptin in Oct.  The are constantly chipping into layers, I guess is the way to describe it.  Toenails, too.  My cuticles all seem to be extra dry and ragged, too.  I don't know if that's my fault or the chemo/herceptin.  My fingernails really look like poo-poo, but I think I finally got over being embarrassed by them.  Who cares, I guess it's not that important in the whole scheme of things.

  • BonoboGirrl
    BonoboGirrl Member Posts: 168
    edited March 2011

    Weety, flakey, chipping nail layers is exactly how I would describe it. My toenails are little better than my fingernails, but not by much.  Definitely chemo/herceptin! 

  • BonoboGirrl
    BonoboGirrl Member Posts: 168
    edited March 2011

    Jamieh, so glad to hear that the muscle soreness got better. One down! Woot! :)  The rest will catch up, I believe, in good time. It will. 

  • Jaimieh
    Jaimieh Member Posts: 2,373
    edited March 2011

    My toenails have holes in them that was down at the cuticle but is slowly growing out and is discolored.  My oncologist says that he has never seen it, neiter has the podiatrist.   I guess there always has to be one. 

    The hip pain is very slow to go away but it is the same hip that I was in the orthopedic doctor before being dx with BC so I just think it is me. 

  • Jenna1961
    Jenna1961 Member Posts: 71
    edited March 2011

    Wow, that is herceptin at work 100% Jaimieh!

    My nails are still flakey too (and thin) almost four months out of herceptin. No more joint pain though - and much less fatigue. I still feel like having a hangover in the morning - and look like that too - with bleary eyes and red capillaries.

  • BonoboGirrl
    BonoboGirrl Member Posts: 168
    edited March 2011

    Hi there, Jenna. Yes, my nails look very similar. Also, I've been feeling that fatigue too. I wasn't sure if it was due to pushing myself (single mom of two, full-time student also working full time), but I've noticed that it's worse after treatments. And I've also encountered that hangover look/feel. Can't wait 'til summer. I work in education, so get the summers off. Just a few months to go. :)

  • Jenna1961
    Jenna1961 Member Posts: 71
    edited March 2011

    Hats off to you AnneMarie! I would not survive till summer in your shoes.
    Just being a mom to two is tough enough. I can not overtire myself any more and sleeping has become very important after this whole ordeal. 



  • BonoboGirrl
    BonoboGirrl Member Posts: 168
    edited March 2011
    I can not overtire myself any more and sleeping has become very important after this whole ordeal

    For me too. Used to only need 5-6 hours a sleep a night, without a problem. Now require a minimum of 7, and even then I'm sluggish! I don't feel like I have had a good night's sleep since chemo began a year ago. Hoping that once enough time has lapsed since my last H treatment I'll be able get a solid night's sleep. Aaaahhhh. . . sleep. What a blessing. :)
  • BonoboGirrl
    BonoboGirrl Member Posts: 168
    edited March 2011

    Not sure why the editor is displaying the html code in my last message. Tried to remove it. Ah well. 

  • stlcardsfan
    stlcardsfan Member Posts: 466
    edited March 2011

    Ah-ha!

    the nail picture - exactly what I am dealing with!! Ridges, spliting into the quick! Got all of that. 

    Does it eventually go away - I mean do the nails get better.

    right now - my thumbs are the worst! 

  • Chan_go_foill
    Chan_go_foill Member Posts: 50
    edited March 2011

    I had my last herceptin a few weeks ago. My nails have been like this too, peely and with ridges, but my nails were never very good to begin with. Frankly, I'm just glad to have nails after chemo!

  • Garden128
    Garden128 Member Posts: 1
    edited April 2011

    I began Herceptin along with Taxotere and Carbo then disabling upper back pain and spasms set in that pretty much stopped me in my tracks and have not gone away. The oncologist figured it was from the Taxotere so he gave me a couple weeks off, then we proceeded with Herceptin only.  Now it looks like the Herceptin was the culprit after all.  The Herceptin only treatment worsened the situation even furhter, and I now can't cope at all without narcotics.  This after only 2 TCH rounds (6 weeks worth of Herceptin).  We are taking another break at this point to sort things out a little more and let the pain abate.  My oncologist is unfamiliar with this as a side effect so we are taking things slow.  With very early (2a) stage and agressive surgery (bilateral mast. with clean lymph nodes) he figures it's not worth risking permanent damage (and I agree!)  Time will tell at this point.  No one seems to have a lot of info. on this particular side effect.   Do any of you gals have experience with this going away?  It's a burning muscle pain that esculates to the point of spasm.  Thanks!

  • elmcity69
    elmcity69 Member Posts: 998
    edited April 2011

    I ended Herceptin February 18th. My nails already look better, and my hair is certainly growing faster. Heart palpitations are gone.

    That being said, Herceptin was a breeze. Thank God (and Dr. Slamon) for it!

    J

  • PearlGirl
    PearlGirl Member Posts: 549
    edited April 2011

    Ladies, thanks for the info on the Herceptin SEs and for letting me know that I'm not alone in this. My nails are a disaster, my hair is thin and my joints and bones ache so much that I can't straighten up for a minute or two when I stand up or get out out my car.  I am like a decrepit old woman and I hate this!  Last Herceptin will be in June so hoping to start feeling better sometime during the summer.

  • RazzleberryRose
    RazzleberryRose Member Posts: 1
    edited July 2012

    I realize I am more than a year late to the conversation ... but I'm wondering about the bone/joint issue side effects with Herceptin. I've got an elbow that feels like I rammed it into a wall and a wrist that feels like it could break if I were just to tweak it a little bit. My fingernails on my hand have recovered from chemo (I had Cytoxin and Taxotere, last chemo November 2011) . My toenails have not fully recovered. That said, all nails are more brittle overall than ever before.

    I am excited to read that my hair may grow a little faster after Herceptin is over. I look like Greg Brady. I used to have long hair down to my waist, thick and so amazing. I love love loved my hair - it was certainly my best feature. How about weight gain? Did anyone gain wait going through this?? My last Herceptin will be this year near Christmas.

  • floridatworeds
    floridatworeds Member Posts: 22
    edited August 2012

    Hey Razzie,

     just joining the conversation, in my seven week of herceptin treatment along with every three weeks of chemo(abraxane). Lost all my hair within a week, three weeks after chemo. I had long locks, was so traumatic for me. But I have grown to love my bald head and will probably keep it. Turning 48 on August 18, 2012 nice gift. Notice the dark color in my nails and also brittle, hands are darker. I still have five more weeks of herceptin plus two more chemo. Than it is six weeks of radiation and then back to herceptin to round out the year. Biggest side affect for me so far is loss of hair.

  • marjie
    marjie Member Posts: 1,134
    edited August 2012

    My nails are soft and awful...I just keep them cut right down short because otherwise they peel right off.  I think the nail issues are as a result of the "hard" chemo more than the Herceptin.  It didn't take too long for the SE's from Herceptin to go away - the achy joints, runny nose and fatigue were the worst for me and they're gone.

  • shadow2356
    shadow2356 Member Posts: 393
    edited August 2012

    I started this thread almost two years ago. I have been finished with my herceptin for some time. I am happy to report that every side effect I had from it is gone. My doctor kept saying all the things were not from herceptin. Bone pain, joint pain, bad nails, etc. All gone by about 6 months after stopping herceptin.

    So, it all was from the herceptin. I don't know why they insisted it wasn't. I think they might be afraid people will stop the herceptin. I am glad I had herceptin. I feel like it upped my odds. BUt I do wish they had been more honest.

     Tomorrow it will be 3 years since I was diagnosed. Happy to be cancer free. Good luck to everyone currently going through it.

  • marjie
    marjie Member Posts: 1,134
    edited August 2012
    Shadow - I was the same...found it very frustrating that the doctors kept telling me my SE's weren't the Herceptin, especially when a lot of them started WITH the Herceptin.  They wanted to blame everything on taxotere, which I agree did give me some nasty SE's but Herceptin definitely kept me feeling quite achy and tired right through the duration of my treatments.  I just stopped telling the docs.
  • Jaimieh
    Jaimieh Member Posts: 2,373
    edited August 2012

    So a year ago I posted about my ugly holes in my toenails.  They are now gone and all is well except for my one toenail that now stands straight up and must be kept short.  Besides that all is well, hip still hurts but the more I workout the less it hurts.  So I try to keep busy and it keeps hip pain away. 

  • venaba
    venaba Member Posts: 22
    edited August 2012

    I had my pinky toes to both grow straight up. I have to file them down to just one layer. That layer is super thin but it looks better than wearing chick lets on my toes. And, the layers are peely and flaky.

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