I have lost my mind-literally

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Pure
Pure Member Posts: 1,796

Can menopause cause memory loss-I am having a hard time remembering names of things and people. I have a very bad short term memory. It's driving me nuts. It's embarresing sometimes.

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  • Let-It-Be
    Let-It-Be Member Posts: 325
    edited February 2011

    I can't remember certain people's names anymore.... I used to have such a good memory for names and phone number... Now, I just attributed it to mean that I'm only remembering the names of people who matter :) 

    Don't be hard on yourself, maybe it's something you're not meant to remember.  Laugh it off.  

    I  won't believe it's menopause, too stubborn!

  • pickle
    pickle Member Posts: 1,409
    edited February 2011

    My memory used to be very sharp and I never had to write things down. Now, I am a list and note maker...the problem is I forget where I put my list most of the time. After finishing chemo last year, I was unable to comprehend a simple recipe. My cognitive skils were terrible but i have see a big improvement in the last year. My doc says that menopause affects memory but the good news is that it gets better post menopause...I hope he's right.

    Hugs

    Beth

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited February 2011

    My memory sucks.  I couldn't remember the name of my ortho doc yesterday.  I can't remember why I walk into a room, so I have to backtrack my steps!  And my memory used to be so sharp.  I am about 4 years into menopause and it is so frustrating.  And embarrassing!

    Pickle .. I lose my notes and forget to take them to the store with me!  So I have little notes spread all over the house and taped to my computer!

    Bren

  • nowords
    nowords Member Posts: 423
    edited February 2011

    I went into chemo-tamoxi-pause and did notice a difference in overall cognitive stuff including memory issues....I did not have an ooph --- Some of my non cancer friends who are through menopause have told me that it got better.... It will be two years since I was thrown into instant menopause in July, and I do notice improvements...not back to pre-cancer levels yet though.

  • nikola
    nikola Member Posts: 466
    edited February 2011

    Same here. I asked my onc and he said chemo-brain can last up to one year post chemo. Then estrogen deprivation (in my case zoladex inj) until body adjusts.

    Put in mix trouble sleeping and no wander we are not sharp.

  • jan508
    jan508 Member Posts: 1,330
    edited February 2011

    Been there - done that!

    I was post menopause prior to dx and am now on tamoxifen - so I'm on my 2nd round of menopause.

    Yes, short term memory is shot but the doc put it this way...

    If you forget where you put your keys that's fine. It's when you find them and don't know what they are for is when you really have an issue!!!!

    So, I just smile and move on!! Sometimes not remembering can be a blessing in disguise !!

    Jan

  • pj12
    pj12 Member Posts: 25,402
    edited February 2011

    A month of so ago there was a BreastCancer.org "article" that referenced some recent studies that reported "chemo brain" did not affect just women who had chemo. Said most women who went through a breast cancer diagnosis and treatment experienced problems with their short term memory regardless of their treatment plan. I came away from reading it believing that it was due to the overwhelming stress associated with  the whole experience.  It surely does seem that hormonal changes do play a role though. I agree with nikola, lack of sleep is a big problem. Drugs too and just the after effects of anesthesia ... so many of us have more than one or even two surgeries.

    And then of course, we are looking at ourselves with a magnifying glass... noticing all the possible changes and worrying about things we used to laugh off or ignore.

    Tincture of Time heals a lot of problems! 

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited February 2011

    I think it has something to do with the chemo, menopause and the stress of what we've gone through.  I have the CRS (Can't Remember S#!^) syndrome - thank goodness for post it notes and my DH who remembers everything.

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited February 2011

    What did you ask?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2011

    Estogen depletion, and after chemo residual effects I think.  I do remember when my kids were growing up, and I was younger then,  I would sometimes get their names mixed up.  Still do sometimes.  I think it is a hormonal or lack of hormone issue.

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    Barb

  • jteach
    jteach Member Posts: 199
    edited February 2011

    Titan

    hahahahaha 

  • DCMom
    DCMom Member Posts: 624
    edited February 2011

    Titan-  ROFLMAO

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 7,799
    edited February 2011

    chemopause for me

  • Claire_in_Seattle
    Claire_in_Seattle Member Posts: 4,570
    edited February 2011

    Don't worry Jen.  My mother called me by our dog's name many times when we were growing up. 

    When I was dating three guys back in the day, I couldn't remember who I had told what.  I did keep the names straight however.

  • J9W
    J9W Member Posts: 395
    edited February 2011

    I remember a few years ago asking my older sister how I'd know I was having hot flashes and not just sweating.  When she finished laughing at me, she told that the flashes weren't the worst part - that I'd forget things and carry around a notebook with me. Being the younger sister, of course I thought she was full of it. She wasn't. I've actually started putting notes to myself in my phone because I could never find the darn notebook but always (so far) know where my phone is.

  • NatureGrrl
    NatureGrrl Member Posts: 1,367
    edited February 2011

    titan, Laughing

    I went through menopause in my early 40's, years ago (too many years ago).  The memory loss was the worst part for me. I remember sitting at a table in a restaurant, ordering dinner, and then after the server left, I turned to my date and asked him what I ordered.  I hated it. I was known for my great memory and prided myself on it.  Oh well Undecided

    I will say, the memory loss seemed to be largely (although not entirely) temporary for me -- after chemo as well -- my memory became better after some time passed.  I still draw a blank on a name or something once in awhile, but nothing major.  I think others are right in that stress, lack of sleep, nutrition, can all play into this, too.

    I don't know that it helps but I try to do things that are supposed to exercise my brain -- both literally (physical exercise increases blood flow and helps) and in other ways, like problem-solving (word and other) games, doing/learning new things (creates new neuron paths, supposedly), reading lots, doing some creative, etc.

    I know how frustrating it is -- be gentle with yourself.  Hopefully things will get better for you!

  • nikola
    nikola Member Posts: 466
    edited February 2011

    I manage to lose my phones, too. Then I am hoping they are not silenced so I can call them.

  • SpunkyGirl
    SpunkyGirl Member Posts: 1,568
    edited February 2011

    That's very normal, Jen, and very embarrassing sometimes.  It comes and goes with me, for some reason. 

  • karen1956
    karen1956 Member Posts: 6,503
    edited February 2011

    Jenn....yes, yes and yes....lack of estrogen affects memory.....since chemo and 3 1/2 years of AI's, I don't function cognitively as well as I did before Dx....yes, I am 5 years older, but that doesn't account for all the changes, but for me, I am doing better off the AI's...Writing things down helps me (even if I don't go back and look at it) as I am using multiple modalities...hearing, seeing and doing.....

    I personally think you are doing great!!!!!

  • kim40
    kim40 Member Posts: 904
    edited February 2011

    Jen, I know how you feel.  My memory was so sharp at one point and now I suffer from CRS too!

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited February 2011

    Not menopause, not chemotherapy. Different drug therapy (which I am no longer on) but the brain death was horrific:

    My normal brain is forgetful, so I frequently walk out of my apartment in the mornings and only when I am about to board public transportation do I realize that I have forgotten my newspaper, which I always read on the train.

    Under my brain-killing medication, I would leave the apartment, ride on the metro, apparently not noticing that I wasn't reading, go to work, head back home still not even realizing that I was bored, then head back to my apartment, see the paper in its original wrapping and only then exclaim: "Ah, I forgot my paper."

    And everybody would suddenly strike me as so, so bright. It didn't help that, amidst my stupidity, I was indeed working amongst some of the most intelligent people in the country.

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited February 2011

    Not sure if I shared this crazy story with y'all.  It happened a few months after I had finished chemo, I think..........  Anyway, I needed something from the grocery store for a receipe that I was getting ready to cook, I jumped in the car with my DD and headed to the grocery.  I got to the grocery, continued to drive past the grocery, turned down the highway and finally looked at my DD and said "where am I going and for what".  I think she may have peeeeed on herself she laughed so hard.  I honestly couldn't remember........... Thank goodness for laughter.

  • Pure
    Pure Member Posts: 1,796
    edited February 2011

    I forgot I even wrote this post...I am not even kidding...lol

    Thank you alll for your support and good advice. I am so happy to know that this is common. Funny thing is a year ago I would have wondered if I had a brain tumour so I have made progress:)

     thanks again really:)

  • SusieMTN
    SusieMTN Member Posts: 795
    edited February 2011

    LOL Wow this is why I come here!  Thanks for posting this Pure!  I have been feeling the same way! 

    I put a bowl of soup in the micro then forgot I put it in there, went back to the kitchen and almost started to get another bowl out and do it all over again.  Remote control found in the pantry.......... Need I go on! 

    Hope everyone's memory returns!  I however am losing hope for mine! LOL. 

    Susie

  • mrsnjband
    mrsnjband Member Posts: 1,409
    edited February 2011

    My memory wasn't so hot before bc and it was really bad after chemo.  It is a little better now, some days are better than others.  So I feel your pain.  NJ

  • kimber3006
    kimber3006 Member Posts: 586
    edited February 2011

    I'm with you, too.  I can't remember simple words - everyday terms.  I've been at the same job for 9 years and suddenly can't remember the phone and fax numbers when I'm leaving people voicemails.  I won't even start with names.....it is embarrassing and so frustrating.  I had a great memory before all of this and now I'm half afraid to fuss at people at work when they still haven't gotten me the answers/work I need for fear they did and I just don't remember it - lol!

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