Exercise while in chemo?

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Tundra Member Posts: 136
Exercise while in chemo?

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  • Tundra
    Tundra Member Posts: 136
    edited January 2011

    Hello lovelies,

     I'm a relative newbie and trying to learn as I speed along through my bc experience.

    I've heard a lot about the importance of exercise while dealing with BC.

    Forgive me if it's an obvious question, but do people recommend trying to exercise while going through chemo?

    My treatment is starting with chemo (I'm IBC): 12 weeks of Taxol and then more (not sure how many weeks) of AC. I'm on week 4 now and had been doing okay up until now with energy levels but am starting to feel the drag this weekend.

    I usually walk a lot (e.g. at least 30mins a day and often 1 1/2 hours each weekend day), but now it's very cold here (I'm in Canada).

    Just wondered if anyone had any ideas, insights, suggestions :-)

    I'm feeling pretty worn out this weekend and not so up for lots of movement.

    Thanks!

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited January 2011

    I just finished 6 tx of THC. (will still be doing H). I was working out Aerobic 5-6 days a week for at least an 1 hour till 4tx. I wasn't as frequent after tx 4. Then my muscles really started to ache tx 5. I'm 5 days out from tx6. I hope to get going again on Monday.

    Yes it's cold. I used to do a lot of walking when I could drive to the gym. That was another big issue for me. My eye start to twitch and my eyes sight gets a little wierd. Not to bad but I don't feel comfortable driving. I hope I'll be better on Monday.

    Prior to my BMX I did aerobic (1hour +) 3-4 times a week and strength training (1.5 hours) 2 times a week. I was in great shape. I assume it will take 4-6 months to get back into shape. 

    As far as cold… I'm having a tough time witht that now. I would love to walk outside but it's bitter cold right now. I'm hoping it warms up in a few days.

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    Overall I felt better when I at least did the aerobic/walking. 

  • Shellusea
    Shellusea Member Posts: 55
    edited January 2011

    Hi Tundra,

    Yes, do exercice as much as you can, but listen to your body, some day you wont be able to do much. Don't feel guilty for that, chemo s/e  is cumulative.  It is possible you feel tired more often as the weeks pass.  AC will be every 3 weeks, the week of the ttm you may feel a little tire, the week after you will feel better but will have to watch carfelly for the blood count. 

    AC should be 12 week total (4 dose every 3 weeks). For a big total of 24 weeks of chemo - 6 months.  Of course it is an average, as you may have a delay because of the blood counts or else.

    Personnaly, when it was too cold to go outside, I went in shopping mall before the opening hours (to avoid the crowd cause of the risk of catching a cold or else), and do the round twice at a good speed.  At noon I had a little walk around the block at the best temperature of the day.  Taking the step as often as possible.

     In March you may probably be able to go out more often, I live near Mont St-Bruno, give me a call, I'll bring you to a nice path where it is possible to feed the birds and see the nature slowly coming out of the big winter sleep! 

    Take care,

    Sue in Qc

  • Tundra
    Tundra Member Posts: 136
    edited January 2011

    Thanks a lot for the replies, everyone.

     Yes, I was definitely alright with my usual heavy walks (1 1/2 in the nice winter air) up until this last week (Tx 4) when I've started feeling pretty tired and sore. (Used to jog a lot too, but not in the winter, and not since things got swollen when I was diagnosed.)

    If it's cumulative, I'm guessing it's just going to get more and more difficult.

     Sue, you're right, in the end it might end up being 6 months of chemo. I guess it's maybe a situation that's more common with us IBCers. The tiredness must really build up! I'm not sure how much I should really push myself at this phase. I'll definitely keep up my walking as much as I can, ooohhh today it was -19C and now it's -22C!

    Thanks for the invitation for the walk -- that sounds lovely. Not sure when I'll be able to get out of the city, but it sounds great. :-)

  • Claire_in_Seattle
    Claire_in_Seattle Member Posts: 4,570
    edited January 2011

    Hi Tundra.....

    I'm from Vermont, so know you are having a cold snap.  I don't think I would be out walking either.  But I did walk throughout Dose Dense AC last year.  As was too warm to ski, I cycled on weekends. 

    In your case, I would be investing in Yaktrax and a super-warm hat, as wigs aren't as warm as hair.

    Lago....also had some eye weirdness at the end of Taxol, so didn't drive then.  But I walked.  I think I cycled a few times being slightly bleary-eyed.

    Congrats to all of you exercising through chemo.  It takes discipline, but I think makes a lot of difference in how you feel, and your recovery later.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited January 2011

    Scale back it you are feeling worn out; but doing something, however light compared to your 'normal' workout, will really help you bounce back faster and better once you are done with chemo. Best of Luck, this too shall pass. Ruth

  • NatsFan
    NatsFan Member Posts: 3,745
    edited January 2011

    Bonjour Tundra!  As everyone has said, do what you can, but don't be too disappointed if as your chemo treatments continue you're able to do less and less.  I worked full time during chemo, and by the last couple of treatments it was all I could do to drag myself to work and come home at night - I was only able to do a little walking on weekends, but even that totally wore me out.  Before dx I routinely worked out for over an hour at a time, including being able to elliptical that long.  Two weeks after chemo was done I hopped back on the elliptical - I only lasted 5 minutes and the thing kept blipping off because I was going so slowly, but that was a start and I've been able to build up from there.  As Ruth says, this too shall pass.  Good luck!  

  • Tundra
    Tundra Member Posts: 136
    edited January 2011

    Thanks ladies for the encouragement :-)

     I've just been worried about the Taxol muscle and joint pains. After this last treatment I feel more like 85 rather than 35, and I could usually walk all day without getting sore!

     Claire, heh heh, I'd never heard of Yaktrax before. Guess I'm a city-slicker! ;-) I have a pair of these though... so I'm okay for walking. But could use a warmer hat. Still have my hair for now, which is a small miracle, but that probably won't last through all the treatments.

  • Shellusea
    Shellusea Member Posts: 55
    edited January 2011
    Wow! These boots are perfect to kick cancer a*** ! Wink Wink Wink
  • Tundra
    Tundra Member Posts: 136
    edited January 2011
    Heh heh! Good point! Wink
  • TonLee
    TonLee Member Posts: 2,626
    edited January 2011
    • Tundra,

     Before treatment started I did an hour to 90 minutes strenuous cardio (heavy sweating, only able to speak a few words at a time before losing breath) every day, plus about 3-4 hours weight training a week.

    When I started treatment I cut the intensity of the cardio in half (per consultation with dr and physical therapist) and started working my stamina back up to an hour.  I haven't done any serious lifting since I'm still not completely healed from the MX.

    This is what I've noticed so far.  The day of and 5 days after treatment my workouts are just plain hard to do.  I still do them, but on a scale of 1 to 10 (10 being the most strenuous) it is about a 5.  On those days I am just GLAD to get the hour in and done.

    But usually by the 6th day after TX I can pick it up a point or two in exertion.

    By the eighth day I am able to workout for an hour at about an 8, and then from about day 10 on..I'm back at full strength and power until the next TX.

    I am between TX 3 & 4 of 6 (TCH).

    I started treatment with several other women (that don't exercise) who are spending more and more "down" time after every TX.  I haven't had a single down day yet...no laying on the couch or in the bed.  (Of course I realize just putting this out there almost guarantees my next treatment will take me out...lol).

    I could not survive chemo without exercise.  And I honestly wonder how some women do.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited January 2011

    Glad you are still at it TonLee!!

  • lisag32803
    lisag32803 Member Posts: 5
    edited January 2011

    I am on TCH with treatment 5 in a week ansd a half.  I have noticed if I can convince myself after work to do some exercise, I feel so much better.  My husband and I rode bikes for 6 miles yesterday and did a walk/run for 3 miles today.  I feel great! Of course, I live in Florida and the weather was beautiful this weekend, so, I think that helped my mood!  :)

  • TonLee
    TonLee Member Posts: 2,626
    edited January 2011

    Ruth-

    Yes, I'm still at it.  I keep track of my fitness, weight, and caloric intake at fitday.com (it's free)...which is why I'm not posting as much on the fitness thread.  I will check in once in awhile though...just to stay motivated!

    Lisa I agree.  When I least feel like exercising, literally have to drag myself up on the cross trainer, THAT is when I get the most benefit with an extra shot of energy.  I also find the more I sweat, the faster the steroids leave my body...or the side effects of them anyway....but I have to really sweat....which is sooooooo beautiful on a bald head....lol

  • Shellusea
    Shellusea Member Posts: 55
    edited January 2011
  • Heidihill
    Heidihill Member Posts: 5,476
    edited January 2011

    TonLee, hats off to you!! Great to hear you're still exercising. Tundra, I took walks outside everyday even in Winter, but maybe it doesn't get as cold where I am. Plus with my severe hot flashes, the cold was a nice place to be. Often, exercise was the last thing I wanted to do, but I dragged myself out the door. Once you're outside, it gets easier.

  • johnrazor
    johnrazor Member Posts: 6
    edited February 2011

    hi, i just wondering the same thing,when my friendgot chemo then he started his normal life style.He is 19 years male in stake boarding and excersing etc.He still exercise and skate board chemo does stop her.

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  • 4teatime2
    4teatime2 Member Posts: 1
    edited February 2011

    Does anyone have suggestions for finding a trainer who is sensitive to creating an exercise plan and aware of the demands of chemo / and challenge to regain strength after BMX?

  • mdg
    mdg Member Posts: 3,571
    edited February 2011

    I am so encouraged that I can try to continue working out during chemo.  I am hoping to actually get back to teaching some of my aerobics classes again during chemo!  I have been off from teaching due to BLMX and TE but am itching to get back to my class.  They have no idea I have cancer and I don't plan on telling them either.  I hope I can fit in a few classes when I feel good.  That will feel "normal"...you know what I mean?  How long after BLMX and TE before your PS would let you exercise?  Mine keeps pushing me to wait.....ugh! I am listening to them, but going crazy.  My poor body is so sore from laying around.  I am doing lots of stretching on my lower body right now as my butt and hips hurt from sitting/laying around so much!  I can't wait to get a good, sweaty workout in again!

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited February 2011

    Concentrare on lower body  and ab stuff until they OK upper. I always hated the lower body workouts but did them because that's all I could do, plus it drove me crazy to do nothing & I lost a pants size!!! The one silver lining!

  • TonLee
    TonLee Member Posts: 2,626
    edited February 2011

    Mdg, I think you'll be able to teach classes.  Maybe not the first few days after treatment but after that ... I think a lot of it is mental.  If you go into chemo thinking you'll need down days, you will.  I didn't plan for any down days, and so far (my #4 is Tues) I haven't had any....days where I'm fatigued?  YES!  But nothing I can't work through (so far).

    Good luck!

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