February 2011 chemo pals
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FEC-D Start: Jan 28/2011 Cycle 2/6 Day 3
Dogeyed..get someone to drive you to your bone scan if you can. I had my MUGA scan on Day 4 last cycle and I was so greatful to be driven since I felt so wretched. If it hadn't been so important I would have cancelled.
Countingmyblessings..I recall last round eating mostly scrambled eggs and toast Day 1,2 and 3 but by Day 4 despite feeling horrible I begged my husband to get KFC and enjoyed it immensely so the tatse buds were improving by then. My scalp was sensitive too for a week before my hair started coming out about Day 14.Then certain spots would feel even more sensitive and that's where the hair fell out most heavily to start. As for the Zophran I have been ordered 8mg twice a day so just take it when I get up and later in the evening. This is my last day for them ( Day 3)
Thundershowers..I am still on an antibiotic for my tooth extraction last Wednesday but I would still double check with your oncologist about any drugs you are unsure of.
NeyNey..I didn't experience any of the bone pain some have had on Neulasta..instead I got infected tooth pain for days! Think I'd rather have had the bone pain.
I too find the after taste of water horrendous so drink ice water in several gulps with a cherry yougurt hard candy chaser or something to kill the taste as I know we have to get lots of fluids into us.
Day 3 still feeling miserable and mentally trying to talk myself through the next 2 days as I know it gets better. Hang in everyone...
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Safari94..I bought the baseball cap hair, i actually like it better than my own since mine is very thin to start with. Thanks you for the other site, im ordering some of those scarves as well.
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Hi ladies~
I'm also new to this and have read many, many posts -- all so helpful in so many ways. I start 4 cycles of Taxotere and Cytoxan the week of March 7th. Not looking forward to it, but I'm a super proactive person and anxious to get it started so I can be done with it. Used to doing pilates, circuit and yoga 9 times a week. Obviously, that's gonna slow down but intend to still do yoga as often as possible and go to meditation group weekly. All the info on what to expect with the SEs is daunting -- but one step at a time, and one day at a time. It's heartwarming and comforting to know this type of site exists -- encouragement, support and shared info is a blessing~ Anyone else starting same type of chemo in early March?
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Hello Feb ladies,
Just a quick post to let those of you on TCH to check out the Taxotere Carboplatin Hecerptin thread.
Also - anyone on Taxotere - please remember to ice fingernails and toenails.It may seem odd, but it helps prevent later nail issues.
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Started losing my hair today. It is day 20 since starting chemo. I have been checking it everyday cause I thought it would have started falling out before now. I had shaved it when I got my "cranial prothesis", so I only have stubble anyway...
Feeling good today, just a little tired this afternoon. Go on Tuesday for my blood tests again.
Cindy
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Mauimama, I also found the the SE list daunting. The realitiy for me, tho, has been to be prepared for any of it, but only to contend with some of it. No mouth sores but do brush with Biotene, had it on hand since my son's worn braces anyway. Am one to use Tylenol for aches and pain, so nothing new there. No diareaha issues and got the flushable wipes in case but only as a precaution. Found that eating yogurt, fruit and a couple Senekot S tablets were enough prevention for constipation.
The list, tho, is wonderful in making me feel prepared for the unknown. Just had the 1st chemo, so maybe another round at another time I may have different issues to deal with.
I love that you are being so proactive with the exercising, meditation and all. I plan to join a yoga group at the Y my DH and I joined last month and plan to attend a BC support group that meets at the beginning of each month.
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I want to be honest here, too, tho, and say it is day 5 since my 1st chemo and I still don't feel quite myself; a little restless, food tastes odd and nothing much I want to concentrate on for very long. Just sayin'.
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Cindy you are luckeir then me. Mine started falling out Friday Am. By the end of the day it was worse. I just just went ahead and shaved it.
Iim sorry MrsM but it took me about 7 days to get out of the chemo fog. Also for food to taste good once again was on the off week. Hang in there.
Last Sunday I woke up with such a pain in my lower back I couldnt stand it. I finally got thru it. The doc says its more then likely pain from the shot. I was surprised to hear it last that long. But that was the only pain I every had.
Get better soon all!
Chemo started 2/4/11 4x AC cycle 2/4
Diagnosis: 10/24/2010, IDC, 2cm, Stage II, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2- -
Hi everyone, I just want to let you all know that you will get through this, it may not be easy at times but you can do it. I had my last chemo Sept 22, 2010 and I am finally not wearing my wig. If you ever want to ask a question, just private message me and I will respond. Good luck on your journey. You are all in my prayers.
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Hi Ladies! I've been without a computer for a few days. What a lot of catching up to do! We are all having such different experiences.
Is anyone else doing chemo BEFORE surgery? I am opting for mastectomy of my right breast with immediate DIEP reconstruction using skin/fat from my belly. Lining up BS and PS schedules meant doing chemo firs, at least the AC part. Don't know if I'll have to follow sugery with Taxol.
Anyway, tomorow morning is my second chemo "date". I've been feeling great. With any luck, I'll get through this next one and the rest without more SEs.
After reading everyone's posts regarding SEs I can say I DID experience a few, though very mild. I DID have some pretty bizarre dreams! Tongue and tastebuds had a day or two of feeling numb. Wanted to eat everything in sight for a few days (probably steroid related). I was very energetic while on the steroids and woke up super early a few mornings. Had wierd lower back muscle spasms around days 10-12. That's about it.
My hair is still hanging in there. I'll see how I feel later this week, then will probably ask my stylist to buzz it short. I got one of those beautiful velvet wraps, and a few knit cotton rolled-brim caps, then bought some big funky flowers to pin to each. But I'm holding out for the real fur trapper's hat witht the ear flaps! It's bitter cold here in central New York, so no-one will think it weird that I wear it everywhere.
Goodnight sweet princesses!
Michelle
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Michelle does Lady Gaga.
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Paula, thanks for the heads up about chemofog; I'll be patient with myself....this morning I'm feeling a bit better.....
charlottesmamma, my chemo has begun before surgery; depending on how neoadjuvant chemo goes, will see whether I'll have a lumpectomy or mastectomy. Odd, before I found I had bone mets, I worried about losing my breast, now it is all about saving my life......
I also had/have some numbing of the mouth.
And wondered how long the chemo circulates in the body. Is it still working day 6 after the 1st treatment? Does it eventually get flushed out and then replaced by next treatment?
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I've enjoyed reading the foods and drinks that work well. Thurs chemo and Friday were fine, and then Saturday, as I wrote before, I had night terrors, and then, all over AGAIN last night, Sunday, I kept waking up over and over. I'm glad I'm not the only one. I was quite feverish, but when I finally got up this morning to go to hospital for another scan, the fever broke. I also feel like I've been beaten with a baseball bat. I ate chicken noodle soup with extra noodles last night, husband fixed it for me, soup was SO good and comforting. Most everything tastes wierd, tho. Real dry mouth, which I drink tons of water as a habit anyway, so that's working out. Today I'm going to skip all my antinausea meds, gotta get back into a normal sleep pattern. I didn't know it would be this hard. GG
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lonne - Tell me about the baseball hair. I play golf all the time and it would be great! Is it in the TLC catalogue? My hair began shedding today, and don't know when it will end, if at all. Thanks for the info.
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Hi All,
Friday/Saturday rough, Sunday OK, today feeling low. I have walked 2 miles all days and generally feel better after doing that. Did not go today because I have a really bad headache. This happened middle of Fri. night as well and I ended up taking a Vicodin. Thinking of doing the same in a few minutes. I have not had any appetite - just eating because I know I have to. Food tastes fine I just don't want any!
Pain from Neulasta not too bad - I did take Claritan. Last night stiff in the hips but no big deal. I have not taken any anti-nausea drugs for a couple of days because I haven't needed it and Zofran carries a headache warning. I also have pretty strong ringing in my ears, an SE of the Carboplatin.
I am thinking I am going to have to do something about sleep but I am not sure what because I am not getting a whole lot. I doze off and then wake up, doze off and wake up... I can't blame it on steroids because I haven't taken any other than what was in the drip. I am hopeful that I will start to come out of this tomorrow as the onc directive is day 3-5 feeling yuck - that is up tomorrow!
For hats with hair check out www.hatswithhair.com they have some options.
Taking it one day at a time...
Kathie
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I do the same thing w/ sleep- off and on night after night. Every now and then I'll sleep a full night. It's exhausting.
Had chemo last Wed (2/16). Today's been tough- and lots of bone pain all over. I still have no appetite, but make myself eat. I feel the mouth sores in my mouth. If I take pain meds, then I get constipated. Then if I take something even minor to help, crampy diarrhea. Agony.
Sure hope it gets better. It's exhausting.
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LisaGH I hope it gets better for you. I know the treatment before last was similar to yours. It does get better. I know when I talked with the doctor last he told me to take all my anti-nausea pills at the same time and that helped me this go around. Hang in there.
I am just plane wiped out today. I did way to much yesterday and I think that was a bad idea. I even had to leave work early. I hate doing that. Im sorry but Im gonna get on a big pity pot right now. This sucks!!! I have always been able to take care of what needed to be done until now. I feel like a big worthless blob. My house looks like crap, I feel like crap and again my husband has to do without again because of me,UGH!!!! I hate this crap. I couldnt even work without going home. Heck I remember the day when I could weld circles around any guy and out worked them. Now I cant even work 8 hrs at a paper pushing job, GRRRRRR. Ok enough time to pull the big girl patties up and deal with it. Thanks for listening girls!
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Dear sweet Paula, please, please be much much easier on yourself. If you've been married 16 years, I know your DH is able to fend for himself; you don't have to take care of everyone else all the time. I work a part-time job. For chemo I am taking my chemo day off which is Wednesday, plus the next two days and the weekend and allowing myself all the recouperation time I need. Today I was off since it was President's Day, and tomorrow I might get a snow delay or cancellation, and I am not gonna sweat it! This is OUR HEALTH and OUR LIVES. We deserve to give ourselves the time and patience we need to heal.
All that paperwork, it will be there waiting for you when you feel up to it. I am keeping you on my priority prayer list, please practice tender loving care for yourself. Your house will get straightened around when you feel better. Allow yourself to ask for help, and allow yourself to RECEIVE help from those around you who love you. Our self-worth doesn't come simply from what we are able to do for others. Rest. Rest. Rest.
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thanks for the support- i feel the same as you all.
i just wish i could shake this headache and get some sleep!
it takes time to heal- for sure.
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Hi,
LisaGH,
Do you have anything strong to take for pain - it may take care of the headache and allow you to sleep. If you don't you might need to ask for something. I have so many scrips for Vicodin I could open my own store. I only ever filled the first one from the BMX, and I have 2/3 of it left, but they wrote me a new one for each of the four subsequent surgeries. Did you take Claritan before Neulasta, or is your bone pain from the TX? Also, have you been gargling with the baking soda/salt/water deal? Or Biotene?
Being exhausted is exhausting, isn't it? Here's hoping tomorrow is better.
Paula - take it easy on yourself girl! I am sure you are doing the best you can under the circumstances! Nobody expects you to be able to do everything you could before, and it will be no time until you are back to being able to, so don't worry.
Kathie
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Good evening ladies. I'm sorry to read that some of you are having a tough go of it. Hang in there and get the rest you need and the meds you need. By all means, the meds!
I had round 2 this morning. Port worked like a charm. NP and Onc both think the mass in my right breast feels softer and abit smaller after just one round. Yippee!!! Ate a big burger at Red Robin, got home and took a nap.
Feeling fine so far. I'm doing everything exactly the same as last round. Took my Claratin since I have Neulasta shot tomorrow. Oh yeah, my WBC was 0.9 as of last Thursday, but everything was back ro normal this morning. Hair still hanging on too, but NP said this will be the week. *sigh* It's so cold here!
Sweet dreams,
Michelle
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LisaGH-we seem to be having the same difficulties. I started TCH on 2/15. I was okay for a few days but I've been in agony since yesterday. The bone pain was so bad from the neulasta shot that I didn't get any sleep at all last night. Aleve seems to be helping somewhat today. I've got terrible crampy diarrhea for the second day in a row and between the two issues and being tired I just don't know how I'm going to do this 5 more times. I have to go in for Herceptin in the morning...I hate this right now!
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Thanks girls for the prayers and words. I have always been able to get thru whetever season he has had in store for me. This one has just been the toughest so far. I just gotta be able to say I do need help and thats a rough one to do for me. I think its also due to my Aunt Flo coming soon and sometimes she makes me weepy. Dang her, lol. Well girls Im gonna go fix a light snack and see if I can just put this all to bed for the night.
BTW Michelle, I'm glad your doing good.
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Pejkug3;
I also had a lumpectomy with aux node. I'm still healing as well, but my oncologist and BS said it is ok to start. Maybe you need to ask your Breast Surgeon what he thinks just to be sure. It might give you peace of mind. Good luck on the 24th!
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hey ladies,
HANG IN THERE WE CAN DO THIS!
Paula, my house is a wreck as well but that is low on the priority list. I did not make it through a full day at work even paper pushing for a few days and didn't feel the chemo fog was completely gone until day 8, but we are fighting and it still is not as bad as I expected. I was glad to have today off was tired but was able to go out each day for a lithe while. hang in there and take care of yourself. The best advice I was given was that I was going to have to accept I cannot do what I am used to and resting and getting better is the first priority.
I think the compazine really knocked me out the first day. The headache is not as bad this round. Hair is shedding a lot. I wore a scarf out today as I was self conscious about the thinning parts. Wig not in until WEDNESDAY UGGG. Guess I am wearing a hat scarf to work tomorrow. Think I need to get cut shorter washing it - i get tangled in hair as it falls out.
I agree that being exhausted is exhausting...I am used to high energy levels and going to the store can send me to the couch. The good news is on round one I felt great for days 8-14, hoping that repeats this round.
DivineM you nave some great advice for all of us thank you.
Thank you all for all the sharing and welcome to our new posters.
{{{HUGS}}}}
Jean -
There are two organizations, cleaningforareason.com and cleaningforacause.org, that will clean your home for free. My sister told me about this. I have not called them yet, but just thought I'd put it out there in case someone wants to take advantage of this service.
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It's a good idea to let your children see that you a capable of RECEIVING help from others. They need to see the concern others have for you, and to see that love in action. We teach our children by example. If they were going thru a tough time, you would want them to receive assistance from others. Show them how to do that graciously and appreciatively.
It's my DH, our teenage son and I in our house. We've always taken care of ourselves and helped others. Since my Dx, and especially now with treatments upon me, I have asked for and allowed others (family & friends) to help. Hey, it makes them feel good. It makes my DH and DS feel they do not have to carry all the burden. For my 1st treatment, my sister asked several times could she drop dinner off. Now, we certainly could have ordered take-out, but I knew she wanted to show her support. And I said, yes, please send over dinner, and she arrainged a beautiful cooler full of pasta, salad, desert and beverages; it was sitting on the back porch when we came home from the hospital. And it really made us feel more loved than getting Dominoes Pizza from across town.
I also asked another sister to drive me an hour back to the hospital the next day for that Neulasta shot, took just minutes, and they said I could have even driven myself, but I am allowing others to help me. It's just important for DH and DS to know we have a support system and that it works and that there are truly caring, loving, kind individuals who want to help from the goodness of their heart.
I'm feeling okay now, about a week out from treatment. But thru the next cycle, I'm gonna allow myself to ask for help again. Being superwoman never really impressed me.
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Hello all! I am so sorry that I dont have it in me to read everything right now ... but this is day 5 for me after the Red Devil Chemo ... and I am just not feeling well ... very depressed yesterday, appetite is there for a second ... all I want is ice cream and I'm so dizzy and weak I can't stand it. I will get fluids, and more fluids right now ... I'm not special right ... I can work my way through this ... maybe I should call some one ... is it the drugs that really make me that sad?
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Yes, Fuzzy, call someone, even a friend to come by will help, or call the nurses who have been giving you your drugs.
Emily, thanks for the advice about getting a driver to bone scan, wish I had listened. I veered over there, parked illegally half on the curb, and they gave me a shot and told me to come back in four hours for the scan. I about died, it took everything I had to get there, but I felt better by the time I went back. I only have to do chemo now, my first one last Thursday (it's Tuesday now, I take it every two weeks).
Charlottesmama, in answer to your question, I am doing chemo before surgery too. I wanted surgery first, but doc says wouldn't have enough margins left, and I don't even want to save my boob (I'm 60 years old). I am going to try to convince my doc after the AC portion of the AC and T chemo, that he do the surgery, becuz I just don't see how I'm going to make the additional five months of T chemo.
Paula, I am also glad you said it took seven days to come out of chemo fog, plus I also had back pain just like you...altho I didn't have a shot there, rather it's where I hurt my back in a car wreck years ago. My house is worrying me too, like so many of you, such a mess, so my husband told me the last thing I need to worry about is this silly house.
THE DEFINITION OF MISERY This is where I want to depart from my responses to you girls and tell you how I REALLY feel. Ladies, I don't know if it's my age of 60 or if it's because I haven't been as fit as I used to be on account of I'm disabled by a crushed back from a car wreck (I can walk, it just hurts all the time). But as I've said before, I've been getting night terrors, fever burning me up when I wake a 3 a.m., my old back injury is absolutely killing me, and I wimper from the misery of it all. The first couple days out from my first AC chemo, I was okay, but then it reared its ugly head and bit me, night after night. Four days out, I have taken NONE of my antinausea stuff, so I can just get on a regular schedule with my regular pills (I take stuff for my back, panic disorder, etc.). As a result, at least once I wake up good in the morning, and fortunately my bowels are fair, I am only dealing with how SORE I am in my body. The fever is always very bad and feels just like a dreadful flu in the middle of the night. AWFUL.
When I go back in for next chemo, I'll talk to the nurses about this awful ache I have, the medicine I'm taking is not getting rid of it, and I already take some pretty good stuff for all that. Plus I MUST get a thermometer, but I can tell you this, they would have had me in the ER the first bad fever I got... but I'd rather be home. Sigh. Plus my boob has hurt all thru this, still does. I'll have to read what the "older crowd" is saying at some point, see if they're on life's last leg, too. But of course I want to stay here, too, as we're in the same time frame and having similar reactions to chemo. GG
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