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  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited February 2011

    I meant to say in my post about traveling, my all time favorite place I have been to was Tuscany. Pretty much anywhere in Tuscany is where I would love to retire. Sigh...not likely. Although it does get cold there so maybe the Caymans are on the horizon.

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited February 2011

    Barbara .. the tropics sound good to me too.  I am so tired of this long winter.

    I've been to Hawaii many times, but the best was the first trip I took to Maui.  I spent three months there .. and this was before the developers bought up the island.  It was so pristine, only one large hotel at that time.  You could hike all over and be safe anytime day or night.  We would find awesome beaches with no people .. only gorgeous blue water and lots of really cool shells.

    I'm glad I have all my lovely memories now that it is so difficult for me to travel.

    Bren

  • IronJawedBCAngel
    IronJawedBCAngel Member Posts: 470
    edited February 2011

    Tuscany is a place that I truly would love to go to before I die.  My birthday fantasy this week was awakening in Tuscany to Andrea Bocelli seranading me!   A girl can dream.

  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited February 2011

    Happy BDAY, IJBCA!

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited February 2011

    Iron .. I'm going to steal your dream .. it sounds heavenly!

    Bren

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited February 2011

    I always wanted to travel!  When I was a young girl, my parents went away often, but the only trips I took with them were to visit my grandmother in the U.S.  They always said "Wait until you grow up, and you can take yourself anywhere you want to go!"  I was so excited to do the honeymoon thing -- we went to the Canary Islands, Rome and London and, except for a nasty cold I picked up on the plane, (ugh!) it was a dream trip.  After that, I couldn't get enough!  But what I discovered to be almost as enjoyable was picking up travel and history books beforehand of the places we were going to visit.  It prolonged the enjoyment and made me appreciate the countries and their sites and cultures even more.

    I think there are probably 3 main reasons people don't travel -- lack of funds, problems with mobility, and a lack of curiosity.  Of course, language can be another deterrent, but I'm not a linguist except for knowing some French, Spanish and Italian, and have never encountered any difficulties.  In countries such as China, one doesn't go anywhere without a guide/interpreter.

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited February 2011

    The only place I can get to anymore is home in San Diego to see the grandsons.  Lack of funds keeps me from traveling any other places.  Plus, Tim won't get on an airplane!  When I travel home, he stays here and babysits the dogs!

    Linda .. lack of another language, except Spanish, wouldn't keep me from going abroad.  I think for most people it really is a lack of money. Most people are living check to check and can only dream about vacations.  The other thing is location.  There isn't too much I want to explore in the area I live in now.  It was lots more fun when I was only a days drive to all kinds of great places.

    Anybody having superbowl parties tomorrow?

    Bren

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2011

    E, just had to jump in here.

    We couldn't afford for our children to travel...we have three.  They went to private schools and were not around many different ethnic groups.  Most of the kids they were in school with traveled and were from very wealthy families.  However, children can learn not to be racists...it starts at home.

    The first time my oldest DD was exposed to many African Americans was when she was in the 11th grade and went to Girl's State (geez, I believe that's what it was called).  After she graduated from college she worked as the Court Advocate for the local Domestic Violence Center.  You can imagine all the "cultures" she was involved with.  Domestic violence doesn't pick which race or how rich or poor you are.  She decided to go to law school.  I encouraged her to go to an inexpensive school..told her she'd make her own reputation.  She was paying for this one..not us.  She chose a predominately black university.  She ended up working for a very large law firm and making great money. She now has her own practice with another partner from that law firm.

    None of my children are racists.  Two of them have traveled to some extent...one more than the other.  My middle DD has not had the opportunity to travel the world...she has two children.  At least they have visited Disney several times.  And they love coming here because we have the beach and it's free entertainment...almost!

    Our priorities sometimes are different.  I chose to stay home with my children thus less money.

  • konakat
    konakat Member Posts: 6,085
    edited February 2011

    I remember when I was a little kid I loved reading the encyclopedia set called Lands and Peoples.  I always wondered who the people were, what they did...

    My parents travelled a wee bit once my father stopped farming. Mom got her world view from reading pretty well every biography/autobiography of every major leader/in-the-news person or about historical events in countries since as long as I can remember.  No fiction for her.  She's the most knowledgeable person I know.

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited February 2011

    Shirley .. it's wonderful you could choose to stay at home.  Most of us couldn't.  I worked full time to take care of my son.  I was still able to take him to Disney and on a cruise to Mexico. He's not much of a traveler though and prefers to stay close to home, hiking and exploring the back county in San Diego.

    Alpal .. can't remember .. is it your DD who lives in Tahoe?  I love Lake Tahoe ... been there many times.  My son likes to snowboard there, and I love it in the summer and fall.  Sure wish I still lived out west. 

    Bren

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited February 2011

    Some of us just aren't "travellers".  What I do enjoy is going on road trips.  We pick a destination and just go.  It is amazing what you can find just hanging out in an unknown town or city.  We land in a good hotel and plan what to do when we get there.

    The great thing about Canada and the USA is that we have such diverse landscape and cultures right here.  There is always something new to explore and do without spending a fortune. 

  • konakat
    konakat Member Posts: 6,085
    edited February 2011

    My favourite thing to do for a day trip is to try to get lost in all the back roads and see where I end up.  It's a great way to find little villages and such.  Sometimes I would panic but I knew I'd eventually hit a hwy and find my way home.  Much easier with a GPS now!

    Often my fav travelling companion and I would just book the first and last nights' hotel rooms.  We'd then just go wherever our mood took us.  A very spontaneous guy -- gave me 4 days notice to go to Australia, and I had just started a new job -- luckily I had an understanding boss and she said GO!

  • Alpal
    Alpal Member Posts: 1,785
    edited February 2011

    Bren, yes she lives at Tahoe. Beautiful place. Particuarly in the summer. They can have all that snow.

  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited February 2011

    I have to thank you all.  I fixed roasted brussels sprouts last night.  DH ate six, without me coaxing.  When I asked him if he liked them he said that they were ok and they were good for him.  This is progress.  :)

    Also, I ran across this article and thought it might be comforting to those worried about light bulbs, first a paragraph then thanks to otter, the link:

    "“There’s a massive misperception that incandescents are going away quickly,” said Chris Calwell, a researcher with Ecos Consulting who studies the bulb market. “There have been more incandescent innovations in the last three years than in the last two decades.”"

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/06/business/energy-environment/06bulbs.html

    Edited to add an apology:  Sorry for interrupting the travel discussion.  I was just really excited about the brussels sprouts. 

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited February 2011

    PiP -- "travel" doesn't just mean overseas!  DH and I have explored New England several times and, like you, just enjoy the scenery and the sites.  I loved visiting Lake Placid cuz my American aunt brought me a LP T-shirt when I was about 6, and I wore it to shreds!  Travel memories can be close to home, far away and anywhere in between!  Great way to combine fun and education.

    RR -- I'm working on my DH too with the famous brussels sprouts!  He's beginning to tolerate them LOL!

  • mom2westies
    mom2westies Member Posts: 27
    edited February 2011

    Ladies - I have been with you several months and feel that I know you and like you. No brussel sprouts tonight but I can talk grits and livermush any time.Your conversations about travel have inspired me to post. We are not world travelers and probably will never see another continent but we love to see the USA in a motorhome.My dh is earlystage Alzheimers so recently we downsized our motorhome so that I can drive it - also we travel with 2 Westies. I want to continue with this lifestyle as long as possible. New England is on my to-do list for next summer and earlier than that a trip to Savannah and to Auburn where our gd has her senior art show. By the way of an introduction I am a 70 year old retired teacher and dh a 75 yr old former county extension agent. He probably remembers how to grow brussel sprouts!

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited February 2011

    Welcome xgolfer.

     New England is indeed beautiful. Next I want to see it in full fall colours.  

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited February 2011

    I revived an old thread, since we're all talking about our travels.

  • Medigal
    Medigal Member Posts: 1,412
    edited February 2011

    Traveling became my passion when I was a wee child and saw this photo on our mantle as these gorgeous mountains with what I thought was milk flowing out of them.  As I hugged my "ninny bottle of milk" I told my brother when I grew up I was going to find that mountain!  He sadly told me only rich people could get to where that mountain was and I probably would never see it.  Well, I learned then you don't tell "me" I can't do something.

     The first thing I told DP when he proposed was that I would only marry him if he let me handle the finances and agreed to travel all over the world with me to find my mountain.  He, of course, though I was a bit nuts because on his salary we were definitely not well off.  I was a "stay at home mom" the only one in our neighborhood and while all the other ladies were working, I worked at budgeting and saving money each year for a trip I researched to any place that had mountains.  We traveled over the years to practically "every" state in the US which had mountains, then took on the Carribean, Hawaii, Alaska but beautiful mountains but not "my" mountain.  One night I had a dream that I only had 10 years to travel and I needed to go to Europe before my traveling days were up.  I planned trips to Europe with a passion!  London, Paris, Denmark, Italy, Sicily, Germany and still not my mountain!  Then I decided to go to Switzerland and there was my milk laden (really was snow) mountain!  It was the Alps!!  I laughed and cried and yelled to my deceased brother "You see!  I did find my mountain!  It's not only for just the "rich".  I made it.  I made it!"   We returned to Switzerland twice and then my ten years were up.  I had a cerebral aneurysm and a year later diagnosed with bc!  I am now in no condition to take on Europe or any more traveling.  But I managed to budget and find the money for every trip sometimes twice a year.  A passion is a passion!  

    The reason I am sharing this is to let you know if you care enough about wanting to travel, it can be done!  It's not only for the rich people!  I worked as hard at turning my dream into reality as most women do who hold important jobs making 20 times the amount of money I had to work with.  My DP still can't believe we have  been to all the places we went to on his meager salary over the many years.  I planned each trip, a year ahead and by the time we were to leave, I had our "trip" funds all saved.  So, I may have given up a lot of things many people feel are more important like a fancy home, car, jewelry or designer clothes but I found my mountain!  And you can find whatever place you desire to see, if you want to do it bad enough.  Happy travels!

    The weirdest thing about it all was that once I found my mountain which I carried in my heart from a child, I no longer had any more desire or passion to keep traveling. But it was time to stop any way and we have a closet full of photos and memories of all the years and places we saw.  

  • Alpal
    Alpal Member Posts: 1,785
    edited February 2011

    Thank you for the lovely post, Medigal.

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited February 2011

    What Alpal said.  Touching and inspiring, both.  It makes me very happy to know you got to see your mountain.

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited February 2011

    Yes Medigal....you touched my heart.  I worked very hard all my life to enjoy the things I have enjoyed in my life.  I couldn't take on a trip either with PD on my back.  I'm so glad you found your mountain.

  • rosemary-b
    rosemary-b Member Posts: 2,006
    edited February 2011

    Oh Medigal

    You are a wonderful determined woman.I am impressed by how you followed your dream.

  • covertanjou
    covertanjou Member Posts: 569
    edited February 2011

    Medigal, your post made me cry.  You are an inspiration to all of us.  ((((HUGS)))))

    golfer, welcome!!

    Enjoyful, I can't believe you forgot Montreal and the best bagels and hockey team in the world.  I kid, of course the Capitals are the best --not!

    I was a stay-at-home mom too.  I starting teaching when my youngest was in grade 4.  She was soooo unhappy about me going to work.  She loved me picking her up at school and then talking about her day.  Because I am a teacher, and I was working part-time then, I was able to pick her up a few times a week.

    When I was a stay-at-home mom, money was tight so most of our holidays were road trips.  We either stayed in Quebec (going whale-watching in Tadoussac, Quebec CIty) or travel to Vermont or New Hampshire.  We used to go camping in Vermont every summer: fun and inexpensive. 

    My dream was to visit Italy with my kids (I am of Italian descent), and going there with my DH and kids was amazing.  I was able to show them the house my parents grew up in SIcily, and we met some of my parents' old friends. 

    I love the stories everyone has shared.  Thank you for sharing your memories and stories. 

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited February 2011

    Shifting gears to food (and international events): 3monstmama posted something a day or two ago about eating lentils and rice in honor of the Egyptian people.  I stole her idea, and am eating a solidarity supper of ful mudammas (little brown fava beans), hard boiled eggs, and a chopped salad.  So good! 

    L

  • molly52
    molly52 Member Posts: 389
    edited February 2011

    Medigal - WOW!!!!! In so many ways, WOW!!!!

    A wonderful story with a happy ending.  A life out of the box.  And a ten year notification.  Each one a story in itself.    It made me feel very happy for you.  Thanks for sharing.

    Thanks everybody for sharing.

  • AnneW
    AnneW Member Posts: 4,050
    edited February 2011

    Great essay, Medigal. We can all find our "mountain" if we keep at it.

    By the way, was it The Matterhorn?

    Anne

  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited February 2011

    Medigal...WOW. Hugs for you gal! Speechless here.

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited February 2011

    Great post Medigal. I envy you and cannot identify for one iota with the lovely simplicity of your quest. I wish I could. I have the opposite problem. I find myself easily on top of a mountain and consistently have to be weaned off it, then I have to climb back up to a plateau for safety. Do this too many times and you will not have the chance to fulfill a single ambition or goal in your life. 

    Back to the literal world, I do have lovely childhood memories of the Swiss Alps, though.  

  • 208sandy
    208sandy Member Posts: 2,610
    edited February 2011

    Medigal:

    Your post gave me goosebumps - wonderful story.

    Hugs, Sandy

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