February 2011 chemo pals
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Question I have what I would call a weak leg. It starts around my hip and goes down my leg. Started last night. Yesterday was my low point so I am hoping the leg will come back to life. Hard to walk as it feels like it wants to give out. Has anyone else experiences anything like this. I go for my blood counts today and I will ask the doctor about it.
Cindy
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Hi ladies
I started chemo the end of jan. I am on my way to my third chemo treatment right now. I am om taxol 4x then ac 4 times. So i have been doing pretty good. Only se or not sleeping well because of the steroids and a little achy feeling. Sorry for the typos but I am in the car on my iPad .
I amhavng chemo first but well me have a bs mastectomy after chemo. Will post more later on. Thanks for being here ladies. I do not feel so alone anymore -
GG - you need to call your Oncologist! It is not your age girl! I am 37 and had my first treatment of TC on Feb 3rd. I was also fine for the first 3 days, just tired and no appetite. I took all of the meds they gave for nausea, got the neulasta shot so I took claritin but still had very painful bone aches. My feet even hurt to walk. NOT YOUR AGE or FITNESS! As for the fever - it is not to be ignored! I did for 3 days! I thought this was the normal "flu-like symptoms' that they refer to?? I hate needles and did NOT want to go the Onc as I knew they would pump me with fluids so I sucked it up for days! By day 3 of a high fever and nausea, my boyfriend dragged me to the Dr. as you are supposed to go if you remotely get a fever over 100! We are not supposed to be ill! Turned out that I was admitted to the hospital and had an appendix ready to rupture!! Completely unrelated to the cancer or the chemo but the fever indicated that I had an infection somewhere in my body! It is not to be ignored and I hope that you will call your Onc ASAP! She actually thought it was cat scrach fever as my nodes on my good side were swollen and I had a cat bite on my other hand (the one where I had full node dissection)! So... could be anything but it is not the chemo giving you the fever. You must get a thermometer and monitor yourself. The key is NOT to feel bad through this so call your Dr. ever single day if you have to! That is why they are there. Do you have Ativan? I only took that to sleep and it works pretty well. You need to sleep - even if you sleep all day and up at night - we need all the rest we can!
Be well and know that we are all here to listen and help where we can! Please call your Dr. and fight back!!
Lots of hugs from West Palm Beach!
Mary
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Dear Safari,
I did read about your harrowing experience and wondered when this first happened to me if my fever and aches were more than average, and now that you've told me to call my breast surgeon, I have decided I will get a thermometer and, if I get sideswiped again this week and that temp ain't right, my husband can take me to the ER. See, the last two nights, while bad, are better than it was the previous two nights, so I'm thinking perhaps whatever it was has gone away. But since reading your advice, husband is going to store today so I'll ask him to get me a thermometer, and if I wake up again tonite or anytime this week, I'll make real sure the temp doesn't warrant a trip to the ER.
PAIN MEDICINE QUESTION: While I'm on the subject of being in pain, this morning I dragged myself into the shower and GOSH was I ever filthy. The warm water felt relaxing to my aching muscles. Could be I did have a little infection and it's gone now, with the shower helping the last bit go away. But still..... I'll let you know how things go. Did any of the rest of you all's docs hear your plea about having terrible body pain and give you something for it? I was given same stuff I take for my bad legs when they put the portacath in, a small one-time prescription, but that cath didn't hurt at all compared to this other with the fever, but it was better than nothing and prevented me from taking too much of my regular stuff. But if anybody would like to comment further about pain medication that helps with this, I'd like to know what kind. Thanks. GG
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dragonfly1 we are on the same schedule! I have to say today I am finally a tad better. Not fab- but compared to the past few days!
Last night I did take some of a part of the percocet even for the h/a. Took the edge off the h/a for 3 hours. Then woke up again. Making myself eat- taking more motrin today (alternating w/ tylenol at the advice of my onc office). Finally the head is easing.
Went to work for a while. And now looking out at the beautifuly sunny day here in Georgia. If I stay like this, I'll be good.
I am thinking that my tx day are Wed and the TCH week the Sat- Tues are likely to be up and down. I am going to talk to the Onc about the headache. I am thinking it truly might be neulasta (I am an RN and tend to read the medical lit on that stuff too). Ice bags all over my head did help keep it at bay.
I am getting sick of waking up at night- but at least the pain is better. Stomach is weird- I was constipated- then crampy yesterday (after mild lax) now just went to bathroom ok. Weird feeling happy about just 'minor' body functions.
My onc office said I'll keep getting better and days 11-15 and through until next chemo will be upswing.
Hopeful!
The bone headache was just NOT what I expected at all. However, without neulasta I can only imagine what risk I might be at too...trade offs.Dragonfly1- Hope you have a good day! Thinking of you all too.
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dogeyed,
I contact the oncology dept for the smallest things. Made 3 calls last weekend because there was a mix-up with getting my perscriptions filled prior to 1st treatment. Made a couple other calls about the Neulasta shot (was it approved to get at home, if not what happens, oh, it's covered if I get it at the hospital, ok I rest easier). Called and asked for an anti-anxiety med, the nurse said, take one of the Ativan you've been perscribed. Ok, that works. Day after chemo I wake up with aches around my chest wall when I take deep breaths. Ok, I wait to see the doctor in this case since I'll be there at 1 pm. The nurse says, it's probably due to all the liquids your body took in yesterday during chemo, take another Ativan (that works). They say use Aleve or Advil if the Neulasta gives me bone pains. I tell them I'm allergic and am told I can get Vicodan if I need it, just call, but start with Tylenol. The tylenol helps. I'm confused about taking the nausea medicine so the nurse explains again to take what I need when I need it.
Monday I go get bloodwork here in town. The tech isn't sure I need it every week altho I know I got those instructions correct from onco nurse. But I call the onco nurse and ask her to explain it all again to me, and she does: get the CBC every Mon and then a more thorough work-up the Monday before chemo. The one main nurse is Jackie and I just call her for everything and she's great, there's others, like Peg and Kathy, I call each and everyone of them by name when I talk to them just like they are my sisters or neighbors.
If at any time I feel like I want to speak directly to the oncologist herself, I will tell the nurse. But right now, I'm very comfortable dealing with Jackie and the others.
I hope I don't make this sound like it's about money, because that is not what I intend. But our health insurance dollars are shelling out a pretty penny for us to get healthy. We do not need to sit around being miserable waiting for a doctor somewhere down the road to realize we need help. Be proactive. Take your health into your own hands. It is like your money, no one is going to care more about your HEALTH than you are! And WE are worth it!
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Dear GG~ Be careful with those fevers! I think we have all been warned of a fever over 100.4F to call oncology nurses immediately. They may be the result of the low white blood count or a minor infection (which can become major pretty quickly). I have an emergency card I carry in my wallet with all my info, just in case.
I know the idea of being in the ER is horrible, but the fever could be a sign of something dangerous.
Done bossing you around.
{{{{HUGS}}}}
Michelle
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Just got back from my 1st TAC treatment. I must say I feel perfectly normal - although I expect that to change very quick. I actually enjoyed the time in the chair after I got over the initial shock and acceptance that I HAD no other choice if I want to be around for my grandbabies.
I met a super nice lady starting TAC the same day as me and with somewhat the same dx. It was great to have a chemo pal!!
Well, let's see what the next few days bring. Shot is tomorrow. ugh
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Hi All,
Glad to hear we are improving, and all who just had a tx I hope you fare well. I actually ate pancakes and sausage today - cause for celebration!
Thundershowers - I am glad you had a nice "chemo friend" and it prompted me to share this. My first tx was an 8:30 a.m. appt. so there were very few patients in chairs. A stylish lady chose the chair next to me and got all set up. No sooner did they hook her up than she started to talk, and talk, and talk. Apparently she gets anxious unless she is talking. She actually said this. This was my first tx and I was just trying to focus on the experience! I heard all about her husband who called her 4 times during her tx asking when she would be done, (mine was next to me mercifully in headphones watching a movie on his ipad!), I heard about her wigs, golf, her friends, wine, makeup, boots, etc. This was her 4th tx and the capper was her telling me that her husband was pretty excited about the fact the her "lady parts" had no hair anymore! I couldn't believe that she told me that!
I thought that might make you all laugh!
Kathie
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LOL Kathie, I am now laughing and dreading my first experience tomorrow at the same time!!
I did spend some time at the clinic today and nobody talked to me, so hopefully it will stay that way tomorrow as well.
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Hello Pals ... I hope you don't mind me just kinda joining in here...I am finding hope and strength and just need to be here I think ...
Today seems to be picking up a little bit. I am going to try and eat some soup that my husband brought to me ... just before he goes to get the new anti nausea pills (I think there's a joke in there! LOL) ...I have a tiny bit of upset belly right this second but I will try the soup anyway ... I wish we could all just room together in a healing house with people all over to help us in every way ... no needs left unattended ,,, oh boy ... I better go eat ,,,
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I feel so stupid asking this question, but what is TAC? Is that Taxol, Adriamycin and Cytoxan all at once?
Doh.
Michelle
Just having AC right now.
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Hey charlottesmama
I think that is what TAC consists of. I didn't really get all the technical names, but I do know Adriamycin is the A - so I am pretty sure the others you named are also correct. I was told I would get constipated - so I took a mild laxative and ate dried prunes during the treatment. LOL Now I have the runs and I brought that on myself out of worry about constipation! Oh well, live and learn. Just ate a banana.
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Thundershowers, good luck to you. I am starting 4 cycles of TAC on Friday, will compare notes. Sorry about the prunes etc,
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Anyone having first tx on the 24th?
I'll be doing TCH.
I was a crazy, crying person in the oncology office today when I went for labs.
I'm still wondering if I should have had a port put in.
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Its day 12 and I thought i was prepared for the whole hair thing but when the first chunk was in my comb i lost it. I thought i would handle it a lil more gracefully. ..trying to get the courage to just get it over...how many days do i have before most of its gone?
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Lonneta04 I know how you feel. The whole time was like it will be ok its just hair. I will be ok. Well I wasnt ok. I did cry abit and then I started thinking, hmmmm. I dont have to shave the legs for awhile, lol. Let me tell you I got some hairy legs, so that put a smile on my face, lol. I really started loosing it on day 16. I went ahead and had it shaved on day 14 because it really started coming out then. Is your avitar a tattoo of yours lonneta.
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Day 10 of this treatment and finally I feel pretty darn good. Blood counts were down again yesterday but not as low as last time. Now I am having trouble with what I think is sciatica pain. Goes from my butt down my leg and into my foot. Hopefully I can get this leg thing straightened out real soon. Ok I am off to physical therapy.
Have a great day,
Cindy
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I am now the proud owner of a nifty thermometer. I can put it in my mouth, but I can also put it under my arm! How cool is that? Husband made a special trip to get it for me, touching really. I couldn't read the instructions last night when I woke up feverish, so couldn't see what temp was or be sure what it said, except that it feels less and less each day out from chemo. This morning I read the instructs, tho, and took my morning temp, I was 99.7 degrees, which I'm usually a little feverish to begin with. So, I'm all set now for either another fever rampage this week, or when the next chemo blows me away.
You all sound so much like me, I identify with waking up every night around 2 a.m., and I hear your constipation troubles, followed by diarrhea, and yup, that's all me. Waste was a little dried the first few days, then blasting out... I have a non-aspirin type under-tongue pill I take for just that, have for years, and I felt SO much better when I finally took one after breakfast of Cheerios and OJ. Mid-morning I ate melon and egg sal sand, piece of dark chocolate and milk, yum, yum, lifted my spirits. Husband picked me up some more chicken noodle soup with carrots, and he's got an onion soup w/potatoes in the slow cooker. Trying to keep up my nutrition.
But ladies, I'm telling you, I'm almost one week out from my first chemo, and I am completely wiped out, just no strength AT ALL. I just shuffle around like a street woman with her cart, was glad I got my shower in the other day, makes all the difference (I don't shower every day). I am 60 years old and this is a disease better suited for youth. I think that's why they didn't give me ACT all at once.
I have decided when I go back for next chemo, I'll try to see doc, altho that's his surgery day... but I come back in the next day for blood cell shot, maybe he'll be around. Anyhow, I'm going to explain to him just how harrowing that first few days was, and tell him that older cancer women need (a) pain killers, (b) diarrhea meds, and (c) introduce idea to him that after the four treatments of the AC part of ACT, that he consider surgery then.... I do not know if I can continue on this for total of 16 times... it might kill me. So, we'll see. He prefers to get all chemo done. Also, I did find that the medicine for nausea they gave with chemo, that I could start pill form two days out, worked best for me in general with nausea. I just get bits of it now, so just took one yesterday, may not have to take it at all today. I feel much better without all those nausea drugs.
One more fear, I have IDC, high grade, clinically presented as IBC (swelling, red mark, pain), the tumor was larger than 5cm just by my eyesight on mammogram. So, I'll also ask doc what size I actually got and if I have one tumor or several (I saw one big one and some other white areas). Nobody is telling me much, and THAT worries me. Oh, dear me, what if I'm part of a bunch that is unlikely to make it?? Will the chemo slow it for a year or so, or am I gonna die within six months? If it's the latter, just give me my pain meds and let me go. But I don't want to die. It's a bad disease, you go to hell and back and still might not make it. I keep thinking of Elizabeth Edwards. GG
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GG;
Hang on girl!! It WILL get better! I am so glad you got the thermometer but you have to still seek attention if fever is over 100 degrees as it is NOT a symptom of chemo- something else is going on! I know how the fear and anxiety is overwhelming and the sadness is what gets me most! I would suggest talking to a therapist. I am fortunate to have a non-profit cancer organization to support us. They have a therapist and offer classes like yoga and stretching while also massage therapies, healing touch, hypnotherapy, etc... Ask your oncologist for some references. This board helps but to really get to know other women to talk to is ideal! I am 37 and thought I was just the youngest one and feel so alone! Well, I am not! Please do not give up! You need to fight to get better! Do all you can to fight back and get a new Dr.!! They need to be communicating with you regularly! You need answers! I agree that the unknown is the worst! You have the right for a second opinion and I suggest you get it! I went through 3 BS and 2 oncologists until I was happy! I have my Oncologist's cell phone # and call her ANY time! I would suggest you also request ALL paperwork including pathology reports. I have everything filed and there are no mysteries! This way I can go home and google all I want to gain even more info.
My thoughts and prayers are with you as they are with everyone on here! Call your Dr. and get some answers! It will help! Take care and buy yourself some beautiful flowers!

Many hugs from West Palm Beach!
Mary
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paula66, thats my husbands tatoo, he got it a few days after my first surgery. Yes, your right the not shaving is a plus, i guess i dont handle change very well.thanks..
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OH not sure what the hell is happening here .... it's day 6 for me and I can't hardly function, I'll cry at anything even if it isn't sad ... I think I'm not suppose to be on this AC crap ... in fact, I'm not even sure why I am ,,,, it's just STANDARD or something for my grade/type/personality/size/whatever .... after day 10 it gets better? Is that how it's suppose to go? Is it normal to forget everything ... almost immediately ,,, where the next word is hard to find? I'm a mess and I thank you for listening to this because I'm sure it sounds really stupid.
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pejkug3,
I do not have a port. My doctor didn't even suggest one. I had my first treatment Wed, Feb 16. The nurse put my IV on the upper left side of my right wrist. I have to say, it was perfect. I have the tiniest, tiniest little needle mark that I have to point out or you would never even notice. No black and blue marks or itching or anything. I spent 4 hours with the IV drip, and I didn't have any issues with an IV. The same nurse gave me the Neulasta shot the next day, on the backside of my upper arm. I've heard a few people complain that it burns, but again, everything was pretty simple. Maybe I'm getting used to needle pricks--used to have such a fear of them! Sure hope that nurse is available for my other chemo treatments.
Hope your treatment w/o the port goes as easily as mine.
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Hi All,
fuzzylemon - I am day 6 out too - different regimen, but I am not feeling that great either! Don't be down on yourself. I am sure you are stressed and that combined with SE is making you forget and be emotional. I have not been sleeping - like, at all - and I am finding it is difficult to concentrate. I also have some ringing in my ears which is super annoying. I keep waiting and each day is getting a little better but I am really tired and have no appetite. So far today is my first day without diarrhea. Yay! I just fed half of my sandwich to the dog because I couldn't eat it. It is hard to guage how much fatigue is from the treatment and how much from not sleeping or eating much.
I am sure your regimen is based on your stats - if you're not sure ask your onc to explain it. The drug combination should be tailored to your hormonal receptors and tumor size/grade, as well as node status.
All you can do is take it one day (or minute!) at a time. Nobody will fault you for the way you feel right now - especially us!
I hope you feel better soon!
Kathie
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That does help a bit...thank you. I'm seriously thinking that this is too much ... that they are wrong and should really look at this one more time ... is it normal to only have blood drawn every two weeks?
How do they know if you have any cancer in there floating around? I feel like this is all happening so fast and we didn't even really talk about it ... I think I will have to call someone ... and I think these anti nausea pills have some seriously depressing stuff in them ...
hugs to all
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Hey Fuzzy~ ABSOLUTELY call your oncologist and or nurses/social worker. Call ASAP! They should be tracking your SE's and adjusting meds as needed. They should know what you're experiencing! Maybe an antidepressant (I've heard they're often prescribed during chemo, and I took them for years) would help. Maybe you're having a bad reaction to one of the steroids?
Hang in there. Get the extra help you need. Don't be afraid to ask for, no, DEMAND it! And come here to sound off about your feelings anytime. Wish I could be there to hold your hand...
Michelle
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Hello ladies,
Just checking in. I haven't been on here in a few days. I traveled to South Carolina this past weekend to visit family. Then I had my 2nd chemo treatement of TAC yesterday. My TAC regimen is Taxotere, Adriamycin and Cytoxan. And it sucks! I envy everyone who feels normal for a few days afterwards. My side effects hit me while I'm still in the chair. Mostly chest pain, which they think is GI spasms. So they feed me Maalox and it helps for a bit, but then comes back. So, since I had that problem so bad last time, they thought maybe it was the steriods and they cut that dose in half before I started. But then, this time, I had terrible nausea all night long and today. So now my ONC thinks that by cutting down on the steriods increased my nausea. So he said we will try readjusting for next time. Now, I'm just hanging in there til Saturday. That's when I started to feel better last time.
Hope everyone has a good day tomorrow!
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Hi Girlies!!!! I to was a weeping one the other day. I think its normal. Here we dont have to put on a brave front for anyone. We just get to be whatever we want. We are going through so much that sometimes its more then anyone can handle. I do go crazy when I cry, but I think I have a right to now. Go ahead and cry aeay its ok.
My daughter had gotten a tat that is a huge pink ribbon that has boxing gloves dangling from it. She also put my aunties, sissies, and my intals on it. She did this as a tribute to us gals who are survivors in the family.
Cindy I hope counts go up for ya. Its good to see your doing ok. I had a problem with the hips last week. The doc says its from the Nuelasta shot. I said even 10 days out and he says yea. He says hed give me some Vicidon but I didnt take him up on it. Mine went away after 2 days. I dont know if this helps ya or not. Good Luck.
I hope things get better for all you gals starting up with treatment. I do know from personal experence that my 2 treatment was so much better then the first. I hope it goes the same for you all as well. I think it was just a matter of getting the meds figured out.
Hang in there dogeyed. I will keep you in my prayers. I have seen some gals who had them that size and they are doing good. I know when they dont know much its mind numbing. Your going crazy cause you want answers. Hang in there. We are here for you.
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My turn now I guess. I go for my first infusion of the poison in four hours and dreading it as I'm starting to feel back to normal, mentally and physically, from mastectomy/reconstruction surgery six weeks ago. Hearing what others are going through is intimidating, to say the least! I'm hearing depression,being physically fatigued, brain in a fog, diarrhea... Not sure what to expect.
Laura
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