I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange
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BarbaraA,
I am all in favor of non-partisan even handed scrutiny of all government programs. I am in favor of each agency having a strong, independent Inspector General Office. I am in favor of a well trained and staffed General Accountability Office (GAO) which reports directly to congress. I am in favor of a well run and non partisan House Committee on Oversight. I have already written to Darrell Issa, the chairman, asking him to work to improve efficiency and effectiveness of all government programs and asked him to use his position to help restore trust in government but public complementing well run successful programs.
It is time we took seriously the need for accountability and efficiency in government and stopped damning programs just because they were started by the opposing political party. It's about time we stopped using childish terms like "Obamacare" and started coming up with solutions rather than childish nicknames.
It is time that the adults started running the country and stopped listening to name calling pundits who only want to keep ratings high through hate talk rather than working to come up with solutions to complex problems.
Just some thoughts.
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Yes, Bren, you've made my point. Don't play around; just do it! I agree that dogs are more likely to eat their pills if the meds are hidden in a wad of cheese. And, kids are more likely to eat their broccoli if it's smothered in cheese sauce. (What is it about cheese?)
Sometimes deception is the only way to go. Ask the child to go out to the mailbox and get the mail. (My dh does that to me all the time. It's half a mile, each way. I usually take the 4-wheeler.) Sometimes it's perfectly reasonable to pay a child to do something you want him/her to do. Don't some parents pay their kids for good grades? Why not pay them for getting exercise? (I'm thinking on the fly here.)
Oh, and... congratulations! That's very good news. There has been a lot of good news around here lately... except for LisaSDCA, of course.
I am thinking families need to do this fitness and nutrition stuff together. There is only so much that can be accomplished by the schools. Parents and kids need to talk about it, and plan it, and do it.
But I don't have a plan to offer, nor am I prepared to answer the politico-social survey yet. (I have to think about my answers too much.)
otter
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Parents can stop putting Mountain Dew in their kids sippy cups and baby bottles.
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They can also tell them to SHUT UP at public libraries and museums.
It would make life so much easier for the rest of us if some parents didn't act as though their children were everybody's business. My attitude is, "I wasn't there when you go laid, I didn't enjoy the orgasm, so don't get me involved at this boring and cumbersome stage."
"Athena" the childless. :-)
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I remember that also! Why can't schools do that today?
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Budget cuts to physical education.
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Well, take the stupid commission $ and give it back to PE programs!!! Gee ya think the geniuses would figure that out!
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Way to go Bren!
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Bren, congrats on the new client!
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Yay Bren - the marketing paid off - good on you!
Athena - I generallly mutter in the child's direction "I don't remember the pain of giving birth to you" it always gets a lot of laughs from the adults in the area but of course not the mothers.
Also childless,
Sandy
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Why do you have to "trick" the children what about just parenting - and don't load up the house with junk food and video games - try exercising with your kids (our parents did, at least mine did - in our neighbourhood we used to have softball games with our parents when we were young - we thought it was wonderful).
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Sandy - lol!!
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The stars on the President's Council on Fitness, Sports, and Nutrition are all volunteers. Very few of them need the money, anyway, when you consider the names involved. It's a who's who of today's pop culture of health and fitness. No science -- just fame and fortune. As if having NBA players and a NASCAR driver and the chef from a NYC restaurant will impress anyone. Can you imagine what those Council meetings must be like?
It's nice outside. I think I'll go out and make some Vitamin D.
otter (...the childless. Actually, I have a wonderful stepson and daughter-in-law.)
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Also childless brat-hater Barb.
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I think this entire list is a conspiracy by "those who would love to keep picking at us with labels, to finally get us to post what we are. By our answers they shall know us. I am not telling anyone what my feelings are on any one of the policies are bills unless it is just one specific bill. "They" who shall not be named could be reading these posts! Paranoia thy name be "they". I hate labels and prefer to stay anonymous when it comes to my position on bills unless I am discussing it with my rep in order to disuade him from voting one way or the other. I will "come out" to help save my country but I think coming out on all those areas for the world to read is not a good idea IMO. But for anyone who is willing to risk it, I will certainly read eagerly what they post. Thanks!
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LMAO - only because I had those horrible kids you childless folks hate! And they were bratty. My only hope is that they get several of their own, just as bad. Ellie
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True Confession here. I have 7 kids, 3 with diagnosed ADHD. The other 4 were just "very active." Oh do we have stories. The good news is they are all productive members of society. And when I am in a store and a kid is being a brat I snmile because it's not my kid.
Also my daughter has 3 kids. The older 2 are turning out as active as she was. My grandson tried to climb the wall the other day. No step stool, no handholds, just climbing the wall. Now he has a fat lip and my daughter can say her kids are so fed up with winter they are literally climbing the walls!
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The exercise thing is tough . . . and I say that as a late-blooming running fanatic, who wishes I could persuade my teenage daughter to run with me, even as I remember full well just how much I LOATHED physical education (and especially running) as a kid. I do think that some, er, creativity (if not outright sneakiness) is in order to get kids moving. I mean, does anyone remember those Presidential physicial fitness challenges fondly? I sure don't.
My pet peeve is teenagers who drive everywhere. We live in a very compact community (pretty much everybody at my daughter's high school lives within a 1.5 mile radius) with safe streets, and my daughter is one of very few students who walks to school (a little over half a mile in our case). Her friends pity her. And instead of encouraging kids to walk, the school just expanded the student parking lot!
(Some of the same parents who buy their kids cars also buy them health club memberships so they can work out . . . after driving to the club, of course.)
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EDITED to fix a typo.
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I remember the President's counsel and those little badges. I never earned one. I was AWFUL at PE. I was completely uncoordinated.
I have 3 monsters [you'd have never guessed that, right?] and they are all fit as the proverbial fiddle. Want your kid to be fit? Stop buying chips. Stop buying candy. Stop buying soda. Serve water with meals. Don't let them spend hours on DS or even Wii [my mother bought us one. I don't see much good exercise in standing and waving your arm.] Kick them outside to play even when its RAINING---children do not in fact melt when you leave them in the rain.
I took the time to do 1-2-3 Magic with my kids and its worked well. My kids rarely whine at me in stores because a whine leads to the answer NO and if the problem child doesn't stop there, the "no" expands to encompass whatever activity they were hoping to do. We have no video in our car. We don't have a lot of bickering either because when they were younger, DH would park the car when they acted up and get out---leaving them in the car--and then he would sit by the side of the road reading until they stopped. It turns out sitting in an empy car yelling is not fun. Go figure!
I think too many parents are worried about their kids liking them or feeling too guilty about needing to work outside the home to do the work to raise the same children to be liked by society. Sometimes its hard---kids can say some wretched things to you for doing your job. My youngest is always telling me he has the WORST family. I just laugh and say its the family he has and there's nothing to be done about it. And then I hug him and tell him I love him anyway.
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I had 3 ADHD children. I can remember one of us sitting in a car with one of them if they misbehaved in a store or restaurant. They couldn't sit still long enough to watch a whole show on TV. We lived on a farm and they would play outside everyday. Rain or shine. I wish I had made healthier food choices for them but we never had pop, chips or candy in the house unless it was a very special treat. I would actually get them a 'fun' cereal for their birthday breakfast...and that was it.
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Getting out of the car and leaving the kids in it, dragging screaming kids from stores when I said no, ah those were the days.
Junk food was absolutely a treat but so were apples and oranges. My kids knew no meant no, they were just awfully fast sometimes. I had one who never believed he would get hurt doing something until he actually got hurt, then he never did whatever hurt him again. We spent a lot of time at the emergency room. Fortunately, it was close.
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My husband and I used to tell our kids that there were "physical challenges" on the income tax return so that they would leave us alone so we could actually do our return. For example, we would say, "Oh look! Here on line 21 it says,'Run around the yard 5 times and then do 25 jumping jacks.' " Our kids would even argue over who got to do the "physical challenge". This worked for about 3 years.....
So yes...I have lied to my children.
Mary
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A physical education moment...
Teenage daughter is going bowling during PE. The bowling alley is giving a "special rate" on french fries. The gym teacher and other students get large baskets of fries to eat while they are bowling. This is a PHYSICAL EDUCATION CLASS that is held at 10:30 in the morning.
I am disgusted.
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Ang, that is disgusting.
We've lived in 4 states and PE has varied in quality, but in all of them the kids were tested against standards at the beginning, middle and end of the year. Some gave presidential fitness patches and some didn't. I think PE teachers (for the most part, Ang's example and a few stupid coach types aside) do try to have lessons that will improve fitness and contribute to life-long enjoyment of physical activity. They don't always succeed.
We have 3 kids, now 16, 20, and 24. They are/were extremely well behaved and you would have been happy to sit next to them on a plane or in a restaurant. (Seriously. My father says we are "bred for docility"!) When they were little we went to playgrounds all the time regularly and took walks with them on their trikes and little bikes. When the were school age we were lucky to live in a small town where the YMCA provided inexpensive, year-round, everyone plays, sports activities.
They all moved from that to one sport they trained for in middle/high school. Let me add at this point that none of them are natural athletes. No all-stars in this family. Just hard workers who are very coachable. D2 is still involved in her sport at the college level (but she picked a college where the level of sports was low enough for her to still contribute). D1 and now D3 quit competitive sports mid-high school. D3 just told me this year "I'm not a competitive sport kind of girl." That said, they are aware of the need to stay active and D1 did a lot of fun PE activities in college and now she and her boyfriend run and hike together. Not at an intense level, but they have fun. D3 works out with me a couple times a week. And I admit she doesn't have a lot of choice in the matter. My sister and I have coerced her into trying a sprint triathlon with us. They are all well informed that staying fit and staying away from binge drinking is the best thing they can do now to lower the risk of BC later. We have always eaten fairly well, now more than ever we eat a plant-based diet and the older girls, even though they don't live with us, are adapting that in their own lives.
Make activity part of your life from the beginning of theirs, feed them healthy food without being obsessive about it, encourage them to find sports they like, especially life-long ones, have clear expectations about what people who live at your house do and be consistent with them. And give them lots of hugs!
That's my parenting advice column of the day.
edited to change "spring" triathlon to "sprint" triathlon. There's a difference!
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The only class I ever failed in school was PE! I hated it and could see no reason for it. If I wanted activity, I could do it after school. Once a ball (during baseball) hit me in the face and put a bump on my nose. After that I ran from all sports with any balls being hit at me. Caused me to fail PE but saved my nose! To this day, I will have nothing to do with baseball, basketball, etc. I could pass the written tests for the game rules but refused to be a part of the action. Not everyone is fit to play sports. I sure wasn't after that first encounter with the baseball and my nose! I also did not like having to put on a gym suit which showed my legs. My mom would have had a fit since she always kept me well covered and I never went any place without my umbrella to protect me from the sun. One can laugh about it but at my age, I still have great skin! PE and Sun, bad! Umbrella and hiding from balls, good!
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Medigal, I failed Home Ec. I am HOPELESS with a needle and thread. Buttons I can do in a pinch but not well. I can cook but that didn't save my grade since most of it was the stupid A Line skirt I had to sew along with the apron (right..an apron...when would I ever wear an apron?). And we also had to sew a stupid shift-type dress. So all my successful cooking and my abysmal failures with sewing = F. Wait, they don't give F's anymore do they?
As far as PE, I wasn't really that athletic but I like playing basketball and I was a pretty good guard (even though I was only 5 feet tall when I was a senior...I grew 2 inches after HS and at 19 I was 5'2". I also played softball and I remember the neighborhood kickball games. I lived on a corner and my houses's corner was second base. I remember one time I nailed one and broke our front storm door. Boy was I in big trouble.
edited for the usual typos.
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Good at varsity athletics, especially 100m. Also good at swimming. Abysmal at everything else. I both loathed and feared team sports. I had two left feet, no confidence, and I attracted balls like magnets.
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Good at varsity athletics, especially 100m. Also good at swimming. Abysmal at everything else. I both loathed and feared team sports. I had two left feet, no confidence, and I attracted balls like magnets.
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My daughter runs half marithons. Her birthday was sunday and her 9 year old daughter and 11 year old son asked what mom wanted for her birthday. She said she wanted their company on an afternoon run. A couple of sighs and a long face or two but they joined their mom for the afternoon. It wasn't all running, some walking, some talking, a few laughs and the evening was a roaring success. They want to go again next sunday. Who knew?
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School PE was horrid. Dancing, volleyball, what was it the 10BX plan, something with a lot of pushups. Was no way to interest me in exercise.
We didn't have bussing. So we walked to school. The walk home was spent exploring abandoned houses, rotten trees and any stream deep enough to soak my boots.
We went out to play - never stayed in the house. Running around, riding bicycles, skipping, getting in trouble.
Whatever happened to playing?
There was less processed, sugarized food available. Cereal tasted like blah - so who would want to eat too much of it. Chips were a BIG treat. Maybe 2x a year.
Most children today have so much more than we did, while at the same time, have so much less.
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