Bottle 'o Tamoxifen
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Went to Chili's and it was soooo good. Had the sirloin steak & veggies ( guiltless menu) and lots of their wonderful blackberry ice tea. I am stuffed and really sleepy about now. But, dinner would not be complete without dessert.
I am in the mood for cheesecake and I brought enough for everyone.
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Got a call from my nurse awhile ago.. She said the MRI results came back and they could not see a spot. It was there in January, but Thursday it did not show up. She said it could have been something from the surgery that showed up on it in January, since I had just had the surgery Dec. 23rd. Anyway...she said no biopsy.......so I am breathing a sigh of relief and don't have to wait the whole weekend to find out!! I will call the oncologist Monday to find out when he wants me to start back on the tamoxifen, and be on my way about all that.......
Hugs, and have a good night. I work weekend nights, so getting ready to head out the door soon.
Paula
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PAULA. wonderful news! so good to hear. Have a good night!
JO Glad you enjoyed dinner and that dessert looks might fine!
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sunange - great news. Enjoy your weekend.
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Oh my! Had 4 pages to read through! Wow.
Lots of new people...hello all!!! and Jo you are on FB.....pm me and I will send you a friend request!!
and anyone else I may have missed who would like to hook up on FB as well.
Ok, funnily, things I'm dealing with I read here in these 4 pages....
June, I just went to the podiatrist Tues because I noticed about 5 weeks ago that my toenail on my right foot had not grown. I always paint a french style manicure and noticed the left toe (and all the little baby toes,lol) had grown out quite a bit and looked in need of new paint. BUT, the right big toe looked perfect and the same length as when I painted them....approx 2 months before. No growth whatsoever and looked like I had just painted. I then looked a little closer and noticed my cuticle was away from my nail and a bit puffy and pink. Not much pain and haven't had that much since either. Just mild pain if I wear a shoe that is too tight there. Cuticle is still swollen. Nothing is helping. The Pod. clipped part of my nail off and sent to check for fungus. Won't know for 2 weeks. Never had anything like this ever.
Hope it's not fungus, doesn't look like anything funky but the nail is lifting farther down underneath then it should?? So bummed...I'm a girly girl and always have my nails nice...ugh. I'm guessing my immune system was down also...this all happened right around my BMX surgery.
Almost cute sandal, flip flop and open toed shoe warm weather season coming up and guess I'll be bandaid toe girl this summer.
Superficial I know, sorry....especially with cancer dx but gah...just one more thing. I went for my hist and phys for exchange surgery yesterday and the nurse told me I should probably have some antibiotics if it doesn't resolve in the next week just in case it's infection. Don't want an infection going before surgery. So making another call to the Pod. monday to see about that..................
Anddddd, I had a really unusual first period on Tamox. To recap, my bloodwork came back showing anemia in Dec (was normal in Sept) but it was within days of my period. I'm wondering if my period's are actually heavier then they should be? I know that in last few years they've changed a bit. Really heavy (like changing every hour...to every 2 hours, for 2 days...then mostly nothing) And this period I just had was more like 3 1/2 days of very heavy bleeding and lots of clots (sorry TMI I know
)....not usual for me. I would sometimes have clots but not for 3 days. Weird. I read online that "normal" period blood loss is approx 1-6 oz. Well, I would estimate this last one was about 30 or more.....no wonder I'm anemic!!...anyone else with something like this after taking Tamox? ...and so soon after taking? I'm not even on full dose yet.
I go for followup bloodwork this coming week for onco to check...I don't even know what else, can't keep up ,lol, but do know one of the tests is to see if the iron pills are helping with the anemia. Oh yes, one of the other tests are my Protein C test (I think). It came back just slightly out of range. It's one of the blood clotting tests for Tamox. I had an IV related vein thrombosis (on the top of my hand and has still not completely resolved but is much better...I had the IV in for 3 days in the hospital for BMX) ,she thinks is an IV injury and thinks that may be why that one test was off since all the rest were fine. So she is retesting that.
I'm also getting the followup to the US I had 5 weeks ago before starting Tamox, next monday, to check that ovary again ...good timing because I will tell them about the period and have her check out my uterus also. Oh, and exchange surgery Friday of the same week. Wow, I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed.
Sorry so long, bad time today, feeling really blah....just want it all to go away and resolve.
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ECG..So sorry so much is going on, I know my periods are very irregular, but they have always been and were heavy and clotty which was one of the reason I had been on the pill. Now that that is no longer an option , I have noticed they are extremely irregular again and hevay the first day and so far taper off in just a few days. I defitnely would mention to the onc about the heavy flow and clots though especially if that is not normal for you. I am glad they are going to recheck the Protein test, you dont want to leave any stone unturned. I can understand why your feeling ocerwhelmed, so much happening, but you are being proactive and getting thigs done so that is a good thing!
. please keep us posted and in the meantime take care of yourself... great big hugs to you tonight!!!!!!
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I know people have mentioned toe pain while on tamoxifen. Is this a sharp shooting pain or a dull ache? I have had the most horrible pain in my big toe for the past half hour, it feels like there is a piece of glass embedded in there when I touch it.
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Hi little Surf! I don't know if this has anything to do with what you are talking about, but my friend has gout...And if you google it, you might find something out...All I can say is don't "touch it"...
I know even a sheet lying on top of your toes, is un-bearable with gout.
Okay, so much for "good for you" breakfasts....Here's mine...
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Paula - Great news! No biopsy for you and that you did not have to wait the entire weekend to get your results. Relax the rest of the weekend.
EastCoastGrl - I sent you a PM for FB friend request. Trying to catch up and sorry to hear you are having a bad time right now. Hope you are better today and sending best wishes on your exchange surgery.
Tink - Good Morning!
Chevyboy - The breakfast looks wonderful - that's what I'm talking about. YUM!
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Augh. I've had my tamoxifen for a week now and I still haven't taken it. I have a bone density and CT scan scheduled for the next couple of weeks, so I'm inclined to wait until those tests are complete before I start taking it. I totally get Jo wanting to jump feet first into it, but all these side effects are really worrying me. I'm sure I'm way overthinking this, but I've already rushed into so many other cancer-related decisions based on the doctor creating this sense of urgency. Augh...
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ECG Ahhhhhh the toes, so frustrating....my POD never sent mine out for culture, just gave me Formula 3 nail polish ($55.00) to be used 2 times a day and one toe is looking fantastic, it is just the other foot that I never really treated as I just really thought it was on one foot. Now that summer is here I notice the other nail is lifting up as well.....The way he explained it to me is, my toe next to my big toes are almost the same in length. So when I am walking they tend to rub more against the sneaker than the big toe itself. He thinks the walking along with being radiated aggravated the areas and is why I am having a problem.......it took from last August till now, just to grow out a new nail completely. Now it looks like the other foot is doing the same thing. I wish I paid more attention..... I cant help but think it is my walking, but I need to do it and i wont give it up.......if it does come back positive for fungus at least you can treat it and hopefully it will never come back......I am like you.....I love to have my toenails done and never have been without polish when I am wearing flip flops.....I never did the band aid thing as it looked stupid being the 2nd toe.....
As for your periods, mine are starting to get a little funky as well......the week before last I was crazy HORMONAL and was supposed to get my period on that Wed. What I got was a little spotting each day for 3 days and then nothing......so I am 11 days late and wonder when it will rear its ugly little head. I also wonder is it the Tamox or am I just getting older.....I really hate the unknowns.......please know that we are all thinking about you and good luck with your exchange surgery....Hugs and miss seeing you on here.....
Tink and Jo how are you lovely ladies this morning? JoI took my kids to Chili's on Friday night and I had chicken and steak fajitas....yum yum......
Chevyboy did you make that?
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JoanDavies - I hear you when you talk about feeling rushed into making cancer-related decisions based on what doctors are saying. I felt the same way. This whole process has been so overwhelming and a total nightmare for me. So sick of doctors appts.
You have to remember that each of us responds differently and will not have the same side effects. I had some issues with the AIs and was hesitant about starting Tamox. I had a two week break between Femara and when I say my MO. In that time, I decided to just go ahead and go for it. I did have some minor stomach issues - again - but those went away in a few days. Also, I started with just 10mg the first week and then did a split dose for about 3 weeks. Now, I take the whole 20mg in the morning and experiencing joint pain in my toes. It is manageable and is better than the alternative. Joint pain vs recurrance? I'll take the joint pain.
I look at it like an added insurance policy. I just jumped in with both feet and now I feel like I can move on. I am feeling very comfortable with my decision and am not going to worry about it.
Please try not to overthink this. Make a decision and stick with it. We will help you get through this. Let us know what you decide.
Sending out a big hug to you (((HUG)))
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What are ALs? Do they serve the same purpose as tamoxifen? Are they similarly effective, should I consider them, should I ask my Dr? Where can I learn more about the after chemo anti-cancer drugs and their side effects? I only had one chemo session, instead of the 6 they wanted me to because it was just too hard on my body so I'm thinking I really should be taking tamoxifen or something to prevent recurrance. Thanks for all the info, you girls are the best!
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JOANDAVIS..I know it is scary but Jo is right everyone reacts differently to se and the se ususally dont do subside and without a doubt beats reoccurance. I understand that urgent feeling, I know I kept thinking why arent ny doctors schdualing surgery SOONER I want them gone!! lol.. but the first pill is always the hardest.. you can do it and we are all here to help you all the way, for better or wrose we are your support in all this!
hugs!
JO and June ..Good morning my dear peeps!!!! lol
distress I am so sorry that you had such a horrible time with chem. I dont know much about AI except I believe they are for post menapausal women, and are very hard on the joints and bones I believe they actually stop estrogen production...ladies is that right? pease correct me if I am wrong. They are not an option for me as I am pre menapause...good luck hugs to you too!
enjoy the day ladies!!!
Chevyboy is a cooking it up in the kitchen looks yummy!!!!!
JUNE I am with you I hate the unkowns too so scary!
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dksindistress - The AIs are for post menopausal women and in the end do the same thing as Tamoxifen. The AIs are harder on the bones and do stop the production of estrogen. I tried two of them and had severe stomach problems with both. Some do well on the AIs - some start on it and then go to Tamoxifen. I would recommend you talk to your MO about what is best for you and just go for it. If the first one does not work, don't get discouraged, there are others.
June - Good Morning Lovely Lady! In spite of the toe pains, I am feeling so good these days I can hardly stand myself. LOL! After 5 1/2 months of pure living hell, I can't believe I am pretty much back to my old self. Still have to deal with some doctor appts but that is going to be routine anymore. Really just added one to my normal list - the MO and I am seeing him every 4 months right now.
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Jo from one lovely lady to another.....I am 45 and pre-menopausal and I wonder as so many women seem to be put on 5 year for Tamox than another 5 year of something else.....Is this true? Do you or anyone know why we have to do 10 years for some and 5 for others.....just curious.....my mother in law was 59 when diagnosed and she did 5 years on Tamox and another 5 on something else, not sure what that was or is and she has pretty much been good as far as SE.....she is never one to ever complain, in-fact the night before her Mastectomy she told the family even though she was diagnosed many months before.....very private person!
Coffee was fantastic.....now just waiting to see what else the QUEEN delivers....you are so good to all of us Jo! Kiss kiss.....
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Hi all,
My oncologist said that I would be on Tamoxifen for 5 years and then an aromatase(?) for another 5. I'm 53 and premenapausal, so I guess by the time 5 years go by I'll be postmenapausal.
Vikki
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Mine hasnt said anything about going on anything else after Tamoxifen ...hmm.. guess i am going to have to ask her in june when i go back....
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Tink - It is like everything else we have found about BC. Each MO is different in how they prescribe medications. The time frame will vary between each one. All I know right now is, I will be on Tamox for 5 years. I can not take the AIs. I have read on here some have done their 5 years and are going off for good. Ask your onc on your next visit. There is no hurry and nothing to worry about right now. I am going to take one day at a time and cross that bridge when I get there.
LUNCH IS SERVED!
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Hello I too started taking tamoxifen about 2 weeks ago. I have neuropathy in my hands that started after chemo but before tamox. I do feel like my muscles are tight not sure what that is from though, and i have this odd pain in my back over my shoulder blade. But i am working out every day so i hope to loosen up.
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Welcome Carrol2, Sorry to have to meet you here, but you will find a lot of loving and caring support here as we go through our journey together. My daughter did her undergrad on Long Island, 2 years at Southampton and 2 at Stony Brook so we got to go be tourists whenever we went to visit.
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welcome Carol... hope your ride on Tam is a smooth one! you will find lots of wonderful support here!
JO..YUM on the lunch ( as always).. your right every MO does seem to have a different approach, I will ask her but not worry about it, one step at a time ( preferably stepping in flip flops lol! _ )
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Welcome Carrol2 - Like phxsunshine said sorry to meet you here and will help you through your journey. We also try and have some fun along the way.
The group has dubbed me the "Queen of Food". I feed them well so if you have any special requests, just let me know. LOL!
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Carol welcome this is a great group of ladies here.
My old MO and my New MO both said 5 years tamox and 5 years AL's. I am 48 and I guess I will be in menapause by then. Or I will start the 5 years Al's when I am for sure in menaupause which would cut down the yeras.
ECG-good thing you are heading to the doctor, sounds you need to talk to them about your periods. That seems like alot of bloodloss to me.
Chili's seems to be popular this weekend. Ate there after Church today. Had the Cajun chicken pasta and it was yummy.
I am suppose to start my tamox again tonight but just can't seem to get excited about it. I am seriously thinking of waiting until tomorrow. guess I will see how I feel when I take my meds later this evening.
Hope everyone has had a good day. I get tomorrow off so have more things to do around the house to mark off of my to do list that got so behind with bc treatments.
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Hi Gals....I'm going off for at least 2 weeks....My hearing is much worse...going to be fitted for hearing aids tomorrow...but I googled "Can Tamoxifen cause hearing loss" and came up with 3 different sites, which I printed off...even one post from a Tamoxifen thread on BC.ORG! I just hope this is not permanent...And hearing aids are quite expensive....Damn!
Seems likely that my "nerve damage" "could" have been caused by Tamoxifen. I just cried when I read this, because I DON'T want to quit taking this, but I DO want to hear. I'm calling my Oncologist tomorrow, & going to the Audiologist tomorrow, & I'm taking the 3 pages I printed off for them to read. I think it might also have something to do with me being older...I am so bummed! My DH has been saying all along, that he thinks it has something to do with the Tamoxifen.... I think so too, now.
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CHEVYBOY.I am so sorry! I had no idea the 2 could be related.Please keep us posted as to what all your doc say. I am very curious as what the MO is going to sya. They sometimes dont admit what this drug can do. Mine thought I was dizzy and anxious back in Nov due to PSTD, it ended up being the TAm. Keep us posted.. extra hugs for you (((((((((( hugs)))))))))!!!!
JO... Whats for dessert, my sweet tooth is getting loneley lol!
something choclatey maybe????
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ok June...I have to inerupt the flow (excuse the pun) and just say "SUMMER IS ALMOST HERE?" huh????? oh right...I am in Nova Scotia!!! thatbeing said, I am delighted to report tht the snow from two weeks ago is almost gone as it has been sunny and raining all weekend...(yep...in NS it snows, rains and beams with sunshine all in the same afternoon. crazy!)
So I have a fungus question...not related to toes but an issue nonetheless. Anyone getting yeast infections because of Tami? I usually use a mix of Myrhh and Goldenseal and vinegar but this time I had to break down and buy Canesten....
Also I seem to be getting forgetful lately...only word related...has NEVER been an issue for me...at age 48, I am still the queen of multitasking and if anyone at school wants a question answered, they toss it my way...lately, I am having trouble remembering individual words and lif edetails that are normally not an issue...I was not affected by memory loss during peri-menopause of the 18 months pre-tami when I was menopausal...Anyone else going through this too?
As for the Vit D etc., I have my little pile of pills on the counter and I take them every am. the only thing I take at night is my 2nd tami half...and sometimes another calcium if I remember. I have not forgotten it in the 3 months I have been following this little regime. I just set it all up at night.
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Sandee.. Yes I am very forgetful! If I dont write it down it doesnt get done and at 42 I really think its the Tamoxifen. I never had that problem before, could do a whole grocery shopping with no list now I forget stuff with the list in hand.. I also have a hard time getting thoughts together and staying focused.Some days are better than others, but still a noticeable change.
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My oncologist said 5 years tamoxifen but I could always switch midway through if I wanted (why oh why would I want to if tamoxifen is working and has fewer side effects??) but also mentioned possibility of something else after the five years...I am not quite fully menopausal according to my blood test (111 estrogen #)...much lower to be considered fully menopausal.
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Tinkertude...thanks for that...my sister went through majoy memory fog when she was going through menopause and I am wondering if tamoxifen is pushing me faster towards menopause than my body wanted !...I just laugh it off and noone really notices since my memory is generally ebtter than theirs anyhow but it is noticable and disturbing to me....
Chevyboy....so sorry!!! EEEH!.Hopefully they will discover that hey can help you with the hearing loss and that it is not permanent....such a balance....this is all such a balance...
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