February 2011 chemo pals
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Salma stay with us to make the waiting easier. I did the same with the January girls and learned a lot. You can join the march group when it forms and travel with both. The mote support the better.
Hair is definitely shedding today, I can't stop running my fingers through it. I went for a shorter cut last haircut once I knew chemo was coming, and added bangs as wig prep. Not sure about shaving yet, typically my neck skin cannot handle just the clean up buzz on my neck if I get a sorter cut. So I alway get cuts that do not require any buzzing.
For those starting I am finding regular small meals / snacks are helping. I have to remind myself to eat. Some things that work for me day one and 2. Whole wheat toast and hard boiled egg, ensure, scrambled eggs, most not to spicy soups, cantaloupe, crackers and figs.
I think taking the compazine day one helped a lot. Hardly any queasiness since then. First round queasy day 1-2 but did not think enough for breakthrough, may rethink that next round.
All fevers are not good for us - my onc gave a limit of 100.5. Then I must call in no matter what time.
Made first appointment with radiation oncologist. They want to seem about midway through the chemo. Next step on the journey!
Enjoy the day, hope everyone feels better.
Jean
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Dear Michelle... Sooooooooooo sorry for just bumping into your message in my message box.. I feel so sorry for not seeing it earlier... I am not used to this discussion board.. please check your message box for my reply... Tried to attach a photo but failed ;-")
And thank you jean for your support... I guess I will be the one inaugurating the March group discussion ;-)
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Salm you are more the welcome to stay right here. I just hope that you can get it all cleared so you can be on your way. Hand in there girl. Your time will come. You sure dont want any infections haning around that could go in the wrong direction.
Mary you sure have been through it also. Hang in there. I didnt go all the way bald I did stubble. I wasnt ready for the smooth look. I find it easier to let the stubble go then my longer hair.
Good to see your doiing good Cindy. The 2 treatment seem to be be on us all. Ir is it we just know what to look for. Take care all. Im gonna go rest a bit.
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Safari Sorry for all you have been through. Glad you are healing and that you can have your 2nd treatment next week. Hoping all goes well for you now...
Salma Wow waiting is the hardest part huh... We will not kick you out of the Feb disscussion board. You are always welcome no matter when you start Chemo. We are all in this together....
Just sitting here waiting for my granddaughters (2 1/2 and 9 months) to show up. They always cheer me up.
Cindy
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Paula66;
That was so sweet of you son to say he'd shave his head till your hair grows back! What a great kid! My 10 year old son said he'd get a crew cut when I get one, but I told him he didn't have to. He did help me pick out my wig which i was grateful for since kids are very truthful about what looks good or doesn't. Thank God for those we are blessed with in our lives! How could we do this without them!
I'm starting TC Feb 28th. Thanks for all the advice for my chemo bag. Have just about everything ready to go! BTW, what do you use to shave your hair? Does a ladies electric razor work or do you need to use the kind in the barber shops?
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Pejkug3
Looks like we will be starting similar treatments a few days apart. I'm starting TC on Feb 28th. Keep me posted. Are you confirmed for Feb 24th yet? Best of luck!
To all: You gals are all great and have helped me get my head around starting my treatments. I have been reading your posts for a couple of weeks now and they are really helping. Thanks a bunch! Best of everything to all of you!
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Safari, so sorry about your ordeal!
It is mind boggling what life sometimes throw our way. And then adds to it. Hope the sadness doesn't last and you pull yourself up again soon...
Sending some warm thoughts your way!
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Chemo - TCHx6 start 2/17/11 cycle 1/6 day 3 next tx 3/10/11
Hi All,
OK - let's redefine mild flu-like symptoms! My onc described it as a really bad hangover - he was pretty right. I ran a low grade fever last night, not really hungry but did manage to eat a little. My head felt like it was in a vice and I had (overshare coming!) problems from both ends. Because I physically can't throw up it really hurt. I was having such a problem that I actually counted my Zofran to see if I just thought I had taken it and really had not! I had a piece of toast and some tea and took the next scheduled one and seem to be OK for now. The way they explained the anti-nausea meds is if the first one doesn't work go to the next - do I do that right away, even if I have taken the first one only an hour or two before? I just went out for a walk with the dog and DH and about half way got that salty wet feeling in my mouth but didn't heave. I can already feel that taste changes and smells are stronger. I am nervous about taking all these meds with not enough food in my stomach but after the toast I did take a vicodin to try to stop the headache. Yesterday Tylenol was enough but not today.
Jean - I ran the B6 and all the other stuff by my onc and he said it was OK. I have some paranoia about neuropathy because my mom had a huge problem with it. She did not have BC but a degenerative neuromuscular disease that was treated with Prednisone and Methotrexate for an extended period of time. Eventually she had zero feeling in her hands and feet permanently.
Paula and Cindy - glad your 2nd tx went better - we are all on a learning curve and have to figure out what works and what doesn't. I love that we can share info and encouragement.
Salma - stay with us - the waiting is tough. I was supposed to be January but had to slide back too!
Safari -- OMG! You poor thing! At least the appendix is out - you probably will feel generally better because it was most likely cooking in there for a while. What crazy timing though!
I realized that on the next TX the hair will most likely be going or gone. I am ambivalent about the wig I bought. It looks like my old hair for the most part but I don't really like it, especially now that my hair is cut so short and people seem to really like it. I might have to get another shorter one. The woman next to me at the tx said she has a bunch and had to keep getting new ones (cheapies) to find what suited. I bought mine after a consult but by the time it was over I was kind of OK, let's get this one and be done with it. I haven't sent in the hair I had cut off to the underhair lady yet. It is a short turnaround on that and I have enough scarves, hats and the wig. I did notice that the ladies coming in for treatment had nice wigs, makeup, etc. The ones who didn't seemed to be quite a bit older and they just were wearing hats. I am supposed to go to a bridal shower right about the time it should be coming out in clumps, ugghhh. My hairdresser said to shave it with an electric but be careful because the scalp will actually hurt, so try not to drag the razor surface across the skin. Not looking forward to it.
I keep telling myself I can power through this and it is all temporary. I am adopting it as my new mantra.
Hang in everybody!
Kathie
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P.S. On the tightness of the TE - absolutely it feels different. I only have the one remaining and it is also the side with the node dissection and it feels really weird, like tight and pulling. Very strange!
Kathie
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FEC-D Start: Jan 28/2011 Cycle 2/16 Day 2
Special K..there are some wig shops and hairdressing places that have expertise in styling/ cutting wigs so if you don't like your wig that might be an option?
Day 2 of cycle 2 is going okay.Feel like crap and less appetite than last round Day 2 so I guess each round really CAN be different.Chemo fog is worse than last time I think.
Hope everyone is hanging in there. A bad hangover sounds like a good description.
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Emily -
The one I bought is actually the heat-tolerant synthetic kind. I can flat iron or blow dry and change the style. I just haven't messed with it enough. When I got my hair cut really short I took it with me to the salon - my hairdresser cut the front of it so it looked more like the front of my own hair. For some reason I have just been avoiding it. Probably because engaging with it means I really have to face the hair loss. I am of the ostrich mentality at the moment! Although I have shopped for all the stuff, and I know it is coming, I just don't want to think about it yet. I have become a very one- day- at- a- time, helps me deal!
Kathie
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Hello,
I was diagnosed in January, and am starting neoadjuvant chemo Feb 25, 4 cycles of TAC. So glad to find this forum! It helps to learn from the experiences and perspectives others. Good luck to all.
Carole
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Kathie;
I know the feeling! I am on day 16 and all of my hair is falling out! I just had my boyfriend chop it off to my chin and feel SOOOO much better! I have 2 fabulous wigs and beautiful scarves, it's just facing the reality of the situation to go there
My wig place was awesome and she told me to come in at the 2 wk mark to get it shaved. I have an appt for Mon but it is going to be so difficult. I just keep hoping and praying that I am the 1 person that just 'sheds' and doesn't lose it all
Just so wish I could be stronger! Cheers to being Bald and FABULOUS ladies!Thanks for all the well wishes - it is amazing to have support!
Mary
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safari, that is one heck of an appendectomy story!
This is day #4 for me and my bones hurt. At times it felt like I was hit by the proverbial mack truck. I can only take tylenol as I'm allegric to aleve and advil (ibuprofen). Nurse said vicodan could be perscribed if necessary, but I don't see that happening. Did manage to grocery shop at Walmart with DH early but it wore me out. I didn't take many anti nausea meds at first. But I am not going to "tough" anything out! I took some tonite and I think it's helping. Am not much of a medicine taker as it is, so I have to get used to taking something to relieve mild discomfort.
I find taking two Senekodt S tablets at night helps rather well with the constipation problem. Have been eating Activia, oranges and bananas too. Water tastes terrible but better with a lemon slice.
Re: wigs. I tried on a ton and they all looked terrible. It was actually funny, I looked like I was dressing up as Witchy Poo for halloween. Went several places where everyone else tried on wigs that all looked great on them. Finally found one me and my sister both agreed would work.
The little old lady who sold it to me suggested wearing the wig for a couple weeks to allow it to mold to the shape of my head before I decided to do anything to it like cut or shape it around my face. That sounded like good advice.
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TheDivineMrsM:
Yeah - Horrendous!! I just thank god it was not chemo effects! I was blah and things tasted horrible but otherwise, fine! Hopefuly round 2 is the same or better! My bones did start to hurt a lot on day 4 but not sure if that was chemo. I too hate to take pills so although they suggested I take claritin, I only did for 2 days and should have for longer. My foot bones even hurt to walk - crazy!
I think you should be sure you love your wig before you lose the hair! I have 2 that I love and I am still full of anxiety about wearing them
I ordered 3 scarves from this place and they are beautiful!http://www.4women.com/fabrics/silk
Think I am in denial and will only wear them at home but... I also ordered these baseball caps:
http://www.hatsforyou.net/servlet/the-Baseball-Cap-with-Hair/Categories
Haven't received them yet but thinking I will wear them the most!
Good luck - look forward to keeping in touch!

Happy thoughts to all from sunny West Palm Beach!
Mary
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Another SE I'm noticing: my face is super oily. Is anyone else experiencing this?
Shining,
Liza
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Salma;
Stay on the Feb Board. I'm starting Chemo one day before you 2/28th, so we can compare notes. If it were a leap year you would still be in Feb!
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Dear M1nn1e, Sounds great! (ok that sounds weird...to say great about our experience!)--- Good luck next Sunday!
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Hi All,
I am TCH as well and started on 2/11/11. On Day 4 I had a strung out kinda shaky feeling like too much caffeine or low blood sugar. Day 8-10 stomach cramps and diarrhea really bad at night. Sounds like a delayed reaction but I think its food choice. Maybe dairy is a bad thing... Everything tastes funky. Water not so good. Any idea's?
All in all be it was not as bad as I thought. My counts are totally normal.
Take care.
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M1nn1e - my 2/24 start date is confirmed.
But the post about needing to heal up post surgery got me thinking - I had lumpectomy and axillary node dissection. I developed a seroma after that. It's not infected or anything and the fluid draining is almost completely gone. But I have an open wound still. SHould I be starting chemo?
Maybe I should heal completely first? That could be a while though...a good two weeks or more, I think.
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TCH round 1- 2/16/11-
Went to sleep earlier,but now wide awake at 1am. Hips are hurting. Went down and made myself drink part of an instant breakfast w/ milk. Ate a banana popsicle too. Those just taste good for some reason.
I took 2 tylenol- will see if that helps. I do not have nausea, but the dull headache still comes and goes. Guess others are having that too- it's now feeling low on my head near my neck. Anyone else have that?
The pain in the hips I am sure is neulasta. It's on both sides of my body.
I hate to take pain meds- but I did use my pill splitter to cut one in 4ths (it only takes a little to help me- too much & I'm zonked). I have lost a pound or two but trying to eat. Started out at 108 or so and now down to 106.
I can eat a few bites of food, then I just can't stand it- and I don't want to get nauseated. I was on steroids twice a day tues-thurs (one day before and one day after taxotere), then once a day fri and sat. Now I am off. Scared about today.
Hope I can get back to sleep. At least my family is sleeping. I did get a few hours of sleep earlier.
My tissue expanders are still tight. I did ask the doctor about the chemo- my docs said they could start about 3 weeks out. I was 3 weeks and 4 days out. My tissue expanders are not as tight today as they were. My worst symptom today is that hip pain.
THx for the support.
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Hello Dolls,
I posted an hour ago in the IDC forum under 2011 Sisters thread, but realize now I probably should have posted here. Guess I'll see which one gives me most helpful responses, feel free to read the one I put over there.
The chemo from Thursday and nausea pills went well until six hours ago when I woke up on the couch at midnight, having slept who knows how long, and went to bed and had awful scary awake nightmares, if that's possible. Finally took a pain pill, eventually got up, husband watching horror flick on TV, so I ate, fed dogs, took my regular pills (bad back from car wreck), and came back here. Is this normal, to be totally wasted and wake up in the middle of the night? My legs felt really heavy, I ache all over, a lot like flu, no thermometer to take temp but not warm. I'm getting ready to take an antinausea pill that makes me sleep, just waiting for sun to come up because I'm afraid of dark.
GG
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FEC-D Start: Jan /28 2011 Cycle 2/6 Day 3
Dogeyed...if you are on Decadron that may keep you awake..as I am..but going to bed now. Tired but having trouble sleeping at times. I recall having bad dreams last round of chemo so probably all the anti- nausea pills or chemo drugs...going to try to sleep now..after 6 am here. Feeling flu-ish here too...with hot flashes and then chills but I went through this last time the first few days..never had an elevated temp. Hope you can sleep too...try to get yourself a thermometer. It's quite important as you need to call the doctor if it gets to 38 C (100.4 F ) and stays there for an hour..or gets to 38.3 ( 101 F) ..at least that's what I was instructed.
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Just wanted to add that I was told not to take any fever medication such as tylenol or aspirin etc ( no NSAIDS) unless I was certain I did not have a fever as you don't want to mask a fever that is warning you that have an infection.
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Hi dogeyed. Im with Emily on this one. The Decadron could be the issue. The flu like systems I also had as well. I took my temp several times. but no fever, just the feeling like I did. Hang in there the days do get better.
LisaGH how long have you had your TE? It took me 3 weeks post BMX before the tightness went away then I had no issues with them after that. If its from a fill I cant help you there. I havent been for a fill yet. From what I've heard that a fill can cause tightness for a few days aswell.
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Thanks Emily and Paula. I feel much reassured. I've got a choice with three antinausea pills, no Decadron, but probably one of them is indeed doing this! Hooray! Today I shall take my regular pills, and throw in one of each kind whenever I dose, and that way I'll know which one to stop. I'm on the AC chemo, T to come. Never thought I'd be dragging, but I think once I sort thru my drugs, I'll get it straight. Husband went thru this about 15 years ago and said he was wore slam out too. I'll also find out if indeed a few days after each chemo, I'll fall apart no matter what nausea pills I take. Hmmmm. Talk about feeling all over the place. And I have to go to hospital tomorrow for bone scan, wish I could cancel. Thanks again! I'll post back soon after I've gotten today straight and have read some of you all's notes, so I'll be up-to-date with everyone. GG
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I'm up early again this morning. The past three days, I've been waking up at 1:30 a.m. and 3:30 a.m. (almost on the dot) from my stomach bothering me. Yesterday, I feel like I started to taste things again a little better. I have been hungry--it's the same feeling I recall from when I was pregnant, always hungry, but my stomach was always kind of unsettled. Is that the effects of the steroid meds, always feeling hungry? I had lots of ramen soup (for breakfast and for lunch--sooo soothing) and weighed in heavier at my Neupogen shot (I had been worried about losing weight). All that liquid made a difference, haha.
I craved, had and enjoyed pizza for dinner last night. I was knocked out on the couch early again afterwards, but it's hard to tell if it is from being more tired on day 5 compared to day 4, or if it is from having woken up at 3:30 yesterday morning.
I know it's too early for any hair stuff to be going on, but my scalp seems to feel sensitive.
Those of you who are taking Zofran...my bottle says to take 3 times daily "as needed." The pharmacist told me to take it before breakfast, lunch and dinner. When I first started taking it, I was taking it at 6am, 12pm, 6pm, because that was about when I was actually eating. But with my different eating/sleeping schedule, I'm wondering. Do I stay on the clock schedule, or do I take it before each meal I eat? What are you doing?
MARY: Please tell us how the baseball caps with hair turn out to be. I'm curious.
Love and light,
Liza
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Trinity, water with lemon slices seemed to make the taste more doable for me. Also, I drank Canada Dry ginger ail. Lots of stuff tastes odd. Picked up some Country Time lemon flavored hard candy which weren't too bad, either.
Dogeyed, my first several nights after chemo were kind of whacked out, too, and then I took Ativan the dr. perscribed at night to sleep and I think it helped. Had to get over the hesitation of taking meds to help thru this process.
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Just had my port put in Friday (2 days ago). Not fun, but not as bad as I thought. It does pinch and bother me a bit. but mostly scared my pup will jump on it and rip it out! Start my first chemo (TAC X6) on Tues. Nervous, but wanting to get this chemo stuff working on those rogue cells that I just know are floating around in there.
I have Keflex that I was prescriped after the port implant - is it ok to keep taking during chemo? Also, it is ok to take Loritab (which I take for shoulder pain after a bad accident I had 2 years ago) and Xanax (which I need). Also, I will be looking into Ativan myself, as I am not sleeping well at all.
Hope you are all hanging in there. Fingers crossed that Tues. is not as bad as I think it might be.
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Divine Mrs. M....I, too, am not one for meds. I can't take anything but Tylenol because I'm on Coumadin for blood clots that were found after my BMX. Today, Day 14 I expected to see hair falling out but feel like someone beat me with a baseball bat....also, the small bones in my feet hurt to walk. Guess I thought this would be last week and I'd be looking at hair loss today. Quite the contrary. Since my WBC were at zero at the beginning of the week, I'm glad that the Neulasta is "making those babies" for me, but oh ouch! I quit taking the Claritin after 5 days, onc said it was up to me...some take it the whole time, some only the week of chemo. SInce Claritin in the past has given me bodacious headaches, I quit taking it. Maybe too early. Started on that again last night since second treatment is tomorrow. I have decided to take my anti-nausea meds as well...perhaps that will help with eating and WBC for the next time. Anyone else experience the bone pain (hips, shoulder joints, shoulder blades, neck, feet, fingers) this late in the week?
Safari...what a story!!!!!! so sorry!!!!
Liza, I also compared the sick and nauseated feeling to those of morning sickness. I kept something on my stomach at all times, smells as well as movement could make me nauseated and popsicles and unsweetened tea tasted best to me. Food cravings also were a laugh, my husband joked about having to eat grilled cheese and chicken noodle soup at every meal. Baked potatoes also tasted good to me. I even had a craving for french fries one night...Cold canned peaches helped with the dry mouth and felt good going down! Put them over frozen vanilla yogurt and they were even better. Chic-fil-a milkshakes tasted really good. I had been doing Canada Dry prior to chemo but it had a weird taste after starting chemo. Fresca seemed to work for me. I seem to lose 3-4 pounds then when I feel like eating gain some back. I was able to exercise week 2--not to normal capacity but helped me feel better. More concerned with eating and fulfilling what my body needs and how my clothes fit....will worry about getting totally back to my pre-cancer body after we're all done....new boobs and all!
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