'Breasts' or 'Boobies'? Does language matter?

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Ricki13
Ricki13 Member Posts: 80

Interested to see if there is an overriding school of thought from those of us who have, or have had breast cancer in relation to the language used to discuss breast cancer.

How do you feel about campaigns or commentators that use 'cute' euphemisms to promote awareness of breast cancer?

For example (and I'm sure there are many more..), boobies, boobs, tatas, norks, baps, tits, titties, funbags etc. Are these words ok in the context of breast cancer awareness?  Or do they make you cringe?

How do you feel?

:) 

  

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  • konakat
    konakat Member Posts: 6,085
    edited February 2011

    I often refer to my "mutant boob" (breast with lumpectomy).  I think it depends on context and who's using the cute euphemisms and who the target audience is.  I do reserve the right to call my breasts whatever I feel like, they're mine to "name". 

    In most cases I prefer the use of "breast" for awareness campaigns and such things -- to use cute terms demeans the message.  However, sometimes off-the-wall terms or presentations can reach people who never paid attention before.  There was a commerical in Ontario a year or two ago that showed a beautiful woman with lovely breasts, shashaying around a pool in a bikini.  I forget how they tied it in to breast cancer awareness but they did.  Many people were offended, but I liked it -- it reached out to people who might not pay attention to the more serious ads.

    Probably not a great response to your question -- I can change my mind on this depending on my mood.  I'll be interested to see what others post about this.

  • annielynn
    annielynn Member Posts: 49
    edited February 2011

    My son and daughter both wear the I heart boobies bracelet. It's not my favorite but they are showing a solidarity with me in a way that helps them. I prefer breast..but use boobs privately. I'm 51 and my kids are 21 and 14. So more power to them

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited February 2011

    I pretty much cringe. Personally, I always use the word "breast" (though I have been known to refer to my prosthesis as a boob-in-a-box).  What bugs me more than the choice of words itself is when awareness campaigns use sexually-charged appeals - e.g., the sign I saw at a Race for the Cure, proclaiming that "men have a BREASTED interest."  (Not sure how I would have reacted to the ad that Konakat liked!)

    I do agree that sometimes cute/funny/sexy gets the message across, but even the "feel your boobies" campaign directed at young women, which I support, makes me cringe a little.  I guess I'm just old (50 on my next birthday) and stodgy.

    Very interesting question, Ricki13!

    L

  • voraciousreader
    voraciousreader Member Posts: 7,496
    edited February 2011

    I never heard a commentator refer to breasts using euphemisms. However, plain and simple, I think in public it should be referred to as "breast."  There's nothing cute about breast cancer.  Surely, if they are using a cute word, such as "boobie," in my mind, I would be thinking "Boobie Cancer" which sounds downright stupid.  Similarly, I never heard Prostate Cancer, in public referred to as "Cancer of the Balls."  Have you ever heard of a campaign for Prostate Cancer that said, "Guys, go have your balls felt?"   So I think it is condensending to refer to a breast with a euphemism. 

    Privately, you can call it whatever you like.  I refer to mine as "The girls."

  • AmyIsStrong
    AmyIsStrong Member Posts: 1,755
    edited February 2011

    I think that cute euphemisms demean and trivialize the message. It also sexualizes it, which is a whole other problem. I hate the 'i heart boobies' and 'save the tatas' themes.

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited February 2011
    For a serious issue I agree with Amy. Also if it's about breast cancer it's not about saving boobies, tatas or loving boobies. There are many of us that don't have "boobies" anymore. Does that mean we are not worth saving or loving too?
  • julieann
    julieann Member Posts: 21
    edited February 2011

    I was told many years ago from a latina aunt (while breastfeeding) that "they were not chi chi's, but pechos. In other words not boobs, or tits but breasts. She was telling me to be dignified and proud of my breasts, and breastfeeding. I suppose you could translate to breast cancer also. Even if there cancerous there still breasts. Just how I have been raised.

    Julieann

  • otter
    otter Member Posts: 6,099
    edited February 2011

    "Funbags"?  Seriously?  One of mine is in a jar of formalin in a pathology lab right now.  Some funbag.

    Of course language matters.  How many women refer to their nipples as "tits"?  It's been my experience that "tit" is a slang term used by teenage boys, and by men who wish they were still teenagers.  Yes, some of us might privately refer to our breasts as "boobs", and we might use that term when discussing bras, breasts, and breast cancer, among other women. 

    But, "boob", "tit", "tittie", "boobie" ... none of those were acceptable language in my family as I was growing up.  And, IMHO, none of them are acceptable in the context of breast cancer.  Some are worse than others, I think.

    Here's an essay on the issue, written by a man:  "When Did Breast Cancer Become So Funny?" (http://www.healthcentral.com/breast-cancer/c/727563/125634/breast)

    otter

  • karen333
    karen333 Member Posts: 3,697
    edited February 2011

    I agree with otter, all the "cutesie" terms make me cringe, it is pure and simple terms of derision and disrespect.  If we apply any of these euphemisems to men, it is crude.  I agree that all the slang terms sound like they are coming from a teenager's vocabulary, they are in very bad taste and should not be used in any form of campaigning for funds, awareness.

  • karen333
    karen333 Member Posts: 3,697
    edited February 2011

    I agree with otter, all the "cutsie" terms make me cringe, it is pure and simple terms of derision and disrespect.  If we apply any of these euphemisems to men, it is crude.  I agree that all the slang terms sound like they are coming from a teenager's vocabulary, they are in very bad taste and should not be used in any form of campaigning for funds, awareness.  Excellent article, otter

  • Basia
    Basia Member Posts: 790
    edited February 2011

    I agree with others, when it comes to breast cancer, I use the term breasts. In other context I use boobs or boobies or even the girls, but I don't like when others refer to my breasts as anything but breasts. and the term titties makes me cringe, I feel like I am talking to a teenage boy.

  • Sassa
    Sassa Member Posts: 1,588
    edited February 2011

    I have always used breasts.  My one exception has been foobs as freasts doesn't quite make it.  I also don't think of my foobs as breasts; they are two bags of silicone replacing my breasts.

    I guess it is part of the way I was brought up. I knew the "bad" and slang words and what they meant.  However, if educated, one could express oneself without resulting to the substandard terminology.

    As far as referring to cancer of the balls (voraciousreader's post), there is a public service announcement on that features a good looking young man seriously saying, "Give the woman in your life the gift of you giving yourself a self examination for testicular cancer. Why give her diamonds when you can give her the family jewels."

    Tacky and tasteless, in my opinion, but I guess it has it appeal for some segments of the population.

  • Ricki13
    Ricki13 Member Posts: 80
    edited February 2011

    I'm really enjoying hearing your points of view and the discussion on this topic!  And thanks for the links too.

    Any other ladies (or men!) with an opinion on this one?

    Is the language used in the context of breast cancer important to you?  Or is it ok to use 'cheeky' or 'cute' words to generate awareness?  Is there a line and where do you draw it?

    Thanks so much for all the replies! 

  • agada
    agada Member Posts: 452
    edited February 2011

    I am still afraid to call them anything!!! I dont know if I am whole or not so am holding off on giving them a name.  Sounds crazy but I am sure I will end up calling them breasts.

    Agada

  • voraciousreader
    voraciousreader Member Posts: 7,496
    edited February 2011

    Sassa -- I saw that public service announcement Sunday night that you referred to...either during 60 Minutes...with Anderson Cooper interviewing Lady Gaga...or during the Grammys broadcast that followed..with Lady Gaga hatching from her egg.  It was all a blur to me!  BUT NOT THE COMMERICAL!  I, wholeheartedly agree with you that the guy saying, in so many words...that his significant other should be feeling his jewels WAS TACKY!    Did you just hear that sound?  That was my loo flushing because I just barfed at recalling the commercial! 

    I worry that the next public service announcement will be asking significant others to start feeling women's racks! Oy!

  • SuebeeBC
    SuebeeBC Member Posts: 1,256
    edited February 2011

    I dont like the campaigns with the cutesie names either.  And I really dont like them emblazened on a Tshirt, billboard, etc!  I use 'boob' or whatever around my close friend but thats about it.

    I call my "breast in progress" Betty.  LOL - I dont love "Foob" and its not a breast anymore so I gave her a new name.  Its a coping mechanism for me since she is so new.  Not sure what I will call them when my implants are in....I have time to decide.

  • StillHere
    StillHere Member Posts: 67
    edited February 2011

    I refer to the reconstructed area as "tissue mounds." They are not breasts. They are suggestive of "breasts." They are lumps of flesh - but they are not shaped like breasts.

    I dislike the term "foobs." That's just me. To each their own.

    Just don't force me to call them breasts. 

  • SuebeeBC
    SuebeeBC Member Posts: 1,256
    edited February 2011
  • otter
    otter Member Posts: 6,099
    edited February 2011

    [Copied from the other thread, 'cause I don't feel like re-typing it]:

    Where's the evidence that the same women who are offended by terms like "tits" and "funbags" are the ones who want to be "defined by the pink ribbon"?  And, since when is my disgust with the terms "tits" and "funbags" an indication of political correctness?

    I guess I need to take my own advice and walk away.  I promise I'll be first in line next October to resurrect the "Pepto Bismol" thread.

    otter

  • lrr4993
    lrr4993 Member Posts: 937
    edited February 2011

    I love the "mutant boob" comment.  I am going to use that one from now on.

    I personally say boob all the time.  Breast seems so unnaturally formal to me. 

    I don't find any of it offensive.  I like the "save the tatas" line.  Well, funbags might offend me depending on the context . . . I am sure I would be offended if my doctor asked to see the funbags.  LOL.  Or maybe I would crack up and relax.

    The way I see it is that I have much bigger problems to worry about than whether someone says breast, boobs, titties, etc.

  • iodine
    iodine Member Posts: 4,289
    edited February 2011

    BTW, the "family jewels" commercial was for SELF exam, not getting a SO to examine them.  I can certainly see where that would have you running for the loo    ---we do enough for our SOs and examining his "jewels" is SO not something I'm up for.  I examine mine, he has to do his. LOL

    I don't care what anyone calls the mammary gland (s) --except in professional  circumstances.  If my onc or pcp asked to examine my boobs, I'd be insulted and tell him where to shove it.  Of course, I'm free to call them boobs in their offices.  If in a professional situation myself, I'd call them breasts. 

     Otherwise, I have no problem. (funbags is not really flattering, is it?) At 67, I figure I can call'em what I like.  I think even my adult son called them boobs.  My now gone MIL shyly whispered "boobies", long long ago.  My Very long gone mom remebered being a child in church and telling Her mom: Titty, mommie!   (We've come full circle with women breast feeding kids to a ripe age.)

    They do have 2 purposes: fun and feeding.  One serious and one not so much.  Guess we can have different names and obviously, we have lots of opinions!  LOL

  • voraciousreader
    voraciousreader Member Posts: 7,496
    edited February 2011

    Iodine... Thanks! I feel better now! I am telling you, I was so distracted by lady Gaga. But still, Family Jewels.... Did you hear that sound? That was me grabbing my TV remote and changing the channel!

  • Ricki13
    Ricki13 Member Posts: 80
    edited February 2011

    Here in Australia, one campaign for awareness and to promote breast self exam was "Feel me up Fridays".  Thoughts? 

  • flash
    flash Member Posts: 1,685
    edited February 2011

    while the different names do catch attention, I would question is the attention worth it.  It almost trivializes the value of women and if so, the value of their health. JMHO.

  • geocachelinda
    geocachelinda Member Posts: 223
    edited February 2011

    Some words I find offensive.. tits, funbags (that is a new one for me), some I find cute and use myself, boobies, boobs.  When I went into my surgery one nurse asked me routinely what are you here for as verification.  I told her I was getting a boobectomy..  LOL

  • lrr4993
    lrr4993 Member Posts: 937
    edited February 2011

    LOL at Feel Me Up Fridays.  I have jokingly said on a couple of occasions recently (I am almost done with treatment after 6 mos of exams, surgery, chemo and rads) that I have not had this many complete strangers feel me up since my drunk college days.  It was a lot less fun this time around.  Ha!

    I think people take this sort of thing too seriously.  Again, there are much bigger things to worry about, at least in my humble opinion.  Being able to laugh at things is a huge part of getting through it all for me. 

  • AnnNYC
    AnnNYC Member Posts: 4,484
    edited February 2011

    JBinOK -- I'm wondering if you've ever had a medical problem with another intimate body part?  I have -- with anus and vagina -- I would never return to a doctor's office for treatment of those problems if on the office wall they'd had a poster referring to "asshole" or "pussy" !!!

    (Even though I may be quite fond of those terms in the context of "pillow talk" -- but isn't that exactly the point?  Terms used for sexual fun between intimate partners are exactly what I DON'T want to hear from a medical professional!)

    Just my opinion!  Please don't bother calling me a whiner, since I already imagine you think so!

  • otter
    otter Member Posts: 6,099
    edited February 2011
  • AnnNYC
    AnnNYC Member Posts: 4,484
    edited February 2011

    It came from the other thread (from which you copied a post onto this one), which had been started by a woman offended to see a "Save the Ta-Ta's" poster in her breast surgeon or oncologist's office.

  • AnnNYC
    AnnNYC Member Posts: 4,484
    edited February 2011

    Excuse me, in both my comments in this thread I explicitly mentioned a poster on a wall.  I consider posters in a doctor's office as "words used by a medical professional."  You don't, and you're not offended by it, so I'm done.

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