Peau d'orange skin ? pictures
Can someone with IBC please tell me if I should be concerned with my breast? I've taken antibiotics and skin creams but it has not gone away. Other than my skin looking like this and some mild pain under my arm, I have no other symptoms. Can somelone look at the pictures and please advise? I don't have insurance and wouldn't know where to get a biopsy.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/59447342@N04/?savedsettings=5438853673#photo5438853673
Comments
-
Juliebee30,
In many places there are special programs provided at low or no charge to help with exams specifically for breast cancer. Contact the American Cancer Society to see if they can tell you where one might be located close to you. Another suggestion is that you go to your local public health clinic and find out from the nurses there what local programs are available to you. IBC is unusual enough that even some experienced providers are not that familiar with it, so it may be exceptionally necessary to get someone to truly recognize whether or not it is a problem. I wasn't able to just click on your link and had to insert it into my browser to get it work, so it may be that others have read you post and not been able to get it to work either. Because IBC is so much more fast-growing than many other breast cancers, and because peau d'orange can show up so differently in different women, and because it is so uncommon, I don't think you should rely on general opinions about your photos from others here. I have not seen peau d'orange that often myself so I can't say, and what I did see had "indentations" that were not like yours. The public health nurses should be able to help you to identify where you might get a biopsy.
Here are a few other pictures so that you understand the very different ways it can appear:
http://www.ibcresearch.org/pictures/ibc-visual-clinical-symptoms/
If it is IBC, it spreads rapidly, so be sure and get it thoroughly checked out.
Best to you,
AlaskaAngel (sister to IBC patient)
-
Thank you so much. I'll try to find another doctor asap. I'm hoping its nothing to worry about.
-
juliebee30......It sure looks like it to me too. I would definately get in touch with someone and get it checked out. IBC if very fast growing and nothing to wait around about and see. When first diagnosed at minimum it is a stage 3. All IBC is at least a stage 3 if not stage 4. There are only 4 stages. I'm not trying to scare you, but you need to know it's nothing to take your time on. If it's IBC you need to get started on treatment right away. You should be able to go to a clinic and they will be able to help you get in touch with someone to help you get a biopsy. My sister lives in south Missouri, she doesn't have insurance either. She wnt to a clinic and when they heard she might have IBC, they got her a biopsy right away. IBC has many symptoms. Not everyone has then all. Some only get the bug bite looking red mark, or the inverted nipple, or the swelling. Everyone is different. Please get it checket out. Good luck and let us know how you came out. God Bless, Leisa
-
-
I also have Peau d'orange however I was still diagnosed with IDC and not IBC. Never the less you need to see someone about it asap.
-
Hopefully it is B9, no matter what it is. But you will never know unless you get it checked out. Please find a way to go....Praying for you....Leisa
-
Thank you to everyone for their help. I'm going on Wed for a mammo and ultrasound with temporary medicaid but the doctor won't prescribe a biopsy. Will those two tests be enough?
-
possibly not, you need a biopsy. The us may show it and then they would order a biopsy, mammo may show it too. If not you still need a biopsy.
-
If your mammo and sono come back benign then you will not be recommended for a biopsy. Perhaps that is why at this point the doctor is not ordering it - yet. If they come back "suspicious" or "highly suspicious" (a BIRADS 4 or BIRADS 5) a biopsy should be done. The tissue sample from the biopsy is the only way that they would be able to tell a 100% that it is benign or cancer.
-
Tissues sample depends on the tumor size - my daughter's second tumor was very small and listed as suspicious spot. Needle biposy came back negative, but BS removed anyway. It was POSITIVE for cancer. So, insist on through and aggressive testing and re-testing. Better to remove more than to have a "recurrance" when it was there all the time.
-
As an IBC patient, I'm sorry to tell you that NO is the answer . IBC, DOES NOT show up on a sonogram or a mammogram. If you are lucky enough to have some other kind of breast cancer instead of, or with IBC, that has a lump then and only then does it show up on either one of those tests. A biopsy is the only way to detect IBC. With IBC, there IS NO LUMP. It comes in sheets. If you get a doctor who actually knows about IBC(a lot do not), then if the physical symptoms seem to be IBC symptoms, he/she should send you for a biopsy. If your doctor know about IBC, they also know there is a reason to be very aggressive. Most other cancers, you have time to get a second & third opinion if you wish. With IBC, however it is a very aggressive cancer and you only have a few weeks( a month or 2 at the most ) to begin treatment or it can easily go from stage 3 to stage 4. When IBC is first diagnosed it is an automatic stage 3 cancer. If shows up very suddenly and progresses very suddenly. Mine personally went from looking like nothing was wrong to having almost every symptom of IBC there is, in a matter of days. With that said, I do hope you only have some kind of rash and not IBC. It is very doable and they are coming out with new drugs everyday. I am actually in a new drug trial right now. There is hope for this dreaded disease, no matter what kind you may end up with. But remember @ 90o/o of all biopsy's are B9. Good luck to you. I will be praying for b9 results for you. God Bless. Leisa
-
Went in for US and mammo today. They told me I had nothing wrong. They said I probably need stronger skin cream or it will go away on its own. My doctor won't order a biopsy if the two came back negative.I'm not sure what my next step will be. Very frustrating!!! I wanted to thank everyone here for all their support. I am praying for each and every one of you.
-
Hello Julie,
That is concerning. I'm sorry that you got that response. I would say "get a second opinion" but I realize you don't have many options for care.
If you have exhausted the options mentioned in the links above, you could try the National Association of Free Clinics or even Catholic Charities. The web site for the free clinics is: http://www.freeclinics.us/ They may help you apply for Medicaid so that you can be guaranteed care if the worst case scenario comes to pass.
Best of luck!
-
I'm sorry, when it seems as if you've had some reassurance.... Even though it is hard to keep going and spending emotional energy and time and money that is hard to come by on this, IBC is missed often enough by regular medical providers that I would continue to pursue this, because from your description there are actual physical changes that have not been identified or explained but guessed at, and no treatment you have tried has changed it, and the changes continue to progress. The indentations seem to be spaced unusually evenly apart to me in a distinct "pattern", and I don't think there usually is any real pattern to IBC, but what do I know. Is there anything that is in contact with the skin on a regular basis that has any similarity or relationship to the pattern, like maybe a pattern related to the cloth of a bra you wear, etc.?
AlaskaAngel
P.S. What is the explanation given for the other pain under the arm? Is that still there?
-
When the doctor first gave me creams and antibiotics, I was told to change my bras and wear white cotton only. I switched my bras and laundry detergent. I only wear bras to go out and at home I take them off. Its only on my one breast and it has spread from the size of a nickel to almost half of my breast but no other symptoms except for the fact that I have no sensation on that area. I still have pain under my arm but they said they saw nothing with the ultrasound. I guess I will ask for more antibiotics or some other topical cream. They made me feel as if it was no big deal so I'm not sure what to do.
-
i had looked at your pics before and it definitely seems there is something wrong. I think it's important to find a doc who is familiar with IBC, other women on here have had the similar problems-one right now is weesee and she is still having problems and no biopsy. I think you need to find another doctor and don't take your time doing it. If it is IBC it is aggressive and needs to be found. I find it amazing how long women have to wait because the doctor isn't educated enough to make a proper diagnosis. Good luck and keep trying the creams as you find another doctor who will do a biopsy.
-
Get a second opinion. Don't settle for a non-diagnosis. (Antibiotics can be harmful if you do not need them, as you could compromise your ability to fight future bacteria, so I would not go on an assumed diagnosis). Try the free clinics or the Catholic Charities. Do not take "we found nothing" for an answer. Sorry to sound alarmist. Good luck.
-
Another angle you might consider approaching it from along with continuing to look for a breast care provider who would be willing to do the biopsy for you, would be through a dermatology clinic, as you might get a biopsy there that would identify whatever the problem is -- including whether it is IBC.
AlaskaAngel
-
Thanks for the advice. I think if I can manage to get insurance again then I'll find a dermatologist who can help. If not I will have to go to an urgent care clinic, they might give me something topical or recommend someone who can help with biopsies.
Categories
- All Categories
- 679 Advocacy and Fund-Raising
- 289 Advocacy
- 68 I've Donated to Breastcancer.org in honor of....
- Test
- 322 Walks, Runs and Fundraising Events for Breastcancer.org
- 5.6K Community Connections
- 282 Middle Age 40-60(ish) Years Old With Breast Cancer
- 53 Australians and New Zealanders Affected by Breast Cancer
- 208 Black Women or Men With Breast Cancer
- 684 Canadians Affected by Breast Cancer
- 1.5K Caring for Someone with Breast cancer
- 455 Caring for Someone with Stage IV or Mets
- 260 High Risk of Recurrence or Second Breast Cancer
- 22 International, Non-English Speakers With Breast Cancer
- 16 Latinas/Hispanics With Breast Cancer
- 189 LGBTQA+ With Breast Cancer
- 152 May Their Memory Live On
- 85 Member Matchup & Virtual Support Meetups
- 375 Members by Location
- 291 Older Than 60 Years Old With Breast Cancer
- 177 Singles With Breast Cancer
- 869 Young With Breast Cancer
- 50.4K Connecting With Others Who Have a Similar Diagnosis
- 204 Breast Cancer with Another Diagnosis or Comorbidity
- 4K DCIS (Ductal Carcinoma In Situ)
- 79 DCIS plus HER2-positive Microinvasion
- 529 Genetic Testing
- 2.2K HER2+ (Positive) Breast Cancer
- 1.5K IBC (Inflammatory Breast Cancer)
- 3.4K IDC (Invasive Ductal Carcinoma)
- 1.5K ILC (Invasive Lobular Carcinoma)
- 999 Just Diagnosed With a Recurrence or Metastasis
- 652 LCIS (Lobular Carcinoma In Situ)
- 193 Less Common Types of Breast Cancer
- 252 Male Breast Cancer
- 86 Mixed Type Breast Cancer
- 3.1K Not Diagnosed With a Recurrence or Metastases but Concerned
- 189 Palliative Therapy/Hospice Care
- 488 Second or Third Breast Cancer
- 1.2K Stage I Breast Cancer
- 313 Stage II Breast Cancer
- 3.8K Stage III Breast Cancer
- 2.5K Triple-Negative Breast Cancer
- 13.1K Day-to-Day Matters
- 132 All things COVID-19 or coronavirus
- 87 BCO Free-Cycle: Give or Trade Items Related to Breast Cancer
- 5.9K Clinical Trials, Research News, Podcasts, and Study Results
- 86 Coping with Holidays, Special Days and Anniversaries
- 828 Employment, Insurance, and Other Financial Issues
- 101 Family and Family Planning Matters
- Family Issues for Those Who Have Breast Cancer
- 26 Furry friends
- 1.8K Humor and Games
- 1.6K Mental Health: Because Cancer Doesn't Just Affect Your Breasts
- 706 Recipe Swap for Healthy Living
- 704 Recommend Your Resources
- 171 Sex & Relationship Matters
- 9 The Political Corner
- 874 Working on Your Fitness
- 4.5K Moving On & Finding Inspiration After Breast Cancer
- 394 Bonded by Breast Cancer
- 3.1K Life After Breast Cancer
- 806 Prayers and Spiritual Support
- 285 Who or What Inspires You?
- 28.7K Not Diagnosed But Concerned
- 1K Benign Breast Conditions
- 2.3K High Risk for Breast Cancer
- 18K Not Diagnosed But Worried
- 7.4K Waiting for Test Results
- 603 Site News and Announcements
- 560 Comments, Suggestions, Feature Requests
- 39 Mod Announcements, Breastcancer.org News, Blog Entries, Podcasts
- 4 Survey, Interview and Participant Requests: Need your Help!
- 61.9K Tests, Treatments & Side Effects
- 586 Alternative Medicine
- 255 Bone Health and Bone Loss
- 11.4K Breast Reconstruction
- 7.9K Chemotherapy - Before, During, and After
- 2.7K Complementary and Holistic Medicine and Treatment
- 775 Diagnosed and Waiting for Test Results
- 7.8K Hormonal Therapy - Before, During, and After
- 50 Immunotherapy - Before, During, and After
- 7.4K Just Diagnosed
- 1.4K Living Without Reconstruction After a Mastectomy
- 5.2K Lymphedema
- 3.6K Managing Side Effects of Breast Cancer and Its Treatment
- 591 Pain
- 3.9K Radiation Therapy - Before, During, and After
- 8.4K Surgery - Before, During, and After
- 109 Welcome to Breastcancer.org
- 98 Acknowledging and honoring our Community
- 11 Info & Resources for New Patients & Members From the Team