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  • msjag
    msjag Member Posts: 416
    edited February 2011

    Thanks Omaz and Jo, I'm glad to almost be at the rad stage (end of Feb) but trying to absorb all that comes with it.  THanks goodness for all of you. My friends and family are calling me today (snow day in MA)  and saying..".last chemo tomorrow .and your done... hooray"... ALthough I appreciate the good wishes, only all of you can understand the emotions/thrills/fears that all comes with, especially if you are triple negative...but I'm staying positive and trying to keep all fears out of my head, not easy, but I'm trying!!

  • Sherryc
    Sherryc Member Posts: 5,938
    edited February 2011

    msjag at least you will be able to close one chapter and start the next with your rads and know that that will come to and end as well and we will all be here when you cross that line.  I have a friend that is only speaking positive thoughts right now.  She said she found herself being to negative.  It is quit interesting to be around her because she will start talking and then stop.  I laugh because I know she was about to say something negative.  We laugh and say don't do it.

  • jo1955
    jo1955 Member Posts: 8,543
    edited February 2011

    msjag - Don't think about rads right now - that will come later. Focus on what is going on now and get through it. There is so much to do with BC it can make our heads spin.  No one said we have to be positive or strong all the time.  We are all here to help each other through this journey.  Sounds like you could use a big hug today.

                                      

  • rachel5738
    rachel5738 Member Posts: 920
    edited February 2011

    #18 today...lots of snow in Toronto--schools cancelled so kids were extra happy. My rads are a little later today so hopefully the roads will be better. When I had shower last night--noticed my boob is a little sore--not terrible but a little sore. Good luck to everyone else.

    msjag---don't think about rads right now--get some rest after this last chemo! I know how I was feeling when chemo finished--strange--you hate chemo but when it is done--you feel a little lost--someone compared it to being put in a boat and pushed out to sea. Strange.

  • Omaz
    Omaz Member Posts: 5,497
    edited February 2011

    Well, I seem to be getting lymphedema on my treatment side.  My right arm is slightly swollen around the elbow and hurts down the inner part of the arm all the way to the wrist.  I saw the nurse this morning and she is going to talk to the doctor about referring me to LE specialist.  Bummer, I was hoping to avoid it.  Oh well.

  • saturn
    saturn Member Posts: 139
    edited February 2011

    My rads were canceled today... intermittent power outages-- probably due to the unusually cold weather here, so I hope it doesn't repeat tomorrow.  Went to nutritionist yesterday and left feeling a little bummed because I thought I was doing good things.  She says I need to increase protein, especially during the rads, and that eating a lot of frut/smoothies is just as bad as eating sugar.  I do not agree with her about that but whatever.  I'm also bummed because my husband thinks he is supporting me but really is not, other than driving me to rads (it is less stressful for me to drive myself, I am beginning to think!).  As far as emotional support I think he is terrible.  I don't htink he is  equipped emotionally based on his upbringing, and I'm disappointed.  I am a survivor though so I WILL get a handle on this.  I'm usually one of those glass half-full people.  Maybe I'm just having one of those days.... I hope it all looks better tomorrow. 

  • Omaz
    Omaz Member Posts: 5,497
    edited February 2011
    lyndalynda - Guys like to fix things.  Hard to fix things with what we are going through so I think they feel a bit powerless.  Especially hard for them since they generally love us so much and want to help.
  • msjag
    msjag Member Posts: 416
    edited February 2011

    I know this is a rads thread, I am having a terrible time sleeping even being prescribed ativan and trying ambien, my primary suggested melatonin supplement, anyone done this/heard of this?  I jsut want to sleep after this last chemo...I have such a hard time, thanks for lettting me go off the subject.

  • lestwin
    lestwin Member Posts: 83
    edited February 2011

    Omaz:  I thought I had LE too but I have been squeezing a small ball in my hand every day and the pain has subsided now.  Sometimes a vein down the middle of the inside of my arm to my wrist appears with knots in it but that too has dissipated.  Had it checked out by a vascular surgeon but they said at the time that it looked ok.  I'm still working the ball, even before my rads started (#3 today).

    Lyndalynda: As for husbands who seem not to support you, I have a friend who is married to a British guy and he acts really unpleasant when she is sick.  My husband and I are expats (now American) but he seems to be pretty supportive and it does help but hang in there, when all this is over he may be able to relate his fears during your treatment.  We are here to support you:)

    msjag:  Yes I have used melatonin to sleep but my primary was skeptical only because it was a supplement and I believe not regulated by the FDA.  I would take 1/2 a pill and it would knock me out but left me dehydrated in the morning but during this treatment I use 1/2 a benadryl and it works and leave me feeling uplifted the next day.

  • raincitygirl
    raincitygirl Member Posts: 3,143
    edited February 2011

    I agree with the idea that men want to fix things and also that, in general, some are not well-equipped to offer emotional support.  This has been a great learning process for me and DH - I have learned to articulate what I want/need and he is learning to fulfill that.  It's not always perfect, but it is much better.

  • Sherryc
    Sherryc Member Posts: 5,938
    edited February 2011

    msjag I have used melatonian in the past and it works for me.

    Lynda-I agree men want to fix things.  My husband is not good about thinking ahead of me so I am with raincity I have had to learn to tell him what my needs are.  As long as I do that he is very helpful and support.  I just wish he could read my mind, it would make it so much easier!!!  Do I need to come to Austin and take you for a drink?

  • Omaz
    Omaz Member Posts: 5,497
    edited February 2011
    lestwin - What kind of ball is it?  I want to do that for the LE.
  • lestwin
    lestwin Member Posts: 83
    edited February 2011
    Omaz:  I got it at the supermarket (Publix) it is called Quality Poof and fun squeeze ball and it was $2.29 I believe. made by Poof Slinky, Inc.  website is www.poof-slinky.com.  It's worth a try, my RO suggested it at my first meeting a month before rads.
  • Omaz
    Omaz Member Posts: 5,497
    edited February 2011
    lestwin - Thanks
  • saturn
    saturn Member Posts: 139
    edited February 2011

    sherry, omaz, raincity and lestwin-- thanks for listening!  unfortunately for me, my husband is one of those guys who want all the power (and feel they know everything, ugh!  And he DOES know more than me so that makes it tough!).  I am usually one of those easy-going people so we make it work, but when my health is the issue and my feelings are ignored or discounted, I have a problem!  Yes sherry, a drink sounds great!   The idea gave me a smile anyway :)  Thanks!

    lestwin - I was having a similar prob with my arm for about a month after surgery, thought I had LE.  I think it turned out to be "cording" or AWS (Axillary Web Syndrome).  My symptoms were swelling, my vein down the center of my forearm disappeared, tenderness, tightness.  My cording was in my upper arm heading straight towards my underarm.  The vein kind of stuck out and had knots.  I went to a certified LE therapist 3 times and she gently massaged it, and also had me doing LE exercises daily.  Not sure which helped or if it would have resolved itself anyway, but I am glad to send you the exercises she gave me, so let me know.  Best of luck, sounds like it will be okay.

  • jo1955
    jo1955 Member Posts: 8,543
    edited February 2011

    lyndalynda - Our husbands sound alike.  i just made sure I took care of myself and got to all my appts.  He never offered to take me to any of them except my first MO appt. That is only because we now have the same MO.  So, I can relate to everything you are saying.

  • lestwin
    lestwin Member Posts: 83
    edited February 2011

    lyndalynda:  I would definitely like to have the exercises as I am doing everything I can to make this ugly episode in my life as easy as possible.  Reading this forum has been an eye-opener and such a help

    Your husband sounds just like my twin sister's husband, knows it all (or pretends to) and yells at her all the time.  She was hospitalized 3 or 4 times last year for 4 months with septicemia and was not expected to live and some days (because she had 5 seizures) her speech is garbled and he mimics her!  A--H!

  • Omaz
    Omaz Member Posts: 5,497
    edited February 2011
    lyndalynda - I would like the exercises too, PM me?  Thx
  • saturn
    saturn Member Posts: 139
    edited February 2011

    okay... I have to scan it in first.  will send later today!

    lestwin - your sister's DH sounds really bad... mine is bad enough!

  • Sherryc
    Sherryc Member Posts: 5,938
    edited February 2011

    lestwin-your sisters husband sounds terrible.  I can't believe he would mimic her.

  • marjie
    marjie Member Posts: 1,134
    edited February 2011

    lyndalynda - regarding the fruits and sugars, I am a wellness nutritionist and used to council people on weight loss and eating healthier.  That was always a pitfall - when you tell people they should aim for 8 servings of fruits and veggies, often you get the veggie-haters eating 8 fruits in a day.  Just remember that sugar is sugar and your body will convert it and store it as fat if you have too much - even coming from fruit.  I always tell people 2 fruits and 6 veggies is a good split. I definitely understand the frustration though when you think it's a good thing and you're told it's not.  I always told my clients not to deny themselves certain foods but remember the three steps "balance, variety, moderation" with MODERATION being the biggest point (IMHO).  I know that these days I really struggle with "proper" eating and I am very short on my proteins lately.  Nobody is perfect.  I found and excellent book in the library at the cancer centre that I think I will purchase: Eating Well Through Cancer, Easy Recipes and Recommendations During & After Treatment by Holly Clegg and Gerald Miletello, MD.

    Good luck and don't get discouraged!  This is a hard road for all of us sometimes.

  • saturn
    saturn Member Posts: 139
    edited February 2011

    narjie - thanks for the advice. It backs up what she said, and makes total sense (just didn't want to hear it, I love my smoothies!).  I will check into that book too... :)  Thank you!

  • Eloise
    Eloise Member Posts: 137
    edited February 2011

    msjag, I've got a sleep disorder related to my work shift, and I've tried melatonin at the suggestion of one of my docs and it's been helpful, but not as much as I'd like.  It's certainly worth a try; check with your doc about dosage, mine says the recommended dose on the label is actually too low to do much good for most people. Some people think the liquid is more effective, especially the kind that comes in an eyedropper to be taken under the tongue.

    It's also supposed to be important for sleep disturbance that when you go to bed, lie down and shut your eyes; don't sit up, read, watch TV, or listen to the radio in bed, and keep your room as dark as possible.  I don't practice any of this, mind you!  I don't have a TV in my bedroom, but I've been reading in bed every night since I learned to read, and can't get to sleep without the radio on. I never had sleep issues before I got assigned to the shift I have now, though. I had great results with Ambien for about two weeks and then I had a freaky amnesia attack one morning after taking it, which put me off it. 

    Sleep is really important to healing, so don't neglect it.  I'm already on leave from work even though I'm only on #7 of rads, mostly because I don't sleep well when I'm working my usual shift.  

  • nancep
    nancep Member Posts: 7
    edited February 2011

    I'm guessing all of the women here had mastectomy with external beam rads.    I had lumpectomy and then opted for the brachy therapy treatment (5 days).  It was pretty painful having all those tubes put into the breast and I was wondering how much radiation we can all take between the mammos, ct scans and radiation.  Also would like to hear others experience with brachy radiation.  Thanks.

    Diagnosed 12/10, lumpectomy 1/14/11, radiation 2/2/11.  5mm invasive tubular, 0/2 nodes ER+ HER2-

  • jo1955
    jo1955 Member Posts: 8,543
    edited February 2011

    I had lumpectomy and my RO attempted brachy therapy.  Unfortunately, he could not get the balloon to find properly in the lump cavity. Tried two balloons and it was pretty painful changing them out.  Had the tubes in for over a week before we gave up.  Hate having them in.  Ended up doing regular rads.  Rest assured your medical team is monitoring the amount of radiation you are exposed to from all the different tests - they will not let you get overexposed.

    There is a thread for Mammosite treatment - that would be a good place for you to check out. 

  • raincitygirl
    raincitygirl Member Posts: 3,143
    edited February 2011

    nanced - I had lumpectomy with external beam rads....

  • Sherryc
    Sherryc Member Posts: 5,938
    edited February 2011

    nancep I also had lumpectomy with external beam rads.

  • Omaz
    Omaz Member Posts: 5,497
    edited February 2011
    nancep - lumpectomy, external beam here too
  • localgirl
    localgirl Member Posts: 39
    edited February 2011

    me 4 - lumpectomy with external beam

    One more to go, tomorrow is my last day!

    20 degrees in Houston just seems wrong...

  • Omaz
    Omaz Member Posts: 5,497
    edited February 2011
    Yay localgirl!!

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