Diagnosed w/DCIS yesterday
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Oh Robyn, I'm so sorry about the meds. I hope you're doing a little better by now, getting off the stuff. Depression is so bad--makes everything look dark and bleak. I pray you'll get better and feel better. Let me know, ok?
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I'm great now, totally off of all the meds and I'm NOT going back on Tamoxifen. Depression is something I have a totally different view of now, a real compassion for people who suffer from it. It IS real and something I'd never experienced before. Thank you for your prayers, much appreciated!! xxoo
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robynkk, Wow, I was depressed too while on Tamoxifen...never even gave it a thought that the drug was doing that to me! I stopped taking it after 11 months because my bones hurt so much - walking up and down stairs was intense. I exercise a lot - run, bike, aerobics - but couldn't do that because of the bone pain. Hardly any pain now that I've been off the drug 3 months (except for aging pain). And, after reading your last post, it dawned on me that I'm not depressed any more either.
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I don't know why the dr's don't warn us about these side effects. I was only told that I might experience hot flashes.......argh!! So glad you are off the meds and doing good!!
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Good to hear from you, Robyn! SO glad you're feeling better. I had the option of going on Tamox. too. I opted out. Glad I did.
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Robyn: I'm glad you are feeling better! Glad you're not continuing with the Tamoxifen, too.
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dmorgan and julie,
thank you for your good wishes. Please keep me posted on how you're doing! xxoo Robyn
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Hey, Robyn: You are quite welcome.
I actually had my tissue expanders replaced with my implants two weeks ago and am healing nicely. I'm still a bit tired.
I was very fortunate; I didn't have to take Tamoxifen. However, I am still depressed from the whole experience and am seeking treatment with a therapist now (definitely not the answer for everyone).
Again, good luck to you, and I'm including this thread in my favorite topics, so I can check back with you periodically.
Julie
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julie did you have the tissue expanders put in with your original mastectomy? i had te's put in today and i am in so much pain, rx said 2 vicodin every 6 hrs but i've taken 3 and it still hurts. ps is supposed to call tonight to check on me, i'm going to ask him if i can have more paid med? i hate to take meds but i need to get this elephant off my chest. any tips on te's greatly appreciated!! xxoo robyn
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Robyn, I can't comment on the TE pain. I'm sorry you're having it!!! I opted to not have reconstruction.
Again, I'll pray for some relief for you. I know you've had a lot of ups and downs. I'm sure you will finally get there where everything will smooth out and be okay.
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Hey, Robyn: Sorry for not posting for a few days; things have been a bit crazy here. I did have te's put in after my surgery immediately; it felt like my breasts were on fire. Have you called for more pain meds?
Julie
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julie,
i have vicoden and it's working fine. i can just hear the liquid squishing around when i turn over, it's such a weird feeling. fire is a good word to describe it though. how long did you have the te's in?
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Hi, Robyn:
Glad to hear the Vicoden is working for you. I think from everything I've read, it's important to keep that pain at bay and not try to "tough it out", at least, not at this stage. My breasts felt like that for about two weeks after the initial surgery.
I had TE's in from 09/17 through 01/24. That's about 4 months. However, I had a complication whereby one of my TE's actually deflated(!) and had to be replaced. I went up a cup size, so I had them filled every two weeks for about two months. Now, I have my implants, and they feel pretty good.
Are you doing okay with your drains? I had my drains for about four weeks after, and got them removed once the output from them was less than 30 mil/day. Also, I put Neosporin on the incisions. I used several cloth belts that I had on hand and kept them pinned to those.
If you have more questions, feel free to PM me. I'll try to check daily to see how you are doing.
Julie
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Hey, Robyn:
Checking on you - hope you are feeling okay today.
Julie
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Hi Julie,
You are the best! I don't have any drains with the TE's?? I did with the original mastectomy but not now? I went to see the PS yesterday and today, I was trying to tough it out, I HATE taking pain pills, so afraid I'll get addicted to them but this elephant won't stop jumping up and down on my chest
and it burns. Took the wrap off today and BOY do I have stretch marks all over. He said he'd see me again in 3 weeks to take off the tape? I'm supposed to "massage" them and wear a tight sports bra, how do you massage a rock? They hurt to touch so I think I'll give that a wait
Are you happy with your outcome and your dr's? PS said he was going to move my right nipple over a little more to the center, whatever
Well, off to take a Vicodin so I can face 235 teenagers tomorrow
xxoo Robyn
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Robyn, I also had bmx with TEs immediately, had them in 09/29 until 1/24. I had pain for a while and also took vicodin and valium (to stop the muscle spasms). There is another discussion thread on continued tissue expander pain, you can search for that on here as well. I found it much easier after 3 weeks, and was then of course dreading the fills, which were actually pretty easy. The worst was moving around in bed or getting up/down quickly. It gets better - honest. Either that or we just get used to it! Best wishes.
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Robyn: Boy, almost missed responding to you! For some reason, I thought I'd marked this thread as a favorite, but I didn't. At any rate, I found you again.
Good luck with all of the teenagers! Sounds interesting; maybe you can fill us in on how that went.
Glad you're not dealing with drains. And, I understand about not wanting to take pain pills; agree that those are best taken in moderation.
As to the pain associated with the TE's, scubacat is correct, it does get better. The fills are uncomfortable for a few days (at least they were with me), but that should pass. Tylenol should help.
As to the massage, did your PS mean the tissue expanders themselves, or the stretch marks? I'm a bit concerned about that, because I had an extremely bad experience. I began scar massage about 4 weeks after the placement of the TE's, and the scar on the right side opened up and began to bleed. I was fortunate; we live about 10 minutes away from the PS's office and he was able to close this, but it was quite a scare! Apparently, scar massage shouldn't be done until at least 3 months after the incision has been closed, after the implants are placed again.
Yes, I am happy with my outcome. My left nipple has to be created in about 3 months, but I like the size and shape of them.
Catch you soon; am going to bed as it's 2:29 a.m. here in L.A. Take care, and I'll be back in touch.
Julie
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Robyn: Just checking on you . . . hope you are getting some rest.
Julie
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Julie what do you mean fills? I went to the oncologist on Tuesday and for some reason he thought I was back on the Tamox, I said noooooooooooooo, never. He wanted me to take something else that would probably cause muscle soreness? Well when he said Tamox would maybe cause mood swings and it made me suicidal I thought NO on the next drug. He agreed since it would only decrease my reacurance rate by 6% that he would just monitor me closely and I would go the natural path.
Have an appt. next Wed. w/the PS, I really want him to take some of the ?? saline? out, I just have these big hard rocks on my chest. Who was your PS, did you have all your treatment done in LA? I was in Santa Clarita last weekend w/my oldest daughter, love that area. Asked my PS if he could do my neck as a present to myself when he does the switch w/the implants so I'm thinking about that.
As for the massage there is NO way I can even think about it, my skin is sore to even touch my breast area so that's good to hear.
Went to try acupuncture last week, my sister swears by it. After I was done and got dressed, I put my dress on and boots, started to walk out into the hall and felt something on my ankle, stopped to unzip my boot and the Dr. said OH I guess I left a needle in............OMG
I think I'll try it one more time and see if it helps? Did you just lose one nipple? I lost the right one, well the 3D part of it, don't know how else to describe it. Can they recreate that?
Good to hear from you and everyone else! Have a great weekend!
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Hi, Robyn:
Glad to hear from you!
When I talk about "fills", I mean getting tissue expanders filled with saline. This would be done if you want to increase your cup size, which I did. What happens is the PS fills the tissue expanders once every two weeks, injecting more saline so the chest muscles are stretched. In your case, I think the PS can take some of the saline out to help alleviate some of the heaviness out of your tissue expanders, but I'm not certain about that.
My PS is Michael K. Newman. He is in Torrance, CA, and is one of three surgeons associated with Plastic Surgery Source. Their website is http://www.plasticsurgerysource.com.
Yes, Santa Clara is a neat area. I like it there, too.
Good for you, getting your neck done as a treat to yourself! When I had my replacements, I had lipo of my thighs and butt for the same reason. We deserve something for going through this!!!
I haven't had acupuncture, but if it helps you, that sounds good. A friend of mine at work has it during her noon hours several times a week, just to decompress. Yikes, though, leaving a needle in??? Yes, try it again and see how it works. It's not for everyone!
I lost the left nipple completely, and most of my areola, so they'll have to do nipple reconstruction and tatooing on my left side. I understand about losing the "3-D" portion. Yes, nipple reconstruction involves recreating a nipple from your breast tissue. I've enclosed a link so you can read more about it: http://www.breastreconstruction.org/SecondaryProcedures/NippleAreolaReconstruction.html.
Tomorrow is my first day back at work in 5 months. I'll do my best to keep checking on you; I should be able to keep up with the posts pretty well, so let me know if you have more questions.
Julie
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Hi, Robyn:
Doing okay? Just checking on you.
Julie
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hey julie, all is MUCH better this week. went to the ps on wed? and he took a LOT out so the pain level has decreased dramatically. only need about 1 pain pill per day now. they're still as hard as a rock though! next appt. in 2 weeks, originally wanted to wait till june to do the exchange because i wouldn't have to take time off work but now i'm thinking the implants would be LESS painful than these te, what do you think?
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how was it going back to work??? i forgot to ask!
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Hi, Robyn: Glad you are feeling so much better! and that your pain level is better. Yes, the implants feel much, much better, although they'll probably never feel like real breasts.
I was denied going back to work, due to a rash, would you believe! So, I go back to my G.P. Wednesday and get clearance. Oh, well, two more weeks off; that's okay.
Will check on you again very soon!
Julie
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I'm having another occurance of anxiety attacks. I went to see my GP doc and he put me on a low dose of lexapro and I've been taking some leftover ativan (she said that was okay), kind of feel like I'm crawling out of my skin again. Don't know if all this has thrown me in menapause or what?
My family has made me make an appt. with a psychiatrist on Thursday (aka the crazy dr.) i am back at work but all i want to do is sleep and cry......................this sucks!
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Robyn,
Did you experience all this before the breast cancer?
You should be out of school soon. Maybe that will help to just be able to relax.
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No none of it before breast cancer, frustrating. I've always been wrapped a little tight but not like this
I think the lexapro is working and I've cut out all alcohol, I really enjoyed wine before all of this but it just has a very negative effect on my body now. I'm really doing good now though! -
'Sounds like you're doing better. I'm glad!
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Had reconstruction in June, was okay....better than the mess before I guess! Almost off of lexapro, down to less than 5 mg 5/x, weaning myself off. Can have wine again!
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Robynkk, all great advice from the ladies above. I would only add that at this early juncture don't be too worried because until the final pathology report, the specifics of your DCIS won't be known.
In my case they suspected DCIS but only found ADH in the biopsy. Turned out with my lumpectomy they got clear and good margins, no malignancy was found, and the reason they diagnosed DCIS was because of the cell architecture of the ADH. My grade is low, 1-2. So I had a lumpectomy and after a meeting with the radiologist it was decided no radiation was needed. I said no to mastectomy and drug therapies because it felt to radical in my situation. If I ever have a recurrence and it is more advanced DCIS or invasive, I will be able to have radiation (you can only get it once on the breast treated) or a mastectomy that will be better for reconstruction. Apparently once you have had radiation on a breast the skin may not be suitable for reconstruction, but I'm only going by what others have said on this forum as I have no personal experience with that. In Canada the standard post op therapy for DCIS lumpectomy is radiation and/or Tomoxifin. But depending on the individual case neither may be necessary, so it is very important to have your assessment specific to your pathology result.
I suggest the first thing you do is ensure you have a breast surgeon that is top rated and with whom you are comfortable. It is my understanding that the radiologist (beyond the biopsy stage) and medical oncologist play their part after pathology because until then they don't know exactly what they are dealing with.
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